This is the G2 version, I had the first (nikon-mount) version that came out some years ago. During the first year I owned it, I dropped it (bag-strap snapped) from 1.5 meters onto gravel with nothing to cushion the impact. Nothing happened. It has worked flawlessly since then :D
One of the problems associated with variable aperture lenses is the sweet-spot which is USUALLY two stops in from the fastest aperture ( at each end of the zoom) , ALSO with this lens , the need to purchase a " specialist" camera bag is a must , which of course limits ease and speed of use .Another thing to consider , is with several airlines limiting he amount of carry-on luggage , you'll need to make sacrifices , if you're only allowed a single carry-on bag , and you are travelling with children/babies
Great review. However, it would be fantastic if at the end of every review you could make some alternate recommendations for similar lenses that the reviewed lens competes with. As beginners, it can be really hard to look around and find a lens that is perfect for us. Saying something like the image quality is good but not great is not as intuitive as saying that the IQ is good but not as good as this other lens that probably doesn't do something else as well. Other than that, your reviews are perfect. Thank you for your work! :D
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Thank you for another superb review, Mr Frost (especially "cool" name to have at Christmas). Most reviews I've seen of The Tamron 150-600 G2 are entirely positive, but your results seem more realistic given the boundaries pushed by this class of lens. It was firmly on my shopping list until the new Sigma 60-600 came along. Any chance you could test that one soon?! The Sigma's FL range seems insanely ambitious but I've seen promising results on the forums I frequent. Major suppliers or Sigma themselves ought to recognise the confidence potential purchasers rightfully have in you, and the sooner they provide our trusted reviewers with units to test the more they'll sell over the competition - if they deserve to!
I am also exited about the new Sigma 60-600. The reviews and comments I have read so far are very positive. Dustin Abbot has reviewed the 60-600 along with a few other reviewers. I always check out Christoper's reviews because I find them consistent, factual and to the point, without waffle.
I have this lens, and I use it on a Canon 80D. I used the Tamron Tap-in console and dramatically improved the sharpness. I also did a firmware update, which improved things even further. I am very impressed with this lens, which I primarily use for birding. It is very sharp at 600mm. I love your review, and appreciate your thoroughness.
You have to calibrate any of these super tele lenses to get the best results. The chances of the lens and camera body being in perfect harmony out of the box is almost zero. The G2 is an awesome lens, spend some time calibrating it and then enjoy the results.
You don't need to calibrate on the R6 as well. Mirrorless cameras calibrate the focus every time you take a shot unlike the DSLRs for which you need the adjustments.
Yes, the problem with teleconverters is that the light is limited, i have to use an external light source when switching on my camera to get it to focus, and on the sigma 100-400 i have to press the AFL auto focus button on the lens
Hi Christopher, I have this lens, and have been using both Sigma and the lens you used first with my Canon 7D mark ii, and now with my Canon 5dsr. I do mainly birding and macro photography, but let me tell you I have done all kind of photos with this lens. Compared with Sigma , I ended choosing this one 2 years ago. The worst part is the long lens hood wich is quite tricky to get on the lens... But this is a great lens. Cheaper than Canon's L lenses, and I really love it. It never leaves my camera. Thanks for good review!!! Regards from Uruguay.
Chris, many thanks for your video. It certainly seems from your tests that the Tamron is better with the 42MP full frame than the others, especially the cropped camera. Quite interesting really and this was not really apparent with your Sigma 150-600 tests. There is clearly something wrong with this particular copy of the Tamron lens, however, given the top right hand corner issues and indeed, the whole lens performance could be impacted by whatever is causing this problem. Overall, from your chart tests, I would say that the Sigma is a clear winner, certainly on cropped sensor cameras. Again this may be because you had a excellent Sigma copy and a poor Tamron copy. Would you agree with these observations? When it comes to real world, when distances are often greater than for chart tests, it is more difficult to compare. Can I ask what distances you had between camera and chart please for the various focal lengths? Thanks.
Mick Andrews, yes, it did happen to me, as well, I had 2 of these lenses, the first one was not so accurate as my second copy. And my 5dsr manages much, but much better the images, than the Canon 7d mark ii.
I have this one. Very happy with it. I use it on my Canon 80D and Sony A7III camera's, and even on my Panasonic GH5 for video. My main use is at race tracks and a bit of wildlife.
@@peteryungcp There are almost no adapters that *officially* support AF-C. I use the Viltrox Adapters and they work good. It is not perfect, but we are talking about an adapter. Viltrox has regular updates and there are improvements over time. I have a Viltrox for EF-Nex and one EF-MFT. AF works on the Viltrox, and using the focus distance limiting switch helps, but i would not advise anybody to count on AF-C with an adapted lens.
valcked, how have you found the AF tracking with this lens when the subject is moving towards you? I realize the dual pixel AF on the 80D is better than my 5D markiii AF, but i have a shocking time trying to maintain focus on anything moving towards or away from me. I use a Canon 300mm f4, Canon 100-400mm and a Canon 500mm F4
i bought this cheaply and i love it, you accept its limitations just for the sheer fun, with processing and tap in and focal 2 it does the job well easily justifying not using the 500 or 600 fixed nikons adapted to canon , which would often not be an option due to portability, best to try to stay a bit under 600, 500 was very good considering
Thank you very much for the excellent level of the test. Taking into account the different performances in different cameras used in the test: Has been used the micro-focus adjustment with the TAP-in Console for each of them, and especially with the APSC Canon camera? Regards.
