After watching this, I dont think it is about child labour. The root of the issue here is corporate greed because if the adults were paid better, they wouldn't want/need their children to work. Pay them a decent amount so they can be the breadwinners, for heaven's sake.
@@daphneg5712 I ran a successful business in South Africa and sold this at a profit some 10 years later. Had I exploited my staff I would definitely have made more money. Fact is, it’s easy to take advantage of workers who have little to no bargaining power. I think the comment about corporate greed is a fair one. The bigger the company, the more likely they are to put numbers above people.
Bible tells the root of all evil is love for money When Lord Yeshua comes this evil and sin will never exist. I wait for Jesus Christ, My heart aches for all children and people of the world.
Subject: Mandatory Feminism Education in South Korea Dear BBC, I am writing to bring attention to a significant issue in South Korea regarding the implementation of mandatory feminist education in primary, middle, and high schools. A petition by a large group of South Korean women in their 20s and 30s led to a government decision to introduce mandatory feminist education across schools (Petition Archive). This movement was supported by the South Korean government, which announced its intention to pursue this policy (YTN). Additionally, there has been criticism and controversy surrounding the policy's implementation, with reports of coercive tactics used by teachers to indoctrinate students, including targeting vulnerable children (PennMike). In May 2021, a petition on the South Korean presidential website called for an investigation into teachers accused of indoctrinating students with feminist ideas and creating a hostile environment for those who resist (MBN) I believe this issue merits international attention due to its implications for educational policies and gender politics. Best regards,
BBC tall "MBC,KBS,SBS is anti feminist" but MBC,KBS,SBS is feminists. BBC isn't National Geographic. BBC is official news. KBS filed a lawsuit against the BBC for misrepresentation of the documentary. Suspicions were raised that the documentary contained false facts about KBS and caused defamation. Following the lawsuit, the BBC apologized for the inaccuracies and agreed to correct the errors. The claim that anti-feminist Yoon Seok-yeol ordered the three broadcasting companies to censor content is as unbelievable as the BBC's recent mistakes. In fact, MBC and SBS censor public broadcasting content in real time, changing terms such as 'stroller' (stroller) to 'baby car' (child's car) and 'birth rate' (birth rate) to 'birth rate' (birth rate). I am using it. They censored the words stroller and birth rate because they did not fit the ideology of female supremacy.
The little girl saying “I hate jasmine” shattered my heart. I usually don’t wear perfumes because my nose is super sensitive to fragrance. But after smelling a jasmine tree in person, I bought my first perfume last year, the jasmine one from Gucci. I fell in love with love with the tree and it hurts me to know that a little girl across the globe has such a distaste for something so beautiful because of what she’s forced to do.
I hope BBC will check up on these pickers after this documentary is aired to make sure that the factories DO NOT retaliate against the poor mother and her children. Judging by the factories' responses in this docu, I worry about what will happen to the mother and children, and pray that things will improve for them,
No American would be able to sleep or eat after checking up on these innocent souls. God created balance for some reason but it obviously exists drastically
Of course they're going to be retaliated against. BBC will bring back to broadcast on that as well. How do you know if they aren't just a different type exploiter? I'm not saying that getting the story out isn't important work but I'm curious as to what if any profit is made off of these stories and how much goes back, if any, towards helping the victims directly and indirectly. Just a thought!
Nope. Usually this kind of exposure attracts people who try to help, pay kids school, and donate food. A lot of people around the world get triggered by these things and usually they help.
Luxury brand perfumes pay high salaries, use Hollywood actresses to advertise, and open stores in prime locations around the world. The cost of perfume will be very low. When I look at these working children, I find it very foolish to buy expensive perfumes.😢
I cannot afford expensive scents, but this is eye opening. In Bulgaria, rose oil is imported for perfumes as well. I wonder if Bulgaria uses child labor as well.
They pay models actress a lot of money but don’t pay the ones that work hard not what they deserve. The system is full of hypocrisy. Avoid any brand you can cause 99% have dirt going on
Also worth noting with this mention of a perfume costing $1 to bottle, is this is only achievable by these large conglomerates who can buy in ridiculously large quantities. As soon as you start looking at smaller perfume houses, especially those that are independent and working at a much smaller scale, that cost very quickly rises.
@@MD-01 It's fine if you think the salaries of marketing people and executives are the justification. I'd take a Marxist view on this one and say it's bourgeois nonsense and gullible consumerism.
Buying cheaper option or not doesnt matter. what really matters is the person who pay the pickers, should increase the pickers' pay. Wage of the pickers in that labor market is obviously oppressed...
I work in this industry {retail} and find this to be a disgrace, no mother should be forced to sacrifice her children to feed her family. Shame to the whole chain for knowingly participating in child labor and making half assed excuses for it!
and did the owner of the perfume FORCE THE WOMAN TO HAVE KIDS? did the designe who owns the perfume made a poor man have sex with woman and have kids THE "MAN" CAN?T SUPPORT? who is the cruel one ? the poor,they are cruel and irresponsible.
@@bambieyedgirl7846 why? the poor have kid after kid they can´t feed.WHO forces them to have a good time in bed with a woman? not the rich,not the owner of the businesss.
I don’t think she’s forced to make a 5 year old and 8 year old child work. I understand she’s in poverty but that’s unacceptable and you can’t blame the industry for people deciding to have children if they’re already struggling financially.
This family of pickers were being poorly treated and paid. And now after this report, I bet they lost their job. My heart broke when that little girl said "I hate jasmine". How traumatizing is that. No child should go through this.
Are you delusional? These are Muslim girls. You think their families want them in school. I grew up in Algeria. Algeria is over 99 percent Muslim. Girls are supposed to get married as soon as they menstruate and produce more Muslim babies. You western people think you know how the world works but dont know a thing.
@@sozbdulrhmanli3300 you obviouly lack any morality and have zero empathy for these people being exploited. These companies make huge profits yet don't have the humanity and decency to pay a fair living wage to the parents so their children don't have to work and have proper nutrition. People like you make me nauseous!!!!
I am going to stop buying perfume. I have more than enough and I feel so ashamed not knowing what those kids went through just to give us the fragrance. The corporate greed is just crazy. Wish more can be done to help the kids.
Unfortunately everything we buy in the West is made somehow by third-world labour practices (including child labour): perfume, chocolate, coffee, clothes, China-made products, etc. Sadly, there's a reason why a lot of import products are sometimes cheaper than those made in one's respective country.
@@sadimasson8734 do the rich force the poor to have 12 kids per woman? kids they can´t feed? or is it the poor who are cruel and irresponsible whoa have a good time in bed and do not care a child will be born?
What happens to these people after this documentary? I hope BBC supports them, because they are profiting from these stories. And they didn’t blur the interviewees faces.
Very informative. To whomever mixed the audio, your BGM audio levels drown out the presenter at multiple points. Please consider reuploading with corrected audio. This information deserves to be heard, but you’ve accidentally hampered that.
No it was not a "Audio Glitch" BBC, it's your low quality "Journalism" that you fund by abusing the elderly and vulnerable by sending things to their door. These funds could of been used by actual journalists belonging us the stories as they should be, not as a half arsed by product of extortion.
Fantastically informative but as some of those interviewed point out, the real problem is the price paid to the jasmine growers. The family featured will not be able to survive if their children don't work but the mother's earnings remain the same. It How can the fragrance companies justify paying the lowest possible rate to those who pick and produce while paying 25 times more on advertising?
@@anukritisrivastava2107 But most important cheap labor ids offered by the POOR ,they sell their kids.Go to the source,WHY is there there so much cheap labor?Because the poor are cruel,they happily ave sex AND DO NOT CARE that a child they can´t feed will be born.THE poor are cruel.VERY cruel.THEY can´t even give their kids a glass of pure water,let alone food or send them to school.
Without advertising, the product wouldn't sell. If the product doesn't sell, then there'd be no business. If there is no business, then there's no jobs for anyone. No jobs mean it's worse for the poor. No job means no food to eat. That's why advertising is so important.
why? the fault is of th parents, not the owner of the business.the poor keep having gkids they can´t feed,it is their responsability to feed their kids and send them to school...
@@zuzannanowicka6348 Yes I do. That is the reason I comment.I´ve known many poor persons who just keep getting pregnant. NOW -with internet-they figured they can actually sell their children to foreigners or as work slaves.BEFORE it happened as well but now it´s really esay to find buyers.THE POOR ARE CRUEL!
