Beginner FPV Freestyle Kwad - From the ground up!
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2024
- Would you like to build a FPV freestyle kwad from the ground up?
Chad (Rotor Riot CEO) plays the part of a complete noob with access to the Pro Pilots - Joshua (FPV KnowItAll) and Alex (Captain Vanover) walk him through the process of choosing, buying and building a Freestyle FPV quadcopter.
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Started so well and then interruption after interruption, let Joshua explain!!!! Great concept for the video
Ikr!
Because it’s a commercial once you watch long enough you will catch on trust me.
Joshua Bardwell: “The motors are the thing you replace the most on a quad”
Props: “Am I a joke to you?”
Breakage order
1. Props
2. Arms
3. Antennae
4. Motors
5. Some electronic bits. (The ESC on my first hawk 5 is still kicking)
My first radio and goggles are both working and in use.
I've replaced more FC's (6) than anything, then props (2 pair), then escs (2). I have yet to replace a motor!
What the @#$% am I doing wrong!?
(2 FC's were on pre built quads)
You guys ever considered creating a build tool on your website? Something similar to what Newegg and others provide for computers? Would help Newbs like myself create a beginner level that is easily upgradeable as we progress...
That would change the game for sure. I don't have an FPV quad but I plan to get one eventually. I am instead trying to learn everything I can to do it right. (plus the whole budget problem)
true wouldn't be that difficult, like pcpartpicker.com
So true, if a website had this feature (and stock) I would be much more inclined to use rather than a competitor.
This needs to happen.
...adding to this. A compatibility checker. Ensure you have the right s-ratings selected, proper kv to pitch ratios, ecs/vtx/rx to fc ease of connection, etc!
You could start the builder off with a flying style and target budget tracker. It would only display the parts that fit these constraints. It would also do alot of what this video did. You get to find the gaps in inventory/options to meet those builds.
Cheers!
Chad just let Joshua talk FFS....
SO annoying
Chad s annoying but the money guys usually are hAhHH
@@CripSkillz hahahah you are right
Fucking THIS! 🤦🏻♂️
Lol no shit!
All that I know is that without Rotor Riot, Joshua Bardwell and the rest of the Quad community making instructional videos, I would not have much chance of success at any of this realy fun Hobby, Now collecting bits for my first build.
Thanks to all of You, and please Keep up the Great Work & Happy Flying
nearly 3 years ago , after seeing our lord and saviour charpu do his thing i got a rtf zmr 250 and i never looked back, it burnt to the ground first flight but after that i learnt to build from scratch and i love every bit of it , i still love watching stuff like this i always learn something i didn't know before hand
This is a dude just saying what he's already researched and has his mind set on... xD
The best build video I've ever seen. I like seeing someone else tackling unforseen complications rather than a very experienced builder with a perfectly executed build. Great job. These are things that I struggled with and now I have answers with explanations.
that is RR i know, keep forward guys, this is the right way to build this community.
I’ve been binge watching quadcopter videos for the last few days, I’m 7 minutes into this video and it is what I’ve been looking for. Thanks for videoing this process.
Don't get me wrong when I say this I did not follow Vanover when it came to racing and had no clue who he was until Rotor Riot has shown him on this channel, I saw him in Las Vegas and thought he was a fan like must of us, turns out he's accomplished something really cool and has that same passion we all have.
This is by far one of the best videos you guys have ever done. Definitely more of this stuff! I've built for a while and wish I would have had this kind of info starting out.
Good video. Thanks for reminding the beginner.
How quickly we forget when we first began.
I've got an idea! Let's get the best drone pilot and top drone expert together in a room and talk over them the whole time. It's like wiping your ass with silk, I love it.
Felt that as well, it was a bit cringe.
JB is the salesman we all wish we encountered at the store. So helpful!
Totally agree with the last opinion of having a checklist for first time builders. Since there is a significant amount of parts needed, newbies like myself could definitely benefit from that.
Chad was constantly talking over the other guy. It was quite annoying and rude considering the guy was trying to help him.
I agree. Chad talks too much
Some people just love to hear themselves talk. I have plenty of those types of people I work with.
I like Chad's way of thinking, I want something cost effective but flys good..
Glad to see going back to cover stuff for new people getting interested in FPV. Because this is very intimidating.
The only thing I find intimidating is the prices for some of the other gear like the fpv goggles and the transmitter 🤦🏻♂️their way to expensive.
didnt know what to expect. we all know things right? whats the point in seeing another beginner video? but I was blown away from the complete honesty and relaxing way of discussing everything! thank you clap and the whole team for this video!
