There's a thing about hot hatches for me that I love...the pleasure you get from driving them. Driving a Porsche or a Ferrari is a majestic experience...but if you push too hard you'll be affraid to wreck it. That doesn't happen in cars like that Leon Cupra. It's very easy to find the limit on those cars and the limit is enough for us to enjoy with no concern of taking a corner too hard and crash like we would in any supercar. So...having said that, If had all the money in the world I would have to have an hot hatch in my garage in order to have a car I could take to the limits without being affraid of killing myself. :D Nice review Guido. Take care!
Awesome review Guido! That intro was awesome and the editing is great! It's cool to watch you drive the B roads and heel-toe. Makes me want to be a better driver! It's too bad they don't sell them here in the states, I think the Golf R is way overpriced here so if they sold the Seat I'm sure it would do really well. I like the looks, it almost looks like an Audi to me. Keep up the great work buddy!
subaruwrxfan Thanks Matt ! You would love this car for sure., so exciting to drive with this much power to the front wheels haha :) Waiting for your Buick review now. enjoy the press cars !
subaruwrxfan We have way better car prices here than say the UK. The Golf R is pricey for a Golf, but cheaper than an S3.....and of course it has the hatch. Will be interesting to see what the Ford Focus RS price in Europe and here..... who says that Subie has no competition without the demise of the Evo.
Great review my friend and thanks for reading out my comment! Like I said I have both a Porsche C4S and a Seat Leon Cupra 280. The SEAT does everything so well for a lot less money and like you said it hardly sacrifices the quality too. Combine the fact that its extremely fun, fast and practical, it is a perfect companion car to the Porsche. My wife is currently using it as a family car for our new born baby...fits a pram and luggage very easily and is comfortable too. For me, when I dont have passengers, its a perfect fun car to go from A to B where in some cases you wouldn't take the Porsche. Maybe you can review the Cupra ST? :)
Great review of the Leon Cupra 280. I have owned 2 GTI's, both have been great fun. The Fiesta ST looks like a riot for the money. Will admit though, the drive wheels handling all the power is a recipe for understeer even if the torque steer is controlled.
great review Guido. i've owned one for a month so far. I didn't go for the Performance Pack as it only upgraded the brakes (which are more than good enough already) and lighter wheels (which weren't the ones used for the 'Ring lap time anyway) The PSS2 tyre's are optional on the PP but they would be a better choice over the RE050's. sure there's the RS275 Trophy but for me it looked boring, lacked practicality and would attract too much attention from the wrong type of driver.
altern8ive Thanks ! Really glad to get approval from an actual owner. I love the sleeper character of this car. I just chased a BMW i8 on the autobahn with ease and suprised a guy in an A45 AMG. The engine is just phenonenal. Love this car and the way it drives. Enjoy yours !
Bit of a late comment i know, but I've pretty much watched every single review that there is about the Cupra... in particular the new 290. It is definitely the one for me as it ultimately defines a hot-hatch: Performance (so impressed with the low-end torque over a broad rev range) combined with practicality that makes it enjoyable and can put a smile on your face on a daily basis. And YES, an absolute must in manual! By the way the leather on the steering wheel and gearknob felt really premium when I went to see it. Cheers from Sweden :D
+TheGetawayer I had indeed, and I watched it again just to remind myself :P Going for my test drive today :) Do you know the mechanics of the exhaust system by any chance? does it have some sort of ALS or what? Do the crackles only come with the DSG and if so why? And last but not least, how is torque steer !!!??? (gotta ask for a FWD with that much HP) has the VAQ e-diff solved it?
Even early Seat Leon's were a blast, i remember the 4wd tdi/1.8t versions they were amongst the fastest on the road back then. and now, using the same ingrediënts as vw and audi, they make a better car than the allmighty golf gti.. gotta love those amusing germans/spanish!
Great review as always. Love watching these over a coffee. I've only ever driven a Golf GTD and frankly that surpassed my expectations - I was expecting it to be dull as dish water as its described by many being from VW but it was very competent, sure it wasnt a sharp tool but I could put the thing where I wanted and it didn't feel disconnected. I suspect the GTi, R and the Seat Leon Cupra are all excellent. Would gladly have one.
***** Thanks Michael ! Yes they are indeed 19 inch and snow tires, haha...Not too uncomfortable actually and you can drive up to 240 km'h with them. I did review a GTD way back in 2010 I belive, loved that car. Maybe I can review the new Golf GTI and R too if Volkswagen Deutschland gives me the chance. The SEAT Leon Cupra sure is a fantastic hot hatch. I enjoyed it alot :) Greetings, Guido
As a BMW driver I'm not used to moving out of peoples way...but it looks like I'll have to when I see this car coming. I'm really impressed with it and if I was in the market for a hot hatch then I would seriously consider one over a Golf.
I admire his honesty you would think he would stick up for the Audi and vw group brilliant he has convinced me to purchase this car over the other two mentioned
+Daniel Legg Thanks Daniel ! No, I try not to stick up to anybody and I enjoyed the Cupra the most, honestly :) All the best for your Cupra ownership and many great fun kilometers :)
Tolle Autos, gute Aufnahmen und ein sympathischer Tester. Bei all dem Englisch fände ich Berichte auf Deutsch angenehmer, doch mir ist klar, dass du das volle You-Tube-Potential nutzen willst. Fahre selber den Cupra 280, allerdings mit DSG und freue mich über so einen positiven Bericht. All deine anderen Videos habe ich mir auch gleich angesehen. Mach weiter so, echt super.
1988Zyankali Vielen Dank ! Feedback von tatsächlichen Fahrern freut mich immer besonders :) Das Deutsche überlasse ich den Kollegen z.B. von Ausfahrt.tv die den Cupra glaube ich auch kurz gefilmt haben. DSG ist bekanntermaßen eine feine Sache, ich selber fahre einfach sehr gerne Handschalter und lass mir deshalb wenn möglich auch immer solche als Testwagen geben. Grüsse
Thanks for the great review, how well insulated from tyre and road noise is the cupra compared to a gti? I'm deciding between the 2 and I travel a lot for work. I imagine this would be part of the cost cutting?
How would you rate this against BMW M135i? I am now thinking this as new vs 20k driven M135i. And of course I will daily it. (likely also buy LSD for BMW if I get that)
+MrRaitzi the only certain thing is thats cupra is more efficient in curving, and also faster on track than the M135i despite the lower numbers which they dont usually tell the story. last but not least M135i more expensive than the cupra. but if you are a BMW fan its still a great car of course anyway
Great review. Do like reviews more focus on the day to day experience rather than a reviewer thrashing it on a track, which 95% of us don't do daily. I'm always impressed with VAG. They basically turned the same car, same chassis and same engine into multiple variants with different badges to target different markets. seat/skoda the cheap variant, vw average and audi upperclass. Problem with this car will always be the badge, as like the R and S3, they have great tuning potential as well. The other being a RS competitor, for a bare basic hot-hatch, the RS275 is a much better car. Owned a RS250 for 18 months, and in terms of pure joy, nothing beats it not even the R or S3.
