The Olympics rules are just ridiculous. Just let the best weightlifters battle in the most important competition. I want to see 5 chinese guys in the same weight category, who cares. These rules are made by the western countries just to avoid China winning 300 medals. Rahmat not being in the Olympics is one of the most unfair things that ever happened in the sport.
no. if china is gonna get 190 191 189 total and win all the time might as well just have the best go so that every other country can also comes to compete. since china is still gonna get first let there be space for other country to enter or even earn some medal
If I'd want to see a bunch of Chinese guys battling out who has doped the best, then I'd watch the Chinese championship or whatever. If I watch the Olympics, I want to see an international competition.
100% correct Gil and that’s sad. The IWF has to convince the IOC to permit weightlifting at Olympics to more closely resemble weight at IWF comps as far as # of weight classes and # of competitors for each country. The world championships in Dec should more closely resemble the April qualifier.
The unseen facts feom Rizky who win gold medal, you can see the podcast with DEDDY CORBUZIER, RIZKY not use whey protein 😂 and just use fresh milk, how brutal his genetics
I’m so looking forward to the worlds in dec. Rahmat is now lifting 81 as I understand. As a full 81 165-215 is possible imo. He will beat the NK Ri and Rizki as well in that case. Seb you are correct about the 180 power clean. He actually catches it an inch or 2 above parallel. Shi’s 190 from 2019 worlds while extraordinary and unexpected (crowd actually gasps!) was extremely difficult. Remember Rahmat “That which does not kill me makes me stronger “. Let’s see your comeback.
Shi's 190 power clean was difficult? Have we watched the same thing? He pulls it so high he throat punches himself with the bar, and then eventually catches it in a quarter squat. He's so far above parallel. Secondly, that was in competition. There is nothing close to being equivalent to it. Edit: He has also done a 190 power clean + power jerk in training as a 69 kg lifter.
I stand corrected Adstellae. I went back and had another look at. Shi did catch it just as high as the 180 by Rahmat. I guess I misremembered it because because in my mind a guy who power cleans and jerks 190 should be be cl & jerking 205-210 not the 197 (still phenomenal) that is his best.
@@JohnDoherty-dl2fz The problem (as usual) is that he squat jerks. Shi is good despite squat jerking, not because of it (well, when he was still healthy). In another universe he'd be a split jerker and do 205+ in competition.
@@AdStellae- Shi didnt need to go any where close to his limits during 2019 because he wanted the money lmao. We cant forget that he clean and jerked 205+ multiple times.
I hear this explanation about Shi’s cl& jk all the time. I wish someone would explain to me why he was so intent on pushing the snatch record up (3 or 4 records 2018-2021) but not so much in jerk. This is before he got injured. Supposedly 7 or 8 kg under his max. Might be regretting it now.
objectively. because, in weightlifting, athletes from different weight classes are compared by sinclair and rahmats 200 had the highest sinclair. whether you agree with that or not is subjective, but objectively it is better
I just want to add that if humans are the subject, there is no exact math that will be the true answer. It's as simple as that. But again, he is amazing and I'm rooting for him because I love his style. Thanks about the comment though
@@guimello_silva subjectively i think my 80kg snatch at 58kg bodyweight is better than lasha’s 225kg snatch. i mean i lifted more relative to my bodyweight than he did. that’s an extreme example of course, but that’s why we have the sinclair formula, which we have to treat as objective because this is a sport we made up and not some law of the universe
why he recover only his left leg after standing up in a clean? It makes the bar a little right every time he drops the bar. And his dad has to pull the bar to the center of the lifting platform.
How does this compare with Stefan Botev C&J of 260kg 5 times in training. Seb we need you on the IWF board. In January decisions will be made for the 2028 Olympic Weightlifting.