@@zuzannanowicka6348 I grew up very poor, lived in a hut, slept on a dirt floor, no indoor toilet, barely any food to eat, always hungry. As a young child, I wished my parents didn't create me or born me into a world of suffering, so @sesspess is correct. The poor should not have kids they can't afford. If you are poor, why create children and bring them into the world only for them to suffer and struggle?? Why do that to an innocent child. Children didn't ask to be born into poverty. If children could choose a parent or a family to be born into, we wouldn't choose a poor one. Poor people are the cruel ones, who create children they can't afford. A business never forced my mom to have kids. A big corporation never forced my mom to bring me into the world. It's my parents who did that. It's my parents who brought me into a life of poverty. So yes, poor people should not have kids.
The jasmine harvesting season runs from June to November in Egypt's Gharbiya region, which accounts for over half of the global jasmine supply. During this period, a large number of children are employed to pick the fragrant jasmine flowers from widespread bushes before sunrise. This cheap labor force enables the production of jasmine concrete and absolutes, which are exported worldwide for use in renowned perfume brands. Bulgari, whose perfume Splendida Jasmin Noir features a rich jasmine scent. Dior, with jasmine being a prominent note in fragrances like J'adore and Jasmin des Anges. Yves Saint Laurent, whose Mon Paris perfume has an intense jasmine heart. Tom Ford, with jasmine being a key component in fragrances like Jasmin Rouge. Also Jasmine picked by child laborers in Egypt are used by suppliers of Lancôme (owned by L'Oréal) for its Idôle L'Intense perfume, and Aerin Beauty (owned by Estée Lauder) for its Ikat Jasmine and Limone Di Sicilia fragrances.
no. offer and demand.too many kids born in poverty are foced to work because the father can not control himself and had 12 kids per woman.THAT IS NOT THE FAULT of the business,it is of the man who is poor and has kids!
As a person who loves perfumes, this is eye-opening. I always thought the jasmine note in perfumes are man-made, you know, concocted using different chemicals to simulate the smell of jasmine, to cut cost..
If this is not addressed the right way, those flower picking jobs will be gone and it will probably be more just synthetic jasmine in the future. L'Oreal and Estee Lauder may decide to ban natural Jasmine from their brands, but it will be noticeable in the reduction of appeal and quality.
Yes you are right. The majority of Jasmine used in perfumery is not real Jasmine it is synthetic. It's only some of the bigger brands like Chanel and Dior amongst others who use real Jasmine absolute because it is far too expensive and not financially viable. I am a perfumer myself and I very rarely use real Jasmine absolute because of the cost. So not all of this documentary is truthful. Most perfumers in the industry use synthetic Jasmine that has been created in a lab. Including myself. Not to mention that Jasmine is a highly restricted material in the industry. So we all opt at finding a synthetic that is not restricted so much to make that special Jasmine perfume. The solution is not the consumer who must stop buying perfume. The solution must come from the distiller who takes the flowers and makes the oils. They are the ones responsible for ethical standards in the industry. They are the ones setting the price therefore they are the ones that should be paying these families a lot more. It's disgusting and that needs to change.
Deforestation has been made in Bolivia to produce the sugarcane alcohol for this European industry. The price of one litre of alcohol is a fraction of dollar and in a perfume formulation it ranges around 90% of content.
The smell can actually affect someone's health especially if they are allergic to it.I am actually allergic to jasmine and don't like anything jasmine in it bse it affects me badly though I agree with you that pesticides play a big health risk too
Factories should increase the prices of jasmine collected by those jasmine pickers. governments should regulate prices.They should also provide safety goggles and flashlights. Parents should not allow their kids to work.
Even if factories increase the price it doesn't mean the workers will get paid more, there are always corrupt middle men and corporations that benefit the most. The make up industry, and big companies like Apple and tesla exploit and use child labour but they still in high demand. The parents are terrible for having kids and expecting them to work, there's a saying it takes a community to raise a child, people living in these area should all come together and be educated on how to stop this, the govt of these countries should also provide education for kids so they can have a better future. And if you in a position to help then help kids better there future then make a difference by helping. I donate money to a organization that provides pad for girls living in rural areas, many girls miss school because they miss school during there periods, has a women I find it heart breaking, cos when women are educated they become empowered and are to do more for there kids and community
Went help. North Africa, India and the Middle East have a very different perspective on slavery and using children. Only possible way to overcome this is to grow in different moral countries, but the costs will be prohibitive.
it's easier said than done, after many years, the price is at the stabilizing point, if you change the price at 1 point of production, it will trickle down the whole system
When you buy a $100 bottle of perfume, most of that money goes on distribution and advertising: Distribution $35 Advertising $25 VAT $19 Perfume Profit $15 Packaging $3 Manufacturing $1 That leaves $2 for the flower pickers and the oil producers. There’s the problem! They must have a larger piece of the pie.
Have you done a film on Cobalt and the solar and e-car industry? Child labour, unregulated business in the Congo.... You should pick that story up too.
yep easier to blame the horrible "west" not the local government... There are poor ppl in europe who live under 100 euros a month in poor parts of east europe, but you still dont see that there. There is a demographic crisis though. Egypt is not a poor country. Its like blaming the west for poor treatment of women in muslim countries..
As consumers we need to stop buying perfumes. I admit I do love perfumes and after watching this documentary I will not be purchasing anymore. We need to be aware of the consequences and effects of mass consumption. I pray for children and families that are suffering all over the world.
That's an unrealistic expectation. It's like asking people to stop using shampoos or soaps, because most of the beauty products are chemically engineered. All waste goes into land where ecological disaster is happening, and we just don't see it. Just look at how many products have perfume in them. Laundry, room sprays, candles, shampoos, body wash... you name it. People just love fragrance because it's "aromatherapy". But it's unnatural scents, chemically engineered. You don't have to stop using perfume altogether, but just know which houses take care in the way they run their business. There are many family-owned houses who are completely independent and do not go through commercial mass production flow.
Me too. I will not get a perfume, fragrance or Cologne again and asked that others don't get me one either. We grow lemon verbena, rosemary, lavender, lovage. We can use those to fragrance our clothes and that's enough. Not supporting huge business that tell us how successful they made profits...
@@nichegoseberazdvatriit’s very easy and cheap to make your own perfume. And so is shampoo and soaps and is also better in terms of ingredients cos u can make them free of harmful chemicals. Problem is majority of people are too lazy. And even those who complain they don’t have much money still spend money buying expensive perfumes and shampoos 😂.
@@JT-oh4eu I would love to learn how I can make them. People who take time to master the skill probably don't have 12-hour a day job, and it's not a priority for them. I would love to make my own clothes, perfume, shampoo, build my own house free from led. lol I could take time to learn to do all that. But I also need to be jobless and spend time to learn all these things. Also one needs to buy ingredients to make perfume, and know which combinations will not cause ingredients to go stinky lol
Yeah the problem is the people who are buying lots of these are stupid rich people that are never gonna care about these issues. They aren't the types to watch a documentary on bbc and give a shit.
If we don’t buy then what? What if all consumers stop buying and then industry dies, the families who rely on this job will be even more impoverished. We need laws to ensure they are compensated fairly and no ethical infringement happened in the sourcing process.
I never knew jasmine oil came from Egypt, I figured it was an Asian country. In Chicago, many Asian American store owners sell jasmine plants, they costs between $15-22 dollars. I adore the scent of jasmine, but this documentary opens my eyes.
Thank you BBC. Diagram on screen at 20:17, showing where money for perfume goes, shocked me. "Magie Noire" by Lancôme costs round €100 for eau de toilette, I'm sure people who buy that wouldn't object to fairer wages for pickers and others in the supply chain. EU is sort of facing in the right direction but pressure is needed...
What can she really do about it? She might be a doctor, but does she have any real power to change the situation? All she can do is care for them as best as possible.
He could be enslaved in a different field. Many scenarios play in mind and I can't make wrong assumptions about people. God bless the mothers and the children who do everything to get by.
