Clarota was up front about his desire to rejoin his fellow ilithids and the Overbrain is in control of that fellowship. I fully expected Clarota to turn on them if given the opportunity. Truthfully anyone should have known better than to trust the creature that views you as part of the lunch menu.
I doubt Clarota was in control. The Elder Brain probably reasserted control and forced him to turn. Segregated Mind Flayers have been known to chill out more when not connected to an Elder Brain.
@@SirDankleberry I know nothing of the lore, but this exactly what I was thinking. Clarota probably genuinely had good intentions, but as soon as he was reconnected to the overbrain he lost his own volition and became part of the "hive".
1:17:45 Mercers reaction here completely blew me away. If they didn't kill that mindflayer there he would have had to kill pike and he would have hated it. He was the only one on the table who knew that attack would be instkill and was probably worried about how to break it to them. That sigh of relief was so genuine.
That whole fight I was like "What are you doing?! Save the cleric!" Saving Pike would have been my first priority (supposing I wasn't on door-sealing duty), and had it been done early enough, would have let her restore Kima to bring another character into the fight. The fact that the whole party seemed to not notice that their cleric was about to have her brains sucked from her skull was both stunning and terrifying, only for them to scramble and pull it off at the last moment.
@@MFZBitch exactly!!! after he revealed that pike would've died from that attack, we all realized he let liam make the sneak attack damage bc he didn't want to go through killing pike again. that was nuts.
Oh yeah! Definitely! That's what makes him such a good DM. He's not "DM against the players", he's playing the game right along side his friends! He's telling a story. Hos job is to lay out the parts of the story the players can't see. The job of the DM is not to fight the player's characters, but to tell a story and let the dice decide whether a player's character dies or not. It is not up to the DM to decide that, it is all in the Luck of the Dice. A GOOD DM, is hoping the players triumph over the challenges He or She sets before their players. The nerve wracking moments... hit the GOOD DM just as hard as they do the players. D&D, above all else... is about telling and playing out a story, and epic tale, an oddessy of literature. D&D was never meant to spreadsheets and number crunching... it is meant to spark the imagination, and tell a fantastic tale. Mr. Matt Mercer is a BRILLIANT story teller, and this and the fact that he understands that he WANTS his players to succeed and defeat the challenges he sets before the, makes him one of the most awesome DM's ever. :-)
The most wholesome part of that is when he says, "If *we* didn't kill him this turn he would've killed pike." It's never been Mercer against the others, he's always been one of them from the beginning and I love it so much.
I love how their whole basis for distrusting kima was that she wanted to bring the horn with her instead of destroying it, when the very first thing she said about the horn was that IT CANNOT BE DESTROYED
Pretty sure Matt played it that way just because he wanted to get the conversation to the point that the party needed to know. But yeah, it was an interesting but weird character / RP thing for the party to distrust Kima based on this misunderstanding that she might want to take the horn for herself. It was *plausible* that she was a fallen Paladin after weeks of torture, based on some of her actions, but they could have cleared this up with conversation before the big fight, and had her un-stoned for the whole post-K'Varn fight.
@@Peter_Cordes Marisha is so fucking annoying with the whole thing. She completely trusted a fucking MIND FLAYER and was willing to go with him against a paladin who they had little reason to distrust. And when everyone else wanted to unfreeze Kima she was constantly going against it. It's like she randomly decided she didn't like her and nothing that could be done would gain Keyleth's trust.
@@Peter_Cordes Yeah, I mean the way that half the group was so paranoid, trying to assign motivations to Kima and everyone assumed various things when they could have at least TALKED to her instead of just leaving her as a lawn ornament. This is one of the troubles with playing such a large group. It's also why I like to play characters with high Sense Motive. I'm not against roleplaying or debate, but I hate getting bogged down trying to outsmart the story.
@@flaminyawn (ignoring the part where by doing so you do exactly what you hate, especially if your character who is _expected_ to succeed the Sense Motive check, fails)
Percy deserves so much more love! Just the idea of a gunslinger in this party constellation is simply wonderful. That dude really ties the room together.
He's quiet but I really appreciate that he (and to a lesser degree Travis) doesn't have the need for the spotlight the rest of the players do. I like them all but they're always talking and role-playing on top of each other. Percy only butts in when he has something vital to say
@@TBLIVIN agreed. Percy comes off as the "what is best for the party, as long as we get through it unscathed.. that's good enough for me. I dont need the glory" That right there puts him as the best party member in my book. Sam and Travis are the guys that are just straight up great players. Positive, rolls with the punches without throwing a fit. Not my man crush talking or anything but I'd kill to have Travis take me under his wing and show me the d&d ropes.
In the world of magic and monsters, he fights with technology as the token human of the group. True vex and vax are half elf and thus half human but Percy is the Sokka of the group especially in the early episodes. Getting shit done with science!
Sam: "I turn him into a goat" Matt: *really freaking considering letting him do it* Orion: "It doesn't work, he has to say it" Matt, reluctantly: "yeah, I know"
Technically, the best the party could tell, Klaro'ta only ever intended to return home; Their sense intention check told them that. Last I checked, the party isn't a batch of murder-hobos who kill characters for no reason other than the voices in their head tell them to (the players logicking it so)
He was their friend, and he betrayed them. HE WAS THEIR FRIEND!!! *general angst* (if you'll pardon my appropriation of your reference with a different reference)
What do you mean I can't telekinetically try to crush a horn, do a backflip, dash, leap on to a magic carpet, cast fireball, speak with animals, and conversate in 6 seconds?
Also, last episode, when asked about telekinesis, he said he couldn't use any more sorcery points after that, then this episode, he conveniently has more.
@@Dominant_Jest yeah I remember that, also at the start of this episode he fails a throw so goes again then conveniently says 'natural 20 :)' he has done this multiple times in the past when rolling low but here it was extra obvious
I thought that as soon as I heard it too!!! Every campaign needs an adorable character who pretends to be happy all the time just to make sure others are happy and taken care of instead of them.
1:59:50 Scanlan: "I'm gonna turn into a huge pterodactyl and carry some folks." Matt: "Ok." Grog: "What?" Vex: "You can do that?!" Scanlan: "Sure, why not?"
Is it wrong of me, now knowing what I know and binge watching and giving the "huh?" eye, to wish that Scanlan/Sam said "Sure, why not. I'll use my 30 bajillion sorcerer points."
*Me, a paleozoology nerd:* Pterosaurs don't have talons like raptors birds. Should not have worked. Someone else: And the brain-eating squid people make sense?
Matt's reaction when Vex killed the mindflayer that was about to kill Pike was amazing, he really didn't wanted to kill her, Vex is a life saver. Also Percy is my fkin hero now, he controled the beholder so well, and he finished Clarota. That was just perfect.
1:34:15 "Scanlan, are you hurt?" "I'm fine, baby. How are you?" "I'm great. WEll, not really, but I'm just going to pretend I'm happy so that everybody can be okay" WOW PIKE!!
BedheadBrunette Hey, food and rent are good! Good luck, hope you still have time to sketch stuff out every now and then. Practice for upkeep lest the patterns for it decline.
just for the record: i had a character get turned to stone and spend two weeks in a bag of holding before the party found a city big enough to restore her. She was fine.
Magma Kojote anything with the bag of holding doesn’t interact with other things in the bag of holding, it’s a separate pocket dimension. I’m guessing the reason they were worried is that they wouldn’t be able to breath, but since they are stone it doesn’t matter.
"By the way guys you can break up your movement to move attack move" The look on Liam's face, like he is trying to predict the amount of math he is going to have to do in the future.
I liked the part where grog had a nightmare and said he had two testies hurting brain i laughed so hard at that one. And tour right about percys comment lol that was chefs kiss
There are so many instances of Matt's smiling, holy-shit-im-so-proud "Okay" in this episode, specifically Keyleth's Grasping Vine Trinket Towline. Watching him slowly become more and more impressed with the party's ingenuity is just a fantastic sight.
Sam: No one knew Clarota would betray us! Travis: *reading off a paper he had written* I don't trust Clarota I don't trust Clarota I don't trust Clarota I don't trust Clarota
Watching this in 2020, the fact that they treated a mind flayer with 10x the respect and trust then a NPC who is described as a folk hero and the greatest force for good in the area is both hilarious and extremely frustrating to watch.
@Isaac She’s a paladin of Bahamut, an objectively good god. Yes, she seemed to not be extremely personable and came off as a little judgmental but you have to remember; she had previously just spent weeks being brutally tortured and also traditionally paladins are kinda judgmental by nature, they are arbiters of justice and as such must judge other’s actions. Not hating on the cast at all, I just think their logic was a little silly on this one. I am happy how **(spoilers for later in Campaign 1)** the party eventually gets over that and Kima becomes one of their most trusted allies, she is one of my favorite characters in CR.
It's really silly. I blame Keyleth who suddenly rounded on her several episodes ago because she THANKED THE PARTY FOR SAVING HER LIFE. The positive is that they faced the in game consequences of befriending a clearly evil creature and implicitly trusting it for several sessions.
Thoritorium That part was pretty painful. It seemed like she was randomly trying WAY too hard to introduce moral ambiguity into a plot where there was none.
Omg right?? I think any normal person rolling this bad and being this unable to take any actions would at least grow a little bit of healthy frustration haha! But she's just like "oh well, too bad". I also love that she doesn't feel the need to put herself to the fore by talking a lot like the others, and yet still has fun. She's awesome.
Well, with that I must actually take Orion in to defense. Not considering the behaviour that has transpired afterwards, by that point it's only fair to claim he's in his character of a self-important bufoon that is clearly concerned with the Horn and the imminent battle, hence trying to take the control of the conversation to force the decision to go in the way he feels to be most appropriate in terms of ehat to do withthe Horn/paladin situation. That is not the planning of the attack situation where they had time to talk it out but a short intermission in a battle whilst being surrounded by enemy. As much as annoying his character is (and he as a person) he's only staying in the character. By that moment the team was trying to discuss what to do it's take them ages (obviously interrupted by combat with Clarota, but they ddnt know about it). More annoying was last episode when he done shite in the fight against the Beholder, effectively avoiding any combat, and then swooped in dealt the final blow and started behaving like he did all the heavy lifting. The subsequent behavious is unacceptable either way.
@@oleyullahI feel like that might be true for the last time he cast silence. It felt light hearted and silly and was a funny moment. This time around, it really felt like it was Orion using game mechanics to shut Sam up for accusing him of not helping in the fight.
@@oleyullah Good role players never have to use spells to get their way. He was immature and clearly felt the need to shush out Scanlan because he was mocking him. Scanlan (or sam) probably wouldn't of mocked him if Orion wasn't such a spotlight hogging bastard lol
That shit was HILARIOUS. Everyone starts fidgeting, save Travis and Liam. Orion makes things sooooo awkward for everyone, and I dislike it, but I’m also a total sucker for some cringe - something in my blood, I suppose - so I lose it every time he acts up. Sam is so clearly over his shit.
Grab him by the calamari! ... I believe that's the phrase Vax used earlier in the campaign? When facing another illithid? I could be misremembering, though.
