wished I had this video a few weeks ago, extremely informative ! thanks a lot for clear and simple explanations. As suggested already in previous comments we'll now be waiting for part 2 with vlans.
This is the topic I've been waiting for. I've been struggling with this setup for a while now. Hopefully I can take some points and apply them over the next days.
And I've successfully setup my stuff! Things I learned along the way. No connection to capsman is displayed for some reason on the cap wifi - I forgot to set the country in the profile and setting it fixed that! Set the correct bridge on the caps! Use the provision button! I did not know about provisioning! For VLAN management I set the provisioning to static - and on the cap there is in [Wireless -> CAP -> Slave Static] so I can name the interfaces and assign the correct VLANs on the bridge. As explained in the roaming video I've enabled FT and FT (DS) in the security profile. I've tested a couple of android phones and they are roaming. Roaming is also displayed in the logs.
Excellent. Please assign TOMS to more WiFi topics. Extending the topic to configuration with multiple VLANS and corresponding SSID's, including reference to his fast roaming video would be the logical next step.
Please explain the black magic of datapaths. What are they? How to configure them? Etc. made huge mistake by going with 3 ax devices for my country house- cannot configure them to use a VLAN through WiFi to save my life.
Why there is no option to set datapath as local-forwarding like in old versions, for adding the wifi interfaces as a dynamic bridge port via CAPsMAN datapath? In CAPsMAN datapath it shows the manager's bridges which absolutely useless in this scope..
can someone, please, guide me through steps mentioned in 8:18-8:30? I get my cAP running, but I cant seem to manage to get an IOT network to a different bridge. I had everythinng set-up until now with the old capsman, now an ax lite joined the network.
@@stephanszarafinski9001 I didn't find the performance hit worth it. The router or caps-man ager CPU would really get taxed. The slow radios got slower... And it made it that much harder to replace Mikrotik radios later. If you used local forwarding... It was simple.
Thank you so much for this video and wifiwave2 update. I've updated hap ac2 and hap ac3 routers, and results are astonishing. I will really appreciate if you provide a guide for the proper setup of several Audience devices with wifi-qcom-ac package on board.
Great video, Toms... explained a lot to me and where the missing packages went. lol HOWEVER, I am battling to see where SSID is set for CAPsMAN . My local (on the hap-AX3) wifi interfaces show "managed by CAPsMAN" which is running on the same hap-AX3... but I do not see a SSID to connect to.
Additionally - beneath "managed by CAPSMAN", there is no channel/freq info - as I am used to seeing on my previous config. Makes me think I am missing something on the configurations. I previously set this under "CAP Interface" on the CAPsMAN menu (gui).
Thanks Toms - very helpful video. Here is another question: i saw you putting in 3 frequencies for the wifi config - my questions: a) what is a correct frequency strategy when using multiple accesspoints in 1 house? b) why did you put in 3 frequencies in 1 config? If you have 3 ap's in the house - how do you avoid the access points using the same frequency. In my case i created 3 different configs - each having it's own frequency but this feels somehow wrong. Any advise that you give here?
@@ChrisNicholson Yes - but the question now is: which one is being selected by the AP? Is this random or is there some kind of logic behind? And if you have more than 1 CAP - is there any (automatic?) logic in offering the various channels. Reason for asking is that ended up with the same channel being selected in multiple AP's - resulting in interference - resulting in bad connections. Would love to see a guide on how to do this (note that this should be common work practices when deploying this in offices..)
@@prmfeddema it used to pick at boot time. No rescan frequency at all. As I stated... After the serious financial losses from Caps-Man 1... I am not gonna be putting anything on the bench from Mikrotik wireless for a while.
Great video! Thanks for making it possible to run both versions of capsman on the same router! Sidenote, I think some people would like to know that you can add a vlanid to the datapath of the central configuration. That is added to traffic on the bridge that is set on the local datapath.