Ahmed Mesilhy, the head of the Child Defense Network, has highlighted the grim reality of child labor in Egypt. He states that child labor is primarily linked to poverty and the deteriorating economic conditions of families
The supply chain is key here. The big perfume houses are not the ones paying the flower pickers. The problem is that these flower pickers are independent contractors who sell their flowers at a rate set by the buyers who make the oil. The Egyptian government needs to set the minimum price paid for the flowers and the oil too. This would go a long way to protect the people and their products from being exploited. That said, the minimum wage in Egypt is only EGP3,500 per month or $73.
they have to set regulations on that it will be a big help for there people to have at least minimum wage and help create jobs egypts economy is very 😢 inflation devaluation of currency its really heart breaking here
@@gezimsmajlaj3879not true. I make my own perfume too and buy organic essential oils and a few that are fragrance oils that are sourced from small family owned businesses. You just need to research and you’ll find it. It’s still a lot cheaper than buying a branded one and everyone asks me what perfume I wear cos they think it’s gorgeous 😊
It is inappropriate that A. Fakhry and Co. uses an independent collectors and farmers loophole in legislation and regulations. It is precisely that loophole that leads to the exploitation and violation of the pickers' human rights.
this is the reality of what these “gig” economies are trying to do, sidestep the protections and legal regulations keeping them from exploiting their workforce. we need more worker protections at every level, in every corner of the globe.
The girl with Jasmine allergies visiting health clinic starting at 3:00 to pick Jasmine. The moment she awakens her eyes are burning! Yet She’s a child who is working long night shifts, all companies and people profiteering of these children are going to have to answer to the biggest Boss Upstairs
Start with her mother. Who the f takes their sick child to work?! Then continue with the Egyptian government. Dior is not responsible for these families. They pay the price of the market for the product they buy. Egipt has a corrupt government and has been keeping its people in poverty. Imagine if the picking of jasmine is taken away from these folks. How are they gonna make money to feed their families?
I feel like a lot of low wage employees lost their job from this documentary. I am thankful for the information and I will never look at a bottle of perfume the same. I hope the community that this family lives in doesn’t cast them out for shedding light on their suffering.
I am so glad right now that I have a fragrance allergy and don't use perfumes at all. When I saw that the pickers only make less than $2.00 for hours of work I was flabbergasted, especially when a lot of these perfumes cost hundreds of dollars, its not like they are being sold for like $5.
Farmers should be more protected by the government. Unfortunately so many governments in Africa do not do that. I do not see how hard it is to pay $5 per kilo. Such a shame.
The involvement is not only limited to perfumes with luxury brands on it, it involved the normal household keeping agents with brand tags as well. Like room/air fresheners and cosmetics as well. such an irony that humans demand making human slave to human to this certain level of extortion & greediness. thank you so much BBC world for this coverage.
@@sesspessstop commenting under each comment showing HUMANITY and criticizing the poor people and having the audacity to call them cruel when heartless ppl like you are cruel and just bootlick these corrupted companies. YOUR A MONSTER WHO HAS NO EMPATHY. Take some accountability
No one is blaming the mothers who abuse their children like this? They are the once abusing their children working them as slaves! These mothers must be charged!
Every where it’s the same no matter where ,the big companies make the big bukks and the little guys get paid peanuts, every where it’s the same story Big companies should be held accountable for this
yep I cant imagine living for a $1 a day////// even if Egypt is not the most expensive country in the world but still one us dollar is ridiculous, they cant live normal with that amount 30-50 usd per month for a fam. of four is crzy.....It is so inhumane. That for some people to live good others have to suffer. And the thing is that that people from developed countries dont want this to happen but greedy corporation only thing abt. themselves and money/
I’m allergic to fragrances, so I don’t consume many cosmetics, but it makes me mad the amount of money they pay to actresses to promote their perfumes but won’t pay a fair wage to the pickers. 🤬
In most of the countries child labor is linked to poverty or lack of financial stability. It's a shame that even in the 21st century, many of our children in different parts of the world undergo a miserable life. Exploitation of our children continue in different forms. It is high time to abolish child labor in any forms by ensuring their rights to live a dignified life. Good documentary. 👏
Okay. But isn't this more the fault of the Egyptian government rather than the luxury brands? Right now, they are spending $100 billion to build a capital far away from the people, instead of spending that on modernizing their industries. The first one to turn a blind eye on this are the Egyptian bureaucrats.
The reason to build a new capital far away from the people is to prevent another Arab Spring! It'll be difficult for the citizens to match to the government and demand changes. Egyptian president was a former general, creating laws to prosper the citizens doesn't seem to be his priority. The middle class Egyptians seems to like him
I agree that it should be the priority of the Egyptian government to stop this modern form of slavery. Otherwise, What do you have a governement for?. Unfortunately, global economies work like this one way or another, it's simply criminal
True. Maybe it should be grown elsewhere. Egypt is a country that has wasted most of their income from an unending flow of tourism in just corruption and have little to show from all the years and years of visitors leaving them a lot of income.
The thing with these situations is that, that mother and her children are "independent contractors". I assume that make the mother directly and solely responsible for the child labour. There is nothing really to push the masters to do anything
It's so sad, but what's even more baffling is, as adults, when you know you can't afford to raise more than 1 child properly, what gives you the right to bring more life on this earth when you can't promise or give them a better life?
If the fragrance houses weren't paying Natalie Portman and co millions of £s to appear in their advertisements, perhaps more of the revenue could get lower down the supply chain. I, as someone who owns lots of perfume, have never ever bought a bottle of scent based on a celebrity advertising it. I doubt I'm the only one.
That is consumer's preference, either sponsor large lifestyle brands and corporations where you find one set of value component ratios, or chose from smaller niche brands that do not waste their budget on expensive distribution and promotion costs, but rather on a better quality of juice.
Sadly it's one of these cases where there are so many factors at play. Especially when you're dealing with a lengthy supply chain that crosses geographical, cultural and financial borders, as is often the case in perfumery given that there is a desire from consumers to want products containing expensive and luxury ingredients. Even if Givaudan/Firmenich etc were to dictate to the jasmine factories how much they should pay the suppliers, it doesn't then mean that the suppliers would have obligation to pay the independent farmers any more money. It could also mean that the jasmine farm owners could dictate the farmers pay them a larger sum for the right to pick from their farm if larger pay created a competitive work force. On top of this, it seems so much of the issue with how much the farmers are being paid is dictated by the dwindling value of the Egyptian Pound. The value of the pound fell drastically again this year to the point where it is now only worth a fifth of what it was 4 years ago. So even with the amount that is being paid by fragrance companies, the Egyptian part of the supply chain is now only seeing a fifth of what they once made even a short while ago. This then creates the issue where those on the poverty line who want enough money to live, will bring their children along to pick with them, creating the issue of child slavery. It should be on the likes of Givaudan to set a baseline of value, so if currency value decreases, they would just have to drastically increase the price they pay for the material to compensate, and the end companies such as Estee Lauder would need to accept that this will mean a small reduction in profits if they want to sell a product containing Night Blooming Jasmine, or they can increase the price of the end product, but that could see them with an even larger reduction in profits, so that's up to them as a business to decide how best to price their products.
*Ooh my God I remember the Jasmine flower just falling off our garden tree and all the scent would scatter inside our house. Approximately 70% of houses in the Middle East would have the tree grown in their house* 😅❤
I think that it can happen in many industries, not just perfume industry. Due to the influence of globalisation, supply chains have been transmitted to many developing countries to reduce cost. Secondly, these families have rights to make their children rest if they think health of children is more important.
It's not only about greedy corporations, it's also about corrupt government in Egypt and other countries where the illegal use of child labor is very common.
"Break the cycle of child labor with financial freedom! Invest in a brighter future, where every child can thrive. Support organizations that combat child labor and invest in the financial market to grow your wealth. Together, we can create a world where every child can pursue their dreams, not just survival."
I agree with you and I believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don’t know who agrees with me but either way I recommend either real estate or bitcoin and stocks..
@@face2lune Understanding your financial needs and making effective decisions is very essential. If I could advise you, you should seek the help of a financial advisor. For the record, working with one has been the best for my finances...
I’m Glad i stumbled on this. Please, if its not too much of a hassle for you, can you drop the details of the CFP that assisted you and how to get in touch….
Thirty years ago, while on a business trip to Cairo as a telecom executive, I had the opportunity to dine with local colleagues and friends. During our conversation, the troubling issue of child labor in the jasmine fields was brought to my attention. Jasmine, commonly used in both men's and women's fragrances, left a lasting impression on me. From that moment on, I decided to forgo cologne, choosing instead to rely on my natural pheromones-a choice that has served me quite well ever since.