@@filipferencak2717 potentially, though I think the idea with most lawful good deities is that anything(living)deserves some semblance of mercy, but undead aren't alive and are a distortion of the natural order, mercy is for the living
@@toryfox4580 Well, you would be wrong there because Pelor activelly encourages violence against anything undead. That includes harmless undead who are begging for mercy too. To Pelor, the state of undeath is a serious offense deserving of death on it's own. You could be a model citizen, but if you're an undead, according to Pelor, you should be destroyed. Now, you can play the game however you like, but destroying undeath wherever you find it is Pelor's official stance. Lawful good entities don't have to be merciful to every form of life because they don't primarily strive for mercy. Lawful good entities are primarily about order. They have a set of ironclad rules that they believe will increase order in the world. Since they are "good" entities, their rules are usually about granting protection / salvation / mercy etc. to other good or neutral creatures. Since evil creatures usually work against those god's rules, most lawful good gods view evil creatures as beings that need to be punished. Heck, even some chaotic neutral or even chaotic good creatures would need to be punished according to them. Essebtially, the further away you are from their alignment, the less they give a shit about your life and who does what with it.
I used this entire arc in my campaign and it went very differently, my players accepted K'varn's invitation and waltzed right into the temple, where he did an evil monologue about how he'd been watching them for some time and sees capable warriors he offered them the chance to join him freely or die and join him anyway, they fought on solid ground around the elder brain and K'varn permanently killed and raised our Dragonborn Paladin as an undead but the killing blow dealt to K'varn was from our Aasimar Paladin who flew to the top of the cavern Yug'Voril was in and fell straight down onto K'varn smiting on impact with a Nat 20 killing a heavily damaged K'varn and herself in the process but she was revivified. Afterwards Clarota did not return to the hive mind due to both Paladins casting Atonement on him and making him good, he started to love his individuality and did not want to return to the hive mind but he did want to save his people from K'varn, so after K'varn and the zombified member of the party was slain, Clarota helped the party escape back to their home city and as a result went with them and they convinced him to join them, they spruced up his robes and gave him a staff they'd acquired that our wizard wasn't using. So Clarota became a DM Player Character until he died about a year and a half later at the hands of a disguised Lich's disintegration spell and my players were devastated as they'd grown quite attached to their mind flayer friend.
Getting the entire episode spoiled by looking in the comments when im just trying to find the comment for when the episode starts :/ Btw it starts at 16:35 Edit: break ends at 2:22:25
As well he should be; as entertaining as he was at the beginning and occasionally playing Tiberius very well, hes kinda notorious as a dice fudger and cheater
I'm just watching these now, but man, you called it! That insanity during the last fight, (where Tibs left the fight to try to rally a hostile race to join in their fight against K'varn) pretty much sealed the deal for Sam. They're all friends, but damn... that was just too far out of bounds. Everyone was pissed at Orion... you can tell from their snarky comments between that game and this one. Grog was in serious trouble that fight, and Sorcerors can REALLY turn the tide when played right. Between 'running for congress' in Sam's words, (which had me laughing hysterically), and the never-ending pool of Orion's, "last three Sorceror points", I think even a good natured friend like Sam could be at the end of his rope.
@Dooley Versus I don't disagree with the thought of him doing what his character would do. But, character actions should absolutely be criticized, especially if the actions are going to be criticized in character. The party didn't know what Tiberius was doing, they just knew he wasn't there.
@Dooley Versus Aside from what Brett said, I think people are more annoyed with Orion's frustration/annoyance coming through Tiberius. He was undeniably snarky and mean during that last game, and only doubled down when people in the group started calling him down on it. At that point, it's pretty difficult to say Tiberius's actions were understandable, since they really just felt motivated by his annoyance with the group. I don't know if any of this is true, but the point is I think it's fair that people criticise his actions, especially when any apparent motivation for trying to rally hostile monsters to fight K'varn (I really felt like Matt was being really nice and avoiding frustrating Orion further by not having them blast him out of the sky the moment he appeared, because of his persuasion roll).
You can tell by the convos going on in the background at the end of the last episode that there was a ton of drama going on. He looks like he is looking for a fix during that last episode.
Reposting for myself 23:11 - Game begins 26:33 - Scanlan questions Tiberius and asks why he wasn't with them when they needed him the most (28:54 - Tiberius whispers to Scanlan that he is with them) 27:02 - Tiberius casts "Silence" on Scanlan, which the latter instantly dispels 49:42 - Scanlan sings "grappled and stunned" 55:47 - Scanlan rolls a natural 20 (I like the way he shows that) 1:02:40 - Scanlan says that no one knew that Clarota was going to turn on them, to which Grog presents a counter-argument 1:19:43 - Scanlan makes a optimistic joke in response to Percy being pessimistic about an NPC attack 1:21:29 - Grog tells Scanlan to do what [????] tells him to do. I didn't catch this but it sounded funny. 1:21:41 - Scanlan runs up to Pike and sings a dimension door song 1:23:37 - Scanlan suggests putting Lady Kima (who is stone) into the bag of holding 1:33:16 - Tiberius makes a Lord of the Rings reference, "Fly, you fools!" 1:35:12 - The DM makes a suggestion 1:36:07 - Pike gives Scanlan a kiss on his cheek as her bonus action and an inspiration die is awarded 1:37:10 - Vax gives Percy a kiss on the cheek as his bonus action but no inspiration die is awarded 1:46:46 - Scanlan pours his healing potion down Pike's throat as a bonus action.... [does anyone else think his flirting is getting a little out of hand?] 2:01:11 - Scanlan sings a flying song 2:19:47 - Pub crawl! [2:31:45 - End of break, Part 2 begins] 2:39:05 - Scanlan turns Tiberius into a rat when the latter says he's heading to bed. Tiberius heads to bed as a rat. 3:09:58 - Friend-zone 3:11:00 - Game ends
(Last Session) Orion: "I spend five sorcerer points and I do telekinesis..." Matt: "How many sorcery points do you have?" Orion: "That's it after that." (This Session, which starts right where the last one left off) Orion: "And I'm going to use my last three sorcerer points that I have, and I have zero points after this..." Admittedly, I don't play a sorcerer and may have missed him sacrifice a spell slot or something along the way but still...never been a huge fan of Tiberius. Though when Laura tries to subtly ask Orion about it he doesn't seem to give an explanation about where the points came from, only that he definitely had enough to do what he needed to. Also far from the first or last time that his turns seem weird. Sus gaming aside, Tiberius makes me wince almost every time he does anything. I know the guy was going through some stuff, but I can't imagine how he would have fit into the dynamic they have nowadays. You could cut the tension at the table with a knife.
I play sorcerer and to clear up any confusion I announce to the DM when I sacrifice spell slots for sorcery points, the fact he doesn’t makes him suspect of cheating
@@youshallnotpass567 ditto. Since converting spell slots to sorcery points and vice versa requires a bonus action and just to make sure everyone’s on the same page, I always announced that. It’s like not calling sharpshooter or great weapon master and then once you roll you just say, “oh yeah, that was GWM.” Like that’s not how it’s supposed to work
This entire campaign, all of which was underground and most of which was in the Underdark, carried such a feeling of doom and evil that suddenly teleporting to a city and having to deal with some administration issues completely took me off guard.
just now getting into CR and im living for the image of vox machina tumbling into this room, covered in their own and other’s ichor, carrying a stone woman, a bear, a pterodactyl, and nearly dead cleric and just going “oh hey um- we’re here to talk to the emperor” and the person working there just being like “oh okay sure” and believing that shit
I dislike some of his actions too but they should've left when he did. Vex and Trinket got mind blasted for being tardy and only got saved Mercer was creative with the vines coming from the carpet. He also teleported them away. I disliked a lot of what he did these last 2 sessions but that move made sense.
@@mikealjohnsson I mean last session he was screwed over by the DM for being a team player and then everybody jumped on him. He wasted a slot on trinket the useless bear volunteered for the giant drop even though he didn't like the plan. Then was sidelined for two rounds as Matt actively tried to skip his turn and not let him play at all. Saying the carpet has fixed movement and can't be used to dash after the previous turn where he said it took his whole turn to fly down. Then the group starts complaining like it was his fault he was sidelined for two turns after he did their plan. Percy saying you're not here when according to Matt he couldn't physically get there in his two turns. Laura calling him a dick because he was actively getting targeted and shut down by the DM. Of course he acted like an asshole after that. I would have too.
Funny how Grog is the dumbest one of the group (you don't count, Trinket) and IRL I think Travis is the smartest one. When he goes OOC he comes up with the most reasonable ideas.
Travis is undoubtedly pretty smart, but I think Liam, Taliesin, and Laura all have equally intelligent moments. It seems like Liam tends to have the clearest idea of where the overall story is going (and the most cautious mind), Laura tends to be a pretty quick thinker in the moment, and Taliesin is a damn Elder God who has 4000+ years of wisdom to impart every time he opens his mouth.
(Grog throws axe at Clarota) Me: Oof. (Vex shots him with arrows) Me: He's gonna die. (Percy blows his head apart) Me: He's so dead. (Scanlan smears him across the ground with a brass cage) Me: He's so very dead. (Tiberius nukes the room with fireball) Me: Can anyone be deader than that guy? Gee.
it's the underdark what did you expect? a werewolf? there's only draegloth down there if you want that and those are technically almost-demons (for game purposes they are demons)...i get a lot of my bestiary knowledge from DDO even though i have several DnD bestiary books for several different editions lying around here somewhere
gringocatalan this is a late reply to this comment but I like how he says “if WE didn’t kill him this turn...” kindve a Freudian slip letting you know he’s rooting for them even when actively trying to kill them :’)
I like to think that Clarence was completely honest about everything he told the party but once the hive mind gained control, whatever individuality he was gaining was lost
+ He established a very frail bond with them, it’s not an easy choice to instantly contradict the herd when you’re on shaky footing with them which is the best your relationship has been in... your entire existence.
Nah, I think that's just too optimistic. He IS a mindflayer, at the end of the day, and, having got what he wanted already, what use had he still for them?
@@peterparker8462 I think Matt actually confirmed what OP was saying. He genuinely hated the hive but even his own will wasn’t strong enough when they got close too the hive mind
He could also use a spell slot to regain Sorcery Points (as a bonus action). He should obviously say that and there's a good chance he's cheating. But it's not impossible he had five more points.
@@AlexDudeCrazy You can expend spell slots to get points back. It's also possible he didn't mark it down correctly and forgot between weeks. Sam/Scanland forgot he used up all his inspirations before the battle and started giving them out again. These things do happen.
According to Clarota, mind flayers retained their individuality even when connected to the hive brain, so more than likely he simply made the choice to betray them at the most opportune time, when their usefulness had run out. He got what he wanted, and convincing the other mind flayers not to attack might have been too much of a bother. After all, when he reconnected, they would have become well aware of the party's help in freeing them from K'Varn. But Illithid are not very friendly. They used to have an empire of mind-controlled slaves that spanned the planes. To them, even as helpful as they were, the party was nothing more than tasty morsels to be had.
Why didnt Tiberius used his telekinesis to put the helmet back on Clarato's head? Maybe, just maybe it would go back to being their ally without the hive in his head. :(
I actually had hope he would convince the other mindflayers to let them leave in peace. The betrayal saddened me a little bit even though I shoulda known better lol
Todricc_Pelt_Fandoms I mean, it’s a Mind Flayer, an objectively evil abberation. I liked Clarota and the way Matt played him; but the only response to a Mind Flayer is nuking it from orbit.
Really annoyed this wasn’t higher because I didn’t get to it until they’d made it back to their city, after having most of the stuff spoiled. I’m liking and commenting to move it up in the pecking order.
I know this came out years ago, but Vox amazes me sometimes. I mean I love these guys, but it took them all of 10 seconds to trust a mind flayer, but a paladin folk hero needs a full team sit down to decide if they trust or not.
If I had to guess I would say that Marsha is an atheist and that her hatred for religion is being portrayed through Keylith's distrust of all good alligned characters who have any sort of involvement with the Church.