Chris I have the tamron g2 150-600 , the problem I am facing is with the Nikon z mount Z7.2. I had to purchase a Nikon 2x s converter for my Nikon z 70_200 mm lens. So a connection to the Z mount for the Tamron f mount is not going to be usable, with the Nikon to Tamron range. That's the technology information for mount and lens ....so here's the question ❓❓❓⁉️. Because the sensor is mirrorless ....on mirror less cameras , obviously by the cameras naming . To add a tamron lens I would need two adapters on the camera z mount if I wanted to use a 2x s converter. One Nikon to f mount and a f mount converter.Is it possible to use an extension tude on the end of the Nikon Z two-times converter to create space to mount any lens f mount Tamron zoom. Given the sensor is mirror less and produces the image directly to the viewer screen ....so I would be using the two times Nikon converter with an extension tude that would allow an f lens on the camera to be compensated by way of allowing a safe space for the f mount lens not to damage the Nikon converter .. making it possible to make f lens usable with the Nikon version of 2 times converter. Would that type of tude or extension work . Or is it yet more money 💰?.Phew I need to rest my typing finger now? I hope I made the question clear .
It's a very interesting video, but my question is :D if you were buying a telephoto lens and had a choice between the sigma 150-600 C and the tamron 150-600G2, which would be the right choice? I hear nothing but praise for the sigma regarding image quality.... but I like the way the tamron looks, system RP + 40D Later R6
Hi Chris, thanks a lot for this profound review! How does this lens converter combination compare to the Canon EF 5.6/400mm L with the Canon EF 1.4x Extender Mk. III? Best wishes, Ralf
I have this lens. Just sent it to repairs because of weird ghosting, or what ever you might call it, as your images in some cases where so fuzzy that they where practically no use at all. But you can get good photos that much is true. If my copy of the lens, when it comes back, works fine without that weird fuzziness the lens is good enough for me.
Nice review. Could you possibly make a video on your testing setup? Particularly the image quality test. For example the distance to subject and lighting conditions. Do these tests vary among lens focal length and F stop?
That jitter with the VC (image stabilisation) is a deal breaker for video guys. :( Does any video guys own it that can testify the other modes work better than shown here? (I would use it for surfing/panning for video)
Interesting IQ results compared to its direct Sigma competitor. On your tests the Tamron is sharper on high resolution full-frame, but the Sigma is sharper on high res APS-C.
I assume your sharpness/contrast test image is some sort of print out. I'm just curious how large it is and what your set up is to get those shots. You must need to move the camera a lot for various focal lengths (especially for this lens). Do you have any behind the scenes photos?
I have spoken with Tamron sales in Hong Kong and they said only prime lens would most likely use "SP" logo in future. G2 are aimed at professional use and they are all design in similar style, "Golden metal circle"near the mount. You can compared with the new version of 70-300 Di VC USD it's not marked as "G2" and design in the old style.
Hi Christopher, Unlikely you will see this 4 years on but on the off chance you do, in your opinion is it worth upgrading from the Sigma "C" to this lens ? I will using it on a Canon R and R3
@TheBorgCollective No he doesnt "seven of nine" 😉😁......he only states that the build quality is good and the VC is out of this world.... he is not impressed with the image quality.....but doesnt mention anywhere how the tam holds up to the sigma as it goes for iq....
Hello Chris, thanks for your excellent work, it helps us a lot to decide where to invest our money. I want to ask you if you had to choose between the Tamron and the Sigma for a Canon EOS R ..... which would be your choice? Thank you very much.
Neil Sheriff Thanks for reviewing this lens Christopher. I enjoy your reviews because they follow a similar format and are to the point, with little waffle. Could you please find the time to review the new Sigma 60-600 sports lens? In my opinion this new lens will be a best seller because of the image quality and the massive focal range, along with the just about affordable price for an enthusiast photographer.
@@christopherfrost Thanks Christopher, I will look forward to the review when it happens, I can imagine this occupies quite a bit of your spare time so don't feel pressured to do the review quickly.
Hi Christopher. Just purchased one of the Tamron bad boy 150-600 G2 lenses. Its going on my Canon D90. So far so good. I know im getting used to it, but looked at the quality of the pics as well as the ISO settings and speed. I was just out test shooting, and i dont think the lens is as sharp as it should be. Any comments or thoughts as to setup, what am i missing etc? Can you tell me what the 'minor' adjustments on the canon were that you talked about please?
I used an mc-11 adapter and put it on my a7r ii but if it's not perfectly bright sunlight hitting my subject the camera can't find the subject. I'm pretty sure it's all the cameras fault.
Good review........I have this lens after selling the G1 version..........however with the de-centering problem.....and my own results.....I think it's a sub par copy!
thank Christopher for your always info-packed reviews. could you please ask Tamron for the TAMRON TAP-in Console allowing you micro adjust the 150-600 lens, so we could see if sharpness improved. Thank again.
Hi Chris, it's not relevant to the subject much, but I want to know whether Canon Extender version i vs Version iii has a much difference based on image quality wise. Or any other this that I need to concern with...