Hi Guido, ich gebe dir absolut Recht. Der Wagen ist wirklich toll. Ich konnte bereits vor einigen Tagen den Leon Cupra 280 ST fahren. Unfassbar wie handlich der für ein Kombi ist. Kann ich dir nur empfehlen. Ich habe ja einen 6er GTI mit 300PS und suche einen Nachfolger mit mehr Platz. Der Cupra ST steht da derzeit auf Platz 1. Der Octavia RS ist aber auch wirklich super. Wenn man sich bedenkt, was z.B. Siemoneit nur mit Stufe 1 Software aus dem Wagen rausholt (370PS/500NM), einhergehend mit einer Vmax von 290Km/h, dann ist das wirklich ein unfassbar gutes Angebot. Der Gen3 888 ist wirklich ein herausragender Motor, egal ob GTI, Octavia RS, Cupra, R, S3. Natürlich ist das Potential beim Cupra 280, R und S3 deutlich höher, da ein anderer IHI Lader verbaut ist und auch die internen Komponenten verstärkt sind, dazu zählt auch ein größerer LLK, aber dennoch ist auch die kleinere Ausbaustufe schon hervorragend. Danke für das tolle Video (wie immer)!
t3chn0m0 Das höre ich gerne ! Danke ! Ich war und bin schwer beeindruckt vom Cupra und würde auch den kleinen Ibiza gerne nochmal ausprobieren. Cupra ST ist echt ein tolles Angebot. Und selbst komplett Serie habe ich gestern auf der AB locker mit einem A45 mitgehalten...Hat der Oktavia RS Allrad ? Wäre vielleicht auch mal ein Kandidat für einen Test :) Schick mir Bilder vom Cupra wen Du magst, Link zur Facebook-Seite ist in der Videobeschreibuing ;) Grüsse Guido
TheGetawayer Ich habe dir die Bilder via Nachricht auf FB zukommen lassen. Den ST und den Octavia RS solltest du dir wirklich mal angucken. AutomannTV hat den auch bereits getestet und war von dem Fahrzeug auch begeistert. Irgendwann wirst du dir (wie ich hoffentlich auch) den Traum von einem eigenen Porsche erfüllen können, da bin ich mir sicher =). Schade dass die Amis nicht in den Genuss vom Cupra oder Octavia RS kommen können. Denen ist ja selbst der RS3 vergönnt. LG, Mo
myjet4life Thanks ! Maybe somebody at Seat will hear you. Their german ceo is a very passionate and great man with the right vision to make them successful I think, SEAT Listen and go to the states :)
This segment is becoming really hot. In addition to the Cupra, which we don't get in Canada, there's the Golf R, and now the Ford Focus RS and now you guys in Europe also get small wagon versions of these cars. e.g. Golf R wagon and Cupra ST wagon. Shame but Audi doesn't bring any of their hot wagons anymore and they only bring the automatics. The Seat is not available here, and VW will not be bringing the R wagon. I'm without a replacement for my aging A4 wagon!!!! Oh nice video Guido!
Thanks for the video. Always great to see what other people think of this car. I think you missed the opportunity to mention the importance of Seat fitting a mechanical LSD in this model, a fairly rare thing and pretty critical to the car's cornering performance. I personally admire any company who installs one on their sport modesl (Renault Clio/Megane Cup for example). You also could and should provide your impressions on a car's steering feel. How does it compare to, say, Audi's lifeless steering? Do you get any sense of what is happening at the contact patches from the steering wheel? Or do you have to guess what is going on? How did the "Progressive Steering" feel? Does it feel natural when going tighter into a turn, or does the increased speed towards lock, feel odd because it's not a linear progression? (I like fast steering in a car but have wondered what this system feels like). Also how is the steering weight? Heavy? Light? Does the weight build up in the corners when you lean on it? l You could also comment on the suspension's damping characteristics. Is it a well damped chassis? Is it supple? Or is it just stiff, for that sporty feel, but will not survive 10 minutes on a rough Britsh b-road? Is there a degree of comfort still or is it a teenager's idea of what a fast suspension is supposed to be (rock hard, no travel, super low)? You mentioned the Brembos, how is the pedal feel? Are they grabby? Or do they have a progressive feel in their application? Did you experience any fade on your aggressive street driving? In regards to the pedals, how is their placement for heel toe? Would appreciate yout thoughts on these things. And perhaps you might consider talking about the above mentioned aspects when reviewing future cars. Cheers!
Masked Threat Thank you very much for the detailed feedback on the video ! I really appreciate that ! I can tell you that the diff works brilliant in the dry, but there are limits to fwd and they become obvious in the wet where you get wheel spin up into 3rd gear / over 100km'h / 60mph...It's never a real problem though and adds excitement, because you manage it yourself and never really lose the car. That's why I said wheelspin, before understeer...The steering felt great to me. Lighter in Comfort-Mode, but I had it in the Cupra setting all the time. I should have covered that abit more indebth just like other things, but since I do these in my second language it would take me longer and I don't want to make 25 minute reviews. The viewer comments left out, I will take more time for these things next time, I promise. The chassis is well damped at any speeds for me. In the wet and on the autobahn I prefered the softer comfort setting, apart from that Cupra was useable at any time for me. The break are great, good feel, but abit too grippy at low speeds for my taste. Still great...Pedals for heel and toe are easy for me, but like I said in the S3 review ( that car has the exact same pedals ), abit of a problem for people with smaller feet. You can watch that S3 review if you haven't already...I hope that answers your questions. Maybe you should test drive a Leon Cupra and give me your own impressions now ? :) Greetings from germany, Guido / TheGetawayer
TheGetawayer Hi Guido, thanks for your reply! I'm impressed that you give the review in English. Not easy to do when it's not your first language. I also understand that going into such detail might make your review longer, but I don't think it would too much. Its a few extra words thrown in about subjects you're already touching on. Its more about rephrasing things to cover those points specifically, the word count won't grow that much, I imagine. Just need to make a note to talk about it in your script. This car is on my short list for a new family car under 35k€. Others are the Focus ST Kombi, Skoda Octavia RS Kombi and completely left field choice, Skoda Yeti 1.8TSI AWD. My Current car is a Mini Cooper S Clubman and previous car was a heavily modified Subaru WRX Wagon. I will definitely go for a test drive and add my thoughts here once I do. Cheers, Arnie
Masked Threat I will try to get the Octavia RS for a test. Looks like a very interesting car. I will keep your feedback in mind and give more details in the next review !