@@aarondavis7391 Her smug face after saying "Right, because no one of the church has ever been bad before." seems to give some validity to your theory.
didn't seem like sarcasm to me, I think travis just assumed magic could remedy the situation as it had many times before with Tiberius and Keyleth both pulling the group out of what would have been nasty situations
I think that Orion's just playing into his elderly character, who just dismisses or passes sarcasm because he doesn't detect it. I mean. Tiberius does state, in his backstory, that he can be forgetful or something on the level- that he's sharp. He's got a personality, Orion's just playing it.
@@TommyStonebraker That guy is right though, Tiberius isn't old but he does literally have FOUR wisdom. His wisdom is much lower than Grog's intelligence.
Liam says it all. ''You don't get a guitar solo every turn''. Meaning, you can't do everything Orion. He wants the spotlight so much. -_- a bit after 46:50
That's rich coming from Taliesin though. His only real contribution to the show up to this point is a "I do big numbers to bad guys" heavy hitter. Outside of combat his Percy is practically mute and just follows the party around waiting for the next battle.
@@mingodingo He crafts bombs, specialty arrow, and other items for the others as well, though. He also made a camouflage cloak from the cloaker creature and he anchored the boat in an earlier episode with his ice shot (both utility outside combat). On your actual comment, to say that calling someone out on hoarding spotlight is rich coming from him, while also saying he mutely follows the party is a bit contradictary.
@@Soggy2002I'm not saying he does nothing outside combat I'm saying he doesn't really do anything to add to the funnest aspect of the game. Even your counterexamples are cold in-game utility contributions. Percy mutely follows the party. Taliesin speaks, this is dnd. There's a difference.
@@mingodingo I think Taliesin was a little bit quiet, but you will see how good of a DM Matt is with the next story arc. Taliesin didn't talk a lot so he included him more in the story.
No.. I just realised how many episodes are on their website.. You don't understand, I've been watching these nonstop for three days now. But it was over, I could get back to my life. Until I discovered this. Oh god..
Actually, seeing how Travis constantly makes OOC decisions for the group and the fact that Grog occasionally acts like he has Travis' lvl of intelligence, I would disagree. This does only happen when Travis shits himself though (like against K'varn).
@@BookwyrmEDS 115 episodes in Campaign 1, 120 and growing in Campaign 2, a ton of great one-shots... One day I'll have watched everything Critical Role has to offer, but today is not that day 😂
@@dragishawk Tiamat and Bahamut are siblings and each is a nemesis to the other. Kima is a Paladin of Bahamut and, being a dragonborn, Tiberius venerates him. I supposed Matt could have left her out but it's a set that seems pointless to break up. Also when you have an open DM input from PCs often shapes the world.
Holy goodness, that Tiberius/Scanlan tension right off the bat!! Man, I thought the tension was kind of diffused with that light episode in the middle, but noooope.... uff da!
The interaction in Episode 12 (DM Tips) makes it clear that “an offline conversation with Orion” happened off-screen - he’s falling all over himself saying “I was playing wrong, I was too scared, I was certain Matt was trying to kill us” - shame the reconciliation only lasted seven more days.
you people try to create drama where it's not. Tiberius is the first one flying away with his Fly spell that he had casted before percy got on the carpet. But yeah, Percy's looking at Tiberius and sneering at him... grow up and just watch the damn show.
@@Mephiston Nope, just being objective. Tell me, which part of my comment wasn't objective? I like all of the characters and just simply don't create drama. If anyone is somehow emotionally invested it's the OP for totally obviously making up drama and situations, and you for calling me a sycophant based on me correcting a blatant lie.
@@taRomi93 The part where you deny there is any issue with Orion and his metagaming shenanigans. I mean, you're looking into a throwaway comment too much, which makes me wonder if I hit a nerve for the speed at which you were tripping over yourself to try and establish a moral highground.
@@Mephiston Right, so once again, where exactly did I do that? I simply stated that Tiberius wasn't even there cuz he had already flown away, when supposedly Percy looked at him sneering. So please, explain where did I say ANYTHING about Orion's behaviour.
I really love how creative Keyleth is, not everything works out all the time but she uses so many different approaches ! (she is not the only one to do it but yeah using the vine to get stunned Trinket was really clever I think)
Marisha's creativity in combat is a highlight of each campaign for me, culminating in Laudna's crafting of insane, horror-movie level uses for spells. No wonder she is the creative director!
Yeah... I've been watching these for the first time, and for sure... he's cheating. Unless I'm totally off on his character's level, (and even if he's burned every 1st level spell slot in favor of Sorceror points), he's still way over-limit between rests. That's not even including his meta-magic insanity from that last fight. I think he got away with it for as long as he did because he was their friend. After awhile, they all knew, (you can see when he's in a turn and they give a look to the camera), but I don't think they wanted to take action because of their friendships.
It also seems like Matt knows that but isn’t comfortable challenging him on it anymore. Kinda seems like everyone at the table knows because there’s a weird energy when it’s his turn. I’m looking forward to whatever point the group reach the dynamics they have in campaign 2.
Tbf he wasn't over using his sorcery points... he pulled one of the spells from his head slot (which he stored telepathy) then used his last 3 spells to cast fly and teleport. The fireball came from his ring so doesn't count.
Michael Mclellan No because he carries items in which he can store spells (his ring and his head slot)... and Fly and Teleport he doesn’t need sorcery points for so he didn’t actually use any.
Yeah I can see why Orion was so annoying. He doesn't listen to his party at all, and he's generally negative and self-centred. Really not conducive to a good team player
Mac Seigel yeah I liked him for a few episodes too. I like his blustering awkwardness and “... from Draconia!”. It’s just too bad it morphed into something else
RainbowByt3s We need to make Cannon within the fandom the “Tiberius Arc” which goes from Ep. 11 to Ep. 27 about the Lovable Sorcerers’ Descent into Senility.
Poor Sam, sitting at the end of the table, not able to have funny conversations with the rest of the party. His and Orion's body language is something else! I'm so happy to see Sam and Laura in c2 casually bullshitting with eachother each episode
@@Siberiabird It was, sort of. But Orion is still a shitty person and a metagamer who had to be the sole hero of the adventure. Basically he played a multi person RPG as a single player game.
@@Mephiston Not to mention, being a thief, stealing from charity, abusement of multiple girlfriends with video evidence, being shitty to fans to the point of the rest of the group having to clean up the mess and on and on.
Marisha trying her hardest to be nice to orion and keep him in the fold but you can see from last episode he had started to loose em This episode he was loosing others and had lost Sam These next 15 episodes are going to be a chore I think
First time watching, and cringing from Orion since the first episode, ngl I'm gonna enjoy the underhanded roasts burns and backhands until the egotistical twat is finally booted
first time watching from the start and percy really shone this fight before this i honestly kept forgetting that he was even there, ive seen some clips from later on and see him standing out a lot more which im happy about cos im loving percy
Watching this in 2023 after baldurs gate as someone who is completely new to this world and wants to learn. Orion is nice to have so I can see a clear cut example of how not to play and act lol
As someone with a biology background, I fucking love the part where Keylith uses Control Water to damage the Elder Brain on the basis of "brains have water in them". Dehydration of any part of a body fucks you up real bad and most people don't realize what a versatile weapon spells like that are.
As another bio/med background. I would agree. But I've heard DMs/WOtC usually rule that 'tool' spells don't directly damage. Otherwise I would have Shape Water every time and run the table with most fiends.
@@Reepicheep-1 It's a fair ruling - the spell states that you need to see the water, and it's reasonable to say you cannot see water when it is contained within cells. I'd be totally open to someone using shape water aggressively in the right circumstances (e.g. dropping a 100 litres of water on someone's head all at once is likely to hurt), but not with dehydration.
NOT ONLY THAT, but they don’t let her turn out of stone on their first FUCKING NIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT FUCKING CAVERN!!! Like she’s been TORTURED FOR WEEKS IN THERE, let her have a fucking night, come on!
Laura : glares at travis for saying '' i came in my pants '' Also laura : spends the next 5 years of DnD giggling at and making anything she can perverted.
This whole adventure would make an amazing comic or animated series. I've been writing for years, and i can't imagine how Matt improvises such good writing in reaction to all their actions and decisions
I was so confused as to why Pike's plate armor is so bad but she has 13 Strength when you need 15 to wear plate armor without disadvantages. It's not really worth the +2 AC if you keep failing everything.
I know this post is 2 years old, but regardless. Failing to meet the Strength requirement for Armor reduces your Speed. The disadvantage to stealth occurs for anyone who wears armor that lists Stealth as having disadvantage, regardless of their Strength. Matt also throws that disadvantage onto other things, like Acrobatics, most likely as a holdover from Pathfinder.
At about 1:54:30 orion tries to lie to scanland about the damage of his fireball and a minute after that he looks it up in the book and you can clearly see that he lied
@@stephengreene3921 Yeah, the tension is actually making me uncomfortable. I want to watch every single episode to not miss out, but could I skip some for the sake of saving me some cringe?
@@MaxisGameplays i’m having the same feeling, but all i’ve seen is to entirely skip ep 27 because it was apparently a shit show of an episode, and you’ll be happier to not have to watch it.
23:11 - Game begins 26:33 - Scanlan questions Tiberious and asks why he wasn't with them when they needed him the most (28:54 - Tiberious whispers to Scanlan that he is with them) 27:02 - Tiberous casts "Silence" on Scanlan, which the latter instantly dispels 49:42 - Scanlan sings "grappled and stunned" 55:47 - Scanlan rolls a natural 20 (I like the way he shows that) 1:02:40 - Scanlan says that no one knew that Kerota was going to turn on them, to which Grogg presents a counter-argument 1:19:43 - Scanlan makes a optimistic joke in response to Percy being pessimistic about an NPC attack 1:21:29 - Grogg tells Scalan to do what [????] tells him to do. I didn't catch this but it sounded funny. 1:21:41 - Scanlan runs up to Pike and sings a dimension door song 1:23:37 - Scanlan suggests putting Lady Kema (who is stone) into the bag of holding 1:33:16 - Tiberius makes a Lord of the Rings reference "Fly, you fools!" 1:35:12 - The DM makes a suggestion 1:36:07 - Pike gives Scanlan a kiss on his cheek as her bonus action and an inspiration die is awarded 1:37:10 - Vax gives Percy a kiss on the cheek as his bonus action but no inspiration die is awarded 1:46:46 - Scanlan pours his healing potion down Pikes throat as a bonus action.... [does anyone else think his flirting is getting a little out of hand?] 2:01:11 - Scanlan sings a flying song 2:19:47 - Pub crawl! [2:31:45 - End of break, Part 2 begins] 2:39:05 - Scanlan turns Tiberius into a rat when the latter says he's heading to bed. Tiberius heads to bed as a rat. 3:09:58 - Friend-zone 3:11:00 - Game ends
+Blake Dale Coke cans, at least here, have different sayings printed on their sides, I believe last year there were prints with choose to be happy or be happy or something on it. The fact that he went to Pike and saved her, I assumed that's what he meant. Looked it up, they were printed with "Choose Happiness" and "Open Happiness" in 2015 apparently, so I was close.
@@stephens021 Oh my god, her face during that was heartbreaking. I will admit she gets to be a bit too much for me, especially anytime Trinket is involved, but that face just screamed "You're ruining this...".
@@PapaKroeger And the look over to Liam who can only throw his hands up at this point... they all just seem so tired with it. And when they do get excited, he’s so sour. Like Jeez, clearly no one is having fun here...