Brilliant Chris, can't thank you enough. I was looking for a cheaper alternative from the expansive 100-400mm Sony for my A7Rii. Considering now the Sony A version with Sony LA-EA3. Can I please check what adapter you're using to mount it on your Sony? Thanks
I used the Sigma MC-11, although on my a7R II the AF was a bit slow, if memory serves - I think the camera doesn't like working with a lens and adaptor when the aperture isn't very bright
Hey Chris , for first ,have very nice New Year, ok!!! So you dont made a video about best bargain to photography 2018 like you did once , right??? Thank you for your videos, i very like it.
Always enjoy your reviews, in regards to the described focus "centering issue" at 600mm, what's the option for calibrating / correcting this issue; would you need to send the lens back to the manufacturer?
Probably need to send it back to get it adjusted. AFMA using the camera body or AF calibration using the usb console only adjust front and back focus issues.
the only thing you can adjust yourself is front and back focus - when the lens focuses further or closer than what the camera tells it to - if you use MF it's completely irrelevant, and I'd be surprised if Chris used AF for the chart test shots
Christopher there is an inconsistency. You show the IQ is "pretty sharp in the middle" on the 20MP full frame at 5:38 but then magically "image quality is very good in the middle" on the 42MP sensor at 7:41. The only variable here is changing the sensor, thus it is not consistent to have a lesser IQ at the pixel level on the lower resolution sensor, unless something else is being varied unintentionally.
8:45 Looks like you may have had a bad copy. I would think the corners should be nearly equally sharp/unsharp, but not that much of a change. That's a bit concerning to think this may have been a bad copy or a decentered lens (unless there was any errors in testing).
HI Christopher , I was able to get the Canon EOS 600D Body , still have the Kit Lens from my old 400D , what I need is one Lens for Outdoor on a Model Plane and heli Field to make Videos, I do now have to much money , but what would you recommend ?
Is it me - or did understand this incorrectly, it seems the lens is actually performing its best on the Sony as compared to a Canon body even though it is a Canon mount?
The Sony A7Rii is a vastly superior camera to the tired old Canon 6D, in terms of specs. The A7Rii sensor produces far more resolution and detail. If you're talking about the Canon M3, this is an APS-C camera and isn't using the full resolution of the full frame lens.
You can consider that at around 683 AF Points on the A7III its going to improve the performance of most lenses. But I always got the impression that Sigma performance was limited in Canons firmware. On Sony it seems unlocked and much faster. Even the focus distance limiter and AF speed are noticeably more functional.
@@AcidTripwire As you said, "Canon M3, this is an APS-C camera and isn't using the full resolution of the full frame lens". I think the more precises comment should be the pixel density issues. APS-C is smaller size sensor but put in 2.4M pixel on it. We should expect it can't perform as well as 6D which is less pixel results lower pixel density, that's why performs better in this test and produce less CR. I would expect this lens would perform better on Canon 7D Mark II because it has less pixel then M3 on the same size APS-C sensor.
@@peteryungcp Agreed! All those pixels are packed into a small cutout of the entire glass which cannot produce nearly enough detail and resolution to match the sensor. This highlights imperfections in the glass but thankfully it also makes vignetting a non-issue as a trade off. I don't think manufacturers should keep packing high resolution into APS-C cameras, I would rather have better image quality and high ISO performance. But of course more megapixels means more sales
You may be right I have seen Sigma lenses perform better using live-view focus (in sharpness) no matter how you adjust the micro adjustments on a Canon camera I have. It does a reasonable job with live-view and a noticeably less nice sharp focus job using the phase detect even after micro adjustments - Canon lenses have had no such problems -in my experience. But at least it works.
The CA could be an indirect result of the decentering. Heard two cases of reviewers receiving decentered lenses at this point. Hope it's a coincidence.
Michael Liang Hey i am getting the first version from a friend. What is you honest opinion on the G1 version. I got mixed reviews from people. some say it’s a soft lens and autofocus is sluggish ?
I have the G2, my friend has the G1. The G2 might be slightly sharper wide open, but in reality the performance is close. The main advantage is the better construction, but if I were you I wouldn't upgrade if you're happy with the G1.
Great review, really useful, since I have both the 150-600 G2 and the 1.4 TC. The only thing I don't find logical is the difference in sharpness between ff and crop sensor. Optically thinking there is no difference between the two, even the crop sensor may have sharper edges because the whole lens surface is not needed to achieve the image but only the centre. My opinion is the difference in your test may be due to uncalibrated body/lens combo but not to the sensor surface.
How's the focus breathing? The one reason I don't leave Canon lenses is because pretty much everything else really cheats you out of distance on the long end of the zoom. ..Joe
is the focus deliberately kept slower in order to keep focus accuracy, or is it because at 600mm the focus lens needs to displace itself over a longer distance?
You're partly right! The focus is slower in general because as you said, it has to be in order to be accurate. Canon USM lenses can fling themselves into focus at silly speeds because they are intimately familiar with the focusing algorithms of the native camera. Sigma doesn't have that luxury. At the longer focal lengths, it isn't slowed down because the focusing element physically moves further, it is purposely slowed electronically, because there is much less depth of field and so again it must slow down more to preserve accuracy and not overshoot the mark. Canon lenses do the same. The element is still covering the same distance.
Hi Chris! Thank you for your videos. Any thoughts or plans on covering the Viltrox EF-EOS M2 Auto Focus Lens Mount Adapter Ring 0.71X Focal Lenth Multiplier please?