TheGetawayer That would be great, especially if its the Kombi model. Maybe get the Focus ST Kombi as well. Would be interesting to compare those two. As I've just discovered your channel, I look forward to watching your other reviews.
Excellent review as always Guido! As a manual MK6 GTI owner, I believe a hot hatch is what a gran touring/ sporty coupe should be, but with added practicality such as the extra space, with a higher center of gravity being the only price. Anyways, I have a request to ask of you: I love your Porsche reviews (you may recognize me from all the praise I've given you in the past from your Porsche reviews haha). You instilled a love for Porsches in me, yet I also like having practicality as well. That being said, I am very curious to know if the Cayenne Turbo S is worth consideration for driving dynamics and driving pleasure versus, say a much cheaper Grand Cherokee SRT8 (Yes, I live in the states haha) that is nearly as fast but lacks the steering feel and sharp driving dynamics I crave from a proper Porsche driver's car, such as a Cayman for example. PLEASE do a review on a Cayenne Turbo S!
VQSeries Thanks, I really do appreciate ! I wanted to film the Cherokee SRT8 a while ago, but Jeep 's german pr-department manager behaved so weirdly: He wanted me to test a Lancia to proof myself first. I didn't feel like doing that was right, so I said ' No'...As far as the Cayenne Turbo S goes, I have to tell you that right now Porsche only wants to give me 2 to 3 cars for tests this year. Like last year they didn't tell me this before I tested the Macan and Carrera GTS. They told me I could get cars based on availabilty. So I don't even know at the moment if I will film another Porsche review this year at all ! I know this is crazy given how popular my Porsche reviews are, but that's where I'm standing right now :) Greetings from germany, Guido
Strange indeed you were asked to drive a Lancia just to prove yourself haha! Very unfortunate about the situation on reviewing Porsches, but it is what it is lol... I guess I'll just wait and hope next gen Cayenne Turbo S is just as attractive to me, and that u can get your hands on it! Anyways, keep up the good work in the mean time and thanks for the reply Guido - cheers!
Very nice review!!! Would like to see more of this reviews on RUclips. I love the new Cupra, if you look at the quality you get for the money it's awesome! I've ordered a 280 Cupra 5dr 21st Feb to replace my 2009 VW Golf VI GTI. Hope to get it soon!
thats why they dont bring it to usa...because you guys only care about rwd/awd and WHEN an american decides to go fwd its almost always a civic type-r....and thats a good thing! i completely agree with you guys...stick to rwd/awd cars, and if fwd, well then just buy the best fwd, the v-tec hondas..
Lovely in-car view of the driving. We don't have these kinds of roads in Canada and the speed limit is so low you would probably find yourself slowing down even if your were driving a chariot >_
MrCorgh Thank you :) The limit on these roads is 62mph, which is very nice for sure. When I was in america I couldn't adjust to the speed limits to be honest. Drivng on a highway at 65 or 70 feels painfully slow when you are used to autobahns :)
I can tell after having some fun hatchs to compare apples to apples... RS3, S3, GTI and Leon Cupra, that I love this car, it is so fun and fast, it kept up with a Honda CBR600 between 200-250 kph that I was really surprised on its performance (yah yah not legal speeds in my country, and yes factory speed limit is gone too...), one defect coz maybe my driving style is that it has understeering in high speed corners but it gets the job done (it could be great to have the 4 wheel vectoring from the VWs ), I can tell breaking is powerful but 250-0 it can get a bit harsh and disks will get very hot to a point it might lose breaking power (ceramic or better airflow at disk could really make a difference), I really can go anywhere with out feeling I will run into trouble or to be unsafe, same I do triathlons and cycling, it has enough space to garb your gears (bike, cloths, helmet, wetsuit, suitcase etc... and friends of course) and have a fun weekend! Said so, its cheap (but it has all the nice gadgets of my RS3 - sat, BT, good, sound, nice seats....), stable, fast, and very practical!
Ich habe vor etwa drei Monaten mein bisheriges Alltagsauto, einen Lancia Delta Integrale zum Sommerauto umfunktioniert und als Alltagsauto durch einen Seat Leon Cupra 280 ersetzt. Das, denke ich, sagt schon einiges über diesen Seat aus. Ich kann den neuen Seat Leon Cupra nur jedem wärmstens ans Herz legen, der ein alltagstaugliches Auto braucht, es aber auch abseits der öffentlichen Strassen mal krachen lassen möchte. Vielleicht werde ich nächstes Jahr beim Ford Focus RS schwach, da ich beim Leon doch ab und zu meinen geliebten Allradantrieb vermisse. Bis dahin bleiben wir beide aber ganz sicher ein gutes Team. Gruß Blackthump
Blackthump Toller Kommentar ! Vielen Dank dafür und ich gebe Dir Recht was den Allrad im Nassen speziell angeht. Andererseits wird das fahren dadurch etwas spannender ohne wirklich gefährlich zu sein. Mir hat das schon auch Spaß gemacht, weil ich genrell sehr progressiv fahre. Mal sehen wie der Focus tatsächlich wird und ob Ford Deutschland mir den dann auch mal zum Test stellt :)
Excellent review Guido. I owned a 2007 Leon Cupra back in the day and have fond memories of it. Have you tried the Octavia vRS? I have children so need the extra space.
kiftikhar No, but I would love to ! Have to get in touch with ŠKODA AUTO Deutschland GmbH to get a testcar. Really exciting looking package for the money !
It's a pretty good package. Very popular in the UK. I run a 2012 petrol DSG. It's perfect. There is a new 230 edition due soon which was showcased in Geneva featuring an electronic locking differential. Hopefully my next car (as long as I can steer clear of an E92 M3!!)