@@somethingsomethingsomethingdarI think they were. I knew from episode…three? going in that he had been fudging rolls, so I went into this with that in mind, and watching them for that was far more telling, if you watch everyone watch him. I don’t think they were tweeting or getting on phones for no reason - I think they were checking in with each other or Matt over spell slots or his rolls. (Which, incidentally, his spell slot management I noticed before I looked into why I didn’t see him in the animated series - that’s what led to me discovering why he was gone later in the DnD sessions)
I think Marisha is under appreciated for both this episode and on the 11th one, since she was giving it to Orion straight up while others were talking all the while trying to keep a light atmosphere among them. That must have been so mentally and emotionally taxing.
Quote of the game: "I never should have trusted that Magneto Motherfucker!"
Oh, uh.......... Spoilers....
i laughed so hard
Should have edited the comment : /
Siobhan Kafei lol Should I have?
I think "I hope they've got flood insurance" is also up there. ahaha
Sam: “none of us knew he would turn on us”
Travis: (holding up notebook) “I don’t trust clarota, I don’t trust clarota, I don’t trust clarota”
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@@NerdAlert-xm2dc 1:02:40
Clarota was up front about his desire to rejoin his fellow ilithids and the Overbrain is in control of that fellowship. I fully expected Clarota to turn on them if given the opportunity. Truthfully anyone should have known better than to trust the creature that views you as part of the lunch menu.
I doubt Clarota was in control. The Elder Brain probably reasserted control and forced him to turn. Segregated Mind Flayers have been known to chill out more when not connected to an Elder Brain.
@@SirDankleberry I know nothing of the lore, but this exactly what I was thinking. Clarota probably genuinely had good intentions, but as soon as he was reconnected to the overbrain he lost his own volition and became part of the "hive".
1:17:45 Mercers reaction here completely blew me away. If they didn't kill that mindflayer there he would have had to kill pike and he would have hated it. He was the only one on the table who knew that attack would be instkill and was probably worried about how to break it to them. That sigh of relief was so genuine.
That whole fight I was like "What are you doing?! Save the cleric!"
Saving Pike would have been my first priority (supposing I wasn't on door-sealing duty), and had it been done early enough, would have let her restore Kima to bring another character into the fight.
The fact that the whole party seemed to not notice that their cleric was about to have her brains sucked from her skull was both stunning and terrifying, only for them to scramble and pull it off at the last moment.
It was really down to him allowing Liam that sneak attack.
@@MFZBitch exactly!!! after he revealed that pike would've died from that attack, we all realized he let liam make the sneak attack damage bc he didn't want to go through killing pike again. that was nuts.
Oh yeah! Definitely! That's what makes him such a good DM. He's not "DM against the players", he's playing the game right along side his friends! He's telling a story. Hos job is to lay out the parts of the story the players can't see. The job of the DM is not to fight the player's characters, but to tell a story and let the dice decide whether a player's character dies or not. It is not up to the DM to decide that, it is all in the Luck of the Dice. A GOOD DM, is hoping the players triumph over the challenges He or She sets before their players. The nerve wracking moments... hit the GOOD DM just as hard as they do the players.
D&D, above all else... is about telling and playing out a story, and epic tale, an oddessy of literature.
D&D was never meant to spreadsheets and number crunching... it is meant to spark the imagination, and tell a fantastic tale.
Mr. Matt Mercer is a BRILLIANT story teller, and this and the fact that he understands that he WANTS his players to succeed and defeat the challenges he sets before the, makes him one of the most awesome DM's ever. :-)
The most wholesome part of that is when he says, "If *we* didn't kill him this turn he would've killed pike." It's never been Mercer against the others, he's always been one of them from the beginning and I love it so much.
Liam telling Orion "You don't get a guitar solo every turn" is straight gold
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@@calebgagne5220 he uses his class ability as often as its allowed and makes the occasional mistake? How dare he.
@@calebgagne5220 Found the Orion alt account.
@@calebgagne5220 Thank goodness. You don't deserve a show this good.
@@calebgagne5220 hahahahahahahahahaha
I love how their whole basis for distrusting kima was that she wanted to bring the horn with her instead of destroying it, when the very first thing she said about the horn was that IT CANNOT BE DESTROYED
Pretty sure Matt played it that way just because he wanted to get the conversation to the point that the party needed to know. But yeah, it was an interesting but weird character / RP thing for the party to distrust Kima based on this misunderstanding that she might want to take the horn for herself.
It was *plausible* that she was a fallen Paladin after weeks of torture, based on some of her actions, but they could have cleared this up with conversation before the big fight, and had her un-stoned for the whole post-K'Varn fight.
@@Peter_Cordes Marisha is so fucking annoying with the whole thing. She completely trusted a fucking MIND FLAYER and was willing to go with him against a paladin who they had little reason to distrust. And when everyone else wanted to unfreeze Kima she was constantly going against it. It's like she randomly decided she didn't like her and nothing that could be done would gain Keyleth's trust.
@@Easy8_ you mean Keyleth, not Marisha. She's roleplaying someone who had a problem relating to a higher power in her past.
@@Peter_Cordes Yeah, I mean the way that half the group was so paranoid, trying to assign motivations to Kima and everyone assumed various things when they could have at least TALKED to her instead of just leaving her as a lawn ornament. This is one of the troubles with playing such a large group.
It's also why I like to play characters with high Sense Motive. I'm not against roleplaying or debate, but I hate getting bogged down trying to outsmart the story.
@@flaminyawn (ignoring the part where by doing so you do exactly what you hate, especially if your character who is _expected_ to succeed the Sense Motive check, fails)
percy deserves more credit for the beholder battle if he wasnt there everyone else would have done a lot worse
sha shu Matt also stretched the rules to make that work for him sooooo good job DM?
apparently the numbers were so close mos of the group would have wiped if it were not for the debuff he kept using.
@@eacey It was both of them. Percy for trying to think outside the box and Matt for accommodating his player's ideas while keeping balance in mind.
@@DaGoon_ Mercer's rule is, "it's fun and doesn't break the game" then you can certainly try.
@@Never_heart yeah I know that. I was just saying specifically it was both of them that made this fight happen
Percy deserves so much more love! Just the idea of a gunslinger in this party constellation is simply wonderful. That dude really ties the room together.
I'm super not into firearms in dnd, but Taliesin can do what he wants!
I'm coming back after future episodes and my _gods_ was Taliesin quiet compared to what was to come. He really came into his own.
He's quiet but I really appreciate that he (and to a lesser degree Travis) doesn't have the need for the spotlight the rest of the players do. I like them all but they're always talking and role-playing on top of each other. Percy only butts in when he has something vital to say
@@TBLIVIN agreed. Percy comes off as the "what is best for the party, as long as we get through it unscathed.. that's good enough for me. I dont need the glory"
That right there puts him as the best party member in my book.
Sam and Travis are the guys that are just straight up great players. Positive, rolls with the punches without throwing a fit.
Not my man crush talking or anything but I'd kill to have Travis take me under his wing and show me the d&d ropes.
In the world of magic and monsters, he fights with technology as the token human of the group. True vex and vax are half elf and thus half human but Percy is the Sokka of the group especially in the early episodes. Getting shit done with science!
Sam: "I turn him into a goat"
Matt: *really freaking considering letting him do it*
Orion: "It doesn't work, he has to say it"
Matt, reluctantly: "yeah, I know"
Lol
*opens book to double triple check that he can't turn him into a goat*
He wanted it so bad lol
Curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal!
we shall call it "this land"
I ALWAYS SAID Clarence should have been killed off earlier. Goddammit it all...he was always too good to be true.
I THINK WE SHOULD CALL IT YOUR GRAVE!
Technically, the best the party could tell, Klaro'ta only ever intended to return home; Their sense intention check told them that. Last I checked, the party isn't a batch of murder-hobos who kill characters for no reason other than the voices in their head tell them to (the players logicking it so)
He was their friend, and he betrayed them. HE WAS THEIR FRIEND!!! *general angst*
(if you'll pardon my appropriation of your reference with a different reference)
53:18 Liam’s quiet but abhorrent “Matthew” is maybe the funniest thing I’ve ever heard.
What do you mean I can't telekinetically try to crush a horn, do a backflip, dash, leap on to a magic carpet, cast fireball, speak with animals, and conversate in 6 seconds?
While also having used 5 fireballs and 12 sorcerer points 10 minutes earlier
It took me longer than 6 seconds to read this
Also, last episode, when asked about telekinesis, he said he couldn't use any more sorcery points after that, then this episode, he conveniently has more.
@@Dominant_Jest LOL
@@Dominant_Jest yeah I remember that, also at the start of this episode he fails a throw so goes again then conveniently says 'natural 20 :)' he has done this multiple times in the past when rolling low but here it was extra obvious
Tiberius must have a bag of holding where he's keeping all these "last 3 sorcerer points"
... queue next episode...
I looked it up and he should have nine total and the last episode he used 15
Unless I'm mistaken and he's a level 15 but I thought they were only level nine or 10
Nope they are all lvl 10 they said it last episode or the one before that. So yea, y’all are right.
Yeah I've noticed it before, he cheats a lot with them. He does with his spell slots as well.
Pike: "I'm great, well not really, but I'm just gonna pretend im happy so that everybody can be okay" The most Jester thing I have heard lol
I thought that as soon as I heard it too!!! Every campaign needs an adorable character who pretends to be happy all the time just to make sure others are happy and taken care of instead of them.
@@superlolgal555 That's so sad though..
@@SapphireZukotu I mean yeah but they allow you to play an edgy character while still being able to laugh all the time
and fuCKING TIBERIUS GOES YEAH WELL DONE PIKE BURY IT DEEP INSIDE I MEAN
@@amato6829 do you need help?
1:59:50
Scanlan: "I'm gonna turn into a huge pterodactyl and carry some folks."
Matt: "Ok."
Grog: "What?"
Vex: "You can do that?!"
Scanlan: "Sure, why not?"
I legit thought he was just joking when he said that. Didnt even know he could
I loved when someone outlines a 40 step plan that requires 10 spells and 20 skill checks and matt just stares for a minute and just says "ok"
@@Liam-vu7wo or just says, two of them are concentration spells. And the range of that one doesn't include the carpet.
Is it wrong of me, now knowing what I know and binge watching and giving the "huh?" eye, to wish that Scanlan/Sam said "Sure, why not. I'll use my 30 bajillion sorcerer points."
*Me, a paleozoology nerd:* Pterosaurs don't have talons like raptors birds. Should not have worked.
Someone else: And the brain-eating squid people make sense?
Matt's reaction when Vex killed the mindflayer that was about to kill Pike was amazing, he really didn't wanted to kill her, Vex is a life saver.
Also Percy is my fkin hero now, he controled the beholder so well, and he finished Clarota. That was just perfect.
*Vax! Don't worry, we all get them mixed up lol
@@1SunnyDaze0 Isn't this why the "Im Vax --> Thats Vex" shirts exist?
1:17:20 for those who want to revisit.
1:34:15
"Scanlan, are you hurt?"
"I'm fine, baby. How are you?"
"I'm great. WEll, not really, but I'm just going to pretend I'm happy so that everybody can be okay"
WOW PIKE!!
1:37:10
"Let's get out of here, you bastard!"
Percy with inspiration dices: "I always get excited 'cause I never get them!"
Oh gosh, poor guy. Sending you lots of love though.
"Dice" is already a plural form of "die". There is no such word as dices.
Apologies.
+BedheadBrunette I like your drawings, have you been doing more original stuff?