The image stabilization was pretty disappointing for me. It only works fine on stationary objects up to 1/320s at 600mm. It also adds an odd blur streak/haloing to some images. I'm also put off by the fact that the lens doesn't automatically disable panning detection and there's viewfinder lag. Sometimes I see a bird flying too fast and don't have the time to switch the IS options and end up with a blurry shot despite a high shutter speed.
@@anunheardtruth3071 there is no meaningful difference between the tamron and the sigma. Complaints about either lens usually come from people that don't know how to shoot properly or know how to calibrate a lens.
I suspect the Sony has better chance of nailing focus due to the mirrorless design. Seems like you got a bad copy anyway. In every other test the Tamron is one of the sharpest 600mm.
Hi sir, I'm Nikon D750 user, I have nikon Af 80-200 D ED lens. Now I want to buy a long telephoto zoom lens. I suggest nikon 200-500mm f5.6 & tamron 150-600 g2 lens. Please suggest me which lens is best & sharp for my Nikon D750.
I also have been looking for a super tele for my D750. I saw reviews on this lens and shied away from it. The Sigma seemed a better buy. However, I think I'm going to sell my first born for a used Nikon 600. I have a an old Sigma 50-500 that I have used three times at 500 mm. First time was photographing a heron with the image tack sharp. The second time was an image of an elephant seal coming out of the ocean. I cropped the image and it was still sharp. The third time was yesterday trying to photograph a hummingbird. It came out a bit soft but I don't know if it was me, the bird moving or a combination of the two. 500 mm does not reach a bird 30 feet away unless using a blind. Good luck.
This is the G2 version, I had the first (nikon-mount) version that came out some years ago. During the first year I owned it, I dropped it (bag-strap snapped) from 1.5 meters onto gravel with nothing to cushion the impact. Nothing happened. It has worked flawlessly since then :D
all owners nightmare to drop the lense *knock on wood*
One of the problems associated with variable aperture lenses is the sweet-spot which is USUALLY two stops in from the fastest aperture ( at each end of the zoom) , ALSO with this lens , the need to purchase a " specialist" camera bag is a must , which of course limits ease and speed of use .Another thing to consider , is with several airlines limiting he amount of carry-on luggage , you'll need to make sacrifices , if you're only allowed a single carry-on bag , and you are travelling with children/babies
Great review. However, it would be fantastic if at the end of every review you could make some alternate recommendations for similar lenses that the reviewed lens competes with. As beginners, it can be really hard to look around and find a lens that is perfect for us. Saying something like the image quality is good but not great is not as intuitive as saying that the IQ is good but not as good as this other lens that probably doesn't do something else as well.
Other than that, your reviews are perfect. Thank you for your work! :D
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Great review!! Also nice you tested it with teleconverter :)
I recently bought Tamron's recent version of the 90mm Macro. Their new build standard is amazing.
Just remember corners don’t matter when it just bokeh! Great performance that’s for sure.
Love my G2. It is amazing. I can't use it enough
Any issue with autofocus freeze?
Bro, you have a very soft, easy to listen to speaking voice. Good review too. Good job!
Thank you for another superb review, Mr Frost (especially "cool" name to have at Christmas). Most reviews I've seen of The Tamron 150-600 G2 are entirely positive, but your results seem more realistic given the boundaries pushed by this class of lens. It was firmly on my shopping list until the new Sigma 60-600 came along. Any chance you could test that one soon?! The Sigma's FL range seems insanely ambitious but I've seen promising results on the forums I frequent. Major suppliers or Sigma themselves ought to recognise the confidence potential purchasers rightfully have in you, and the sooner they provide our trusted reviewers with units to test the more they'll sell over the competition - if they deserve to!
I am also exited about the new Sigma 60-600. The reviews and comments I have read so far are very positive. Dustin Abbot has reviewed the 60-600 along with a few other reviewers. I always check out Christoper's reviews because I find them consistent, factual and to the point, without waffle.
I have this lens, and I use it on a Canon 80D. I used the Tamron Tap-in console and dramatically improved the sharpness. I also did a firmware update, which improved things even further. I am very impressed with this lens, which I primarily use for birding. It is very sharp at 600mm. I love your review, and appreciate your thoroughness.
Robert, was the tap-in to adjust the lens calibration? thanks in advance
You have to calibrate any of these super tele lenses to get the best results. The chances of the lens and camera body being in perfect harmony out of the box is almost zero. The G2 is an awesome lens, spend some time calibrating it and then enjoy the results.
how do you calibrate i have never done this. I have the nikon z 6
@@herlingadventures you don't need to calibrate the Z series cameras because the focus sensors are built into the image sensor.
@@slooob23 How about canon r6?
You don't need to calibrate on the R6 as well. Mirrorless cameras calibrate the focus every time you take a shot unlike the DSLRs for which you need the adjustments.
Bought 1 of these used for £400 4 months ago and love it on my Canon 6D can't wait to try it on my 5D mark iv when it arrives
Wow, what a steal! Where I live, it's usually sold for 700 € used, which converts to about £600.
G1 or G2?