Wieder mal ein schönes Video Guido, weiter so :) Ich bin zwar BMW-Fan durch und durch, aber für den Preis eines Golf GTI's fast die Power eines R's zu bekommen ist schon erstaunlich. Wie schaut es denn mit der Traktion aus, untersteuert dieses Fahrzeug häufig, insbesonders im Nassen/Grenzbereich bzw verliert es häufig die Traktion, da die komplette Power nur auf die Vorderachse verteilt wird? Und wie schaut es mit dem Verbrauch aus, denkst du dass die Norm bei normaler Fahrt ansatzweise zu erreichen ist? Über eine Antwort würde ich mich freuen Grüße aus Niedersachsen Lukas
TheLukas12364 Hi Lukas, danke für das tolle Feedback ! Also im Trockenen arbeitet die Differentialsperre hervorragend. Man sollte dennoch progressiv ans Gas gehen, wenn man nicht bereits jenseits des zweiten Gang unterwegs ist. Im Nassen bin ich heute nochmal über 300 km gefahren und kann Dir sagen, dass man da schon vorsichtig sein sollte. Das Auto ist sehr leicht zu beherrschen, nie gefährlich, aber der Motor hat unter heraus so eine Kraft das er selbst im dritten Gang bei über 80 km'h noch die Vorderräder zum Durchdrehen bringen kann. Untersteuern empfinde ich in diesem Auto als sehr minimiert...Der Verbrauch lag bei gut 8,5 Liter mit normaler Fahrweise. Wenn ich richtig geknallt bin wie auf der kleinen Kurvenstrecke oder AB kann es aber auch 13 Liter im Schnitt sein. Ist also wie jeder moderne Downsize-Turbo sehr sparsam bei leichtem Fuss, mit Spaß gefahren tendenziell etwas durstiger als ein Sauger, wobei wir da ja auch schon eine sehr große Maschine bräuchten, um diese Leistung zu erreichen...Hoffe das beantwortet Deine Frage, ich mag den Cupra seh :)
Torrey B Used a lavalier Mic and automatic recording on the camera. It needs more adjustments, I guess manual recording is better. You won't believe how much of a pain editing audio is. I wish pushing a button and being done would be possible one day :)
well..it depends....if you need the extra interior space, than the answer is obvious...but if you are talking mainly about the pure driving pleasure, than i personally would stick with the polo...why? smaller, lighter more nimble car, a bit cheaper to buy and to run, and will be just as much fun, if not even more fun...but again, fun is a subjective thing...
+TheGetawayer Ok, I'm 1,86 m. I hope SEAT presents a Leon Cupra with these sporty seats at the IAA in Frankfurt (there is no SEAT-Dealer in my region with a Leon Cupra with these seats).
prozesswissen Mich schmerzt das auch, hab sogar selber einen 1er, aber nach 3 Absagen frage ich auch nicht mehr. Obwohl der neue i8 mich schon sehr reizt ;)
prozesswissen Ja, das ist BMW aber offenbar egal weil sie sowieso jedes Jahr mehr Autos verkaufen. Da würde meine Meinung vlt nur stören. Keine Ahnung ;)
I've added a short video on the Driver Profile settings. Some of you interested in the Cupra might find it useful: ruclips.net/video/PS7BouPYfng/видео.html
09:59 Honestly, driving at legal speeds in that? It sounds impossible to me. I currently drive an Ibiza Style 1.6 TDI 90 HP and I find it quite hard to drive legal speeds just because it drives 'too' good! I'm upgrading to a Leon FR 1.4 TFSI 150 HP in a couple of months... Legal speeds... Ha Ha Ha :) :) :)
The Golf is stupidly popular in the UK too and I do not understand why. They're overpriced and boring to look at, and boring to drive. The main issue with the Golf is the people that drive them, I've never met anyone that drives a Golf that I do not want to punch in the face because they're so fucking arrogant, claiming the Golf is the best car and nothing is better in anyway. Which is why I love the Seat so much, it looks better than the Golf, drives better than the Golf, and the fact it is based on the Golf but is better than that boring box makes it great.
I don't like the interior, it's cheap and I don't bother it has 50 hp more than the GTI...the torque is the same 350 Nm, both are FWD so in the real world they are equal like dynamics, the GTI is just much more pleasant car to sit and drive it every day....
TheGetawayer A friend of mine was about to get one Cupra like this, we went to the dealer ,but we were really disappointed with the interior, it's the worst from the MQB 4 (A3, Octavia, Golf,Leon). So he decided to get the Golf. Have you tried the GTI PP. I pretty sure it's sounds better, drives the same, it's more solid, better sound insulated, the interior is more stylish, especially with the tartan seats ...it's relative I know, but I prefer this or AWD than 50 hp and Spanish made car.
Robert Smith Let's make a deal: Visit your next Seat dealership and sit in a Cupra. Then come back and tell me if it really is as horrible as your friend told you. My testcar felt super solid and I drove it very hard, many parts are directly from VW or Audi. I really can't complain about the quality. It's far better than japanese cars and about 85 % to the level of the Golf R. Seats are superb too. Check it out yourself, you might really like it :)
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There's a thing about hot hatches for me that I love...the pleasure you get from driving them.
Driving a Porsche or a Ferrari is a majestic experience...but if you push too hard you'll be affraid to wreck it. That doesn't happen in cars like that Leon Cupra. It's very easy to find the limit on those cars and the limit is enough for us to enjoy with no concern of taking a corner too hard and crash like we would in any supercar.
So...having said that, If had all the money in the world I would have to have an hot hatch in my garage in order to have a car I could take to the limits without being affraid of killing myself. :D
Nice review Guido. Take care!
This will be my first proper car
Awesome review Guido! That intro was awesome and the editing is great! It's cool to watch you drive the B roads and heel-toe. Makes me want to be a better driver! It's too bad they don't sell them here in the states, I think the Golf R is way overpriced here so if they sold the Seat I'm sure it would do really well. I like the looks, it almost looks like an Audi to me. Keep up the great work buddy!
subaruwrxfan I like your reviews a lot, to bad you don't get I the states Renault Megane RS, it's the best hot hatch, check the RUclips videos.
subaruwrxfan Thanks Matt ! You would love this car for sure., so exciting to drive with this much power to the front wheels haha :) Waiting for your Buick review now. enjoy the press cars !
subaruwrxfan We have way better car prices here than say the UK. The Golf R is pricey for a Golf, but cheaper than an S3.....and of course it has the hatch. Will be interesting to see what the Ford Focus RS price in Europe and here..... who says that Subie has no competition without the demise of the Evo.
Great review my friend and thanks for reading out my comment!
Like I said I have both a Porsche C4S and a Seat Leon Cupra 280. The SEAT does everything so well for a lot less money and like you said it hardly sacrifices the quality too. Combine the fact that its extremely fun, fast and practical, it is a perfect companion car to the Porsche. My wife is currently using it as a family car for our new born baby...fits a pram and luggage very easily and is comfortable too. For me, when I dont have passengers, its a perfect fun car to go from A to B where in some cases you wouldn't take the Porsche.
Maybe you can review the Cupra ST? :)
fullwerkes Very much appreciated ! Your comment gives the review more credit I think haha :) Greetings from germany, Guido
Great review of the Leon Cupra 280. I have owned 2 GTI's, both have been great fun. The Fiesta ST looks like a riot for the money.
Will admit though, the drive wheels handling all the power is a recipe for understeer even if the torque steer is controlled.
Good sleeper I think. Not all wants flashy look, good job VAG.
Great to see more variety in the reviews lately. Great work Guido!
The best driver focus car videos I've seen, thanks! What's better Golf R or Cupra? Not much difference in the price used.