YES! Nailed it... This is the content RotoRiot should be focused on. Good stuff..
That last usb cable part tip SAVED ME!! I finally got my quad up in the air. THX
I just hit my first year of Fpv and it’s been nothing but fun!
Me too bro!! One year in and going strong!!
Interesting to see Kapper building a quad, doing this will make him understand everything better
I have not done a updated build in a long time.That is exactly how it goes you pick your frame and all your parts for your build.
You try to order from your parts list ,and wola the parts you want are out of stock or on back order.So you try 2nd choice or 3rd choice and kinda get the build you wanted or wait for ever for parts to stock.I am leaning very heavy towards ready to fly quads. Love to build but hate placing 10 different orders an places. Liked the video thumbs up guys.
A completion kit is a great idea. Standoffs, screws, 2x tape, zip ties, etc. Hate to be moving along and have to stop and wait cuz of something so minor. Great video!
this video is so interesting. i love how joshua bardwell is just like a walking encyclopedia. he knows his shit pretty damn well!!!!
This has been by far one of the best videos Rotor Riot has put out in quite a while. Keep them coming.
This was a great video. Some very cool people. Left a like Rotor Riot awesome channel and tons of info. Im 61 years old and new to the fpv world. Just love the hobby thanks guys be safe out there bless
So far this was is the best video I’ve seen yet for me as a beginner! Thank thank you roto riot
Fantastic video not just for the first time builder but also for the experienced builder because after your 10th build you get lazy and for get to make sure you plan out your build and get all the little parts your going to need. This is one of the best roto riot vids great job
clear explanation why parts are chosen in a quiet home garden and kitchen setting!
Was a really great video, I have bought three CL1's because of this video. I have a couple other 5' drones but they're all different, I like the concept Chad had of going piece by piece and love all my CL1's!!
I do remember what I was struggling most with my first build: Insecurity. I watched about a hundred videos before I even starting to order parts and watched some more during the build. In the end my selection turned out to be really solid (except for a poor frame choice). I spent two days I won't get back on trying to get FrSky telemetry working on a Matek F405 because I did not want to use softserial. Wiring, soldering and configuring BLHeli and Betaflight was no problem for me. Space was. I thought I finally nailed it, then I tried an extremely tight racing frame and just fitting everything cost me a lot of time. Prop choices can still be very frustrating because no science can help you with that, except maybe ruling out too high or low pitched ones.
This is a very helpful video because it answers many questions I’ve had being new to this hobby. Thanks guys!
watching Rotor Riot videos while using the LiftOff simulator is the quickest way for beginners to learn lmao
Chad these kind of videos are the ones I appreciate the most. It is honest informative and unique. Exactly the one I was trying to describe to you earlier. Well done! I really enjoyed it! For Me Alex was a youngster before as a figure - fast as hell and a very distant league on its own - but I really enjoyed his input too as an expert in speed and dead centered characteristics. I can't wait to see your progress (I might be able to keep up). Very good idea to get yourself involved (finally)
I'll be happy to be a target for you to pass up as long as you're having fun! ;)
Thanks for the feedback!
Must say you guys at rotor riot are truly going above and beyond to help us noobs. The hardest part was the programming for me. But part of my problem was the usb cable. Every time I plug it in it would not recognize anything. My motors spun in the wrong direction and in the incorrect order. Didn’t understand the uarts So many problems. Took me at least a day to figure it out on my own then I came across Joshua’s RUclips channel and I basically wanted to smash my head off the computer table cuz his videos would have saved me so much time and frustration
Loved the basement episodes of FT. Great time in the infancy of FPV.
two minutes in and I can tell this is going to be a great video!
Bardwell is just a fountain of knowledge. Thank you guys
This is crazy... Kap was a pioneer in the fpv hobby and I use to watch him build tricopters and rip around the field way before the drone craze started! Hard to believe he's been distant from it!
Truly, one of the most important and useful RR episodes to date. Well done JB, CK, and Capt. V. Keep going in this direction.
The USB cable is huge. I went through six before it worked. It's always the cable
Took me two days and just happened to go to another room and thus tried another one and ut worked . .😵
I stumbled across the same thing after trying a few Android cables. But my IT troubleshooting kicked in and I started with the simplest thing. I guess Charging not always equal Data.