Thank you! Unfortunately I haven't had time to draw since I started working. ):
BedheadBrunette Hey, food and rent are good! Good luck, hope you still have time to sketch stuff out every now and then. Practice for upkeep lest the patterns for it decline.
just for the record: i had a character get turned to stone and spend two weeks in a bag of holding before the party found a city big enough to restore her. She was fine.
but was there an powerful, evil artifact in there as well?
Magma Kojote anything with the bag of holding doesn’t interact with other things in the bag of holding, it’s a separate pocket dimension. I’m guessing the reason they were worried is that they wouldn’t be able to breath, but since they are stone it doesn’t matter.
Next campaign, Caduceus' family is petrified for upwards of 10 years and wake up just fine.
Except him mysteriously being the oldest sibling now
@@tannertadlock7741 except for his aunt being shattered
@@kyeo77 well we got around that, didn't we?
"By the way guys you can break up your movement to move attack move" The look on Liam's face, like he is trying to predict the amount of math he is going to have to do in the future.
And Travis, "Unless Tickle-Me-Elmo is holding you by a cage" XD
"Some people have no sense of fucking honor!" is EASILY my favorite quote from Percy so far
I liked the part where grog had a nightmare and said he had two testies hurting brain i laughed so hard at that one. And tour right about percys comment lol that was chefs kiss
Percy's comment is at 1:11:08 for anyone who wants to go see it or come back to it 🥰
@@shadeunderthetree7055 Thank you
Ashley: "He can bear-ly hold us"
*everyone reacts*
But when Sam makes a bear pun (which he does all the time) no one ever notices.
CrownRock1 As Scanlan would say it's a grizzly situation
It's a leftover curse from when he voiced Teddy from Persona 4.
“This is a grizzly situation” went _tragically_ under-appreciated
A true master pun artist
I thought that same thing as soon as I saw how everyone waaay overreacted yet "grizzly situation" got nothing! Lol
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Mid-game bathroom break ends at 2:32:52
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+FFIXMaster Doin' the work of God here, boy.
you sir are a scholar and a gentlemen
You tha real MVP
Taliesin as drunk Percy is adorable. It makes me so happy to see Tal just go "I'm drunk" and giggle to himself.
There are so many instances of Matt's smiling, holy-shit-im-so-proud "Okay" in this episode, specifically Keyleth's Grasping Vine Trinket Towline. Watching him slowly become more and more impressed with the party's ingenuity is just a fantastic sight.
Sam: No one knew Clarota would betray us!
Travis: *reading off a paper he had written* I don't trust Clarota I don't trust Clarota I don't trust Clarota I don't trust Clarota
Charlotte Miller trust the low intell he has high wis them tou
He was also the only one to say as much out loud over the course of the campaign. Travis just doesn't step on others decisions too much.
@@TBLIVIN Keyleth loved Clarota and hated Kima so much. Haha
Watching this in 2020, the fact that they treated a mind flayer with 10x the respect and trust then a NPC who is described as a folk hero and the greatest force for good in the area is both hilarious and extremely frustrating to watch.
Because she is annoying as hell and from their standpoint they dont know her maybe its all an act or she has an alternate motive..
@Isaac She’s a paladin of Bahamut, an objectively good god. Yes, she seemed to not be extremely personable and came off as a little judgmental but you have to remember; she had previously just spent weeks being brutally tortured and also traditionally paladins are kinda judgmental by nature, they are arbiters of justice and as such must judge other’s actions. Not hating on the cast at all, I just think their logic was a little silly on this one. I am happy how **(spoilers for later in Campaign 1)**
the party eventually gets over that and Kima becomes one of their most trusted allies, she is one of my favorite characters in CR.
It's also such a them thing to do that I love it
It's really silly. I blame Keyleth who suddenly rounded on her several episodes ago because she THANKED THE PARTY FOR SAVING HER LIFE.
The positive is that they faced the in game consequences of befriending a clearly evil creature and implicitly trusting it for several sessions.
Thoritorium That part was pretty painful. It seemed like she was randomly trying WAY too hard to introduce moral ambiguity into a plot where there was none.
I love that, even though she's rolling really poorly, Pike (Ashley) is still so positive and such a good sport!
Omg right?? I think any normal person rolling this bad and being this unable to take any actions would at least grow a little bit of healthy frustration haha! But she's just like "oh well, too bad".
I also love that she doesn't feel the need to put herself to the fore by talking a lot like the others, and yet still has fun. She's awesome.
and she was one turn off from instant character death
Unlike other people in red shirts eh hem
@@alleskunst5747 Oh, yeah, I noticed a red smudge on the screen. Luckily it went away in later episodes.
@@roobard2700 oh really? Lucky me I'm watching CR for the first time and this is quite distracting.
the crew’s silence after tiberius “silences” scanlan was truly deafening
Well, with that I must actually take Orion in to defense. Not considering the behaviour that has transpired afterwards, by that point it's only fair to claim he's in his character of a self-important bufoon that is clearly concerned with the Horn and the imminent battle, hence trying to take the control of the conversation to force the decision to go in the way he feels to be most appropriate in terms of ehat to do withthe Horn/paladin situation. That is not the planning of the attack situation where they had time to talk it out but a short intermission in a battle whilst being surrounded by enemy. As much as annoying his character is (and he as a person) he's only staying in the character.
By that moment the team was trying to discuss what to do it's take them ages (obviously interrupted by combat with Clarota, but they ddnt know about it).
More annoying was last episode when he done shite in the fight against the Beholder, effectively avoiding any combat, and then swooped in dealt the final blow and started behaving like he did all the heavy lifting.
The subsequent behavious is unacceptable either way.
@@oleyullahabysmal inte
@@oleyullahI feel like that might be true for the last time he cast silence. It felt light hearted and silly and was a funny moment. This time around, it really felt like it was Orion using game mechanics to shut Sam up for accusing him of not helping in the fight.
@@oleyullah Good role players never have to use spells to get their way. He was immature and clearly felt the need to shush out Scanlan because he was mocking him. Scanlan (or sam) probably wouldn't of mocked him if Orion wasn't such a spotlight hogging bastard lol
That shit was HILARIOUS. Everyone starts fidgeting, save Travis and Liam. Orion makes things sooooo awkward for everyone, and I dislike it, but I’m also a total sucker for some cringe - something in my blood, I suppose - so I lose it every time he acts up. Sam is so clearly over his shit.
2:40:25 *takes a drink*
Liam "First of all Clarota was lying through his noodles..."
*nearly dies*
Grab him by the calamari!
... I believe that's the phrase Vax used earlier in the campaign? When facing another illithid? I could be misremembering, though.
@@FuugaNatsu it sounds like a Vax line. A very Liam thing to say
@@FuugaNatsu He did say it.
1:04:07 "We'll stomp on them and make brain juice."
And she wonders why Sarenrae has a problem with her actions.
The wargoddess has a problem with brain juice? No she has a problem with killing unarmed and helpless opponents, as any lawful god would....
Aberrants don't count for mercy any more than fiends do.
@@toryfox4580 So, you're telling me Palor would be against destroying sentient undead if they were unnarmed and helpless?
@@filipferencak2717 potentially, though I think the idea with most lawful good deities is that anything(living)deserves some semblance of mercy, but undead aren't alive and are a distortion of the natural order, mercy is for the living
@@toryfox4580 Well, you would be wrong there because Pelor activelly encourages violence against anything undead. That includes harmless undead who are begging for mercy too. To Pelor, the state of undeath is a serious offense deserving of death on it's own. You could be a model citizen, but if you're an undead, according to Pelor, you should be destroyed.
Now, you can play the game however you like, but destroying undeath wherever you find it is Pelor's official stance.
Lawful good entities don't have to be merciful to every form of life because they don't primarily strive for mercy.
Lawful good entities are primarily about order. They have a set of ironclad rules that they believe will increase order in the world. Since they are "good" entities, their rules are usually about granting protection / salvation / mercy etc. to other good or neutral creatures. Since evil creatures usually work against those god's rules, most lawful good gods view evil creatures as beings that need to be punished. Heck, even some chaotic neutral or even chaotic good creatures would need to be punished according to them. Essebtially, the further away you are from their alignment, the less they give a shit about your life and who does what with it.
"The Order of the Platinum Dragon has a sterling reputation." I'm so glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that.
I used this entire arc in my campaign and it went very differently, my players accepted K'varn's invitation and waltzed right into the temple, where he did an evil monologue about how he'd been watching them for some time and sees capable warriors he offered them the chance to join him freely or die and join him anyway, they fought on solid ground around the elder brain and K'varn permanently killed and raised our Dragonborn Paladin as an undead but the killing blow dealt to K'varn was from our Aasimar Paladin who flew to the top of the cavern Yug'Voril was in and fell straight down onto K'varn smiting on impact with a Nat 20 killing a heavily damaged K'varn and herself in the process but she was revivified. Afterwards Clarota did not return to the hive mind due to both Paladins casting Atonement on him and making him good, he started to love his individuality and did not want to return to the hive mind but he did want to save his people from K'varn, so after K'varn and the zombified member of the party was slain, Clarota helped the party escape back to their home city and as a result went with them and they convinced him to join them, they spruced up his robes and gave him a staff they'd acquired that our wizard wasn't using. So Clarota became a DM Player Character until he died about a year and a half later at the hands of a disguised Lich's disintegration spell and my players were devastated as they'd grown quite attached to their mind flayer friend.
🥲 so good to see this. a great story
This is amazing *What Could Have Been, from Arcane starts playing*
That's awesome mate.
awesome, thanks for sharing
Yo, Imma be the third person to say "that's awesome" only 'cus it totally is!
Getting the entire episode spoiled by looking in the comments when im just trying to find the comment for when the episode starts :/
Btw it starts at 16:35
Edit: break ends at 2:22:25
Advice: next time use "ctrl + f" and search "begins" or "start at"
@@fran3ro jokes on you, I'm on my phone!
23:00-recap begins
Thank you for the time stamps
Bless you
Sam is completely done with Orion in the beginning of this.
As well he should be; as entertaining as he was at the beginning and occasionally playing Tiberius very well, hes kinda notorious as a dice fudger and cheater
I'm just watching these now, but man, you called it! That insanity during the last fight, (where Tibs left the fight to try to rally a hostile race to join in their fight against K'varn) pretty much sealed the deal for Sam. They're all friends, but damn... that was just too far out of bounds. Everyone was pissed at Orion... you can tell from their snarky comments between that game and this one. Grog was in serious trouble that fight, and Sorcerors can REALLY turn the tide when played right. Between 'running for congress' in Sam's words, (which had me laughing hysterically), and the never-ending pool of Orion's, "last three Sorceror points", I think even a good natured friend like Sam could be at the end of his rope.
@Dooley Versus I don't disagree with the thought of him doing what his character would do. But, character actions should absolutely be criticized, especially if the actions are going to be criticized in character. The party didn't know what Tiberius was doing, they just knew he wasn't there.
@Dooley Versus Aside from what Brett said, I think people are more annoyed with Orion's frustration/annoyance coming through Tiberius. He was undeniably snarky and mean during that last game, and only doubled down when people in the group started calling him down on it. At that point, it's pretty difficult to say Tiberius's actions were understandable, since they really just felt motivated by his annoyance with the group.
I don't know if any of this is true, but the point is I think it's fair that people criticise his actions, especially when any apparent motivation for trying to rally hostile monsters to fight K'varn (I really felt like Matt was being really nice and avoiding frustrating Orion further by not having them blast him out of the sky the moment he appeared, because of his persuasion roll).
You can tell by the convos going on in the background at the end of the last episode that there was a ton of drama going on. He looks like he is looking for a fix during that last episode.
