Beginning of the Third Age & Fading of Kings - Timeline of Arda #13
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- The beginning of the Third Age saw the rise of the realms of Men, with the gradual fading of the line of Elendil. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts about this part of the timeline in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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The Third and Fourth Age are like when you grow up and all the magic of the childhood slowly wears away, with the painful mundanity taking it's place.
There is something really bittersweet about it.
Great video as always!
Peak nostalgia in Tolkiens work
That is very true it can happen early or late
Ikr it's really downtrodden to think about all the wonders and magic in the land and air like numenors being so wise , knowledge and wise and a yearning for adventures , after war with sauron , osgilath can be rebuilt to it's full potential when the 80,000 or more orcs that died in Pelanor fields left alot of dead bodies everywhere to fertilize the fields to abundant farmland and tons and tons of iron helmets, shield, swords and armor etc a whole lot of iron to mass produce iron nails, plows, tools etc to plow the fields for large supplies of food, and can make iron beams to build beautiful skyscraper size building with wood, stone and glass windows for and build a railroad around the city to get people where need to in the city and move goods around to and probably enough to build a railroad between minas tirith and osgilath to trade between the two and be more connected , with horses pulling wagon size railcars cuz it's lot easier to move on rails than roads , and osgilath will be a bustling city, skyscrapers, railroads, abundance of crops, shipping yard and fish market etc and erabor to can build a trade empire too the dwarves and men can build alot with the 150,000-200,000 dead orcs leaving all that iron around to rebuild dale with skyscrapers and railroad going to erabor, dale , iron hills and the lake the iron hills for iron goods and lake for fish and can get goods back and forth , And the dwarves could be more settlement in other mountains and men build a settlement outside of the mountain to support each other, and connect each other to other dwarves and men cities and erabor could be a trading empire with all that gold etc and the lands can be living in a peaceful industrial revolution thing going on
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Beginning of Third Age: Waning of the Elves
“Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it”
I think this was the most drastic change in its history; everything before seemed grand and epic and powerful. The world was truly left on its own, save a little indirect help from the west.
But this is what makes the ending of the age that much more of a victory
Doesn’t matter how much trouble or strife your story or journey begins with, all that matters is what u decide to do with it and how to finish it :)
The quote is ironically from Galadriel, who obviously must not be including herself, because she CERTAINLY is old enough to recall very much of what once "was." Unless I'm mistaken, she's older than any of the five wizards. In fact, by the time of "The Lord of the Rings," I think Galadriel was THE OLDEST LIVING CHARACTER in all of Middle Earth! Only Sauron, really, was anything approaching her age.
@@jacob4920 the 5 wizards were all part of the Maiar. As was Sauron. They were all present at the beginning during the singing that brought forth the world. So they’re much older than Galadriel. And then Cirdan the Shipwright was the elf that presided over the grey havens. And he was actually older then all other elves left in Middle Earth. I believe Galadriel and Celeborn are the next oldest after Cirdan.
@@udayanmandal2911 I'm of course talking about the Wizards in their "Middle Earth" forms. They only arrived at the beginning third of the Third Age, which puts their physical bodies at less than 3,000 years old.
I did not consider the Ents, or Tom Bombadil. But who really cares about "do nothing" Tom?
@@jamesramey8929 See my other response over the Wizards. I don't really care about lifetimes outside of Middle Earth. Because OF COURSE everyone outside of Middle Earth is essentially immortal!
@@jacob4920 - Galadriel and Glorfindel were the only two elves in Middle Earth at the time of the War of the Ring to have lived under the Light of the Two Trees.
Just watched the lord of the rings the return of the king, and there is still more Tolkien content, wonderful day.
I haven't read the books but andy serkis is doing them on audible
@@behnamdabestanizade I think I’ve read the books 50 times lol
@@behnamdabestanizade i read the books so many times and after i Saw the movies i had to read them 100 times more to wash the filth of Jackson away from my brain and soul.
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Thank Heavens!
A fellow purist! 😉👌
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I felt like I went to see a movie called "The Red Ferrari"
And AFTER I paid...
What I Really saw was a film about an Orange Corvette and a Garbage Truck.