Hello I updated my hap ac3 and cap c to 7.13 And added the wifi qcom ac package After i set up capsman It turns out that the capsman wireless ports work only on local manager even if it connected to capsman And the other cap has no status information in wifi interface MB but its there and running but no tx rx info How do i solvd this
I have to admit I thinks this makes things more confusing I have CCr2004 pcie card running router os 7.8 but I still only get the old menu. Is that because it does not have wifi interfaces itself? I would still like to use it for central management
hey I have ax3 and ax2 and trying to connect them with caps man but I am failing to assign the vlan ids for main and IoT 😢 lans, so the question is how it should be done as datapath is not working for me
I have a second comment.. the decision of splitting the packages is to mainly allow further development of future products. Could you give me hints of those future products? I promise I won’t tell anyone 🤫😁
Anybody who can help with Access list? I m struggling on new Capsman on WIFI(2) version... old capsman was sharpt new does not works how i think they have...
Yes I had the same issue. The solution was to go to the Radios tab and manually provisioning it there, it won't be done automatically because of some limitations.
@@aphroti Firewall rules can be the issue locally. But you can tell a cap WHERE TO FIND the manager. So if you are not on the same layer2... That can get you connected.
This is a very brief, messy explanation, you should focus much more on settings, e.g. using internal radio managed by capspman, what is a known issue. Also provisioning older cAP, eg. wAP or cAP is not possible at the moment based on the description, neither documentation exist.
I have a RB4011iGS+RM with RouterOS v7.12 (latest stable version currently available) and there is no WiFi button at Webfig. Why are you not consistent? :/
The RB4011iGS+RM is the rackmount version without any wireless (only 10x Gigabit Ethernet interfaces), so would make sense that it has no WiFi button. Or did you perhaps mean to say that you have the RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN model (which does have built-in WiFi as well)?
@@jurgen824 It's true of the RB4011iGS+RM that there are no WiFi interfaces, which means that when I click on the WiFi button (which Mikrotik claims will appear from v7.13), I will have an empty list. But it's not the WiFi local interfaces that are the issue, it's the virtual interfaces. I don't need to have WiFi interfaces locally to run the CAPsMAN server. See ruclips.net/video/37aff6d14Xk/видео.htmlsi=znPOwHlbgOLmQ2hx&t=491 Only two are of all are local WiFi interfaces. BR.
The decision of reshuffling the menus for 7.13. went a wrong way imo 😕 1) I don't like the Wifi menu item name. It should stay with more generous / nicer Wireless one and Wifi should be used for legacy stuff imo 2) Moving CAPsman into one of millions Wifi's tabs, plus having a CAP button on one of the other tab suggests, that CAPsman should have stayed in the root menu and never be integrated into a Wifi UI, which is already crowded with lot's of tabs / options. So - for me, the UI/UX decisions are kind of a step backwards ...
The reason the CAPsman stuff was moved into the Wifi menu is because most of the settings apply to interfaces and CAPsman so now things aren't needlessly duplicated. Same config can be used locally or for CAPsman etc.
It's worth mentioning that if you want to manage local wifi (like on ax2) it won't connect to capsman automatically. You need to provision it manually. You can do it by going to the "Radios" tab and selecting the interface and then pressing "Provision". Otherwise it just says that it can't connect to capsman. Sadly not the most intuitive video.
My god, what a piece of crap. Now I need to use 2 capsman with difference command syntax if i have some wifi5 devices. Completely useless. It's better to do a bash script to configure the access points.
I moved to another wifi manufacture years ago. Learned my lesson the costly way with Mikrotik old radios. Complaints and trouble tickets stopped dead when we went back to the other wifi vendor.
@@MarianCampeanuhad to pay the money and go back to Ruckus. We are getting closer with Cambium. But cost difference is quickly forgotten when you can "set and forget" systems. Compared to constant tickets. Attempted driver updates. Bug reports. Ohh... And clients getting so sick of it they bought other wifi gear and either fired us or asked us to put it in and toss the caps.