PEDRO MONSIVAIS G2
Omg since two day i was watching about 150-600 and what appends if we use 1.4x or 2x
Your in the future bro
Yes, the problem with teleconverters is that the light is limited, i have to use an external light source when switching on my camera to get it to focus, and on the sigma 100-400 i have to press the AFL auto focus button on the lens
Hi Christopher, I have this lens, and have been using both Sigma and the lens you used first with my Canon 7D mark ii, and now with my Canon 5dsr. I do mainly birding and macro photography, but let me tell you I have done all kind of photos with this lens. Compared with Sigma , I ended choosing this one 2 years ago. The worst part is the long lens hood wich is quite tricky to get on the lens... But this is a great lens. Cheaper than Canon's L lenses, and I really love it. It never leaves my camera. Thanks for good review!!! Regards from Uruguay.
It's a great lens for bird photography :-)
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Perfect transition, in other words ;-)
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Chris, many thanks for your video. It certainly seems from your tests that the Tamron is better with the 42MP full frame than the others, especially the cropped camera. Quite interesting really and this was not really apparent with your Sigma 150-600 tests. There is clearly something wrong with this particular copy of the Tamron lens, however, given the top right hand corner issues and indeed, the whole lens performance could be impacted by whatever is causing this problem.
Overall, from your chart tests, I would say that the Sigma is a clear winner, certainly on cropped sensor cameras. Again this may be because you had a excellent Sigma copy and a poor Tamron copy. Would you agree with these observations?
When it comes to real world, when distances are often greater than for chart tests, it is more difficult to compare. Can I ask what distances you had between camera and chart please for the various focal lengths?
Thanks.
Sorry, I didn't take distance measurements! At 600mm and 840mm the chart, which is about 1.5 meters wide, was very far away
Mick Andrews, yes, it did happen to me, as well, I had 2 of these lenses, the first one was not so accurate as my second copy. And my 5dsr manages much, but much better the images, than the Canon 7d mark ii.
I have this one. Very happy with it. I use it on my Canon 80D and Sony A7III camera's, and even on my Panasonic GH5 for video.
My main use is at race tracks and a bit of wildlife.
May I ask which adaptor you would use with Sony A7III? How well the AF-C works?
@@peteryungcp There are almost no adapters that *officially* support AF-C. I use the Viltrox Adapters and they work good. It is not perfect, but we are talking about an adapter. Viltrox has regular updates and there are improvements over time. I have a Viltrox for EF-Nex and one EF-MFT. AF works on the Viltrox, and using the focus distance limiting switch helps, but i would not advise anybody to count on AF-C with an adapted lens.
valcked, how have you found the AF tracking with this lens when the subject is moving towards you? I realize the dual pixel AF on the 80D is better than my 5D markiii AF, but i have a shocking time trying to maintain focus on anything moving towards or away from me. I use a Canon 300mm f4, Canon 100-400mm and a Canon 500mm F4
This is a good review, looking at the actual image specs warts and all.
Great review. All reviews should be like this.. No fuzz. Thanks a lot. 📷🇩🇰
Hi Chris, thanks for the review, I'm about to purchase the Tamron 150-600 G2. I have a canon 7D Mark II.
Great review, thank you for trying out the teleconverter too, I’m interested in getting the 1.4x for my Tamron 100-400, I reckon it should perform ok
i bought this cheaply and i love it, you accept its limitations just for the sheer fun, with processing and tap in and focal 2 it does the job well easily justifying not using the 500 or 600 fixed nikons adapted to canon , which would often not be an option due to portability, best to try to stay a bit under 600, 500 was very good considering
Thank you very much for the excellent level of the test.
Taking into account the different performances in different cameras used in the test:
Has been used the micro-focus adjustment with the TAP-in Console for each of them, and especially with the APSC Canon camera?
Regards.
Chris I have the tamron g2 150-600 , the problem I am facing is with the Nikon z mount Z7.2. I had to purchase a Nikon 2x s converter for my Nikon z 70_200 mm lens. So a connection to the Z mount for the Tamron f mount is not going to be usable, with the Nikon to Tamron range. That's the technology information for mount and lens ....so here's the question ❓❓❓⁉️. Because the sensor is mirrorless ....on mirror less cameras , obviously by the cameras naming . To add a tamron lens I would need two adapters on the camera z mount if I wanted to use a 2x s converter. One Nikon to f mount and a f mount converter.Is it possible to use an extension tude on the end of the Nikon Z two-times converter to create space to mount any lens f mount Tamron zoom. Given the sensor is mirror less and produces the image directly to the viewer screen ....so I would be using the two times Nikon converter with an extension tude that would allow an f lens on the camera to be compensated by way of allowing a safe space for the f mount lens not to damage the Nikon converter .. making it possible to make f lens usable with the Nikon version of 2 times converter. Would that type of tude or extension work . Or is it yet more money 💰?.Phew I need to rest my typing finger now? I hope I made the question clear .
Happy new year Christopher and family. Thank you for all of your videos in 2018.
You are an angel for these! THANK YOU ❤️🙌🏽
It's a very interesting video, but my question is :D if you were buying a telephoto lens and had a choice between the sigma 150-600 C and the tamron 150-600G2, which would be the right choice? I hear nothing but praise for the sigma regarding image quality.... but I like the way the tamron looks, system RP + 40D Later R6
Hi Chris, thanks a lot for this profound review! How does this lens converter combination compare to the Canon EF 5.6/400mm L with the Canon EF 1.4x Extender Mk. III? Best wishes, Ralf
The Sigma C, that you also reviewed, seems to be sharper, although it is cheeper.I would go for Sigma.