Reposting for myself
23:11 - Game begins
26:33 - Scanlan questions Tiberius and asks why he wasn't with them when they needed him the most (28:54 - Tiberius whispers to Scanlan that he is with them)
27:02 - Tiberius casts "Silence" on Scanlan, which the latter instantly dispels
49:42 - Scanlan sings "grappled and stunned"
55:47 - Scanlan rolls a natural 20 (I like the way he shows that)
1:02:40 - Scanlan says that no one knew that Clarota was going to turn on them, to which Grog presents a counter-argument
1:19:43 - Scanlan makes a optimistic joke in response to Percy being pessimistic about an NPC attack
1:21:29 - Grog tells Scanlan to do what [????] tells him to do. I didn't catch this but it sounded funny.
1:21:41 - Scanlan runs up to Pike and sings a dimension door song
1:23:37 - Scanlan suggests putting Lady Kima (who is stone) into the bag of holding
1:33:16 - Tiberius makes a Lord of the Rings reference, "Fly, you fools!"
1:35:12 - The DM makes a suggestion
1:36:07 - Pike gives Scanlan a kiss on his cheek as her bonus action and an inspiration die is awarded
1:37:10 - Vax gives Percy a kiss on the cheek as his bonus action but no inspiration die is awarded
1:46:46 - Scanlan pours his healing potion down Pike's throat as a bonus action.... [does anyone else think his flirting is getting a little out of hand?]
2:01:11 - Scanlan sings a flying song
2:19:47 - Pub crawl!
[2:31:45 - End of break, Part 2 begins]
2:39:05 - Scanlan turns Tiberius into a rat when the latter says he's heading to bed. Tiberius heads to bed as a rat.
3:09:58 - Friend-zone
3:11:00 - Game ends
Thank you so much!!!
thank you!!!
Yes, his flirting is getting a little creepy. He has a wife. Roleplay is one thing but he takes it too far.
god bless
Awesome, greatly appreciated comrade. Have a bump
(Last Session)
Orion: "I spend five sorcerer points and I do telekinesis..."
Matt: "How many sorcery points do you have?"
Orion: "That's it after that."
(This Session, which starts right where the last one left off)
Orion: "And I'm going to use my last three sorcerer points that I have, and I have zero points after this..."
Admittedly, I don't play a sorcerer and may have missed him sacrifice a spell slot or something along the way but still...never been a huge fan of Tiberius. Though when Laura tries to subtly ask Orion about it he doesn't seem to give an explanation about where the points came from, only that he definitely had enough to do what he needed to. Also far from the first or last time that his turns seem weird. Sus gaming aside, Tiberius makes me wince almost every time he does anything. I know the guy was going through some stuff, but I can't imagine how he would have fit into the dynamic they have nowadays. You could cut the tension at the table with a knife.
He actually had -1 sorcery points at the start of the episode too, which sucks.
@@Dave004 Narcissists seldom, if ever, change for the better. Life has taught that lesson very harshly to me.
I literally came to the comment section to ask about that. I thought he said that he used the last 5 last game but wasn't sure.
I play sorcerer and to clear up any confusion I announce to the DM when I sacrifice spell slots for sorcery points, the fact he doesn’t makes him suspect of cheating
@@youshallnotpass567 ditto. Since converting spell slots to sorcery points and vice versa requires a bonus action and just to make sure everyone’s on the same page, I always announced that. It’s like not calling sharpshooter or great weapon master and then once you roll you just say, “oh yeah, that was GWM.” Like that’s not how it’s supposed to work
This entire campaign, all of which was underground and most of which was in the Underdark, carried such a feeling of doom and evil that suddenly teleporting to a city and having to deal with some administration issues completely took me off guard.
The part where Kima was able to sleep without armor made me feel SO happy
atleast of what we can see of the campaign
If there's one secret I'll ever want to know about Critical Role, it's what Clarota's telepathic conversation with the other mind flayers actually was
"Hey bros, I killed K'varn who was controlling the Elder Brain. Also I brought snacks. Can I be in the club again?"
New brain, who dis?
@@diegorodrigues2685 I lol'd.
I brought yum yums.
Scanlan runs up to Pike, grabs her hand and says, "I want to have babies with you"
Pike takes 4 points of "Perv" damage
Dude you're making me laugh so hard XD
Also take 10 points of cringe damage.
And 5 more because plate armer
WALNUT DIO and disadvantage on her saving throw
@@nealeellis4455 no advantage - inbuilt chastity belt
just now getting into CR and im living for the image of vox machina tumbling into this room, covered in their own and other’s ichor, carrying a stone woman, a bear, a pterodactyl, and nearly dead cleric and just going “oh hey um- we’re here to talk to the emperor” and the person working there just being like “oh okay sure” and believing that shit
Same! That was a hilarious image lol.
I'm in a similar situation lmao
It's a smart man. He knows he isn't paid enough for this shit so he don't ask questions
Orion: "I cast fly on myself"
Scanlan: "bye Tiberius!"
Everyone: *laughs*
Seriously all Orion does is run away hahaha
hahaha, hah, heh... hoo...... oh................
Uuuuuuhhhh..... Yeeeeeeah.... Why do I suddenly feel uncomfortable?
Hey self preservation is a strong motivator.
I dislike some of his actions too but they should've left when he did. Vex and Trinket got mind blasted for being tardy and only got saved Mercer was creative with the vines coming from the carpet. He also teleported them away. I disliked a lot of what he did these last 2 sessions but that move made sense.
@@mikealjohnsson I mean last session he was screwed over by the DM for being a team player and then everybody jumped on him. He wasted a slot on trinket the useless bear volunteered for the giant drop even though he didn't like the plan. Then was sidelined for two rounds as Matt actively tried to skip his turn and not let him play at all. Saying the carpet has fixed movement and can't be used to dash after the previous turn where he said it took his whole turn to fly down. Then the group starts complaining like it was his fault he was sidelined for two turns after he did their plan. Percy saying you're not here when according to Matt he couldn't physically get there in his two turns. Laura calling him a dick because he was actively getting targeted and shut down by the DM. Of course he acted like an asshole after that. I would have too.
Funny how Grog is the dumbest one of the group (you don't count, Trinket) and IRL I think Travis is the smartest one. When he goes OOC he comes up with the most reasonable ideas.
omegagilgamesh I think a bear has higher than 6 intelligence
@@ryanu8519 A bear has an intelligence of 2.
Lol I play the Barbarian in my group and I have a lot of frustration because I'll notice things that I can't act upon because I'm a Barbarian
Travis is undoubtedly pretty smart, but I think Liam, Taliesin, and Laura all have equally intelligent moments. It seems like Liam tends to have the clearest idea of where the overall story is going (and the most cautious mind), Laura tends to be a pretty quick thinker in the moment, and Taliesin is a damn Elder God who has 4000+ years of wisdom to impart every time he opens his mouth.
@@OverkillDM That's.... actually pretty much perfect XD
(Grog throws axe at Clarota)
Me: Oof.
(Vex shots him with arrows)
Me: He's gonna die.
(Percy blows his head apart)
Me: He's so dead.
(Scanlan smears him across the ground with a brass cage)
Me: He's so very dead.
(Tiberius nukes the room with fireball)
Me: Can anyone be deader than that guy? Gee.
Betrayal not even once kids or you could end up like poor Clarota.
Vox Machina were NOT taking chances with that rat bastard.
My one regret is that Kima didn't get the satisfaction of watching.
You forgot Vax stepped on his maybe-existent balls
Forgot about Vax stepping on his balls
Grog: "im gonna play with myself in the dark"
also Grog: "that came out wrong"
*also Grog*: *does jerking motion*
32:54
"curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"
it's the underdark what did you expect? a werewolf? there's only draegloth down there if you want that and those are technically almost-demons (for game purposes they are demons)...i get a lot of my bestiary knowledge from DDO even though i have several DnD bestiary books for several different editions lying around here somewhere
Huzzah
Matt at 1:17:45, realizing how close he just came to killing his friend and eating her brain. Priceless.
gringocatalan this is a late reply to this comment but I like how he says “if WE didn’t kill him this turn...” kindve a Freudian slip letting you know he’s rooting for them even when actively trying to kill them :’)
Classic dm move
@@TheBlackGhost0 Any good dm is rooting with the players. They are simply guiders but they love the players who create their universe.
that what true friends do
5 years late reply: that is a weird sentence out of context
I like to think that Clarence was completely honest about everything he told the party but once the hive mind gained control, whatever individuality he was gaining was lost
+ He established a very frail bond with them, it’s not an easy choice to instantly contradict the herd when you’re on shaky footing with them which is the best your relationship has been in... your entire existence.
I feel the same way. I am going through the content for the first time. I love Clarence, but I think the hive mind killed his budding personality
Nah, I think that's just too optimistic. He IS a mindflayer, at the end of the day, and, having got what he wanted already, what use had he still for them?
@@peterparker8462 I think Matt actually confirmed what OP was saying. He genuinely hated the hive but even his own will wasn’t strong enough when they got close too the hive mind
@@georgegideon3788 Really? That makes me even more sad. I was bummed out he betrayed the group and killed like he was just another mob.
47:04 LMAO Liam: "You don't get a guitar solo every turn." He is *done* with Orion. Good riddance.
And then he says “this was saving your ass man” like vax is a helpless npc incapable of doing anything
I use my last three sorcerer points after using my last five sorcerer points
Bardic Inspiration was also mysteriously refreshed between episodes. Oh well.
He could also use a spell slot to regain Sorcery Points (as a bonus action). He should obviously say that and there's a good chance he's cheating. But it's not impossible he had five more points.
@@thesweenarrow details?
@@paulm3952 It is impossible , because he specifically said that he used the last 5 points to use telekenisis to take out the horn.
@@AlexDudeCrazy You can expend spell slots to get points back.
It's also possible he didn't mark it down correctly and forgot between weeks. Sam/Scanland forgot he used up all his inspirations before the battle and started giving them out again. These things do happen.
Clarota lost all semblance of choice when his helmet was removed. I'm really sad to see him go, he was such a fun character :(
Mary Recall I think it reconnected him to the hive mind. Sad, but what he wanted. Oh cruel but inevitable.
Year old, but atleast he died a happy mindflayer
According to Clarota, mind flayers retained their individuality even when connected to the hive brain, so more than likely he simply made the choice to betray them at the most opportune time, when their usefulness had run out. He got what he wanted, and convincing the other mind flayers not to attack might have been too much of a bother. After all, when he reconnected, they would have become well aware of the party's help in freeing them from K'Varn. But Illithid are not very friendly. They used to have an empire of mind-controlled slaves that spanned the planes. To them, even as helpful as they were, the party was nothing more than tasty morsels to be had.
Why didnt Tiberius used his telekinesis to put the helmet back on Clarato's head? Maybe, just maybe it would go back to being their ally without the hive in his head. :(
Who knows what would have happened if they had destroyed the Elder Brain before killing Clarota. Maybe he would have been a legitimately good person.
Sam's "I would like to raise" joke was underappreciated!
Me from the moment they met Clarota: He's going to betray them
Me when Clarota betrays them: *Surprise*
same...
I actually had hope he would convince the other mindflayers to let them leave in peace. The betrayal saddened me a little bit even though I shoulda known better lol
Todricc_Pelt_Fandoms
I mean, it’s a Mind Flayer, an objectively evil abberation. I liked Clarota and the way Matt played him; but the only response to a Mind Flayer is nuking it from orbit.