He told me his best ever clean and jerk was 260kg and didn't mention anything about hitting it so many times. He did however say that his best power clean was 240kg which is absolutely absurd. If we include these sorts of lifts where weightlifters are months out from competition then we have to include Rahmat's best which is rumoured to be around the 215kg mark. Btw if you are interested, my interview with Botev is around an hour long and he goes into lots of amazing detail. I'd highly recommend it! It's on the Weightlifting House podcast from a few years ago.
personal opinion remember everyone is entitled to their own.. i personally think xiaojun and lashas c&js are more impressive, yes lasha world record this strongest man consistent world records wins everyone knows big guys usually push very big weight, but that is 255kg or 526lbs... even if he is 200-300 pounds that is truly INSANE. xiaojun is beautiful, i've always loved the chinese c&j form into an overhead squat.. and exectues it PERFECTLY. rahmat's strength is truly inspiring and amazing..not trying to shade rahmat either.
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The Olympics rules are just ridiculous. Just let the best weightlifters battle in the most important competition. I want to see 5 chinese guys in the same weight category, who cares. These rules are made by the western countries just to avoid China winning 300 medals. Rahmat not being in the Olympics is one of the most unfair things that ever happened in the sport.
Totally agree. The storyline is proof enough. Great video. Thanks
no. if china is gonna get 190 191 189 total and win all the time might as well just have the best go so that every other country can also comes to compete. since china is still gonna get first let there be space for other country to enter or even earn some medal
If I'd want to see a bunch of Chinese guys battling out who has doped the best, then I'd watch the Chinese championship or whatever. If I watch the Olympics, I want to see an international competition.
The Olympics is a competition of representation. Silly Billy
nah 1 country per catagory is better. Otherwise we wouldnt see these great comps. Then we get a good ditribution of countries at olympics.
The qualifying event was more exciting than the Olympics. All the best athletes were there, struggling to overcome their nemesis.
100% correct Gil and that’s sad. The IWF has to convince the IOC to permit weightlifting at Olympics to more closely resemble weight at IWF comps as far as # of weight classes and # of competitors for each country. The world championships in Dec should more closely resemble the April qualifier.
It's unFortunate why only 1 from them can go to Olympics ,I had feeling Rahmat would go to LA 2028 with Full Emotion
yes we hope so
I will watch everything you put out about the 73kgs category - simply fascinating
Such a painful story, but at the same time a great story. Fair play to Rizki, he stepped up when it mattered most.
rahmat dad arm is more scary......
dude is in shape too
Ah yes a WH video, i watch
The fact that 200 kg clean feels like nothing to him is crazy at this weight.
I have never seen anyone get under a bar as fast as Rahmat. That upset at the last chance qualifier was insanity.
My favourite weightlifter
That man powering 180, like chill bro lol
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Love watching him lift, dude is a monster
Can someone explain why Rahmat is wearing team China's gear? That took me by suprise
It was a gift from Shi Zhiyong just before the session started. That's why Rizki has a black China top on too.
lxj 200kg @ 77bw 2015 world champs training hall is also up there
unfortunate he didn't make it to the olympics this year but he'll eventually have many medals under his belt I bet
The most impressiv lift yes, but Karlos with 220 power jerk is maybe the most brutal move I've ever seen!
I’m so looking forward to the worlds in dec. Rahmat is now lifting 81 as I understand. As a full 81 165-215 is possible imo. He will beat the NK Ri and Rizki as well in that case. Seb you are correct about the 180 power clean. He actually catches it an inch or 2 above parallel. Shi’s 190 from 2019 worlds while extraordinary and unexpected (crowd actually gasps!) was extremely difficult. Remember Rahmat “That which does not kill me makes me stronger “. Let’s see your comeback.
Shi's 190 power clean was difficult? Have we watched the same thing? He pulls it so high he throat punches himself with the bar, and then eventually catches it in a quarter squat. He's so far above parallel.
Secondly, that was in competition. There is nothing close to being equivalent to it.
Edit: He has also done a 190 power clean + power jerk in training as a 69 kg lifter.