It only appears less sharper because of the decentered elements.
make a comperision video of sigma vs tamron 150-600mm
Been looking forward to this review. Thanks!
Thank you Chris! and happy New year!
I have this lens. Just sent it to repairs because of weird ghosting, or what ever you might call it, as your images in some cases where so fuzzy that they where practically no use at all. But you can get good photos that much is true. If my copy of the lens, when it comes back, works fine without that weird fuzziness the lens is good enough for me.
Yes!! Long awaited!
Oh wow that shot of the tiger is amazing
Nice review. Could you possibly make a video on your testing setup? Particularly the image quality test. For example the distance to subject and lighting conditions. Do these tests vary among lens focal length and F stop?
Another fab review Chris.
That jitter with the VC (image stabilisation) is a deal breaker for video guys. :(
Does any video guys own it that can testify the other modes work better than shown here?
(I would use it for surfing/panning for video)
For a 600mm lens in this price range it is easily the best you will get.
Interesting IQ results compared to its direct Sigma competitor. On your tests the Tamron is sharper on high resolution full-frame, but the Sigma is sharper on high res APS-C.
Hello Chris, Thanks for the review. Image quality wise, which is better this or the Sigma 150-600 C.Thanks....
I assume your sharpness/contrast test image is some sort of print out. I'm just curious how large it is and what your set up is to get those shots. You must need to move the camera a lot for various focal lengths (especially for this lens). Do you have any behind the scenes photos?
0:42 Little mistake here, G2 means "2nd generation", Tamron SP lenses are aimed at professional uses
G2 lenses are aimed at professional use, too.
I have spoken with Tamron sales in Hong Kong and they said only prime lens would most likely use "SP" logo in future. G2 are aimed at professional use and they are all design in similar style, "Golden metal circle"near the mount. You can compared with the new version of 70-300 Di VC USD it's not marked as "G2" and design in the old style.
@@peteryungcp That's interesting, I didn't know that, thanks for your answser !
@@christopherfrost My bad, I didn't know that, I learned something new today.
thanks for your answer and have a nice day !
Hi Christopher, Unlikely you will see this 4 years on but on the off chance you do, in your opinion is it worth upgrading from the Sigma "C" to this lens ? I will using it on a Canon R and R3
This looks seriously impressive. Another great review as always
How's the sharpness compared to your sigma 150-600?
Im also interested in that too.....
@@actie-reactie I third that too!
@TheBorgCollective
No he doesnt "seven of nine" 😉😁......he only states that the build quality is good and the VC is out of this world.... he is not impressed with the image quality.....but doesnt mention anywhere how the tam holds up to the sigma as it goes for iq....
The sigma C is softer than this tamron G2.
@@Zorolath
Thanks for the info pgn....do you know maybe how the tam holds up to the sigma-s...... are you dutch?
Hi Chris. Planning to buy one. Which would you recommend in terms of image quality, this one or the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary? Thanks.
Hello Chris, thanks for your excellent work, it helps us a lot to decide where to invest our money. I want to ask you if you had to choose between the Tamron and the Sigma for a Canon EOS R ..... which would be your choice? Thank you very much.
Would you recommend this lens or the Sigma 150-600 DG OS HSM 'C' lens?
Neil Sheriff
Thanks for reviewing this lens Christopher. I enjoy your reviews because they follow a similar format and are to the point, with little waffle. Could you please find the time to review the new Sigma 60-600 sports lens? In my opinion this new lens will be a best seller because of the image quality and the massive focal range, along with the just about affordable price for an enthusiast photographer.
I will at some point
@@christopherfrost Thanks Christopher, I will look forward to the review when it happens, I can imagine this occupies quite a bit of your spare time so don't feel pressured to do the review quickly.
💥 All of your work here is greatly appreciated. In summary, do not use a 1.4 teleconverter with this lens. Bummer.
What's the point of using a 1.4x teleconverter on a full-frame? Isn't it the same as APS-C w/o a converter?
Hi Christopher. Just purchased one of the Tamron bad boy 150-600 G2 lenses. Its going on my Canon D90. So far so good. I know im getting used to it, but looked at the quality of the pics as well as the ISO settings and speed. I was just out test shooting, and i dont think the lens is as sharp as it should be. Any comments or thoughts as to setup, what am i missing etc? Can you tell me what the 'minor' adjustments on the canon were that you talked about please?
I understand that the 90 D calls for slightly higher shutter speeds. Hope that helps.
I used an mc-11 adapter and put it on my a7r ii but if it's not perfectly bright sunlight hitting my subject the camera can't find the subject. I'm pretty sure it's all the cameras fault.
Good review........I have this lens after selling the G1 version..........however with the de-centering problem.....and my own results.....I think it's a sub par copy!
thank Christopher for your always info-packed reviews. could you please ask Tamron for the TAMRON TAP-in Console allowing you micro adjust the 150-600 lens, so we could see if sharpness improved. Thank again.
If focussed the lens manually in these tests, so, no, there won't be a difference
Hi Chris, it's not relevant to the subject much, but I want to know whether Canon Extender version i vs Version iii has a much difference based on image quality wise. Or any other this that I need to concern with...
Can you review Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6E lens?