Great video!One of the best out there on Seat Leon Cupra 280!
Thank you, I truely appreciate it !
great review Guido. i've owned one for a month so far. I didn't go for the Performance Pack as it only upgraded the brakes (which are more than good enough already) and lighter wheels (which weren't the ones used for the 'Ring lap time anyway) The PSS2 tyre's are optional on the PP but they would be a better choice over the RE050's. sure there's the RS275 Trophy but for me it looked boring, lacked practicality and would attract too much attention from the wrong type of driver.
altern8ive Thanks ! Really glad to get approval from an actual owner. I love the sleeper character of this car. I just chased a BMW i8 on the autobahn with ease and suprised a guy in an A45 AMG. The engine is just phenonenal. Love this car and the way it drives. Enjoy yours !
Bit of a late comment i know, but I've pretty much watched every single review that there is about the Cupra... in particular the new 290. It is definitely the one for me as it ultimately defines a hot-hatch: Performance (so impressed with the low-end torque over a broad rev range) combined with practicality that makes it enjoyable and can put a smile on your face on a daily basis. And YES, an absolute must in manual! By the way the leather on the steering wheel and gearknob felt really premium when I went to see it. Cheers from Sweden :D
+vhjioa Did you see my 290 review too ? I adore the Cupra, it's the best hot hatch for me :)
+TheGetawayer I had indeed, and I watched it again just to remind myself :P Going for my test drive today :) Do you know the mechanics of the exhaust system by any chance? does it have some sort of ALS or what? Do the crackles only come with the DSG and if so why? And last but not least, how is torque steer !!!??? (gotta ask for a FWD with that much HP) has the VAQ e-diff solved it?
Even early Seat Leon's were a blast, i remember the 4wd tdi/1.8t versions they were amongst the fastest on the road back then.
and now, using the same ingrediënts as vw and audi, they make a better car than the allmighty golf gti.. gotta love those amusing germans/spanish!
Well Presented. After seeing the video I have just booked a test drive of 280 manual transmission.
Luka Luke Thanks Luka ! Make sure to tell me how you liked it :)
Luka Luke So, how was the experience?
Great review as always. Love watching these over a coffee. I've only ever driven a Golf GTD and frankly that surpassed my expectations - I was expecting it to be dull as dish water as its described by many being from VW but it was very competent, sure it wasnt a sharp tool but I could put the thing where I wanted and it didn't feel disconnected. I suspect the GTi, R and the Seat Leon Cupra are all excellent. Would gladly have one.
And are those 19" wheels?! On a hot hatch.....
***** Thanks Michael ! Yes they are indeed 19 inch and snow tires, haha...Not too uncomfortable actually and you can drive up to 240 km'h with them. I did review a GTD way back in 2010 I belive, loved that car. Maybe I can review the new Golf GTI and R too if Volkswagen Deutschland gives me the chance. The SEAT Leon Cupra sure is a fantastic hot hatch. I enjoyed it alot :) Greetings, Guido
As a BMW driver I'm not used to moving out of peoples way...but it looks like I'll have to when I see this car coming. I'm really impressed with it and if I was in the market for a hot hatch then I would seriously consider one over a Golf.
ian7675 The are indeed very fast cars. I chased a guy in a BMW i8 on the autobahn last nite. No problem to keep up with him :)
I admire his honesty you would think he would stick up for the Audi and vw group brilliant he has convinced me to purchase this car over the other two mentioned
+Daniel Legg Thanks Daniel ! No, I try not to stick up to anybody and I enjoyed the Cupra the most, honestly :) All the best for your Cupra ownership and many great fun kilometers :)
Tolle Autos, gute Aufnahmen und ein sympathischer Tester. Bei all dem Englisch fände ich Berichte auf Deutsch angenehmer, doch mir ist klar, dass du das volle You-Tube-Potential nutzen willst.
Fahre selber den Cupra 280, allerdings mit DSG und freue mich über so einen positiven Bericht. All deine anderen Videos habe ich mir auch gleich angesehen. Mach weiter so, echt super.
1988Zyankali Vielen Dank ! Feedback von tatsächlichen Fahrern freut mich immer besonders :) Das Deutsche überlasse ich den Kollegen z.B. von Ausfahrt.tv die den Cupra glaube ich auch kurz gefilmt haben. DSG ist bekanntermaßen eine feine Sache, ich selber fahre einfach sehr gerne Handschalter und lass mir deshalb wenn möglich auch immer solche als Testwagen geben. Grüsse
Very nice review !
I have this car and i can agree with you, this Cupra is awesome !
how is the condition of your car now? any problems? sry for my bad english
Thanks for the great review, how well insulated from tyre and road noise is the cupra compared to a gti? I'm deciding between the 2 and I travel a lot for work. I imagine this would be part of the cost cutting?
I can't wait for the day I will be in the market for one of these!
How would you rate this against BMW M135i? I am now thinking this as new vs 20k driven M135i. And of course I will daily it. (likely also buy LSD for BMW if I get that)
Bmw is probably even more fun than Seat because of its RWD and it also has more power.
+MrRaitzi the only certain thing is thats cupra is more efficient in curving, and also faster on track than the M135i despite the lower numbers which they dont usually tell the story. last but not least M135i more expensive than the cupra. but if you are a BMW fan its still a great car of course anyway
Great review. Do like reviews more focus on the day to day experience rather than a reviewer thrashing it on a track, which 95% of us don't do daily.
I'm always impressed with VAG. They basically turned the same car, same chassis and same engine into multiple variants with different badges to target different markets. seat/skoda the cheap variant, vw average and audi upperclass.
Problem with this car will always be the badge, as like the R and S3, they have great tuning potential as well. The other being a RS competitor, for a bare basic hot-hatch, the RS275 is a much better car. Owned a RS250 for 18 months, and in terms of pure joy, nothing beats it not even the R or S3.
Hi Guido, ich gebe dir absolut Recht. Der Wagen ist wirklich toll. Ich konnte bereits vor einigen Tagen den Leon Cupra 280 ST fahren. Unfassbar wie handlich der für ein Kombi ist. Kann ich dir nur empfehlen. Ich habe ja einen 6er GTI mit 300PS und suche einen Nachfolger mit mehr Platz. Der Cupra ST steht da derzeit auf Platz 1. Der Octavia RS ist aber auch wirklich super.
Wenn man sich bedenkt, was z.B. Siemoneit nur mit Stufe 1 Software aus dem Wagen rausholt (370PS/500NM), einhergehend mit einer Vmax von 290Km/h, dann ist das wirklich ein unfassbar gutes Angebot. Der Gen3 888 ist wirklich ein herausragender Motor, egal ob GTI, Octavia RS, Cupra, R, S3.
