The Meaning of Creeping Ukrainian Losses in the East

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Michael Kofman popped into WOTR HQ to speak with Ryan about the war. They discussed territorial losses in the Donbas, the situation in Kursk, manpower challenges on both sides, and how Ukraine is seeing war termination on favorable terms. This episode also features a short preview of the most recent episode of Mike's members-only show, "The Russia Contingency," which featured an extended conversation with Mick Ryan, a retired Australian general and world-renowned expert on military affairs. Become a member to listen here: warontherocks....

Комментарии • 99

  • @Mrkillerkane
    @Mrkillerkane 5 дней назад +15

    still huffing each other farts

  • @darrenserwinek3337
    @darrenserwinek3337 4 дня назад +16

    What a wonderfully inconclusive analysis

  • @user-ov5nd1fb7s
    @user-ov5nd1fb7s 5 дней назад +9

    I like Kofman but what annoyes me is that he never reaches any conclusions.
    He just tells you what the information is and doesn't commit to any interpretation of that information.
    I understand it is a hard thing to do but isn't that kind of his job. I am not expecting him to be 100% accurate but saying something plausable is better than nothing.

    • @fraternitas5117
      @fraternitas5117 4 дня назад +1

      nafo gag order

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 4 дня назад

      @@fraternitas5117, Why?

    • @fraternitas5117
      @fraternitas5117 4 дня назад +1

      @@terjeoseberg990 because he gets paid by NAFO to shill NAFO talking points.

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 4 дня назад

      @@fraternitas5117, How do you know he’s being paid by NAFO?

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 4 дня назад

      @@fraternitas5117, Are you assuming that because Russia pays RUclipsrs, Ukraine does too? Or do you have evidence?

  • @realdaybreaker8013
    @realdaybreaker8013 6 дней назад +65

    Ukraine is winning for 2 years but losing all of a sudden, strange

    • @SkyGlitchGalaxy
      @SkyGlitchGalaxy 5 дней назад +10

      The explanation is that you are a troll. Or you haven't ever listened to this podcast before.

    • @talesofcanterbury42
      @talesofcanterbury42 5 дней назад

      Not loosing is winning for Ukraine. It humiliates the Russians.

    • @grahortarg9933
      @grahortarg9933 5 дней назад

      Strange way to be winning, fighting defensive battle. Ukraine have won in a sense that it has survived, but it fights defensive battle against the numerically, institutionally and industrially superior opponent, managing to bring its advancement to a crawl. However, you do not win a war by defending only, nor Ukraine is going to. Clear goal is to survive until Putin dies from natural causes and whomever comes to Russia next loses interest in the war.

    • @sleezerbarb9670
      @sleezerbarb9670 5 дней назад +4

      Watch a channel called ukraine matters. This channel is trash Kremlin propaganda

    • @talesofcanterbury42
      @talesofcanterbury42 5 дней назад +1

      @@sleezerbarb9670 many thanks

  • @yp77738yp77739
    @yp77738yp77739 5 дней назад +21

    Been listening with bemusement to this nonsense for about 18 months now. Pretty impressive to have achieved a near 0% success rate in terms of predictions vs outcomes on the ground, even exceeding what you would anticipate from random variation within probability theory. The only situation where that is even possible is if there is an extreme bias, rather than any form of analysis.
    Still, it’s always fun to hear the fictional narratives.

    • @JonWilde2105
      @JonWilde2105 5 дней назад +4

      The Times Radio channel on RUclips is also worth a listen from time to time to get a sense of the total insanity that passes for mainstream analysis of the conflict.

    • @garethmartin6522
      @garethmartin6522 5 дней назад

      It has revealed that the West really has no idea what war is and how to fight one. And the Americans seem determined to learn no lessons at all.

    • @Jack-e5t
      @Jack-e5t 5 дней назад

      Who do you like for objective analysis? Rybar? lol

    • @garethmartin6522
      @garethmartin6522 5 дней назад

      @@Jack-e5t Rybar has proven itself far, far more reliable than the Ukrainians.

    • @ArtVanDeLay5321
      @ArtVanDeLay5321 5 дней назад +1

      Times Radio is an alternate reality based show where as War on the Rocks is just openly pro-ukrainan in its bias but making some nominal attempt to be based in objective reality. I find this show useful and probably closest to a more sober analysis.

  • @SHW5010
    @SHW5010 6 дней назад +7

    Thank you for this podcast, super important given the amount of data coming out of the war zone

  • @terjeoseberg990
    @terjeoseberg990 4 дня назад

    What’s the cost for Russia to take territory, and what’s Ukraine’s cost to defend it? In a war of attrition, doesn’t this matter more than territory?

  • @TheGranicd
    @TheGranicd 5 дней назад +4

    "Fluid" but in one direction sadly.