@@ninboy01 but still the fact that clarence was rejected from his people and seemed genuinely amused by Vox machina gave me a little hope lol
@@AzLolFun Clarence, I'm dying
Maybe he betrayed them for that. And the puns.
1:38:23 “Percy and Vax, Ship It!” - Liam
I love Liam so, so very much!! I love these Emo Boys!!
It’s even funnier thinking that Percy ends up Liking Vex bro fr could have had both twins 🤷🏾♀️
16:03 End of intro.
23:10 Recap.
2:31:46 Return from intermission.
Is there any way this can be moved to the top? I had to scroll through all the spoilers to find it lol
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Bump.... WHY IS THIS NOT NEAR THE TOP?!?
Really annoyed this wasn’t higher because I didn’t get to it until they’d made it back to their city, after having most of the stuff spoiled. I’m liking and commenting to move it up in the pecking order.
Take a shot every time Orion argues with someone.
alcohol poisoning halfway through the episode
instructions perfectly clear: I ended up in the back of an ambulance
Bowt half way throg the episode. Imma bit dronk.
Now somebody takes care of my hospital bill with the liver failure 😂
I'm reporting you for attempted murder.
May I just say, I love the phrase "lying through his noodles". Along with the accompanying Zoidberg hand movement XD
I'm pretty sad that Clarota died but it immediately made me laugh XD
I know this came out years ago, but Vox amazes me sometimes. I mean I love these guys, but it took them all of 10 seconds to trust a mind flayer, but a paladin folk hero needs a full team sit down to decide if they trust or not.
I noticed as well. Keylith particularly vexes me with her church-hate. Pike is a cleric! Do you not trust her either?!
If I had to guess I would say that Marsha is an atheist and that her hatred for religion is being portrayed through Keylith's distrust of all good alligned characters who have any sort of involvement with the Church.
And it turns out that the Illithid is evil. Didn't see that coming at all. Ok I suck at sarcasm. Don't judge me.
@@aarondavis7391 Her smug face after saying "Right, because no one of the church has ever been bad before." seems to give some validity to your theory.
I mean we could always asume that Kima was right and the group was indeed being mind charmed by Clarinet
Clarota betrayed them? CLASSIC Illithid move!
Lol I was really hoping that was going become a thing.
Et tu Clarence?
Did he even have a choice? If the elder brain wills it can an illithid reject its command?
claaaaaasic
Elliot Carey well, he had the tin foil hat thing. No idea if that would help
i love when Travis says “nah Tiberius has a plan, right?” and Orion nods his head all confidently, not picking up the sarcasm AT ALL
To be fair i didnt ether lol
didn't seem like sarcasm to me, I think travis just assumed magic could remedy the situation as it had many times before with Tiberius and Keyleth both pulling the group out of what would have been nasty situations
I think that Orion's just playing into his elderly character, who just dismisses or passes sarcasm because he doesn't detect it. I mean. Tiberius does state, in his backstory, that he can be forgetful or something on the level- that he's sharp. He's got a personality, Orion's just playing it.
@@dediniath6009 Tiberius is 24.
@@TommyStonebraker That guy is right though, Tiberius isn't old but he does literally have FOUR wisdom. His wisdom is much lower than Grog's intelligence.
Percy: It's over Clarota, I have the high ground!
Clarota: You underestimate my power!
What's up with Clarota and star wars references? I do not understand :|
Everyone just keeps doing that XD
Critical Roll is awesome, Star Wars is awesome. It was bound to happen
@@soldier1stclass640
I guess 😂
@@supportyourself3861 it's because he was the chosen one, we loved him
@@captainbirch9835 Yeah, I know. I loved him too >_
Liam says it all. ''You don't get a guitar solo every turn''. Meaning, you can't do everything Orion. He wants the spotlight so much. -_-
a bit after 46:50
"That's stupid"
"That's how it works..."
That's rich coming from Taliesin though. His only real contribution to the show up to this point is a "I do big numbers to bad guys" heavy hitter. Outside of combat his Percy is practically mute and just follows the party around waiting for the next battle.
@@mingodingo He crafts bombs, specialty arrow, and other items for the others as well, though. He also made a camouflage cloak from the cloaker creature and he anchored the boat in an earlier episode with his ice shot (both utility outside combat).
On your actual comment, to say that calling someone out on hoarding spotlight is rich coming from him, while also saying he mutely follows the party is a bit contradictary.
@@Soggy2002I'm not saying he does nothing outside combat I'm saying he doesn't really do anything to add to the funnest aspect of the game. Even your counterexamples are cold in-game utility contributions.
Percy mutely follows the party. Taliesin speaks, this is dnd. There's a difference.
@@mingodingo I think Taliesin was a little bit quiet, but you will see how good of a DM Matt is with the next story arc. Taliesin didn't talk a lot so he included him more in the story.
Public service announcement: DO NOT GO INTO COMMENTS! SPOILERS! SAVE YOURSELVES FROM THE PAIN OF KNOWING!
unless you finished the episode already, then do what you want ✌
Too late...
Okay I’ll stop 🛑✌️
I love you thank you
You can't tell me what to do! You're not my real dad!
A few episodes ago.
Lady Kima: He is going to betray us!
Vox Machina: No he won't!
Now.
Clarota: *betrays them*
Vox Machina: *shocked pikachu faces*
Also Vox machina: let’s not tell Kima
@@n0rdfive0h95 well who wants to hear “I told you so”
They should have smashed statue kima tbh
I totally never saw it coming.
They didn't consider that mind flayers have EXTREMELY HIGH mental manipulation. They can easily deceive anyone.
I started with campaign 2... every time there's whispers I expect Sam to say "Guys, DnD Beyond..."
These whispers brought to you by... Who are whispers brought by? DwarvenForge? Sure
I keep expecting the 🎶making your way….🎶
Matt: Nott, you're up
Sam: *anxious goblin shriek*
No.. I just realised how many episodes are on their website..
You don't understand, I've been watching these nonstop for three days now. But it was over, I could get back to my life.
Until I discovered this.
Oh god..
+Jakob “Bulbapuck” Karlsson In the same boat buddy
+Jakob „Bulbapuck“ Karlsson oh my god........imma loose my job if this continues >.
+Jakob “Bulbapuck” Karlsson Holy Hell.... 10 episodes ahead on the website...
+Jakob “Bulbapuck” Karlsson And they are still lifestreaming.... I am fucked my life is over
+Jakob “Bulbapuck” Karlsson Im in the same boat but i never want it to end! haha
People rip on Orion a lot, but I think we all know the only perfect player and character in this whole series is Travis and Grog.
Big Mclargehuge I. WOULD LIKE. TO- *communal shouting* RAGE.
Big Mclargehuge Orion SUCKS
@@Marnmirjarl Orion was pretty good until that beholder fight. That bit was just cringey and infuriating
Actually, seeing how Travis constantly makes OOC decisions for the group and the fact that Grog occasionally acts like he has Travis' lvl of intelligence, I would disagree. This does only happen when Travis shits himself though (like against K'varn).
@@filipferencak2717 because you always speak and plan in character when playing D&D. Give me a break.
"Oh man, episode 13, I must be deep in, I wonder how many-"
*sees 115 episodes and some one-offs*
"Hm."
And then there are 107 episodes so far of Campaign 2...
@@BookwyrmEDS 115 episodes in Campaign 1, 120 and growing in Campaign 2, a ton of great one-shots... One day I'll have watched everything Critical Role has to offer, but today is not that day 😂
@@isaacstevens1912 141 of c2
@@Tots_ Oh and now there's c3 with 35 episodes
Just did the same thing 😂
RIP clarence I was too attached despite my creeping awareness of your inevitable betrayal
Same here
It's CLAROTA! Hsss
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
He got a whole character arc and everything. This sucks.
Curse your sudden-but-inevitable betrayal!
Vax kissing Percy on the cheek was goddamned hilarious.
Lucas Davis, Scanlan has a long-standing crush. Matt even said if they kept this up, dice would be forthcoming ^_^
Tiberius, speaking about Percy: "Damned Tiamat lover"
Taliesin: *"what does that even mean" face*
Heh. Was Tiamat even a thing in Tal'Dorei?
Dragishawk She is. Without spoiling anything, VM meets one of her paladins.
@@dragishawk She appears in the Tal'Dorei campaign guide referred to by her epithet, "The Scaled Tyrant."
@@dragishawk Tiamat and Bahamut are siblings and each is a nemesis to the other. Kima is a Paladin of Bahamut and, being a dragonborn, Tiberius venerates him. I supposed Matt could have left her out but it's a set that seems pointless to break up. Also when you have an open DM input from PCs often shapes the world.
Nicol Bolas Hey! You again.
I was gonna add that Hupperduke is a prime example of your last sentence. And Essek’s Segway.
That went from 0 to "mommy and daddy are fighting at the dinner table" real quick
Holy goodness, that Tiberius/Scanlan tension right off the bat!! Man, I thought the tension was kind of diffused with that light episode in the middle, but noooope.... uff da!
The interaction in Episode 12 (DM Tips) makes it clear that “an offline conversation with Orion” happened off-screen - he’s falling all over himself saying “I was playing wrong, I was too scared, I was certain Matt was trying to kill us” - shame the reconciliation only lasted seven more days.
Percy takes off on Magic Carpet - Taliesin just stares at Orion. You can almost hear him think
: "Sucks don't it?"
you people try to create drama where it's not. Tiberius is the first one flying away with his Fly spell that he had casted before percy got on the carpet. But yeah, Percy's looking at Tiberius and sneering at him... grow up and just watch the damn show.
Orion sycophant spotted.
@@Mephiston Nope, just being objective. Tell me, which part of my comment wasn't objective? I like all of the characters and just simply don't create drama.
If anyone is somehow emotionally invested it's the OP for totally obviously making up drama and situations, and you for calling me a sycophant based on me correcting a blatant lie.
@@taRomi93 The part where you deny there is any issue with Orion and his metagaming shenanigans. I mean, you're looking into a throwaway comment too much, which makes me wonder if I hit a nerve for the speed at which you were tripping over yourself to try and establish a moral highground.
@@Mephiston Right, so once again, where exactly did I do that? I simply stated that Tiberius wasn't even there cuz he had already flown away, when supposedly Percy looked at him sneering. So please, explain where did I say ANYTHING about Orion's behaviour.
Dammit, Clarota, I liked you! (insert heartbroken Obi-Wan Kenobi gif here)
"You were my brother Clarota, I loved you"
"You were supposed to destroy the Illithid, not join them!"
+ChaoticQuiet NC *unintelligible angry growling
oh fuk spoiler warning next time pls
This video is more than half a year old; also the comments are for discussion of the video... ppl should know to expect spoilers
I knew it was coming, and when it happened I literally jumped out of my seat and started hopping around yelling out, "I knew it! I KNEW it!!"
I really love how creative Keyleth is, not everything works out all the time but she uses so many different approaches ! (she is not the only one to do it but yeah using the vine to get stunned Trinket was really clever I think)
Marisha's creativity in combat is a highlight of each campaign for me, culminating in Laudna's crafting of insane, horror-movie level uses for spells. No wonder she is the creative director!
Tiberius has a secret bag of extra “last 3 sorcery points” he keeps dipping into
Yeah... I've been watching these for the first time, and for sure... he's cheating. Unless I'm totally off on his character's level, (and even if he's burned every 1st level spell slot in favor of Sorceror points), he's still way over-limit between rests. That's not even including his meta-magic insanity from that last fight. I think he got away with it for as long as he did because he was their friend. After awhile, they all knew, (you can see when he's in a turn and they give a look to the camera), but I don't think they wanted to take action because of their friendships.