You should use some masking tape or whatever and mark the ones that are data-capable, and the ones that are power only, definitely save you some trouble ;)
@@amen_ra6926 Sometimes it's also the internal resistance, for some reason some FC don't like certain cables. Used to happen to me back in the days of the ArduPilot
This video has really given me a serious boost in ambition. I'm so stoked to be getting in fpv. Perfect time is now. Los last three years, I'm so ready to amp it up
I just completed my first build a few days ago. The biggest struggle was Rx soldering to the FC. I’m a Spektrum guy so thanks to Drew for his video about the 4649T. Fortunately I’ve learned quite a bit from crashing and rebuilding my PNP. I have to agree, there is a bit of a disconnect between the pros and the newbs. Thank you for recognizing this and attempting to close the gap! RR and RDQ will see more of my money!
This was a great video for beginners and in my opinion what RR should be focusing on more its awesome. i would like to see this maybe happen once a year or once every 6 months even just to cover things that have changed since the last one.
This a very interesting topic. For a complete rookie in the hobby (a bit like me) it would help if the RR website could have some sort of wizard so that someone can easily have all parts for a full quad. On this wizard, it would only appear a few options for each component that are known to work OK together - RR top picks - (so we are not overwhelmed with options). One idea would be to have a pre-made selected builds, like "Budget" or "Advanced", so we can see the total price upfront while having the options to tune the selection for each component. One important option on the wizard would be to have the quad delivered assembled and pre-tuned (if RR have the means to offer this service). Also, don't forget to add a "must have accessories" section on the wizard, because some people don't have anything - solder iron, batteries, charger, voltage checker, tools, goggles, backpack, etc
As a final touch, the wizard could have "quick links" to replicate a build from the pilots we all know and love (Le Drib, Ummagawd, etc)
The goal with this wizard would be to streamline all the checkout process for new people in the hobby and make it quick and fun to have our dream quad. In sum, the wizard would be a sort of "virtual Bardwell" helping out :-)
Then you can even go even further, and after completing a purchase a new customer can be entered on an automated drip newsletter system and receive periodical links to tricks and tips videos by email which in turn can be catered depending on the customer profile (eg. newbies can start by receiving basic tutorials - like connecting to PC - while a more advanced shopper can skip the tutorials). Also, customers can then start to receive periodical emails depending on the choices they made on the wizard, such as "Need more CNHL batteries? Visit our store", "Time to upgrade to Fatshark HDO?", "Make it official. Check our swag selection and use RRPROUD coupon to get 10$ off" or just an email with links to the most popular RR RUclips videos... the options are endless here.
Filipe D Hi filipe! If you are a rookie, i would reccomend not to start with a 5" quad. Get a whoop, such as the Mobula 7 and the progress to bigger quads. Make sure you practice on a simulator, eg. Velocidrone before flying! Hope this helped!
Avefelix FPV That’s is great advice. I’m still a noob and my biggest quad is a 3”. Although 5” is the “standard” which this video refers to
"Mid-throttle oscillations. Everybody struggles with that."
"Yeah."
"Well, Drew never seems to have them."
"Drew's... not... he's not normal."
Just thinking about putting my feet in the water so watching shows that motivate me. Good Job Guys
Great video for relatively newbie like me! I was looking into buying all the components yesterday and the check list is the first thing I wrote down even before watching this video. There were some great tips and knowledge from JB ( I definitely learnt something today😂)
You should also cover stuff like charger, soldering iron and related accessories, other tools etc
Yes to this! In my experience, the easiest part was piecing together the drone. It's all the other stuff that is the time sink-firmware, tuning, charging.
The most informative vidd come from everyone trying to teach Chad. I love these vids... They're so helpful... Thank you guys... I love U guys.... Build , fly , crash , repeat....
At 42:42, always test your FC first. Use the USB when you pull it out of the box and connect to BF before you ever start the build to make sure its working. I never saw you plug it in to a PC, looked like you and JB open all the parts just go to soldering. And you guys are the PROS!!! :) Excellent video Chad. I like your thought train on this. Its good to have good info providers at your disposal.
I'm totally new here. I've been educating myself on the components. But two things. You skim over "programming" like we're all supposed to know. (I don't) AND...actually turning it on for the first time....what's the checklist there. A tutorial on Radios...which you may have but I have not seen yet. Learned a lot tho...thanks guys.
I'm ~15 builds into the hobby, and if the quad takes 4 hours to build, 3.5 of those hours are stacking/re-stacking the stack. Welcome to FPV Chad! :)
To all, your USB cable must have USB data symbol for it to support data. USB symbol is the dots, triangle, square connected by lines, kinda looks like a lightning bolt. More like a circuit board bus. Hence usB.... ;) If your USB cable doesn't have this symbol it may still support data. 100% of cables that have the symbol will support data.
