INJURIES in the ATP TOUR
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Excerpt from Served with Andy Roddick Episode 16 - released on 5.7.24.
Andy and Jon Wertheim talk about the injuries during the Madrid Open and talk about how the ATP & WTA Tour schedule might be a factor.
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The courts all being mid/slow paced, means long grinding matches. Vary the court speeds, encourage players to win points not grind. It will be massively difficult for players to win lots of tournaments because injuries will be a factor
Maybe all the grueling grinding defensive points that result from slowing down playing conditions ... yeah maybe that wasn't such a good idea
The breakdown on the training blocks was very informative. As important as it is, it's not discussed in detail like this very often.
Thanks for this podcast. It has gotten me interested again in pro tennis post-Fedal.
Allowing sufficient time in the schedule for players to recover and build at home as Andy said is the answer. There should also be a change as to how many tournaments are considered mandatory for year end bonuses. Novak didn't get one in 2023 (he doesn't need it because he's insanely rich already). All players are unique physically which their teams know better than anyone how to manage. Trying to make all court speeds the same, not playing at altitude, etc is impossible. We live in a world with varied conditions (which can change by the hour) and don't live in a petri dish. Tennis is the only sport that has 2 weeks off a year. This is insane.
The stats about hip injuries make sense. It’s probably due to the way you have to turn your body to accelerate the racket before it hits the ball. It would be very helpful if you’d ask your next guest if there is a way to put less stress on the hip without sacrificing power. Also, it would be an interesting topic on what players say to each other when they shake hands at the end of a match. Love your podcast.
I think we should look at players who managed stay injury free for a long period of time and copy their techniques.
In that regard, Novak immediately comes to mind.
I think the most impact on the hips players get is in the long rallies, when they have to turn direction very quickly from one side to the other. Probably hard court is the worst surface with the most impact for this, as sliding is not that natural as on clay.
@@amsd1231 This makes no sense. What works for one person does not work for everyone.
About five years ago Nick Kyrgios twisted his hip at Wimbledon because he was practising on wet grass. He went down quite badly. Grass is dangerous if it's not dry enough. He took that into the USO and lost in the first round but was booed off the court. John McEnroe told him to leave the sport. Stupid thing to say to a genuinely injured player - they're more careful now in accepting injury as a reason for not playing at the top of their game. Players should not feel as if they have to play every tournament.
A-Rod💎"Your Wall in that hotel room looks like a Louis Vuitton Bag, that looks expensive"😂
I'm so confused on how this channel works. The description says this is an excerpt from the 5.7.24 release, but the video released on that day is not this. Where is the full version of this?
Tennis and Metallica in one video - perfect!
The solution to all these injuries should be pretty simple: make the courts faster again! Shorter points, less long rallies, shorter matches. Problem solved! Courts are WAY too slow now, need to get more tourneys with speed index over 30. Not to mention it allows players to win & lose on their natural strengths. Dont subject everyone to the SAME court speed every 𝗱𝗮𝗺𝗻 tournament! Let the fast-twitch huge strikers / servers get their chance to shine. The Rafa / slow court era is over! Bring back the fast stuff! 🎾 🔥☄️
I like this , bring bacck. Serve / Volley. not that I have any info on Court speed but sounds reasonable.
At some point the rubber meets the road on players here. Many have adopted stroke techniques and movement that clearly plays a role. Tennis has always been hard at high level on shoulders, backs, knees, and ankles.
Open stances and sliding on all surfaces have probably led to a lot of the biomechanical issues with hips. Add on to that the slower court speeds and polyester strings creating longer and harder points and we've created a style of play that didn't exist 30 yrs ago.
Maybe the players get more involved in surface speeds and restrict polyester/Kevlar strings to speed up or shorten the game a bit. Alternately, shorten the matches with best of 2 sets and a tiebreak (like doubles) in the early rounds of regular events
Open stance forehands are way easier on hips
@@goggleboy2464 nonsense. Think about the torque on the pelvis accelerating a raquets head open vs straight line movement or sliding with an abducted hip
We're seeing injuries normally traditionally associated with field sports and hockey of the groin/hip
@@droliver far more stress on the joint when hitting neutral or closed stance, you are literally slamming your body into the joint. Not the case with open it's much more free and is a bigger shoulder rotation. Novak almost always open. Fed only neutral when approaching which is actually easier on the joint because the movement is more dynamic with a lifting motion. They played more than anybody with no hip issues
I read somewhere that Torben Ulrich would sometimes practice in ultra slow-motion. For example, he could spend ten minutes going through a single forehand shot. Not sure if it is true.
Hey,
i live in Denmark and I played a lot of tennis in my youth. Denmark is not a tennis country. Denmark has grown lately due to Holger Rune, not Wozniaki who is more polish I'd say.
Hope tennis gets better here and they build more indoor courts so the kids can play more during the winter.
That point at 15:28. Without sounding a cynic but that is the real reason imho and it's the players that are suffering for it...
I'm thinking Iga should start cutting back - near every tournament She's in semis or better , and no doubt there is lots of pressure on from tournaments.....
this is different than the ( fact ) some players are just injury prone, bodies not suitable for the conditions - I give Ya. NFL. Jets former QB. Chad Pennington. Niners. QB. J. Garroppolo. baseball - talent wise super Stars M. Mantle & S. Koufax.
NBA. center b. Walton. on and on. right now, WTA player K. Muchova is my fave to watch, but She's near always injured, had wrist surgery a couple months ago I think. and it is NOT desire, strong desire might be a drawback.
back to back matches should not happen. two at the same day like never. reduce the number of events and thats it.
bottom line, of course is money. for everyone including players.
Andy Roddick and JJ Reddick have weirdly similar dispositions.
This is what happens when in tennis everyone smashes balls from the back and almost every point is a long rally.
There’s a few comments of this tenor but many of the players they talk about having chronic issues (hips especially) are retired, and played on faster courts when long, defensive rallies were very rare. I personally think, listening to this, that the issue is with how the tour is scheduled, and players needing more actual time off at home to do foundational training, lifting and etc, to attempt to prevent injury.
A pickleball approach, smaller racquet heads, keep the ball inside the lines
If you look at Alcaraz playing style it is obvious that he is going to have injuries and a shorter career. Unfortunately it was pretty obvious with Thiem as well. Nadal was one of the few that was able to over come having a grueling playing style. The body can only take so much.
Madrid was much, much too cold when the tournament was played. Playing tennis in the cold is NEVER a good idea because it promotes injuries. Also, why is a tournament at altitude being played before the French Open which is played at near sea level? Ridiculous.
Visors and ankle socks WTF!
"She's much more quintessentially Danish". Do Danish people always complain then? 😂
So basically i need to start playing more on clay to save my hips!
Why aren't the women suffering from hip injuries?
It feels like common sense longer majors are going to be worse for players in terms of injuries or just overall health. Other terms that come to mind are gaslighting or money grab by the industry.
Carlos too stiff of a racket. Sinner too many closed stance groundstrokes