Extremely overcomplicated and confusing for such simple steps. Of course, good to have now two CAPSMANs in one router, but come on, even chepo China-vendors offer a more convenient way. Its so extremely time-consuming to do the simplest steps with mikrotik. For every step you have to read endless documentation and in the end you are totally confused.
Well it's for extremally professional use cases but yes Mikrotik really needs also more user friendly solutions for regular people - this will open huge market for them :) I've seen on forum that they are working on something
What's complicated though? It's literally as easy as configuring the main AP as if it was standalone and then activating same config for managed APs. And also to add, you'd be surprised (I was 😂) that Mikrotik has a working 802.11rkv.
That is a pure crap. Mikrotik still haven’t figured it out how to create a proper centralized wifi management system. At least put some kind of graphical statistics and more tools to troubleshoot the Caps…
Mikrotik has reduced CAP and AC2 memory so that customers buy AX and CAP AX expensively. This is not good. Normally all chips are 128 MB. But AC2 and CAP have software reduced to only 16 MB. That's not enough for the large WIFI package. We need roaming function. This is only in WIFIWAVE2 + Capsman
Not the ram it is flash hdd where is 15MB. But i have seen the new 13 Beta. Mikrotik hat this fixed in the Future. And Cap AC is not old. This is the best Cap compared with the size from the Cap AX@@ChrisNicholson
Dynamicaly created Slave interfaces are not added to bridge on CAPs automaticaly. So every reboot causes that i must add this interface to bridge manualy. Any solution for that?
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wished I had this video a few weeks ago, extremely informative ! thanks a lot for clear and simple explanations. As suggested already in previous comments we'll now be waiting for part 2 with vlans.
This is the topic I've been waiting for. I've been struggling with this setup for a while now. Hopefully I can take some points and apply them over the next days.
And I've successfully setup my stuff! Things I learned along the way.
No connection to capsman is displayed for some reason on the cap wifi - I forgot to set the country in the profile and setting it fixed that!
Set the correct bridge on the caps!
Use the provision button! I did not know about provisioning!
For VLAN management I set the provisioning to static - and on the cap there is in [Wireless -> CAP -> Slave Static] so I can name the interfaces and assign the correct VLANs on the bridge.
As explained in the roaming video I've enabled FT and FT (DS) in the security profile. I've tested a couple of android phones and they are roaming. Roaming is also displayed in the logs.
The video and upgrade I have been waiting for, for so long 😁 thank you!
I can see great work being done on the wireless packages! Keep it up 👍
Thank you Mikrotik. Please add chapters to this video. ❤
Done
Excellent. Please assign TOMS to more WiFi topics. Extending the topic to configuration with multiple VLANS and corresponding SSID's, including reference to his fast roaming video would be the logical next step.
All this hype and the last minutes hit you hard...
Please explain the black magic of datapaths. What are they? How to configure them? Etc. made huge mistake by going with 3 ax devices for my country house- cannot configure them to use a VLAN through WiFi to save my life.
And how do you provision Virtual APs on 30+ physical units with Capsman? Nohow. Manually need go form one to another and create them.
Thank you. I can finally buy a wifi6 CAP
Quality of production and how clear is voice - perfect!
Thank you! I've commented few times months ago and you made it literally perfect now :)
Most complicated WiFi network configuration besides all vendors, great job Mikrotik)
Thank you! You make my dreams come true!
Why there is no option to set datapath as local-forwarding like in old versions, for adding the wifi interfaces as a dynamic bridge port via CAPsMAN datapath? In CAPsMAN datapath it shows the manager's bridges which absolutely useless in this scope..
All you find workaround?
can someone, please, guide me through steps mentioned in 8:18-8:30? I get my cAP running, but I cant seem to manage to get an IOT network to a different bridge. I had everythinng set-up until now with the old capsman, now an ax lite joined the network.
really cool video. it helped a lot to understand. thnx
Any milestones to combine old AC APs into new capsman? I see that there is good feature FT and roaming works great on AX.