Natürlich ist das Potential beim Cupra 280, R und S3 deutlich höher, da ein anderer IHI Lader verbaut ist und auch die internen Komponenten verstärkt sind, dazu zählt auch ein größerer LLK, aber dennoch ist auch die kleinere Ausbaustufe schon hervorragend.
Danke für das tolle Video (wie immer)!
t3chn0m0 Das höre ich gerne ! Danke ! Ich war und bin schwer beeindruckt vom Cupra und würde auch den kleinen Ibiza gerne nochmal ausprobieren. Cupra ST ist echt ein tolles Angebot. Und selbst komplett Serie habe ich gestern auf der AB locker mit einem A45 mitgehalten...Hat der Oktavia RS Allrad ? Wäre vielleicht auch mal ein Kandidat für einen Test :) Schick mir Bilder vom Cupra wen Du magst, Link zur Facebook-Seite ist in der Videobeschreibuing ;) Grüsse Guido
TheGetawayer
Ich habe dir die Bilder via Nachricht auf FB zukommen lassen. Den ST und den Octavia RS solltest du dir wirklich mal angucken. AutomannTV hat den auch bereits getestet und war von dem Fahrzeug auch begeistert. Irgendwann wirst du dir (wie ich hoffentlich auch) den Traum von einem eigenen Porsche erfüllen können, da bin ich mir sicher =).
Schade dass die Amis nicht in den Genuss vom Cupra oder Octavia RS kommen können. Denen ist ja selbst der RS3 vergönnt.
LG,
Mo
Great review; easy to see how much fun you were having driving that beaut. Would that SEAT let the rest of the world in on the Cupra 280 party!
OwnRules Thanks ! Yeah too bad you can't get it everywhere. But a Golf GTI with a tune works just aswell, I think :)
Great review as always, wish this car was available in the US I would buy it in a heartbeat!
myjet4life Thanks ! Maybe somebody at Seat will hear you. Their german ceo is a very passionate and great man with the right vision to make them successful I think, SEAT Listen and go to the states :)
This segment is becoming really hot. In addition to the Cupra, which we don't get in Canada, there's the Golf R, and now the Ford Focus RS and now you guys in Europe also get small wagon versions of these cars. e.g. Golf R wagon and Cupra ST wagon.
Shame but Audi doesn't bring any of their hot wagons anymore and they only bring the automatics. The Seat is not available here, and VW will not be bringing the R wagon. I'm without a replacement for my aging A4 wagon!!!! Oh nice video Guido!
kevin n Thanks Kevin ! We need to let ***** know about that for sure :)
Thanks for the video. Always great to see what other people think of this car. I think you missed the opportunity to mention the importance of Seat fitting a mechanical LSD in this model, a fairly rare thing and pretty critical to the car's cornering performance. I personally admire any company who installs one on their sport modesl (Renault Clio/Megane Cup for example). You also could and should provide your impressions on a car's steering feel. How does it compare to, say, Audi's lifeless steering? Do you get any sense of what is happening at the contact patches from the steering wheel? Or do you have to guess what is going on? How did the "Progressive Steering" feel? Does it feel natural when going tighter into a turn, or does the increased speed towards lock, feel odd because it's not a linear progression? (I like fast steering in a car but have wondered what this system feels like). Also how is the steering weight? Heavy? Light? Does the weight build up in the corners when you lean on it? l You could also comment on the suspension's damping characteristics. Is it a well damped chassis? Is it supple? Or is it just stiff, for that sporty feel, but will not survive 10 minutes on a rough Britsh b-road? Is there a degree of comfort still or is it a teenager's idea of what a fast suspension is supposed to be (rock hard, no travel, super low)? You mentioned the Brembos, how is the pedal feel? Are they grabby? Or do they have a progressive feel in their application? Did you experience any fade on your aggressive street driving? In regards to the pedals, how is their placement for heel toe?
Would appreciate yout thoughts on these things. And perhaps you might consider talking about the above mentioned aspects when reviewing future cars.
Cheers!
Masked Threat Thank you very much for the detailed feedback on the video ! I really appreciate that ! I can tell you that the diff works brilliant in the dry, but there are limits to fwd and they become obvious in the wet where you get wheel spin up into 3rd gear / over 100km'h / 60mph...It's never a real problem though and adds excitement, because you manage it yourself and never really lose the car. That's why I said wheelspin, before understeer...The steering felt great to me. Lighter in Comfort-Mode, but I had it in the Cupra setting all the time. I should have covered that abit more indebth just like other things, but since I do these in my second language it would take me longer and I don't want to make 25 minute reviews. The viewer comments left out, I will take more time for these things next time, I promise. The chassis is well damped at any speeds for me. In the wet and on the autobahn I prefered the softer comfort setting, apart from that Cupra was useable at any time for me. The break are great, good feel, but abit too grippy at low speeds for my taste. Still great...Pedals for heel and toe are easy for me, but like I said in the S3 review ( that car has the exact same pedals ), abit of a problem for people with smaller feet. You can watch that S3 review if you haven't already...I hope that answers your questions. Maybe you should test drive a Leon Cupra and give me your own impressions now ? :) Greetings from germany, Guido / TheGetawayer
TheGetawayer Hi Guido, thanks for your reply! I'm impressed that you give the review in English. Not easy to do when it's not your first language. I also understand that going into such detail might make your review longer, but I don't think it would too much. Its a few extra words thrown in about subjects you're already touching on. Its more about rephrasing things to cover those points specifically, the word count won't grow that much, I imagine. Just need to make a note to talk about it in your script.
This car is on my short list for a new family car under 35k€. Others are the Focus ST Kombi, Skoda Octavia RS Kombi and completely left field choice, Skoda Yeti 1.8TSI AWD. My Current car is a Mini Cooper S Clubman and previous car was a heavily modified Subaru WRX Wagon.
I will definitely go for a test drive and add my thoughts here once I do.
Cheers, Arnie
Masked Threat I will try to get the Octavia RS for a test. Looks like a very interesting car. I will keep your feedback in mind and give more details in the next review !
TheGetawayer That would be great, especially if its the Kombi model. Maybe get the Focus ST Kombi as well. Would be interesting to compare those two. As I've just discovered your channel, I look forward to watching your other reviews.
If you were in the market to buy a hot hatch in 2022 would you pick this over a Golf R ? Great review as always Thanks.