20:17 Where the money goes… Looking at the numbers, $19 of every $100 bottle of perfume sold is Vat. Perhaps some of that money could be used to help those seasonal workers so their children don’t have to work. The government is already getting the tax from the perfume companies profits. Just a thought…
I do not understand! These children arent allowed to be children. This breaks my heart. My children never knew how good they really had it. Kids today dont know.
I shared this on Facebook. We, the public, need to be aware. This is so sad to me. How ungrateful we are for what we have when we grumble when actually we are very blessed.
What happens to the children and their parent’s, if the ban is enforced? This is a complex issue… having lived in a country that uses child labor for seven years, these parents are dependent on these jobs.
I think the problem is that despite the end product being expensive, that is not going down stream of the supply chain. The perfume industry is exploitative, and thats why these people are dependent on child labor. The problem is purely on those who profit off the product, and uses these products, either knowingly pr unknowingly. The problem is with us, in the first world country
I am in the trade and you can't imagine how much loreal is mad about this documentary even if they are not directly targeted. the truth is after this documentary the world will keep purchasing perfume and loreal's business will keep increasing
Interesting that they chose to focus only on jasmine flower. What about synthetic fragrances? How about chemicals that we don't know how ingredients were made? Can they make us sick or increase our risk of cancer?
maybe these big brands in the perfume industry can contribute back the profits they get to the flower picking community in egypt... donations in the form of education schools for children, health care for children involved in the jasmine flower industry 🇪🇬❤️🇪🇬❤️🇪🇬❤️🇪🇬
What’s really wild is that despite knowing all of this people will still continue to purchase perfumes because in reality we don’t care since we the consumers are not really “affected” unless it happened to us and our children
If you two care so much, why don't you invite these poor families to live with you and pay everything for them? Why not do that? Since you two care so much. Give the poor money, pay everything for their families and give them a house to live in, pay all their bills. Please go do that, otherwise it means you don't care.
@@katielee7364it isn't. if you buy things only once in awhile, buy second hand or refurbished, or find hand made goods/local businesses (online etsy is good) you can avoid it
Most people don't know and won't know... And they fall for the company's ethical sourcing lies. Far more people see the companies advertisements than this documentary. But I think most people just don't know, and yes, some part of the people that know might not care but I think most will.
Are people really commenting about the background music? It's hard to fathom. Meanwhile, we're spending our money on perfumes that underpay their suppliers and use child labor. That's a far more serious concern. At this point, it's clear that everyone is profiting from Africa for their own gain, a shame!
Thanks to the BBC for making such a report, let me know the working environment at the bottom of the perfume industry chain. In addition to the legislation mentioned in the video, the luxury goods company and masters assume the corresponding social responsibility, commissioning an independent body to review the more transparent industry chain. I think the local government also needs to strengthen the construction of infrastructure and enrich the employment options of local residents. What I see in this video is that flower pickers have no better source of income than gathering jasmine flowers. In addition, I would also like to say that $300 perfume is still too far from my life, and this is the problem of the gap between rich and poor.
there is children´s labor because the poor have kids they can not feed.if they didn´t have kids they can´t feed ,there would not be so much cheap and replaceable workers.THE poor keep having kids they can´t feed,they send them to work as slaves.they ARE CRUEL, not the factory owners.who is to blame? THE POOR! THEY are irresponsible.
The reason why the cycle of poverty continues is because poor people keep having kids they can't afford. The poor parents have kids, force the kids to work as slaves so the kids can bring in money to take care of the parents, these kids become retirement plans for their parents. When these kids grow up to be adults, they'll continue to be poor, so these kids will have children of their own, and that's how the cycle of poverty continues. It's because the poor keep having children they can't afford. To break the cycle of poverty, the poor need to stop having children.
Thanks for this information. I believe if we collectively raise our voice to stop this injustice, heads will turn. As customers we can also stop buying these perfumes, to teach these Companies a lesson.
After watching this, I dont think it is about child labour. The root of the issue here is corporate greed because if the adults were paid better, they wouldn't want/need their children to work. Pay them a decent amount so they can be the breadwinners, for heaven's sake.
The root cause is poverty. About 30% of Egyptians live below the poverty line.
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I ran a successful business in South Africa and sold this at a profit some 10 years later. Had I exploited my staff I would definitely have made more money. Fact is, it’s easy to take advantage of workers who have little to no bargaining power. I think the comment about corporate greed is a fair one. The bigger the company, the more likely they are to put numbers above people.
Agree... Child labour comes from unfair paid issues between adults
Well said
I agree, parents would not need children to work if they made a living wage. So sad this world we have created.
A dollar a day for a mother and her three children who are slaving away the whole night. Its truly pathetic and grossly unethical!!!
@@margaret-yr6uh regardless it's disgusting
@@margaret-yr6uhomg you didn't just say that
Bible tells the root of all evil is love for money
When Lord Yeshua comes this evil and sin will never exist.
I wait for Jesus Christ,
My heart aches for all children and people of the world.
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Corporate greed at its ugliest. I hope millions watch this documentary.
Same clothes and shoes made by millions poor children in Bangladesh. Disgusting
@@sarajesusismyking and? oit is their own parents who force them to work.THEY ARE POOR,they should NOT HAVE KIDS!
I'll start not purchasing this brands 😕
Amen
Vote blue 💙
The little girl saying “I hate jasmine” shattered my heart. I usually don’t wear perfumes because my nose is super sensitive to fragrance. But after smelling a jasmine tree in person, I bought my first perfume last year, the jasmine one from Gucci. I fell in love with love with the tree and it hurts me to know that a little girl across the globe has such a distaste for something so beautiful because of what she’s forced to do.
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Me too. Actually young women don't like Jasmine in middle East. Unless you are married and stuff...
Her mom forced her tho…
@@OliviaReighof course!! It's the mum's fault for making her go!! I think you were watching a different documentary if that's your thought on it!
@@helenburrows3585 I mean you can remind me whr I miss the employer asked or force the mom to work with her kids... No offense
I hope BBC will check up on these pickers after this documentary is aired to make sure that the factories DO NOT retaliate against the poor mother and her children. Judging by the factories' responses in this docu, I worry about what will happen to the mother and children, and pray that things will improve for them,
No American would be able to sleep or eat after checking up on these innocent souls. God created balance for some reason but it obviously exists drastically
Of course they're going to be retaliated against. BBC will bring back to broadcast on that as well. How do you know if they aren't just a different type exploiter? I'm not saying that getting the story out isn't important work but I'm curious as to what if any profit is made off of these stories and how much goes back, if any, towards helping the victims directly and indirectly. Just a thought!
👍 that will happen. Cruelty has no bounds.😢
Facts
Nope. Usually this kind of exposure attracts people who try to help, pay kids school, and donate food. A lot of people around the world get triggered by these things and usually they help.
Luxury brand perfumes pay high salaries, use Hollywood actresses to advertise, and open stores in prime locations around the world. The cost of perfume will be very low. When I look at these working children, I find it very foolish to buy expensive perfumes.😢
I cannot afford expensive scents, but this is eye opening. In Bulgaria, rose oil is imported for perfumes as well. I wonder if Bulgaria uses child labor as well.
They pay models actress a lot of money but don’t pay the ones that work hard not what they deserve. The system is full of hypocrisy. Avoid any brand you can cause 99% have dirt going on
@@cocoaorange1 The biggest companies probably do that (also the ones selling cheaper perfumes)
I hate this world 😢
I heard that the fragrance itself is not expensive but packaging and bottles form the price
Perfumes are utterly expensive. But they can’t even compensate the farmers well?
Need a choclate like society where guidelines for paying farmers to produce gudlines
Even if you pay the farmers well, are the farmers going to pay the harvesters fairly? And there are middlemen at the collection centers in the chain.
i had no idea the perfume industry was the same as fashion and cosmetics .. is there any brand that doesn't involve child labor/underpayment ?
Anything that you can track back. Like local herbal perfumes. Fair trades companies and so...
Maybe locally made!
Nope. Not when they are in 3rd world countries. They can get away with just about anything outside the US.
Welcome to capitalism
its in every major industry, why would it surprise you?
Designer perfumes are often sold for 5000%, 6000% profit relative to manufacturing cost. That fact alone is enough reason to steer clear.