Hi, new capsman with driver wifi-qcom-ac datapath doesn't work. Can you fix it asap?
Please add back central forwarding to new capsman.
Yes we really need that for better security on the network!
@@stephanszarafinski9001 I didn't find the performance hit worth it. The router or caps-man ager CPU would really get taxed. The slow radios got slower...
And it made it that much harder to replace Mikrotik radios later. If you used local forwarding... It was simple.
@@stephanszarafinski9001 how does it improve security? I don't get this one...
Hi MikroTik,
How can I know (or check) which MikroTik AP or hAP support FT (Roaming) 802.11r?
Thank you in advanced for your answer!
Hi, CAPSMAN not add interfaces to the bridge?
All wifi networks keep geting swich port brige only.
How to make 2 caps men wlans and 2 briges?
Thank you so much for this video and wifiwave2 update. I've updated hap ac2 and hap ac3 routers, and results are astonishing. I will really appreciate if you provide a guide for the proper setup of several Audience devices with wifi-qcom-ac package on board.
Hi there is possibility atatch bridge from capsman manager device not from local Bridge on local CAP interface ?
Great video, Toms... explained a lot to me and where the missing packages went. lol
HOWEVER, I am battling to see where SSID is set for CAPsMAN . My local (on the hap-AX3) wifi interfaces show "managed by CAPsMAN" which is running on the same hap-AX3... but I do not see a SSID to connect to.
Additionally - beneath "managed by CAPSMAN", there is no channel/freq info - as I am used to seeing on my previous config. Makes me think I am missing something on the configurations. I previously set this under "CAP Interface" on the CAPsMAN menu (gui).
Thanks Toms - very helpful video. Here is another question: i saw you putting in 3 frequencies for the wifi config - my questions: a) what is a correct frequency strategy when using multiple accesspoints in 1 house? b) why did you put in 3 frequencies in 1 config? If you have 3 ap's in the house - how do you avoid the access points using the same frequency. In my case i created 3 different configs - each having it's own frequency but this feels somehow wrong. Any advise that you give here?
It looked like he gave caps-man the ability to pick between channels 1,6,11 in 2.4
@@ChrisNicholson Yes - but the question now is: which one is being selected by the AP? Is this random or is there some kind of logic behind? And if you have more than 1 CAP - is there any (automatic?) logic in offering the various channels. Reason for asking is that ended up with the same channel being selected in multiple AP's - resulting in interference - resulting in bad connections. Would love to see a guide on how to do this (note that this should be common work practices when deploying this in offices..)
@@prmfeddema it used to pick at boot time. No rescan frequency at all.
As I stated... After the serious financial losses from Caps-Man 1... I am not gonna be putting anything on the bench from Mikrotik wireless for a while.
I have an issue where all my cap interfaces are visible and broadcasting however it seems that the bridge and Dhcp pool do not work.
same., Do you find workaround?
From the AX router where the Capsman is enabled, to I need to also enabled CAP on that router?
Great video! Thanks for making it possible to run both versions of capsman on the same router! Sidenote, I think some people would like to know that you can add a vlanid to the datapath of the central configuration. That is added to traffic on the bridge that is set on the local datapath.
Hello
I updated my hap ac3 and cap c to 7.13
And added the wifi qcom ac package
After i set up capsman
It turns out that the capsman wireless ports work only on local manager even if it connected to capsman
And the other cap has no status information in wifi interface MB but its there and running but no tx rx info
How do i solvd this
I have to admit I thinks this makes things more confusing I have CCr2004 pcie card running router os 7.8 but I still only get the old menu. Is that because it does not have wifi interfaces itself? I would still like to use it for central management
hey I have ax3 and ax2 and trying to connect them with caps man but I am failing to assign the vlan ids for main and IoT 😢 lans, so the question is how it should be done as datapath is not working for me
All you find workaround?
cool, would be great to get rid of slave,master naming. :D
if capsman goes down, still the APs go down too? no forwarding without the boss?