These are the episodes we like.
As an Norwegian I felt the talking speed and words is understandable. Contend great!
That USB Cable Tip is HUGE! Tons of cheap charger cables don't have the data wires. If the computer doesn't recognize the FC at all but it powers on, try different cables.
Yal, this is a big one. I was frustrated for quite a while. USB A and USB B types are thigs look em up.
I wish there was a video like this when I started. Two thumbs up!!! I'll definetly point people to this video who are new to this hobby.
@45:24 VANOVER! (who's name is also his own battle cry!) nails it. Yes that is exacltly what you need for the noobs, step by step, with a checklist. no doubt.
Josh just makes sense, he explains well
I’m kinda new to this hobby and I love it. This video and the way that you are approaching it is exactly what I needed. Thank you Chad and Joshua. This is so informative. You are asking all the right newbie questions. I ask my buddy Cliff aka Mackfpv these questions all the time. Thanks guys.
Freestyle for LIFE!!❤
Rotor riot should definitely make a program that tells you compatibility. Kind of like pcpartpicker. You could call rc part picker.
Hahaha at 1:59 chad first goes straight to the desk at J.Bardwell&Co fpv quad copter consulting firm to get idea's for his build!!! Lol jb sitting across the desk asking questions like an fpvknowitall quad consultant!
LOL
Great episode. I am looking at building my 1st freestyle quad hopefully soon and I learnt a lot from this video. Thanks guys 😀👍
Did you
Chad...Great episode. Packed full of good info and advise...this was NOT a "Rotor - Ridiculous" episode. Mr Bardwell...this is the kind of episode that reminds me of classic RR.
Glad you liked it. Glad I could help make it :-)
Lots of good info here. For my first custom quad I just copied Steeles build and rates. Coming from an eachine wizard it was like night and day. That's when it all clicked for me, I still fly only KISS, ImpulseRC and TBS gear. I know its not the cheapest gear but its super easy to setup and it all just works.
TBS source one is an awesome budget frame option. Good to see Kapper back in vids.
So true. It’s all the little things like the cable. Or stack mount. Find yourself trying to google this stuff. Awesome vid
That's was such a valuable discussion for noobs, thanks for catering to us
Dude dont be fooled by these parts choices... you can build a beginner quad that will fly EXACTLY the same for about half the price right now and you wont hate yourself for breaking things... this is 45 minutes of native advertising.
@@flighttherapybullisticfpv133 Sometimes, even beginners want a certain level of quality, not only of the product, but also support after-purchase, that`s worth something, at least to me, things like free replacements are pure gold for a noob in any field, then there are those products that will just continue to be available, which is also valuable.
And they go through things like durability, ease of use and assembly as well as repairs.
Maybe I could get something way cheaper, but would I still get the benefits..?
Sidenote: you could look for parts with similar specs and probably save some money, but getting everything from one place is why things like Walmart and eBay exist..
And some of the point of the video, as mentioned in the beginning, is to get everything (or as much as possible) from one store, which I also appreciate.
Can`t really blame Rotor-Riot for showing off their store either, it`s not exactly "subliminal marketing" lol.
Besides, there`s no hidden advertising, everything is up front and honest and the items being discussed are things these dudes have experience with, just what a noob wants.
If it hadn`t been for the fact that I live in scandinavia, I`d be likely to follow this to the letter.
I still might, but my problem is getting a complete package from any less than 3 different places, so odds are still higher that I`ll go with a Hawk 5, because with all the shipping etc, I`ll end up in the same range lol.
Sorry about the "essay", just My2C`s ;)
@@flighttherapybullisticfpv133 As Naufel said, it's about the discussion. A singular example: JB making things simple for people by saying that for a noob 5", just throw on a 2306/2207 2400kv and experiment with props. In the end, people are going to choose what they want to choose, whether based on price, or brand, or whatever.
So far you would have to be a pretty well off newbie to build though the RR site, hopefully they bring in more choices for those of us who don't have a ton of cash to put into the project
You guys need more beginner packages. I’ve been wanting to start flying for years and won’t even start a build.