Oh...don't get me wrong!
The race Track was absolutely Beautiful and the racing GEAR worn by the drivers seemed authentic enough, but...I Never saw a "Red Ferrari"
Now, I could "pretend" that the Orange Corvette was a
"Red Ferrari"
But....when they showed me a Garbage Truck.
(Merry and Pippin's absolute)
(Buffoonery)
(Frodo Cowering on Weathertop)
(Arwen showing up and saving Aragorn and the Hobbits)
(Wrong person deciding to go) (through Moria)
(ANTI-FARAMIR!!)
(Arwen heading to the Havens)
(Treebeard )
(Aragorn falling off a cliff )
(Elves at Helms Deep )
(Haldir getting killed)
(Haldir getting killed in a place that he never was at)
(The 5 things done wrong with the Palantir)
(Legolas shooting at the dead)
Well...expecting me to keep Pretending...that Garbage Truck was a Red Ferrari...was just more than I could take.
The saddest part is...
People who ONLY saw the films.
Think that they are fans of
"The Red Ferrari "
They have never seen A
" Red Ferrari"
They actually believe that an Orange Corvette and a Garbage Truck...is a Red Ferrari.
I got a question. Does middle-earth have a heaven and hell?
My top 3 favorite subjects: Bible History, American History, and Middle Earth History lol 😆. Thanks for the video Mr. West 😎👍🏼
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One cannot understand Tolkien's legendarium without also having some understanding of Catholic theology.
Note that the maps of Arda prior to the Akallabêth show Valinor where North America is, and some Abrahamic sects consider the USA and not Israel to be the promised land.
I would like to see the song of the Ainur , Eru and creation and how the world was when being created . They could have a brief episode and briefly explain the Years of the Lamps , Trees and First age as its essential to the whole story .
I think Tolkein knew that the third age was when the Eldar and Mair left is comparisons to Modernity in his life .
How it must feel living in a time from Kings to No Kings, from no hope to a spark of a future beginnings with some hope...I hope this makes sense!!!
This was a tragic time for almost most the Races, experts for the Hobbits, the Wizards and the elves!!!
Thanks for this overview for the first 2000 years of the 3rd Age...Until Saruman' ECH...Marion Baggins Out!!!
Nice video..The gates of the Argonath/pillars of the Kings scene from the Fellowship trailor was what made me view the lord of the Rings..made me Just wonder what they where all about..still remember how awsome they where interpretated in the film
after 20 years.
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We need a TV show of the lord of the rings and we need people like you to write it
I would be happy to be proven wrong, but IMHO because people like him (who respect the source material) will never be allowed to write it, we do not need TV show
@@AB8511 - Hollywood (at least in the last half-century of so) never respects source material - it would take funding for an independent production to do justice to the subject.
After Amazon is finished exploiting/corrupting the source material, and finally move on to their next franchise victim, perhaps an independent adaptation can be pursued by like-minded investors from the fan community....
@@Starbat88 oh my, have you seen the adaptation of The Wheel of Time by Amazon? In my opinion, it is terrible. Amazon’s next big fantasy epic will be LOTR, set in the second age I believe. I have no faith in it being anything good. Amazon is simply not suited for something like this. With the current state of Hollywood, i’d rather have no adaptation at all.
Will you make a series about The Book of Lost Tales? They are my favourite Tolkien books, and they have lots of good juicy information! Thanks as always! :D
Great video topic!!!! I haven’t really seen much video post regarding the Third Age. I’d like to see what little info we have on the fourth age too, although I know there isn’t much there.
A bit off-topic, but I hope WB will make either a live-action or a animated adaptation of Eorl The Young. The battle between the men of the West and the Wainriders has to be one of the few epic battles after Angmar's war with Arnor and in the War of the Rings.
Thanks. Beautiful image at the beginning.
Very interesting
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Love coming from work listening/watching these epic videos. Really helping me through stressful working. Keep up the great week. Btw have a great 2022
I feel like there should be an anthology series on each and every great kings of Gondor following Isidur's defeat against Sauron.