It also seems like Matt knows that but isn’t comfortable challenging him on it anymore. Kinda seems like everyone at the table knows because there’s a weird energy when it’s his turn. I’m looking forward to whatever point the group reach the dynamics they have in campaign 2.
Tiberius is the most annoying character/player to be at a table with
Tbf he wasn't over using his sorcery points... he pulled one of the spells from his head slot (which he stored telepathy) then used his last 3 spells to cast fly and teleport.
The fireball came from his ring so doesn't count.
Michael Mclellan No because he carries items in which he can store spells (his ring and his head slot)... and Fly and Teleport he doesn’t need sorcery points for so he didn’t actually use any.
Yeah I can see why Orion was so annoying. He doesn't listen to his party at all, and he's generally negative and self-centred. Really not conducive to a good team player
Didn't start that way. He was my favorite for the first half dozen or so episodes.
Mac Seigel yeah I liked him for a few episodes too. I like his blustering awkwardness and “... from Draconia!”.
It’s just too bad it morphed into something else
Mac Seigel
This.
RainbowByt3s We need to make Cannon within the fandom the “Tiberius Arc” which goes from Ep. 11 to Ep. 27 about the Lovable Sorcerers’ Descent into Senility.
orion had cancer. During the time of these episodes he was going through chemo
Poor Sam, sitting at the end of the table, not able to have funny conversations with the rest of the party. His and Orion's body language is something else! I'm so happy to see Sam and Laura in c2 casually bullshitting with eachother each episode
Kinda weird, but Sam is one of the only guys who still follows orion on Twitter.
What happend between the group and him ?
@@florito8858 google it, but it was not O vs group problem
@@Siberiabird It was, sort of. But Orion is still a shitty person and a metagamer who had to be the sole hero of the adventure. Basically he played a multi person RPG as a single player game.
@@Mephiston Not to mention, being a thief, stealing from charity, abusement of multiple girlfriends with video evidence, being shitty to fans to the point of the rest of the group having to clean up the mess and on and on.
Marisha trying her hardest to be nice to orion and keep him in the fold but you can see from last episode he had started to loose em
This episode he was loosing others and had lost Sam
These next 15 episodes are going to be a chore I think
First time watching, and cringing from Orion since the first episode, ngl I'm gonna enjoy the underhanded roasts burns and backhands until the egotistical twat is finally booted
Percy has single-handedly carried the entire encounter - including k’varn - with his moves 😅 if it weren‘t for him, they‘d all be dead
No Mercy Percy 🥰
first time watching from the start and percy really shone this fight before this i honestly kept forgetting that he was even there, ive seen some clips from later on and see him standing out a lot more which im happy about cos im loving percy
So if they didnt homebrew his class in there. Mercer would have killed off the entire party
Quietly just propping the whole thing up
Compared to Mr loud look at me
Well according to Tiberius that's a load of poppycock because CLEARLY he's the only reason they survived the whole encounter
I can now see why Pike and Grog are such good friends. They are experts at constantly skirting around the clutches of death!
I swear Percy's story gets me in the feels every time.
Yes!!! It's the best Backstory, amd the pacing of it is perfection!
Kinda reminds me of the dragon age origins human noble backstory. One of my faves
Watching this in 2023 after baldurs gate as someone who is completely new to this world and wants to learn.
Orion is nice to have so I can see a clear cut example of how not to play and act lol
just like me fr
HEY NEW HERE AS WELL
@@altgus6501I'm watching for the second go round. Always cool seeing new people in this amazing community. I hope you enjoy the journey.
IM NEW AS WELL
and i thought I'm alone bingeing all episodes hahaha
As someone with a biology background, I fucking love the part where Keylith uses Control Water to damage the Elder Brain on the basis of "brains have water in them". Dehydration of any part of a body fucks you up real bad and most people don't realize what a versatile weapon spells like that are.
As another bio/med background. I would agree. But I've heard DMs/WOtC usually rule that 'tool' spells don't directly damage. Otherwise I would have Shape Water every time and run the table with most fiends.
@@Reepicheep-1 It's a fair ruling - the spell states that you need to see the water, and it's reasonable to say you cannot see water when it is contained within cells.
I'd be totally open to someone using shape water aggressively in the right circumstances (e.g. dropping a 100 litres of water on someone's head all at once is likely to hurt), but not with dehydration.
Why does the party seem to forget that Kima is a paladin of Bahamut, an objectively good god, and Clarota was a MIND FLAYER!
Clarence was simply to charming
Completely based on first impressions.
Kima also seems judgey
@@anthonyfigueroa7585 Paladins are judgey by nature...they're arbiters of justice after all.
NOT ONLY THAT, but they don’t let her turn out of stone on their first FUCKING NIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT FUCKING CAVERN!!! Like she’s been TORTURED FOR WEEKS IN THERE, let her have a fucking night, come on!
Take a shot every time Orion says "I'm fine!/I was fine!" Whenever the team point out how hard something was
You trying to give people alchohol poisoning?!? 😠
@@sorignhasword3651 the more drunk ya get, the less annoying hearing it is! 😂👌
"Kima would help us, but she's stoned."
Damn. Couldn't she have waited til after the battle to burn one?
No comments on this amazing joke? Let me change that real quick.
Laura : glares at travis for saying '' i came in my pants '' Also laura : spends the next 5 years of DnD giggling at and making anything she can perverted.
Smilingbear He said caked btw
@@someonefromsomewhere1009 yeah, her objection was that "I caked my pants" is icky. Which it is. :)
2 years late but i'm pretty sure "caked my pants" means "shit my pants"
@@tybronx2446 I mean, it doesn’t really matter, Laura Bailey of all people complaining about that? That’s the biggest sin if I’ve ever seen one.
That was her villain origin story.
Can I just say that I'm really digging Taliesin just casually flipping the toy gun
This whole adventure would make an amazing comic or animated series. I've been writing for years, and i can't imagine how Matt improvises such good writing in reaction to all their actions and decisions
Now 2 years later it is a comic lol
@@silassketches6741 where do I find it!
@@lukehicks6722 I need to know also!
Hehehe
my dude u have no idea how right u were haha
Honestly i love Talisan bc he's so good at coming up with iconic lines. 1:11:9 'SOME PEOPLE HAVE NO SENSE OF FUCKING HONOUR'
1:11:09
Percy came up huge in the last two episodes
He and Tiberius are the most underrated characters in this show so far lol.
I was so confused as to why Pike's plate armor is so bad but she has 13 Strength when you need 15 to wear plate armor without disadvantages. It's not really worth the +2 AC if you keep failing everything.
I know this post is 2 years old, but regardless.
Failing to meet the Strength requirement for Armor reduces your Speed. The disadvantage to stealth occurs for anyone who wears armor that lists Stealth as having disadvantage, regardless of their Strength.
Matt also throws that disadvantage onto other things, like Acrobatics, most likely as a holdover from Pathfinder.
At about 1:54:30 orion tries to lie to scanland about the damage of his fireball and a minute after that he looks it up in the book and you can clearly see that he lied
good pick up
It's amazing that Orion lasted 14 more episodes after this one.
Yeah, this is painful to watch
He makes me kinda not want to watch. So I’m glad he leaves
Same
@@stephengreene3921 Yeah, the tension is actually making me uncomfortable. I want to watch every single episode to not miss out, but could I skip some for the sake of saving me some cringe?
@@MaxisGameplays i’m having the same feeling, but all i’ve seen is to entirely skip ep 27 because it was apparently a shit show of an episode, and you’ll be happier to not have to watch it.
23:11 - Game begins
26:33 - Scanlan questions Tiberious and asks why he wasn't with them when they needed him the most (28:54 - Tiberious whispers to Scanlan that he is with them)
27:02 - Tiberous casts "Silence" on Scanlan, which the latter instantly dispels
49:42 - Scanlan sings "grappled and stunned"
55:47 - Scanlan rolls a natural 20 (I like the way he shows that)
1:02:40 - Scanlan says that no one knew that Kerota was going to turn on them, to which Grogg presents a counter-argument
1:19:43 - Scanlan makes a optimistic joke in response to Percy being pessimistic about an NPC attack
1:21:29 - Grogg tells Scalan to do what [????] tells him to do. I didn't catch this but it sounded funny.
1:21:41 - Scanlan runs up to Pike and sings a dimension door song
1:23:37 - Scanlan suggests putting Lady Kema (who is stone) into the bag of holding
1:33:16 - Tiberius makes a Lord of the Rings reference "Fly, you fools!"
1:35:12 - The DM makes a suggestion
1:36:07 - Pike gives Scanlan a kiss on his cheek as her bonus action and an inspiration die is awarded
1:37:10 - Vax gives Percy a kiss on the cheek as his bonus action but no inspiration die is awarded
1:46:46 - Scanlan pours his healing potion down Pikes throat as a bonus action.... [does anyone else think his flirting is getting a little out of hand?]
2:01:11 - Scanlan sings a flying song
2:19:47 - Pub crawl!
[2:31:45 - End of break, Part 2 begins]
2:39:05 - Scanlan turns Tiberius into a rat when the latter says he's heading to bed. Tiberius heads to bed as a rat.
3:09:58 - Friend-zone
3:11:00 - Game ends
+Blake Dale It sounds like Grogg says "coke can".
Kira Lemons It sound like "co-captain" or "co-cap" to me lol. What does coke can mean in this context? Is that an American saying?
+Blake Dale "Co-cap" would make more sense. I was just making kind of a wild guess.
Kira Lemons :)
+Blake Dale Coke cans, at least here, have different sayings printed on their sides, I believe last year there were prints with choose to be happy or be happy or something on it. The fact that he went to Pike and saved her, I assumed that's what he meant.
Looked it up, they were printed with "Choose Happiness" and "Open Happiness" in 2015 apparently, so I was close.
Orion keeps lying about his sorcery points...Laura even noticed at 1:09 mouthing “I don’t think he has any sorcery points left” across the table
1:09:00 but yes he had used them all last game and even in that one I think he used more than he should have had.
@@stephens021 Oh my god, her face during that was heartbreaking. I will admit she gets to be a bit too much for me, especially anytime Trinket is involved, but that face just screamed "You're ruining this...".
@@PapaKroeger And the look over to Liam who can only throw his hands up at this point... they all just seem so tired with it. And when they do get excited, he’s so sour. Like Jeez, clearly no one is having fun here...
Wow I never noticed that! I didn’t realize the cast was on to him cheating. I thought they were just frustrated with his being an ahole
@@somethingsomethingsomethingdarI think they were. I knew from episode…three? going in that he had been fudging rolls, so I went into this with that in mind, and watching them for that was far more telling, if you watch everyone watch him. I don’t think they were tweeting or getting on phones for no reason - I think they were checking in with each other or Matt over spell slots or his rolls. (Which, incidentally, his spell slot management I noticed before I looked into why I didn’t see him in the animated series - that’s what led to me discovering why he was gone later in the DnD sessions)
Grog’s being held prisoner by like an 80 pound dude!
While raging he shoudv'e had advantage on str checks so that was poorly exeuted.
"Let's go back to the part where Jayne gets knocked out by a 90-pound girl, 'cause I don't think that's ever gonna get old!"
Wash, "Serenity" (2005)
@@matsh5633 that got me too. Grog failed two very key rounds in that grapple.
I think Marisha is under appreciated for both this episode and on the 11th one, since she was giving it to Orion straight up while others were talking all the while trying to keep a light atmosphere among them. That must have been so mentally and emotionally taxing.
"Oh, we had the best defense mechanism! Grog!"
"Hello, Lady Kima."
I'm in tears.