I found some difficulty to get focus in the cloudy jungle, Compare to 200-500 f5.6 Nikon
Brilliant Chris, can't thank you enough. I was looking for a cheaper alternative from the expansive 100-400mm Sony for my A7Rii. Considering now the Sony A version with Sony LA-EA3. Can I please check what adapter you're using to mount it on your Sony? Thanks
I used the Sigma MC-11, although on my a7R II the AF was a bit slow, if memory serves - I think the camera doesn't like working with a lens and adaptor when the aperture isn't very bright
Thanks mate, I'll give a try of the Sony A + LA-EA3 hoping for the best. God bless!
Hi! This lense will work with sony A7C?????? Thanks for your help!
Would this be compatible with a Canon T7 Rebel? I am just learning about these telephoto lenses and want to make sure it will work properly.
Hey Chris , for first ,have very nice New Year, ok!!! So you dont made a video about best bargain to photography 2018 like you did once , right??? Thank you for your videos, i very like it.
Maybe when a few more new bargain lenses have come out :-)
Always enjoy your reviews, in regards to the described focus "centering issue" at 600mm, what's the option for calibrating / correcting this issue; would you need to send the lens back to the manufacturer?
Probably need to send it back to get it adjusted. AFMA using the camera body or AF calibration using the usb console only adjust front and back focus issues.
From what i understand, decentered lenses are caused by the elements not aligned. Probably will need to get it replaced
the only thing you can adjust yourself is front and back focus - when the lens focuses further or closer than what the camera tells it to - if you use MF it's completely irrelevant, and I'd be surprised if Chris used AF for the chart test shots
It's not worth worrying about, in practice you'd never notice it with a lens like this. It could also just be vr doing its thing.
Hi Chris!
Is it a good option to astrophotography? Or better forgive?
I was expecting to see if there is an increase in sharpness at the center at 600mm for smaller apertures... but you unexpectedly omitted it.
From f/6.3 to f/8 there is a small increase in sharpness :-)
Hi Chris, anything about focus breathing?
Yeah, I wanna know if this is an issues as well.
There was a little but not much
Hi! Great review! Which adapter did you use to mount the lens on your A7rii? How did the autofocus work on that camera?
The Sigma MC-11 and it wasn't bad
Christopher there is an inconsistency. You show the IQ is "pretty sharp in the middle" on the 20MP full frame at 5:38 but then magically "image quality is very good in the middle" on the 42MP sensor at 7:41. The only variable here is changing the sensor, thus it is not consistent to have a lesser IQ at the pixel level on the lower resolution sensor, unless something else is being varied unintentionally.
I'm happy to upgrade my 5:38 assessment to 'very good' :-)
@@christopherfrost LOL
8:45 Looks like you may have had a bad copy. I would think the corners should be nearly equally sharp/unsharp, but not that much of a change. That's a bit concerning to think this may have been a bad copy or a decentered lens (unless there was any errors in testing).
HI Christopher , I was able to get the Canon EOS 600D Body , still have the Kit Lens from my old 400D , what I need is one Lens for Outdoor on a Model Plane and heli Field to make Videos, I do now have to much money , but what would you recommend ?
I'm not sure what you'rea asking me exactly
@@christopherfrost I need one for outside when I go with a friend to a Model Flying field and Film the Heli´s and Airplanes when they are in the Air
hi, is tamron 150-600mm G2 lens compatible with canon 250d camera?
Nice review! How would you compare the G2 with the Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary lens?
I found the Sigma very slightly sharper, but the Tamron has better image stabilization
hi i have a canon 80D with a tamron 18-400 can i fit a 1x4 tamron converter to this set up thanks bill
Please review Nikon 200-500mm lens with APS-C camera Nikon D7500 and teleconver 1.4x
How does this lense work on a Canon EOS200D camera? Any experiences?
could you do a review of the Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary?
he has already done one!, check his sigma lenses playlist :D
Is it me - or did understand this incorrectly, it seems the lens is actually performing its best on the Sony as compared to a Canon body even though it is a Canon mount?
The Sony A7Rii is a vastly superior camera to the tired old Canon 6D, in terms of specs. The A7Rii sensor produces far more resolution and detail. If you're talking about the Canon M3, this is an APS-C camera and isn't using the full resolution of the full frame lens.
You can consider that at around 683 AF Points on the A7III its going to improve the performance of most lenses. But I always got the impression that Sigma performance was limited in Canons firmware. On Sony it seems unlocked and much faster. Even the focus distance limiter and AF speed are noticeably more functional.
@@AcidTripwire As you said, "Canon M3, this is an APS-C camera and isn't using the full resolution of the full frame lens". I think the more precises comment should be the pixel density issues. APS-C is smaller size sensor but put in 2.4M pixel on it. We should expect it can't perform as well as 6D which is less pixel results lower pixel density, that's why performs better in this test and produce less CR. I would expect this lens would perform better on Canon 7D Mark II because it has less pixel then M3 on the same size APS-C sensor.
@@peteryungcp Agreed! All those pixels are packed into a small cutout of the entire glass which cannot produce nearly enough detail and resolution to match the sensor. This highlights imperfections in the glass but thankfully it also makes vignetting a non-issue as a trade off. I don't think manufacturers should keep packing high resolution into APS-C cameras, I would rather have better image quality and high ISO performance. But of course more megapixels means more sales
You may be right I have seen Sigma lenses perform better using live-view focus (in sharpness) no matter how you adjust the micro adjustments on a Canon camera I have. It does a reasonable job with live-view and a noticeably less nice sharp focus job using the phase detect even after micro adjustments - Canon lenses have had no such problems -in my experience. But at least it works.