Was notified twice about this. Would have been perfect to get notified a third time given the title of today’s video
Dang, maybe I should reupload it just to get it 😂
@@MenoftheWest one does not simply have a video essay on the Third Age and not allow a third notification for his viewers 😂
Despite the accusations of "racialism" which might be leveled at Tolkien and his work, it's worth noting that the Kin-Strife of Gondor and its aftermath seem to be the author's own argument against precisely that kind of prejudice. An insistence on "purity of blood" diminished a kingdom, caused the abandonment of its duties to guard Sauron, brought on further wars, and allowed Mordor to begin rebuilding itself unnoticed. This bigotry served only the Dark Lord.
All this is a stern, if also a subtle, reminder that the origins of such hatreds lie with Morgoth and Sauron, not with the best interests of Men or the will of Iluvatar. Morgoth's final and cruelest legacy, perhaps, was to set the race of Men against itself, a lie that still costs us dearly today.
Damn that is what happens many things happen and the fall of Kingdoms and fading of Kings just build into the rise of new Hero's that will save middle earth amazing video as always 💓can't wait for the next one
A fitting title for this video
Great video! It gives perfect context to the events of the LOTR. 👍
My dream would be for any game developer to make a RPG or MMORPG based on the LOTR lore, or remake the existing LOTR MMO. There is just so much lore in this story and is a shame that no one has picked up this title again for MMO or RPG considerations.
With the death of Erenion Gil-Galad, the only descendant of Finwe left in Middle Earth was Galadriel. That would have made her the High Queen of the Noldor. But. In the Unfinished Tale about Galadriel, one draft had Galadriel obtaining permission from Manwe to return to Middle Earth, but before she left, Feanor revolted and therefore she was placed under the Ban as well. Perhaps that is why she didn't choose to take up the Queenship and rather remained just Lady Galadriel, because she took up the rule of Lorien as a kind of Stewardship instead of being the Queen.
There was also Elrond and his children. As well as distantly in the people of Gondor and Arnor descended from Elros.
Always look forward to these videos ❤
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Love it, Yoystan! Great topic!
These are awesome timelines! Well done bro! I enjoy them a lot!
Great video as always :)
Yet another great video
When are you going to do an Epic Character History on Ulmo The Vala?
Later this September, my friend!
Nice work dude thanks
Sauroman went into the east with the blue wizards for centuries?? I didn’t know that, could explain why we don’t see them anymore…..
Agreed, is there more about their journey?
I’m surprised this isn’t mentioned more.
He doesn't truly turn until a long time after he comes back he wasn't always corrupted.
I love this channel
Great video as always happy to see these timeline videos continue and love learning more about my favourite franchise good video yoysten keep up the great work and what is your opinion on the Amazon show and are you worried
Thanks Jarrett! I have some worries about Amazon, but it’s clear with their promo picture, they know what the fans like to see 🤩 so im hopeful!
Thanks
I have worries it will be to political
And I have a positive outlook
@@MenoftheWest - There was speculation on another RUclips channel that you were in that promo picture.
Could you please "time stamp" which artist is responsible for which picture? I love art and some of these pictures suit my tastes better than others, which is logical in most expressions, if you take my meaning. I'd like to be able to better explore those I enjoy, without having to wade through so much.....internet stuff, ya know? Also, can you do a video on Beregond and his son Bergil, with bits of Ioreth thrown in? I love them! Thank you. And, P.S. I hope you are settling into your new home well. (It can be a major learning experience, or, as I also told my kids.....An Adventure!, lol)
Great video. I had the thought while listening that a “what if” video on “what if the north kingdom hadn’t split” and what if Elendil and/or Gigalad had not died and took the ring would be cool videos. Anyways. Thanks again and enjoyed this. 🍻
when are you gonna do the last part of what's different from the books and movies ? Keep up the good work btw !
I have a question that I would love for you guys to make a video about. What is Elessar/Aragorn's full genealogy? I have it in my head that he is the heir of all the clans of men and descended from many of the Elf Lords as well. It would be cool to see his family tree in a detailed video where you point out all of the connections. It might be even more interesting if you did it for Eldarion instead.
Why didn't the elves of Edhellond had any contact or interactions with the Men of Gondor?