No, the Golf R is more capable as a fun daily, but the Cupra is faster
Excellent review as always Guido! As a manual MK6 GTI owner, I believe a hot hatch is what a gran touring/ sporty coupe should be, but with added practicality such as the extra space, with a higher center of gravity being the only price. Anyways, I have a request to ask of you: I love your Porsche reviews (you may recognize me from all the praise I've given you in the past from your Porsche reviews haha). You instilled a love for Porsches in me, yet I also like having practicality as well. That being said, I am very curious to know if the Cayenne Turbo S is worth consideration for driving dynamics and driving pleasure versus, say a much cheaper Grand Cherokee SRT8 (Yes, I live in the states haha) that is nearly as fast but lacks the steering feel and sharp driving dynamics I crave from a proper Porsche driver's car, such as a Cayman for example. PLEASE do a review on a Cayenne Turbo S!
VQSeries Thanks, I really do appreciate ! I wanted to film the Cherokee SRT8 a while ago, but Jeep 's german pr-department manager behaved so weirdly: He wanted me to test a Lancia to proof myself first. I didn't feel like doing that was right, so I said ' No'...As far as the Cayenne Turbo S goes, I have to tell you that right now Porsche only wants to give me 2 to 3 cars for tests this year. Like last year they didn't tell me this before I tested the Macan and Carrera GTS. They told me I could get cars based on availabilty. So I don't even know at the moment if I will film another Porsche review this year at all ! I know this is crazy given how popular my Porsche reviews are, but that's where I'm standing right now :) Greetings from germany, Guido
Strange indeed you were asked to drive a Lancia just to prove yourself haha! Very unfortunate about the situation on reviewing Porsches, but it is what it is lol... I guess I'll just wait and hope next gen Cayenne Turbo S is just as attractive to me, and that u can get your hands on it! Anyways, keep up the good work in the mean time and thanks for the reply Guido - cheers!
Great review and thanks for reading my comment!!:)
Nikola Jovanovic You are very welcome ! Glad you enjoyed it, this part could have been 10 minutes haha :) So many great comments :D
Very nice review!!! Would like to see more of this reviews on RUclips. I love the new Cupra, if you look at the quality you get for the money it's awesome! I've ordered a 280 Cupra 5dr 21st Feb to replace my 2009 VW Golf VI GTI. Hope to get it soon!
Kurt Vanvlemen Thanks ! Let me know how you like it when it arrives and send me a picture on facebook if you like, Kurt !
TheGetawayer Yes I'll let you know how I like it. I will also send you a picture on your Facebook!
If they brought this car to the USA with a RWD/AWD option id buy it. This thing looks amazing, interior is sick.
thats why they dont bring it to usa...because you guys only care about rwd/awd and WHEN an american decides to go fwd its almost always a civic type-r....and thats a good thing! i completely agree with you guys...stick to rwd/awd cars, and if fwd, well then just buy the best fwd, the v-tec hondas..
Lovely in-car view of the driving. We don't have these kinds of roads in Canada and the speed limit is so low you would probably find yourself slowing down even if your were driving a chariot >_
MrCorgh Thank you :) The limit on these roads is 62mph, which is very nice for sure. When I was in america I couldn't adjust to the speed limits to be honest. Drivng on a highway at 65 or 70 feels painfully slow when you are used to autobahns :)
I can tell after having some fun hatchs to compare apples to apples... RS3, S3, GTI and Leon Cupra, that I love this car, it is so fun and fast, it kept up with a Honda CBR600 between 200-250 kph that I was really surprised on its performance (yah yah not legal speeds in my country, and yes factory speed limit is gone too...), one defect coz maybe my driving style is that it has understeering in high speed corners but it gets the job done (it could be great to have the 4 wheel vectoring from the VWs ), I can tell breaking is powerful but 250-0 it can get a bit harsh and disks will get very hot to a point it might lose breaking power (ceramic or better airflow at disk could really make a difference), I really can go anywhere with out feeling I will run into trouble or to be unsafe, same I do triathlons and cycling, it has enough space to garb your gears (bike, cloths, helmet, wetsuit, suitcase etc... and friends of course) and have a fun weekend! Said so, its cheap (but it has all the nice gadgets of my RS3 - sat, BT, good, sound, nice seats....), stable, fast, and very practical!
Gergar Great comment ! Thanks for sharing !
Great video, love that interior!
Suzuki1776 Thanks ! It's really nice also has beautiful lighting at nite :)
Great review! Keep up the good work! :)
Zed Tee Thanks ! Glad you enjoyed it !
Excellent review!
Luis Fausto Blanco Arreola Thanks !
Why Seat dashboards looks like some 90's Saab dashboards? Your car reviews are goods as many commercial tv chanels do :-)
Ich habe vor etwa drei Monaten mein bisheriges Alltagsauto, einen Lancia Delta Integrale zum Sommerauto umfunktioniert und als Alltagsauto durch einen Seat Leon Cupra 280 ersetzt. Das, denke ich, sagt schon einiges über diesen Seat aus.
Ich kann den neuen Seat Leon Cupra nur jedem wärmstens ans Herz legen, der ein alltagstaugliches Auto braucht, es aber auch abseits der öffentlichen Strassen mal krachen lassen möchte. Vielleicht werde ich nächstes Jahr beim Ford Focus RS schwach, da ich beim Leon doch ab und zu meinen geliebten Allradantrieb vermisse. Bis dahin bleiben wir beide aber ganz sicher ein gutes Team.
Gruß Blackthump
Blackthump Toller Kommentar ! Vielen Dank dafür und ich gebe Dir Recht was den Allrad im Nassen speziell angeht. Andererseits wird das fahren dadurch etwas spannender ohne wirklich gefährlich zu sein. Mir hat das schon auch Spaß gemacht, weil ich genrell sehr progressiv fahre. Mal sehen wie der Focus tatsächlich wird und ob Ford Deutschland mir den dann auch mal zum Test stellt :)
Excellent review Guido. I owned a 2007 Leon Cupra back in the day and have fond memories of it.
Have you tried the Octavia vRS? I have children so need the extra space.
kiftikhar No, but I would love to ! Have to get in touch with ŠKODA AUTO Deutschland GmbH to get a testcar. Really exciting looking package for the money !
It's a pretty good package. Very popular in the UK. I run a 2012 petrol DSG. It's perfect. There is a new 230 edition due soon which was showcased in Geneva featuring an electronic locking differential. Hopefully my next car (as long as I can steer clear of an E92 M3!!)
Naturally my current one has been remapped by Revo and is pushing 265bhp...
How tall are you? I might buy one but the seats seems short. Can you extend the headrest?
Any chance of testing a Golf GTI?
Very nice car. I prefer the 3 doors version. Good review. Grüsse from a 911 fool :-)
psychomat64 No 911 driver is a fool :D
Wieder mal ein schönes Video Guido, weiter so :)
Ich bin zwar BMW-Fan durch und durch, aber für den Preis eines Golf GTI's fast die Power eines R's zu bekommen ist schon erstaunlich.