I have a second comment.. the decision of splitting the packages is to mainly allow further development of future products.
Could you give me hints of those future products? I promise I won’t tell anyone 🤫😁
Finally 🙏 after being through hell and back
when will be available capsman for mesh devices? i would love to add devices without cable
Very good video, thanks
Anybody who can help with Access list? I m struggling on new Capsman on WIFI(2) version... old capsman was sharpt new does not works how i think they have...
Do WiFiWave2 package for older devices (CAP AC for example) witch have driver support ... pls .. Thx ..
no they don't support devices with 16MB flash
even the cap ac XL witch was releases after the creation of their wave2 package is not compatible.
@@xgamer i know ..but .. some new package ?? or ...
@@pavelbartek8784 Oh man .. looks good .. - Diki moc za info
two winbox places for capsman 😂
No 4x4 radios. No 6E or 7. No Outdoor Radios. No radios with more than a 1Gig LAN port...
Gonna wait this one out.
Excelente video, sería muy conveniente poder tenerlo en español. (sé que es posible traducir los subtítulos, pero créeme no es lo mismo)
be honest, the new CAPsMAN, the lease we use the better will be!!!
I am sorry but it when i do what they did in the video exactly i get no connection to CapsMan message, i did not have problem with the old wifi APs.
Yes I had the same issue. The solution was to go to the Radios tab and manually provisioning it there, it won't be done automatically because of some limitations.
Puedo bajar de la versión 7.8 a la versión 6 de un cAP xl
i tried enverything and it sayw no connection to capsman
is it necessary to connect CAPs directly to CAPsMAN device or as long as in the same network is ok
Even across the interwebz... As long as the 2 can talk to each other via either broadcast, forwarding, VPN, etc.
@@ChrisNicholson That's what i thought🤔, but it's just not working for me right now, will do more tests, thanks
@@aphroti Firewall rules can be the issue locally. But you can tell a cap WHERE TO FIND the manager. So if you are not on the same layer2... That can get you connected.
This is a very brief, messy explanation, you should focus much more on settings, e.g. using internal radio managed by capspman, what is a known issue. Also provisioning older cAP, eg. wAP or cAP is not possible at the moment based on the description, neither documentation exist.
How to control more access point cap ax
Well Done
Please add NV2 to capsman. I run many deployments of moving vehicles using NV2 clients.
Жодного слова про те, як на самій CAP-ax, без іншого роутера включити caps контролер. а все тому, що він не включається, ніяк ((
I have a RB4011iGS+RM with RouterOS v7.12 (latest stable version currently available) and there is no WiFi button at Webfig. Why are you not consistent? :/
Starting v7.13 we are renaming Wifiwave2 to just WiFi
The RB4011iGS+RM is the rackmount version without any wireless (only 10x Gigabit Ethernet interfaces), so would make sense that it has no WiFi button. Or did you perhaps mean to say that you have the RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD-IN model (which does have built-in WiFi as well)?
@@jurgen824 It's true of the RB4011iGS+RM that there are no WiFi interfaces, which means that when I click on the WiFi button (which Mikrotik claims will appear from v7.13), I will have an empty list. But it's not the WiFi local interfaces that are the issue, it's the virtual interfaces. I don't need to have WiFi interfaces locally to run the CAPsMAN server.
See ruclips.net/video/37aff6d14Xk/видео.htmlsi=znPOwHlbgOLmQ2hx&t=491 Only two are of all are local WiFi interfaces. BR.