Also worth noting with this mention of a perfume costing $1 to bottle, is this is only achievable by these large conglomerates who can buy in ridiculously large quantities. As soon as you start looking at smaller perfume houses, especially those that are independent and working at a much smaller scale, that cost very quickly rises.
they are charging for the idea that went into developing the fragrance. We have the choice to buy the cheaper options
@@MD-01 It's fine if you think the salaries of marketing people and executives are the justification. I'd take a Marxist view on this one and say it's bourgeois nonsense and gullible consumerism.
@@thomHD I don’t think anything. lol. I’m just saying we have the choice. We can buy cheaper option if we want to.
Buying cheaper option or not doesnt matter. what really matters is the person who pay the pickers, should increase the pickers' pay. Wage of the pickers in that labor market is obviously oppressed...
I work in this industry {retail} and find this to be a disgrace, no mother should be forced to sacrifice her children to feed her family. Shame to the whole chain for knowingly participating in child labor and making half assed excuses for it!
Disgusted 😥💔
Very true 😢
and did the owner of the perfume FORCE THE WOMAN TO HAVE KIDS? did the designe who owns the perfume made a poor man have sex with woman and have kids THE "MAN" CAN?T SUPPORT? who is the cruel one ? the poor,they are cruel and irresponsible.
@@bambieyedgirl7846 why? the poor have kid after kid they can´t feed.WHO forces them to have a good time in bed with a woman? not the rich,not the owner of the businesss.
I don’t think she’s forced to make a 5 year old and 8 year old child work. I understand she’s in poverty but that’s unacceptable and you can’t blame the industry for people deciding to have children if they’re already struggling financially.
This family of pickers were being poorly treated and paid. And now after this report, I bet they lost their job. My heart broke when that little girl said "I hate jasmine". How traumatizing is that. No child should go through this.
mine doesn´t break. the parents have 10 kids in poverty. THEY ARE THE CRUEL ONES, not the owners of businesses.
@@Sarie977 Yup fault of the parents
@@Sarie977 You really are ignorant!
@@Sarie977They don’t have access to birth control. Have some empathy.
@@Sarie977You are heartless and need to educate yourself about poverty. Arrogance at its finest.
Famous perfume brands MUST support these kids' education - it's the least they can do
Are you delusional? These are Muslim girls. You think their families want them in school. I grew up in Algeria. Algeria is over 99 percent Muslim. Girls are supposed to get married as soon as they menstruate and produce more Muslim babies.
You western people think you know how the world works but dont know a thing.
They won't even pay them properly. Schooling and any care, they will not do. They need to pay their parents a living wage😮💨
Why? It's their government job, not a company
@@sozbdulrhmanli3300 take off that stupid headscarf.
@@sozbdulrhmanli3300 you obviouly lack any morality and have zero empathy for these people being exploited.
These companies make huge profits yet don't have the humanity and decency to pay a fair living wage to the parents so their children don't have to work and have proper nutrition.
People like you make me nauseous!!!!
I am going to stop buying perfume. I have more than enough and I feel so ashamed not knowing what those kids went through just to give us the fragrance. The corporate greed is just crazy. Wish more can be done to help the kids.
As a person grew up in poor family ,I have to tell you the truth:you are helping them to earn their food by buying perfumes.
Unfortunately everything we buy in the West is made somehow by third-world labour practices (including child labour): perfume, chocolate, coffee, clothes, China-made products, etc. Sadly, there's a reason why a lot of import products are sometimes cheaper than those made in one's respective country.
@@吳家有女初長成 would need to buy directly from the poor family
@@吳家有女初長成you're right
@@吳家有女初長成 Really? Aren't we just enabling the corporate greed and exploitation if we do buy the expensive perfumes?
Not buying perfumes can't be a solution. There need to be strict laws and strict audits.
Money buys them unfortunately, that's the hard truth.
Boycotting is always a first step…it’s a start!
No matter the industry, child labour is driven by poverty.
racism
Driven by Capitalism
&corporate greed
@@constanceakashamaat no. the poor have kids they can´t feed,they send them to work,the kids will have no studies ,so they will be slaves for ever.
@@sadimasson8734 do the rich force the poor to have 12 kids per woman? kids they can´t feed? or is it the poor who are cruel and irresponsible whoa have a good time in bed and do not care a child will be born?
What happens to these people after this documentary?
I hope BBC supports them, because they are profiting from these stories. And they didn’t blur the interviewees faces.
Really.
Agree
I'm pretty sure they would have given them money. I would have out of my pocket if I was there
I was thinking thr same.. I'm worried about that mother and her Kids
Very informative.
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yeah, that's what i wanted to say , they literally have an inappropriate BGM audio level
Thanks - I had to look up what "BGM" means to understand your comment, but you saved me writing about this.
Just what I wanted to say.
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No it was not a "Audio Glitch" BBC, it's your low quality "Journalism" that you fund by abusing the elderly and vulnerable by sending things to their door. These funds could of been used by actual journalists belonging us the stories as they should be, not as a half arsed by product of extortion.
Isn’t it sad that everything that we seem to love has child labour involved in it and we have no idea what it takes for that to be sold to us? Sad.
Fantastically informative but as some of those interviewed point out, the real problem is the price paid to the jasmine growers. The family featured will not be able to survive if their children don't work but the mother's earnings remain the same. It How can the fragrance companies justify paying the lowest possible rate to those who pick and produce while paying 25 times more on advertising?
the poor should stop having kids.
Ruthless capitalism and excessive consumerism?
@@anukritisrivastava2107 But most important cheap labor ids offered by the POOR ,they sell their kids.Go to the source,WHY is there there so much cheap labor?Because the poor are cruel,they happily ave sex AND DO NOT CARE that a child they can´t feed will be born.THE poor are cruel.VERY cruel.THEY can´t even give their kids a glass of pure water,let alone food or send them to school.
Without advertising, the product wouldn't sell. If the product doesn't sell, then there'd be no business. If there is no business, then there's no jobs for anyone. No jobs mean it's worse for the poor. No job means no food to eat.
That's why advertising is so important.
@@sesspessYeah, only the rich should be allowed to populate the earth. Great solution.
My heart hurts seeing those little children 😢
why? the fault is of th parents, not the owner of the business.the poor keep having gkids they can´t feed,it is their responsability to feed their kids and send them to school...
@@sesspess do you know much about life in such poor communities? As it seems you don’t.
@@zuzannanowicka6348 Yes I do. That is the reason I comment.I´ve known many poor persons who just keep getting pregnant. NOW -with internet-they figured they can actually sell their children to foreigners or as work slaves.BEFORE it happened as well but now it´s really esay to find buyers.THE POOR ARE CRUEL!
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I grew up very poor, lived in a hut, slept on a dirt floor, no indoor toilet, barely any food to eat, always hungry. As a young child, I wished my parents didn't create me or born me into a world of suffering, so @sesspess is correct.
The poor should not have kids they can't afford. If you are poor, why create children and bring them into the world only for them to suffer and struggle?? Why do that to an innocent child. Children didn't ask to be born into poverty. If children could choose a parent or a family to be born into, we wouldn't choose a poor one.
Poor people are the cruel ones, who create children they can't afford. A business never forced my mom to have kids. A big corporation never forced my mom to bring me into the world. It's my parents who did that. It's my parents who brought me into a life of poverty. So yes, poor people should not have kids.
@@terriesmith2616 What I mean is that I agree with you, but I also understand people who do and why they do, just to not demonise them
Gold, crystal, perfume etc, all these materials involve child work.😢
That won't change no matter how much its publicised.
Garment construction/ sewing too
Every industry does most likely, but for sure hard intensive labor like farming and agriculture/manufacturing
Batteries
Not to mention chocolate and coffee 😢
The jasmine harvesting season runs from June to November in Egypt's Gharbiya region, which accounts for over half of the global jasmine supply.
During this period, a large number of children are employed to pick the fragrant jasmine flowers from widespread bushes before sunrise.
This cheap labor force enables the production of jasmine concrete and absolutes, which are exported worldwide for use in renowned perfume brands.
Bulgari, whose perfume Splendida Jasmin Noir features a rich jasmine scent.
Dior, with jasmine being a prominent note in fragrances like J'adore and Jasmin des Anges.
Yves Saint Laurent, whose Mon Paris perfume has an intense jasmine heart. Tom Ford, with jasmine being
a key component in fragrances like Jasmin Rouge.