EXCELLENT point on the USB cable.!! That one got me once.
me too i bought a hole other fc like two years ago then it didnt work and i was so pissed i just bought another stack but then i had all these fcs and spares you know lol
I really like what you did with the receiver, really tidy and not sitting in the vtx👌
Love this video!! I just ordered all my parts to build a CL1 yesterday, and I can't wait to get it put together. After watching your video I totally realized I forgot to order props (DOH!) This video is super helpful for a beginner like myself, and has really got me thinking about how I want to set it up, while I'm waiting for the parts to arrive. Keep up the great work, and I hope to see more build vids from you guys in the future!
This is the best vid in a while.. There are not enough vids about learning now a days. Great job
Bardwell: you can go to hell nobody should do a first build! Lmao love you guys
Josh is the man, soo much knowledge so much experience lol
I really needed this video👍 YES CHECKLIST
My biggest hang-ups have to do with where to place and mount stuff. Where to put the vtx and receiver. It's still a problem to get it done cleanly. 3D printed parts helps. Also, the XT60 placement was a huge challenge when I first started. It took a long time to finally figure out how to keep it out of the props.
Great to see Kapper actually in the show more! I liked it a lot.
I have a older JB beginners kit and its amazing and it came with everything I needed so the new upgrade will be off the chart 😎😎😎😊😎😎😎
First build was a drib MQC 2 yrs ago. Followed Drew’s build video EXACTLY. Never looked back.
USB cable got me too at first🤣🤣🤣I’ve been flying for 3-4 years and i struggled with the pc programming part the most! Back when I started we had to flash ESC manually with new firmware.. not like FL1 haha and flashing the kiss v1 was through DFUS demo!😂😂 great vid guys.
Its not as bigger issue these days, but in the past I struggled a bit with ESC calibrating and setup (min/max throttle etc). I understand that this video is more about the shopping process and selection of gear, however I think what is lacking is the software side of things. Having said that there is ample content on this already on the Tube. Entertaining none the less, thanks.
That USB data cable part may seem funny but it's so critical. When it happened to me I was so frustrated and cussing at my computer thinking it was drivers but nope, one of my discord friends showed me the way
My biggest piece of advice for a first build is don't try to do it in one sitting.
You will start of doing things perfectly and then after a couple of hours you will get tired and start cutting corners.
Get yourself a box to keep the unfinished quad in and when you get tired put the build up for the night and complete it the next day.
Its worth taking your time with the original build as i rarely recommend messing with a well flying quad even if something looks messy. A flight proven build is worth 20 fresh builds.
Very solid wisdom! Thanks for sharing! Having a dedicated project box is a very good thing to do!
Great video. Total noob here. Still trying to figure it all out. Figuring out what motors go with 3, 4, and 5 inch blades and why is a struggle. What ESC’s go good with what flight controllers isn’t strait forward and I know that depends on what battery (3,4 or 6s). On and on. Would be nice in the product description of any given part that it pair well with what ever else to help lead people down the path. But looking forward to getting into it all.
We are going to attempt something very similar to this. It's kind of a weird problem to solve since there is not yet a standard connector for fc's and esc's. Technically most fc's and esc's will work with each other, but often you'll have to rearrange the wires to make sure they go to the proper place between them, which often involves stabbing yourself with tweezers repeatedly and risking ruining the connectors. We have spoken about a build guide with parts that are proven to work well together, we'll make sure everyone knows about it once it's implemented. If integration of a site feature proves to be impossible, we'll DEFINITELY make sure to cover it more thoroughly in a build video at the very least. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
should show first flight posts from pro pilots as a reminder of where we all started :-)
Thanks guys. Signed a noob.
Chad this a really good route. I have built 2 quads with picking bits and pieces I could get from RUclips. You guys need to do more videos like this
I think the camera mount for the r-xsr on the rear stand off is a great idea. It would be even better if there was a mount specifically made for receiver and or the vtx to mount to the standoffs
Chad is the best!
LOL. Nice to see you back in front of the camera and actually flying Chad! :P
Wow, this is an amazing video. It does make people think twice about building it first quad by it self. I like the way you went about building a quad as a beginner. Also like the way you place each past on the chassis.
Loved the outtake. We all do those little hacks around the gotchas that we're semi-proud of.
Such a useful video! Its always the little silly things that mess you up!
Love your channel! Suggestion for video - glossary of common FPV terms. A video of maybe 20 most common acronyms in FPV drones? You might be thinking, “ there’s already a few of those type of videos out there”. Sure, but have you seen them? They move really slow…
Excellent video guys. I had the same issues as Chad with my first build. Choosing components was easy, figuring out how to mount the stack, orientation, battery lead and where/how to mount vtx and receiver did my head in. Keep up the good work guys.