@@GreDi_PL Ah ok, misunderstood you initially, thanks for the clarification! :)
The decision of reshuffling the menus for 7.13. went a wrong way imo 😕 1) I don't like the Wifi menu item name. It should stay with more generous / nicer Wireless one and Wifi should be used for legacy stuff imo 2) Moving CAPsman into one of millions Wifi's tabs, plus having a CAP button on one of the other tab suggests, that CAPsman should have stayed in the root menu and never be integrated into a Wifi UI, which is already crowded with lot's of tabs / options. So - for me, the UI/UX decisions are kind of a step backwards ...
There are many wireless technologies now, LoRA, LTE, 60GHz, Bluetooth. WIFI is more accurate
The reason the CAPsman stuff was moved into the Wifi menu is because most of the settings apply to interfaces and CAPsman so now things aren't needlessly duplicated. Same config can be used locally or for CAPsman etc.
It's worth mentioning that if you want to manage local wifi (like on ax2) it won't connect to capsman automatically. You need to provision it manually. You can do it by going to the "Radios" tab and selecting the interface and then pressing "Provision". Otherwise it just says that it can't connect to capsman. Sadly not the most intuitive video.
I have that same laptop
My god, what a piece of crap.
Now I need to use 2 capsman with difference command syntax if i have some wifi5 devices.
Completely useless.
It's better to do a bash script to configure the access points.
i dont think you do?
It's not as bad as wifiwave2 was on it's own.
Some of the AC devices support this new CAPsMAN.
I moved to another wifi manufacture years ago. Learned my lesson the costly way with Mikrotik old radios.
Complaints and trouble tickets stopped dead when we went back to the other wifi vendor.
@@ChrisNicholson Who? "another wifi manufacture"!
@@MarianCampeanuhad to pay the money and go back to Ruckus. We are getting closer with Cambium.
But cost difference is quickly forgotten when you can "set and forget" systems. Compared to constant tickets. Attempted driver updates. Bug reports. Ohh... And clients getting so sick of it they bought other wifi gear and either fired us or asked us to put it in and toss the caps.
Web interface WiFI for UI
Extremely overcomplicated and confusing for such simple steps. Of course, good to have now two CAPSMANs in one router, but come on, even chepo China-vendors offer a more convenient way. Its so extremely time-consuming to do the simplest steps with mikrotik. For every step you have to read endless documentation and in the end you are totally confused.
Well it's for extremally professional use cases but yes Mikrotik really needs also more user friendly solutions for regular people - this will open huge market for them :) I've seen on forum that they are working on something
I think it's done on purpose
To be fair, Mikrotik's main benefit is power and flexibility, not being dumbed down.
What's complicated though? It's literally as easy as configuring the main AP as if it was standalone and then activating same config for managed APs.
And also to add, you'd be surprised (I was 😂) that Mikrotik has a working 802.11rkv.
That is a pure crap. Mikrotik still haven’t figured it out how to create a proper centralized wifi management system. At least put some kind of graphical statistics and more tools to troubleshoot the Caps…
Close... The Old CAPS-MAN WAS AWESOME... Problem was it could only control lousy radios with drivers that could/have NEVER been fixed.
Mikrotik has reduced CAP and AC2 memory so that customers buy AX and CAP AX expensively. This is not good. Normally all chips are 128 MB. But AC2 and CAP have software reduced to only 16 MB. That's not enough for the large WIFI package. We need roaming function. This is only in WIFIWAVE2 + Capsman
Sorry what do you mean? We can't reduce memory for already manufactured devices. It is the same as it always was.
I think he means you used too little ram in the old models, to be able to do Wave2.
Not the ram it is flash hdd where is 15MB. But i have seen the new 13 Beta. Mikrotik hat this fixed in the Future. And Cap AC is not old. This is the best Cap compared with the size from the Cap AX@@ChrisNicholson
They've actually released wifiwave2 for several older devices now.
Not a straight forward and somehow is complicated
Dynamicaly created Slave interfaces are not added to bridge on CAPs automaticaly. So every reboot causes that i must add this interface to bridge manualy. Any solution for that?
All you find workaround?
@@udenspasaule yes, static slaves option