Also Jasmine picked by child laborers in Egypt are used by suppliers of Lancôme (owned by L'Oréal) for its Idôle L'Intense perfume, and Aerin Beauty (owned by Estée Lauder) for its Ikat Jasmine and Limone Di Sicilia fragrances.
Thanks, that is so informative ❤
@@zuzannanowicka6348 🙏
and don't forget the best-selling perfume in the world: chanel 5
Shame on all the companies.
Great breakdown! This comment should be much higher
Keep up the good work. We need to pressure these brands to do what's right for the marginalised. A dollar a day! it's absurd.
no. offer and demand.too many kids born in poverty are foced to work because the father can not control himself and had 12 kids per woman.THAT IS NOT THE FAULT of the business,it is of the man who is poor and has kids!
We did a story on the cotton trade back in the early 2000's, same thing. Cocoa trade, mining trade, fashion, you name it, they exploit workers.
Im getting sick ! This Bloodsucker need to be Stopt !
Thank you for showing this.
As a person who loves perfumes, this is eye-opening. I always thought the jasmine note in perfumes are man-made, you know, concocted using different chemicals to simulate the smell of jasmine, to cut cost..
Same here I thought all was fake 😢
check out 7 virtues perfume - ethically sourced and pays all suppliers very well.
If this is not addressed the right way, those flower picking jobs will be gone and it will probably be more just synthetic jasmine in the future. L'Oreal and Estee Lauder may decide to ban natural Jasmine from their brands, but it will be noticeable in the reduction of appeal and quality.
Me too😢
Yes you are right. The majority of Jasmine used in perfumery is not real Jasmine it is synthetic. It's only some of the bigger brands like Chanel and Dior amongst others who use real Jasmine absolute because it is far too expensive and not financially viable. I am a perfumer myself and I very rarely use real Jasmine absolute because of the cost. So not all of this documentary is truthful. Most perfumers in the industry use synthetic Jasmine that has been created in a lab. Including myself. Not to mention that Jasmine is a highly restricted material in the industry. So we all opt at finding a synthetic that is not restricted so much to make that special Jasmine perfume. The solution is not the consumer who must stop buying perfume. The solution must come from the distiller who takes the flowers and makes the oils. They are the ones responsible for ethical standards in the industry. They are the ones setting the price therefore they are the ones that should be paying these families a lot more. It's disgusting and that needs to change.
Deforestation has been made in Bolivia to produce the sugarcane alcohol for this European industry. The price of one litre of alcohol is a fraction of dollar and in a perfume formulation it ranges around 90% of content.
This is real journalism! Thank you BBC for this eye opening documentary!
I don't think its the strong smell of Jasmine but the pesticides who are threatening their health 😢
The smell can actually affect someone's health especially if they are allergic to it.I am actually allergic to jasmine and don't like anything jasmine in it bse it affects me badly though I agree with you that pesticides play a big health risk too
Lool special English ppl are allergic to everything....they are a jokes!
Jasmine Essential oil is one of the most strongest smell 😂
This needs to be SHARED EVERYWHERE!
Factories should increase the prices of jasmine collected by those jasmine pickers. governments should regulate prices.They should also provide safety goggles and flashlights. Parents should not allow their kids to work.
In India? Good luck with this wish list
Even if factories increase the price it doesn't mean the workers will get paid more, there are always corrupt middle men and corporations that benefit the most. The make up industry, and big companies like Apple and tesla exploit and use child labour but they still in high demand. The parents are terrible for having kids and expecting them to work, there's a saying it takes a community to raise a child, people living in these area should all come together and be educated on how to stop this, the govt of these countries should also provide education for kids so they can have a better future. And if you in a position to help then help kids better there future then make a difference by helping. I donate money to a organization that provides pad for girls living in rural areas, many girls miss school because they miss school during there periods, has a women I find it heart breaking, cos when women are educated they become empowered and are to do more for there kids and community
Went help. North Africa, India and the Middle East have a very different perspective on slavery and using children. Only possible way to overcome this is to grow in different moral countries, but the costs will be prohibitive.
They have flashlights.
it's easier said than done, after many years, the price is at the stabilizing point, if you change the price at 1 point of production, it will trickle down the whole system
When you buy a $100 bottle of perfume, most of that money goes on distribution and advertising:
Distribution $35
Advertising $25
VAT $19
Perfume Profit $15
Packaging $3
Manufacturing $1
That leaves $2 for the flower pickers and the oil producers. There’s the problem! They must have a larger piece of the pie.
Have you done a film on Cobalt and the solar and e-car industry? Child labour, unregulated business in the Congo.... You should pick that story up too.
But how come you guys didn’t ask the Egyptian Government? You seem to have skipped them completely🤦🏽♀️
Would that have changed the fact that the perfume industry stinks of exploitation?
yep easier to blame the horrible "west" not the local government... There are poor ppl in europe who live under 100 euros a month in poor parts of east europe, but you still dont see that there. There is a demographic crisis though. Egypt is not a poor country. Its like blaming the west for poor treatment of women in muslim countries..
No one blame the west here , the blame is on companies and there supply chain and of course the Egyptian government @@KOldridge1
I hope that someday, there will be a movie about this to shake off the world.
As consumers we need to stop buying perfumes. I admit I do love perfumes and after watching this documentary I will not be purchasing anymore. We need to be aware of the consequences and effects of mass consumption. I pray for children and families that are suffering all over the world.
That's an unrealistic expectation. It's like asking people to stop using shampoos or soaps, because most of the beauty products are chemically engineered. All waste goes into land where ecological disaster is happening, and we just don't see it. Just look at how many products have perfume in them. Laundry, room sprays, candles, shampoos, body wash... you name it. People just love fragrance because it's "aromatherapy". But it's unnatural scents, chemically engineered.
You don't have to stop using perfume altogether, but just know which houses take care in the way they run their business. There are many family-owned houses who are completely independent and do not go through commercial mass production flow.
Me too. I will not get a perfume, fragrance or Cologne again and asked that others don't get me one either. We grow lemon verbena, rosemary, lavender, lovage. We can use those to fragrance our clothes and that's enough. Not supporting huge business that tell us how successful they made profits...
If people stop buying perfume the families won't get paid ⛳
@@nichegoseberazdvatriit’s very easy and cheap to make your own perfume. And so is shampoo and soaps and is also better in terms of ingredients cos u can make them free of harmful chemicals. Problem is majority of people are too lazy. And even those who complain they don’t have much money still spend money buying expensive perfumes and shampoos 😂.
@@JT-oh4eu I would love to learn how I can make them. People who take time to master the skill probably don't have 12-hour a day job, and it's not a priority for them. I would love to make my own clothes, perfume, shampoo, build my own house free from led. lol I could take time to learn to do all that. But I also need to be jobless and spend time to learn all these things. Also one needs to buy ingredients to make perfume, and know which combinations will not cause ingredients to go stinky lol
One thing we as consumers can do is to NOT buy perfumes.
Yeah the problem is the people who are buying lots of these are stupid rich people that are never gonna care about these issues. They aren't the types to watch a documentary on bbc and give a shit.
It’s not only the perfume industry. Those who live in poverty are exploited. Greedy companies take advantage of those without bargaining power.
If we don’t buy then what? What if all consumers stop buying and then industry dies, the families who rely on this job will be even more impoverished. We need laws to ensure they are compensated fairly and no ethical infringement happened in the sourcing process.
Except indians. Imagine the BO
pretty much everything involves exploitation, including makeup products, clothing, gold, battery technology, advanced technology. it's impossible to avoid.
I never knew jasmine oil came from Egypt, I figured it was an Asian country. In Chicago, many Asian American store owners sell jasmine plants, they costs between $15-22 dollars. I adore the scent of jasmine, but this documentary opens my eyes.
Educating ourselves in many things taken for granted can be very mind blowing.
Thank you BBC. Diagram on screen at 20:17, showing where money for perfume goes, shocked me. "Magie Noire" by Lancôme costs round €100 for eau de toilette, I'm sure people who buy that wouldn't object to fairer wages for pickers and others in the supply chain. EU is sort of facing in the right direction but pressure is needed...
The owners in Egypt will not pay fair wages. That is the choke point.
Shame UK is out of the EU.
The Egyptian doctor didn't seem surprised that a 10 year old was working 6 hours a night.
who is to blame? the father who is poor and keeps having his fun in bed with women.