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 4 дня назад

      What’s the cost to Russia and what’s the cost to Ukraine? Doesn’t this matter more than territory?

  • @rosstisbury1626
    @rosstisbury1626 5 дней назад +2

    time will tell . . .

  • @snowsnow4231
    @snowsnow4231 5 дней назад +18

    I can see the future, let me... let me take a look into 2030-s... Ukraine is a small country with 2 villages somewhere in Carpathian mountains, the rest is Russia. West crumbles economically and resorts to a full scale war as the last ditch effort to escape trillions of debt. One by one US allies switch sides or take neutral stance. By the end of first year of full scale WW3, most industrial military complex companies just steal funds never delivering any ammo, troops desert in large numbers because the government is too afraid to do rotations, preferring to keep unhappy soldiers overseas, further away from Washington. With large scale sabotage all over the country, food shortages sweep through the US and riots begin. Peace is signed, Russia puts military bases along US coast, Russian soldiers distribute buckwheat and solyanka soup to locals to soften a humanitarian crisis. West eventually lost, becoming one large trailer park living off food stamps.
    Decades later you leave refugee camp to visit your old house and find a screenshot of a RUclips comment from September 2024 on your old phone that predicted it all. Curtains close.

    • @HFordMCAZ
      @HFordMCAZ 5 дней назад +5

      How’s your guys’s shitty demographics coming along?

    • @ttexastt
      @ttexastt 5 дней назад +3

      Fuck... I love buckwheat soup.

    • @leifiseland1218
      @leifiseland1218 5 дней назад +3

      That's some strong stuff you're smoking..😂😂

    • @Jack-e5t
      @Jack-e5t 5 дней назад +1

      Great comment captain fetalalcoholsyndromeski

    • @user-mn2mw1og8u
      @user-mn2mw1og8u 3 дня назад +1

      You could certainly write some interesting fiction

  • @PhilipWong55
    @PhilipWong55 5 дней назад +2

    The lengthy Western supply chain to sustain the war in Ukraine gives Russia an advantage in attrition warfare, as its shorter supply chain allows for more efficient resupply and endurance.

    • @frankrenda2519
      @frankrenda2519 5 дней назад

      the west has nothing left to give

    • @TheGranicd
      @TheGranicd 5 дней назад

      No. its attrition of manpower. Ukr forces simply got grinded down more and more. If you look at list of equipment Ukr got its insane. Its enough to build an army and then some.

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 5 дней назад

      Russia is 2x the population when accounting for all the Ukraine’s that left . They have all the oil/gas/resources and will given it’s an existential threat to them to have NATO weapons in the hands of Banderite neo nazis .
      After it was clear the west and Ukraine has no intention of sticking to Minsk 1-2, Russia had not choice but to act and secure the Russian speaking areas from Neo nazi assault and their only warm water harbour on Crimea.
      Russia moves slow and deliberate so to reach their objectives demilitarisation, denazification, and assurance that Ukraine will not join NATO.
      Are in mind, the US has the “Montoe Doctrine” that prohibit ANY foreign power to have any assists in the western hemisphere .

    • @killman369547
      @killman369547 5 дней назад

      @@TheGranicd It's both. Their equipment is being destroyed as soon as the Russians find it, and their soldiers are dying en masse every time they encounter the russian army.

  • @matovicmmilan
    @matovicmmilan День назад

    You 2 don't know enough about the topic - either Russia, Ukraine, economics, etc. and can't hide that the decades of exposure to pro-American/West prop aganda is difficult to overcome... although in order to overcome any false belief, you first have to fully acknowledge it, but you like it too much 😂😂

  • @ViceCoin
    @ViceCoin 4 дня назад +1

    The grain ship was smuggling weapons, aka Lusitania.

  • @ViceCoin
    @ViceCoin 4 дня назад +2

    Ukraine lost 17,000 in Kursk.

  • @ViceCoin
    @ViceCoin 4 дня назад +1

    Ukraine is out of conscripts and ammo.

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 4 дня назад +2

      So the 5 remaining Ukrainians holding back a million Russians with their bare hands? Those 5 Ukrainians must be badazz.

    • @terjeoseberg990
      @terjeoseberg990 4 дня назад +1

      So the 5 remaining Ukrainians are holding back a million Russians with their bare hands? Those 5 Ukrainians must be badazz.

  • @rocko7711
    @rocko7711 5 дней назад +1

    🇺🇦

  • @svitvalencic2507
    @svitvalencic2507 6 дней назад +1

    First

  • @VladimirStevanoviclennon33
    @VladimirStevanoviclennon33 4 дня назад +1

    How to win against nuclear power?

  • @treesetc3305
    @treesetc3305 5 дней назад +1

    🇺🇦