Can we use sigma 150-600 contemporary with canon m50 mark ii ?
The CA could be an indirect result of the decentering.
Heard two cases of reviewers receiving decentered lenses at this point. Hope it's a coincidence.
I'm torn between this lens and the 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC HLD and the AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 SP Di VC USD XLD.
Any advice?
They're very different lenses, so it depends on if you want a superzoom lens that also gives you wide angles (then the 18-400), or just telephoto.
Still, this doesn't convince me to upgrade my current version of Tamron 150-600mm.
Michael Liang Hey i am getting the first version from a friend. What is you honest opinion on the G1 version. I got mixed reviews from people. some say it’s a soft lens and autofocus is sluggish ?
I have the G2, my friend has the G1. The G2 might be slightly sharper wide open, but in reality the performance is close. The main advantage is the better construction, but if I were you I wouldn't upgrade if you're happy with the G1.
I love your music background
Great review, really useful, since I have both the 150-600 G2 and the 1.4 TC. The only thing I don't find logical is the difference in sharpness between ff and crop sensor. Optically thinking there is no difference between the two, even the crop sensor may have sharper edges because the whole lens surface is not needed to achieve the image but only the centre. My opinion is the difference in your test may be due to uncalibrated body/lens combo but not to the sensor surface.
How's the focus breathing? The one reason I don't leave Canon lenses is because pretty much everything else really cheats you out of distance on the long end of the zoom.
..Joe
There wasn't much focus breathing really
Can this lens be ggod for canon 850d body? Thanks in advance!
Did you use the adapted a mount or canon on the sony?
Question, this one or the sigma 150-600?
please review the sony 200-600mm lens
Sigma 150 600 c has better image quality?
is the focus deliberately kept slower in order to keep focus accuracy, or is it because at 600mm the focus lens needs to displace itself over a longer distance?
You're partly right! The focus is slower in general because as you said, it has to be in order to be accurate. Canon USM lenses can fling themselves into focus at silly speeds because they are intimately familiar with the focusing algorithms of the native camera. Sigma doesn't have that luxury. At the longer focal lengths, it isn't slowed down because the focusing element physically moves further, it is purposely slowed electronically, because there is much less depth of field and so again it must slow down more to preserve accuracy and not overshoot the mark. Canon lenses do the same. The element is still covering the same distance.
Hi Chris! Thank you for your videos. Any thoughts or plans on covering the Viltrox EF-EOS M2 Auto Focus Lens Mount Adapter Ring 0.71X Focal Lenth Multiplier please?
Maybe one day :-)
How was it at 500mm? FWIW my Sigma contemporary lens is soft when shooting a full moon at 600 but pretty good at 500mm.
Take a look at my tests at 450mm and you'll get a good idea :-)
In camera body telephoto micro adjustment is needed.
The image stabilization was pretty disappointing for me. It only works fine on stationary objects up to 1/320s at 600mm. It also adds an odd blur streak/haloing to some images. I'm also put off by the fact that the lens doesn't automatically disable panning detection and there's viewfinder lag. Sometimes I see a bird flying too fast and don't have the time to switch the IS options and end up with a blurry shot despite a high shutter speed.
Of course it only works on stationary objects at lower shutter speed!!!
@@slooob23 yes but some lenses fare much better and can be handheld up to 1/100s at 600mm
@@anunheardtruth3071 and they probably cost $10,000
@@slooob23 nope, Sigma 150-600.
@@anunheardtruth3071 there is no meaningful difference between the tamron and the sigma. Complaints about either lens usually come from people that don't know how to shoot properly or know how to calibrate a lens.
Christopher, pls do Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 whenever you have chance. Thank you
One day, yes :-)
Can you make a comparison between super telephoto zoom lenses?
Maybe one day (there are too many that keep coming out!)
What would you recommend for canon apsc, tamron 100-400 or sigma 100-400 for image quality and auto focus speed/accuracy.
Thanks.
I've always found that Tamron AF system and VC works better with Canon Bodies.
I suspect the Sony has better chance of nailing focus due to the mirrorless design. Seems like you got a bad copy anyway. In every other test the Tamron is one of the sharpest 600mm.
Hi sir,
I'm Nikon D750 user, I have nikon Af 80-200 D ED lens. Now I want to buy a long telephoto zoom lens. I suggest nikon 200-500mm f5.6 & tamron 150-600 g2 lens.
Please suggest me which lens is best & sharp for my Nikon D750.
I also have been looking for a super tele for my D750. I saw reviews on this lens and shied away from it. The Sigma seemed a better buy. However, I think I'm going to sell my first born for a used Nikon 600. I have a an old Sigma 50-500 that I have used three times at 500 mm. First time was photographing a heron with the image tack sharp. The second time was an image of an elephant seal coming out of the ocean. I cropped the image and it was still sharp. The third time was yesterday trying to photograph a hummingbird. It came out a bit soft but I don't know if it was me, the bird moving or a combination of the two. 500 mm does not reach a bird 30 feet away unless using a blind. Good luck.