I was surprised myself. Like, is it considered normal?
@@LizzAbade They couldn't be bothered. As long as they make heaps of money! God will deal with them.
What can she really do about it? She might be a doctor, but does she have any real power to change the situation? All she can do is care for them as best as possible.
Where is the father?? Why isn‘t he taking care of his wife and three kids? God bless and help these mothers and children ❤
He could be enslaved in a different field. Many scenarios play in mind and I can't make wrong assumptions about people. God bless the mothers and the children who do everything to get by.
I was thinking the same, although it isn't the main topic. Because women don't have children just out of air
@@AmenProletar who cares? he would be treated as slave as well. we are here interested in not exploiting children, mister!!!!!
Most likely with his other wife and family. It's the sad truth of poverty in Egypt.
Ahmed Mesilhy, the head of the Child Defense Network, has highlighted the grim reality of child labor in Egypt. He states that child labor is primarily linked to poverty and the deteriorating economic conditions of families
So sad makes me think twice before buying another perfume
😢 💔
The supply chain is key here. The big perfume houses are not the ones paying the flower pickers. The problem is that these flower pickers are independent contractors who sell their flowers at a rate set by the buyers who make the oil. The Egyptian government needs to set the minimum price paid for the flowers and the oil too. This would go a long way to protect the people and their products from being exploited. That said, the minimum wage in Egypt is only EGP3,500 per month or $73.
Exactly my thoughts. It’s not the perfume houses setting the prices, it’s the Egyptian government not caring about its peoples standards of living.
they have to set regulations on that
it will be a big help for there people to have at least minimum wage and help create jobs
egypts economy is very 😢
inflation
devaluation of currency
its really heart breaking here
Absolutely disgusting I stopped buying these big brands a long time ago I make my own fragrance
Isnt that the same thing? You are buying your Jasmine extrait from these same people too
@@gezimsmajlaj3879 Not if she buys lockaly.
eco chic! go, you!
That’s great 😊 Any tips for those looking to do the same?
@@gezimsmajlaj3879not true. I make my own perfume too and buy organic essential oils and a few that are fragrance oils that are sourced from small family owned businesses. You just need to research and you’ll find it. It’s still a lot cheaper than buying a branded one and everyone asks me what perfume I wear cos they think it’s gorgeous 😊
It is inappropriate that A. Fakhry and Co. uses an independent collectors and farmers loophole in legislation and regulations. It is precisely that loophole that leads to the exploitation and violation of the pickers' human rights.
Exactly. They should be employees.
this is the reality of what these “gig” economies are trying to do, sidestep the protections and legal regulations keeping them from exploiting their workforce.
we need more worker protections at every level, in every corner of the globe.
The girl with Jasmine allergies visiting health clinic starting at 3:00 to pick Jasmine. The moment she awakens her eyes are burning! Yet She’s a child who is working long night shifts, all companies and people profiteering of these children are going to have to answer to the biggest Boss Upstairs
Start with her mother. Who the f takes their sick child to work?! Then continue with the Egyptian government.
Dior is not responsible for these families. They pay the price of the market for the product they buy. Egipt has a corrupt government and has been keeping its people in poverty. Imagine if the picking of jasmine is taken away from these folks. How are they gonna make money to feed their families?
I feel like a lot of low wage employees lost their job from this documentary. I am thankful for the information and I will never look at a bottle of perfume the same. I hope the community that this family lives in doesn’t cast them out for shedding light on their suffering.
Thank you as always BBC 🙏🏾
All that work for a measly dollar?? This is exploitation. So terribly sad
I am so glad right now that I have a fragrance allergy and don't use perfumes at all. When I saw that the pickers only make less than $2.00 for hours of work I was flabbergasted, especially when a lot of these perfumes cost hundreds of dollars, its not like they are being sold for like $5.
Farmers should be more protected by the government. Unfortunately so many governments in Africa do not do that. I do not see how hard it is to pay $5 per kilo. Such a shame.
Great journalism. Thank you.
The involvement is not only limited to perfumes with luxury brands on it, it involved the normal household keeping agents with brand tags as well. Like room/air fresheners and cosmetics as well. such an irony that humans demand making human slave to human to this certain level of extortion & greediness. thank you so much BBC world for this coverage.
and? there is a surplus of labor. and why? THE poor are cruel and keep having kids.
@@sesspessstop commenting under each comment showing HUMANITY and criticizing the poor people and having the audacity to call them cruel when heartless ppl like you are cruel and just bootlick these corrupted companies. YOUR A MONSTER WHO HAS NO EMPATHY. Take some accountability
and you really think that with the price of most airfreshners you are getting even a drop of natural Jasmine in there? Dream on!
No one is blaming the mothers who abuse their children like this? They are the once abusing their children working them as slaves! These mothers must be charged!
Every where it’s the same no matter where ,the big companies make the big bukks and the little guys get paid peanuts, every where it’s the same story
Big companies should be held accountable for this
If you think perfume is bad you should investigate the minerals used to make cell phones. Horrifying.
They have, and there is an equally excellent documentary about that too
This happens in lots of industries..not only in perfume industry..
The components for batteries for electric cars..they are also searched by kids (Madagascar) in mines, because there are very narrow holes..
Great doco, but some of the music overpowers the speaking so it's hard to hear
$1.50 for all that? Can they please not, that's just so... oh my god!!! I hate this world, how can they be treating fellow people this low😭
yep I cant imagine living for a $1 a day////// even if Egypt is not the most expensive country in the world but still one us dollar is ridiculous, they cant live normal with that amount 30-50 usd per month for a fam. of four is crzy.....It is so inhumane. That for some people to live good others have to suffer. And the thing is that that people from developed countries dont want this to happen but greedy corporation only thing abt. themselves and money/
Women want perfumes, creams, gold, diamonds, plastic surgeries ..... there is no end to vanity. Now, men are into it as well. Smh.
I’m allergic to fragrances, so I don’t consume many cosmetics, but it makes me mad the amount of money they pay to actresses to promote their perfumes but won’t pay a fair wage to the pickers. 🤬
In most of the countries child labor is linked to poverty or lack of financial stability. It's a shame that even in the 21st century, many of our children in different parts of the world undergo a miserable life. Exploitation of our children continue in different forms. It is high time to abolish child labor in any forms by ensuring their rights to live a dignified life. Good documentary. 👏
This is the behaviour of the elites
Bravo BBC. This is journalism.
Okay. But isn't this more the fault of the Egyptian government rather than the luxury brands? Right now, they are spending $100 billion to build a capital far away from the people, instead of spending that on modernizing their industries. The first one to turn a blind eye on this are the Egyptian bureaucrats.
The reason to build a new capital far away from the people is to prevent another Arab Spring! It'll be difficult for the citizens to match to the government and demand changes. Egyptian president was a former general, creating laws to prosper the citizens doesn't seem to be his priority. The middle class Egyptians seems to like him
Profit over people has always been the corporate model. Extracting as much profit for as little input.
I agree that it should be the priority of the Egyptian government to stop this modern form of slavery. Otherwise, What do you have a governement for?. Unfortunately, global economies work like this one way or another, it's simply criminal
Yes. Probably some sum going the politicians pockets too
True. Maybe it should be grown elsewhere. Egypt is a country that has wasted most of their income from an unending flow of tourism in just corruption and have little to show from all the years and years of visitors leaving them a lot of income.
The thing with these situations is that, that mother and her children are "independent contractors". I assume that make the mother directly and solely responsible for the child labour. There is nothing really to push the masters to do anything
It's so sad, but what's even more baffling is, as adults, when you know you can't afford to raise more than 1 child properly, what gives you the right to bring more life on this earth when you can't promise or give them a better life?
Exactly. Sadly it many parts of the world women have no choice on if, when or how many children they will have because men control them.
I will have no respect to corporates and models promoting the brand
If the fragrance houses weren't paying Natalie Portman and co millions of £s to appear in their advertisements, perhaps more of the revenue could get lower down the supply chain. I, as someone who owns lots of perfume, have never ever bought a bottle of scent based on a celebrity advertising it. I doubt I'm the only one.
They're doing it because it works.
This!
They assume we all care about actors and actresses. Quit the opposite.
That is consumer's preference, either sponsor large lifestyle brands and corporations where you find one set of value component ratios, or chose from smaller niche brands that do not waste their budget on expensive distribution and promotion costs, but rather on a better quality of juice.