Wie schaut es denn mit der Traktion aus, untersteuert dieses Fahrzeug häufig, insbesonders im Nassen/Grenzbereich bzw verliert es häufig die Traktion, da die komplette Power nur auf die Vorderachse verteilt wird?
Und wie schaut es mit dem Verbrauch aus, denkst du dass die Norm bei normaler Fahrt ansatzweise zu erreichen ist?
Über eine Antwort würde ich mich freuen
Grüße aus Niedersachsen
Lukas
TheLukas12364 Hi Lukas, danke für das tolle Feedback ! Also im Trockenen arbeitet die Differentialsperre hervorragend. Man sollte dennoch progressiv ans Gas gehen, wenn man nicht bereits jenseits des zweiten Gang unterwegs ist. Im Nassen bin ich heute nochmal über 300 km gefahren und kann Dir sagen, dass man da schon vorsichtig sein sollte. Das Auto ist sehr leicht zu beherrschen, nie gefährlich, aber der Motor hat unter heraus so eine Kraft das er selbst im dritten Gang bei über 80 km'h noch die Vorderräder zum Durchdrehen bringen kann. Untersteuern empfinde ich in diesem Auto als sehr minimiert...Der Verbrauch lag bei gut 8,5 Liter mit normaler Fahrweise. Wenn ich richtig geknallt bin wie auf der kleinen Kurvenstrecke oder AB kann es aber auch 13 Liter im Schnitt sein. Ist also wie jeder moderne Downsize-Turbo sehr sparsam bei leichtem Fuss, mit Spaß gefahren tendenziell etwas durstiger als ein Sauger, wobei wir da ja auch schon eine sehr große Maschine bräuchten, um diese Leistung zu erreichen...Hoffe das beantwortet Deine Frage, ich mag den Cupra seh :)
Great vid, thanks.
Alan Ton You're welcome, thanks for watching !
Something different with the sound in this video? sounds quite muffled... other than that, another excellent review !
Torrey B Used a lavalier Mic and automatic recording on the camera. It needs more adjustments, I guess manual recording is better. You won't believe how much of a pain editing audio is. I wish pushing a button and being done would be possible one day :)
Less music i know theres not much of it but i prefer r the raw engine sound but great review
+gamertanafc Thanks, I always use music for the intros but plan to change that abit for future videos :)
No more gti money, rather Golf R money! That Leon cupra 290, with performance pack, costs as much as a golf R now!
Start adding the same equipment on a Golf R as on a Leon Cupra and the Golf is still thousands of euros more expensive.
Is that just a standard silver??
Welche Farbe ist das in dem Video? Ist das Silber oder dieses Dynamic?
I think I would rather have a vw polo r wrc. Any thoughts on that?
well..it depends....if you need the extra interior space, than the answer is obvious...but if you are talking mainly about the pure driving pleasure, than i personally would stick with the polo...why? smaller, lighter more nimble car, a bit cheaper to buy and to run, and will be just as much fun, if not even more fun...but again, fun is a subjective thing...
Thx. I second that.
The integrated Headrest of the seat is really low or is the man so tall?
+auletes I'm actually tall 6'4 or 1,94 m
+TheGetawayer
Ok, I'm 1,86 m. I hope SEAT presents a Leon Cupra with these sporty seats at the IAA in Frankfurt (there is no SEAT-Dealer in my region with a Leon Cupra with these seats).
¿What about with the DSG version?
¿Is that a good transmition?
Sammpol Yes, I think one of the best dual clutches on the market. But I'm oldschool and prefer manuas :)
¿It's better than the dual clutch from the CLA 45 AMG?
Sammpol
Big YES
Wie siehts es aus mit einem Test vom neuen Mini Cooper S?
prozesswissen Von +BMW / MINI bekomme ich leider keine Testwagen gestellt
Achso, ja das ist schade. Danke für die Antwort und die tollen Videos :)
prozesswissen
Mich schmerzt das auch, hab sogar selber einen 1er, aber nach 3 Absagen frage ich auch nicht mehr. Obwohl der neue i8 mich schon sehr reizt ;)
Das ist schon schade, zumal so ein Review ja auch "kostenlose" Werbung für ein Modell o. eine Marke ist....
prozesswissen Ja, das ist BMW aber offenbar egal weil sie sowieso jedes Jahr mehr Autos verkaufen. Da würde meine Meinung vlt nur stören. Keine Ahnung ;)
I've added a short video on the Driver Profile settings. Some of you interested in the Cupra might find it useful: ruclips.net/video/PS7BouPYfng/видео.html
Cupra 280 or VW R?
drawdy trick Cupra for me. Only if you really need AWD go for the R
Lovely car, just don't like that grey plastic thing on the back bumper
09:59 Honestly, driving at legal speeds in that? It sounds impossible to me. I currently drive an Ibiza Style 1.6 TDI 90 HP and I find it quite hard to drive legal speeds just because it drives 'too' good! I'm upgrading to a Leon FR 1.4 TFSI 150 HP in a couple of months... Legal speeds... Ha Ha Ha :) :) :)
Wie groß bist?
The Golf is stupidly popular in the UK too and I do not understand why. They're overpriced and boring to look at, and boring to drive. The main issue with the Golf is the people that drive them, I've never met anyone that drives a Golf that I do not want to punch in the face because they're so fucking arrogant, claiming the Golf is the best car and nothing is better in anyway. Which is why I love the Seat so much, it looks better than the Golf, drives better than the Golf, and the fact it is based on the Golf but is better than that boring box makes it great.
lgliam I fully agree. Thanks for the comment !
Focus Rs
I don't like the interior, it's cheap and I don't bother it has 50 hp more than the GTI...the torque is the same 350 Nm, both are FWD so in the real world they are equal like dynamics, the GTI is just much more pleasant car to sit and drive it every day....
Robert Smith It's far from cheap, lol...And 50hp do make a difference. No I can't agree with you
TheGetawayer A friend of mine was about to get one Cupra like this, we went to the dealer ,but we were really disappointed with the interior, it's the worst from the MQB 4 (A3, Octavia, Golf,Leon). So he decided to get the Golf. Have you tried the GTI PP. I pretty sure it's sounds better, drives the same, it's more solid, better sound insulated, the interior is more stylish, especially with the tartan seats ...it's relative I know, but I prefer this or AWD than 50 hp and Spanish made car.
TheGetawayer let's say it like this...what do you want : base 991 7MT or GT-R....give me the bug please, even completely stock
Robert Smith Let's make a deal: Visit your next Seat dealership and sit in a Cupra. Then come back and tell me if it really is as horrible as your friend told you. My testcar felt super solid and I drove it very hard, many parts are directly from VW or Audi. I really can't complain about the quality. It's far better than japanese cars and about 85 % to the level of the Golf R. Seats are superb too. Check it out yourself, you might really like it :)