I stand corrected Adstellae. I went back and had another look at. Shi did catch it just as high as the 180 by Rahmat. I guess I misremembered it because because in my mind a guy who power cleans and jerks 190 should be be cl & jerking 205-210 not the 197 (still phenomenal) that is his best.
@@JohnDoherty-dl2fz The problem (as usual) is that he squat jerks. Shi is good despite squat jerking, not because of it (well, when he was still healthy).
In another universe he'd be a split jerker and do 205+ in competition.
@@AdStellae- Shi didnt need to go any where close to his limits during 2019 because he wanted the money lmao. We cant forget that he clean and jerked 205+ multiple times.
I hear this explanation about Shi’s cl& jk all the time. I wish someone would explain to me why he was so intent on pushing the snatch record up (3 or 4 records 2018-2021) but not so much in jerk. This is before he got injured. Supposedly 7 or 8 kg under his max. Might be regretting it now.
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Just wondering, will some videos related to Weeraphon Wichuma pop up in near future?
Love you guys, but we have to agree that it's subjectively better... Subjectively. But here's one of a kind
objectively. because, in weightlifting, athletes from different weight classes are compared by sinclair and rahmats 200 had the highest sinclair. whether you agree with that or not is subjective, but objectively it is better
@@defnotnath4nie129 sure, it always works
I just want to add that if humans are the subject, there is no exact math that will be the true answer. It's as simple as that. But again, he is amazing and I'm rooting for him because I love his style. Thanks about the comment though
@@guimello_silva subjectively i think my 80kg snatch at 58kg bodyweight is better than lasha’s 225kg snatch. i mean i lifted more relative to my bodyweight than he did. that’s an extreme example of course, but that’s why we have the sinclair formula, which we have to treat as objective because this is a sport we made up and not some law of the universe
why he recover only his left leg after standing up in a clean? It makes the bar a little right every time he drops the bar. And his dad has to pull the bar to the center of the lifting platform.
it's not a big deal. if you can catch, lock out, and stabilize the jerk, there's really no way to miss after that.
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How does this compare with Stefan Botev C&J of 260kg 5 times in training. Seb we need you on the IWF board. In January decisions will be made for the 2028 Olympic Weightlifting.
He told me his best ever clean and jerk was 260kg and didn't mention anything about hitting it so many times. He did however say that his best power clean was 240kg which is absolutely absurd. If we include these sorts of lifts where weightlifters are months out from competition then we have to include Rahmat's best which is rumoured to be around the 215kg mark. Btw if you are interested, my interview with Botev is around an hour long and he goes into lots of amazing detail. I'd highly recommend it! It's on the Weightlifting House podcast from a few years ago.
What about the best training hall snatch lift in the 21st century?
Gotta be Lasha's 215kg snatch from 2021 Worlds.
@@WeightliftingHouseHey I discovered that Lu’s 175kg snatch in the rio training hall surpasses Lasha’s 215kg by a few points.
@@TsarNicholas2nd I have to say I don't remember that!
@@WeightliftingHouseYeah it popped on my feed when I saw “Lu Xiaojun 175kg snatch in Rio training hall”
What belt is he wearing?
Rizki bizness this weightlifting lark
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Haha you've finally started pronouncing Shi Zhiyong's name closer to the actual Chinese pronounciation
karlos's training hall session was 100% better
personal opinion remember everyone is entitled to their own.. i personally think xiaojun and lashas c&js are more impressive, yes lasha world record this strongest man consistent world records wins everyone knows big guys usually push very big weight, but that is 255kg or 526lbs... even if he is 200-300 pounds that is truly INSANE. xiaojun is beautiful, i've always loved the chinese c&j form into an overhead squat.. and exectues it PERFECTLY. rahmat's strength is truly inspiring and amazing..not trying to shade rahmat either.
For fks sake, stop calling everything "the most epic unbelievable" lost its meaning
It is not more impressive than Karlos.