Sadly it's one of these cases where there are so many factors at play. Especially when you're dealing with a lengthy supply chain that crosses geographical, cultural and financial borders, as is often the case in perfumery given that there is a desire from consumers to want products containing expensive and luxury ingredients.
Even if Givaudan/Firmenich etc were to dictate to the jasmine factories how much they should pay the suppliers, it doesn't then mean that the suppliers would have obligation to pay the independent farmers any more money. It could also mean that the jasmine farm owners could dictate the farmers pay them a larger sum for the right to pick from their farm if larger pay created a competitive work force.
On top of this, it seems so much of the issue with how much the farmers are being paid is dictated by the dwindling value of the Egyptian Pound. The value of the pound fell drastically again this year to the point where it is now only worth a fifth of what it was 4 years ago. So even with the amount that is being paid by fragrance companies, the Egyptian part of the supply chain is now only seeing a fifth of what they once made even a short while ago. This then creates the issue where those on the poverty line who want enough money to live, will bring their children along to pick with them, creating the issue of child slavery. It should be on the likes of Givaudan to set a baseline of value, so if currency value decreases, they would just have to drastically increase the price they pay for the material to compensate, and the end companies such as Estee Lauder would need to accept that this will mean a small reduction in profits if they want to sell a product containing Night Blooming Jasmine, or they can increase the price of the end product, but that could see them with an even larger reduction in profits, so that's up to them as a business to decide how best to price their products.
Thank you for this detailed comment!
*Ooh my God I remember the Jasmine flower just falling off our garden tree and all the scent would scatter inside our house. Approximately 70% of houses in the Middle East would have the tree grown in their house* 😅❤
This breaks my heart
One dollar a day 😞💔
I think that it can happen in many industries, not just perfume industry. Due to the influence of globalisation, supply chains have been transmitted to many developing countries to reduce cost. Secondly, these families have rights to make their children rest if they think health of children is more important.
It's not only about greedy corporations, it's also about corrupt government in Egypt and other countries where the illegal use of child labor is very common.
The background music is too loud
The same story happens in quartz and gemstones.
Yes. That is why i closed my gem stones store. It is all maffia.
Child labour free stones are hard to get for years.
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I agree with you and I believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don’t know who agrees with me but either way I recommend either real estate or bitcoin and stocks..
I keep wondering how people earn money in financial markets, i tried trading on my own made a huge loss and now I'm scared of investing more…
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Thirty years ago, while on a business trip to Cairo as a telecom executive, I had the opportunity to dine with local colleagues and friends. During our conversation, the troubling issue of child labor in the jasmine fields was brought to my attention. Jasmine, commonly used in both men's and women's fragrances, left a lasting impression on me. From that moment on, I decided to forgo cologne, choosing instead to rely on my natural pheromones-a choice that has served me quite well ever since.
20:17 Where the money goes…
Looking at the numbers, $19 of every $100 bottle of perfume sold is Vat. Perhaps some of that money could be used to help those seasonal workers so their children don’t have to work. The government is already getting the tax from the perfume companies profits. Just a thought…
True but the greedy state wants the 19% from the consumer not from the company.
I do not understand! These children arent allowed to be children. This breaks my heart. My children never knew how good they really had it. Kids today dont know.
Thank you for sharing.
No need to worry. Now corporations will increase the price by 10$ so that consumers could pay harvesters a better salary.
I shared this on Facebook. We, the public, need to be aware. This is so sad to me. How ungrateful we are for what we have when we grumble when actually we are very blessed.
I'm from the 80s and I have been hearing about child slaves/labour since the 90s. Will it ever stop?
What happens to the children and their parent’s, if the ban is enforced? This is a complex issue… having lived in a country that uses child labor for seven years, these parents are dependent on these jobs.
I think the problem is that despite the end product being expensive, that is not going down stream of the supply chain. The perfume industry is exploitative, and thats why these people are dependent on child labor.
The problem is purely on those who profit off the product, and uses these products, either knowingly pr unknowingly. The problem is with us, in the first world country
I am in the trade and you can't imagine how much loreal is mad about this documentary even if they are not directly targeted. the truth is after this documentary the world will keep purchasing perfume and loreal's business will keep increasing
Corporate greed a consumerism. Both sickening. And people are not angry at these multinational companies, they would hate each other first...
As long as corporate greed is driven by shareholder value, nothing will change.
Interesting that they chose to focus only on jasmine flower. What about synthetic fragrances? How about chemicals that we don't know how ingredients were made? Can they make us sick or increase our risk of cancer?
Yes, they can along with synthetic airfreshners, washing detergents with fragrances, etc etc All very unhealthy, especially for kids.
maybe these big brands in the perfume industry can contribute back the profits they get to the flower picking community in egypt... donations in the form of education schools for children, health care for children involved in the jasmine flower industry
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You wish. That will never happen
What’s really wild is that despite knowing all of this people will still continue to purchase perfumes because in reality we don’t care since we the consumers are not really “affected” unless it happened to us and our children
And very sadly I do agree with you. Most people don’t give a shit. They act like they do but they don’t
If you two care so much, why don't you invite these poor families to live with you and pay everything for them?
Why not do that? Since you two care so much. Give the poor money, pay everything for their families and give them a house to live in, pay all their bills. Please go do that, otherwise it means you don't care.
the problem is EVERYTHING has child labor. your phone, the battery, clothes. it's impossible to avoid unless you make everything yourself
@@katielee7364it isn't. if you buy things only once in awhile, buy second hand or refurbished, or find hand made goods/local businesses (online etsy is good) you can avoid it
Most people don't know and won't know... And they fall for the company's ethical sourcing lies. Far more people see the companies advertisements than this documentary. But I think most people just don't know, and yes, some part of the people that know might not care but I think most will.
Are people really commenting about the background music? It's hard to fathom. Meanwhile, we're spending our money on perfumes that underpay their suppliers and use child labor. That's a far more serious concern. At this point, it's clear that everyone is profiting from Africa for their own gain, a shame!
That's gonna make a loooot of people angry!!!!
Good.
zendaya and emma stone were likely paid huge sums of money as endorsers of these jasmine-based perfumes.
Such a low blow for them to take blood money! Heartless “people”. How evil of them to profit off of such poor innocent mothers
Thanks to the BBC for making such a report, let me know the working environment at the bottom of the perfume industry chain. In addition to the legislation mentioned in the video, the luxury goods company and masters assume the corresponding social responsibility, commissioning an independent body to review the more transparent industry chain. I think the local government also needs to strengthen the construction of infrastructure and enrich the employment options of local residents. What I see in this video is that flower pickers have no better source of income than gathering jasmine flowers.
In addition, I would also like to say that $300 perfume is still too far from my life, and this is the problem of the gap between rich and poor.
Damn thanks BBC for this, hope things will get better
there is children´s labor because the poor have kids they can not feed.if they didn´t have kids they can´t feed ,there would not be so much cheap and replaceable workers.THE poor keep having kids they can´t feed,they send them to work as slaves.they ARE CRUEL, not the factory owners.who is to blame? THE POOR! THEY are irresponsible.
This woman have 5 kids!! Even with two good earning adults it will be struggle to feed them
@@alexandrabykhan2998 so you are ok with the kids being slaves! ok,great. not my problem.they are cruel THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE KIDS!
@@alexandrabykhan2998 precisely, if she didn´t have any ,it would be great.her parents had no right to have kids either.but the poor are cruel
The reason why the cycle of poverty continues is because poor people keep having kids they can't afford.
The poor parents have kids, force the kids to work as slaves so the kids can bring in money to take care of the parents, these kids become retirement plans for their parents.
When these kids grow up to be adults, they'll continue to be poor, so these kids will have children of their own, and that's how the cycle of poverty continues. It's because the poor keep having children they can't afford.
To break the cycle of poverty, the poor need to stop having children.
@@terriesmith2616 EXACTLY! Governments all over the world should make them barren.ALSO many of these cultures-even applaud. Rape...
This is so sad! The perfume industry us so exploitative. No child should ever gave to go through this
Thanks for this information. I believe if we collectively raise our voice to stop this injustice, heads will turn.
As customers we can also stop buying these perfumes, to teach these Companies a lesson.
One should also write to the companies and tell them why one is no longer going to buy their scents.