Idk why, but the thumbnail picture made me think of that song, 🎵 "STOP! In the name oof LOOve!..."🎶
I thought that Sauron held the nine rings of men - at least by the Third Age - not the Nazgul. I could be wrong though. Thank you for the excellent video!!! :)
When it dawned on me (decades ago, I'm old) that our heroes of the War of the Ring were actually shadows compared to those at the start of the Third Age it really made me think. How would the Free Peoples have survived without Gandalf pulling multiple strings. It also made me realise what a close run thing it all was. Chance, luck, coincidence and the hastiness of Sauron was of more importance at times. Please don't misunderstand me, I think that The Fellowship were all truly heroic in their own way. Yet it feels like the beginning of the Third Age was the start of the waning of Elven, Gondorian and Arnorian power. What I would term "The Age of Legends" was effectively over.
Maybe you disagree?
"The Lord Helps Those Who Help Themselves". - Trad.
Gandalf who was sent by Manwë (who was closest in thought to Eru Ilúvatar) knew that as long as those in the fight against Sauron put in their best effort, Eru would come to the aid of His Children in Middle Earth. This divine providence (per Tolkien Letters) happened three times regarding the One Ring:
- Eru made sure that Bilbo found the One Ring on the tunnel floor;
- Eru gave Gandalf a new physical form after the battle with Durin's Bane;
- Eru pushed/tripped Gollum over the precipice into the fires of Orodruin.
There should be a spin off Middle Earth series about the fall of Arnor.
I enjoy all of your videos. Could you make a epic character history of the father of Aragorn, Arathorn if there is anything recorded of him
Aragorn's father was Arathorn II, Arathorn (or Arathorn I) was his great-great grandfather.
Wpw that was a great video
Here's a question - what are Hobbits? Were they made by Illuvatar like Men and Elves or Aulë like the Dwarfs? Why did they appear so late? Are they a degenerated race of Men? Are they descended from the Petty Dwarves? I have questions, questions that need answering!
The people in the least technologically developed areas of the West County and Wales are often referred to as "hobbits" by the British from more cosmopolitan areas.
Hobbits are a kind of "man" apparently.
@@tominiowa2513 Haha no we affectionately refer to them as sheep shaggers or inbreds
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Eärnur reminds me a little of Tulkas
Let's see... Arnor splits and then falls to the Witch King of Angmar, Moria falls to Orcs and a Balrog, Erebor is taken by Smaug, who also wipes out Dale for good measure, Gondor is barely defending its borders and loses key cities and strongholds to Sauron and his Nazgul, the Elves bugger off to Valinor because they're aloof p*ssies, leaving only Rivendell, Lothlorien and the Grey Havens with the local ruler and his staff, the Dwarves dig in where they can and stay put, Rohan does... something, and Sauron is happily rebuilding Barad-dur as well as his armies.
I'd say things aren't great.
Anyone else ready for Sept 23rd?
Dark times indeed for middle earth
Where were Gandalf when Arnor fell? And why didn’t the dwarf go and ask Glorfindel for help with the balrog? He might have some good ideas…
What if Merry and Pippin went with Frodo and Sam during the Breaking of the Fellowship?
You didn’t mention Shelob at all! I’m very upset!
The fading of the Numenorean lines makes me very sad tbh
What if Elrod took the ring of air to valinor
I'm on some shag tobacco and a pipe thinking of Theoden King of the Rohirim cheers
All the Dwarves and they couldn't defend Khazad-Dum against 1 Balrog ?
Yeah. Balrogs are some of the most terrible and great servants of Morgoth. They also inspire fear, so it's not just that they couldn't defeat it, they were also afraid of it.
As Gandalf said to Aragorn and Boromir when faced with the Balrog, "Swords are useless here".
Only another Maia or an elf who had lived under the Light of the Trees would be able to defeat a Balrog.
@@tominiowa2513 Well said! :)
So many video and so little time.
Do you think hobbits evolved into men after the fourth age ?
Wangriders
@@Enerdhil - More likely "Wainriders".
Iam a Hobbit and I love shrooms.
But not Farmer Maggot's mastiffs.