Condemn? Obviously you’re not a parent. It’s called #StatutoryRape. He definitely should not have been let in the pulpit, again! He made no true confession, he even hid the sin (he said she was a “young lady”, she was a young 12-year old girl), the no legal consequence for statutory rape. No pastor should be in the pulpit with any legal, ungodly sins. They can repent, in front of the church congregation as the Bible requires, but they are let go from the church; NOT let back into the leadership position again!!
ABSOLUTELY‼️ And, how about PASTOR ROBISON??? ALL those “prosperity preachers” are actors and actresses, performer crooks. This story makes me sick, as a 72 yr old divorced woman of a verbal and emotional abuser, Robert Morris is a cowardly, insecure little mama’s boy in a grown man’s body, USING GOD for riches.
Do you think capital punishment by beheading for him raping her last week is too severe. The 14 year old boy had no money but the victim may accept his head in a box. You never know.
He who is without sin --- let him cast the first stone. Forgive and you shall be forgiven. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord. When people are young and immature, many fall into sin and with Christian maturity, they overcome these temptations. In a world where Jesus died for us all, it is better to "judge not, lest you be judged" and forgive without demanding millions of dollars.
Perhaps the time limit for when charges can be pressed has long since passed. Kind of like what happened with former U.S. Speaker of the House (R), Dennis Hastert who allegedly abused members of the high school wrestling team where he was a coach.
Right! If he did this to his FRIEND'S DAUGHTER... risking being caught, what else did he do? Now we're just supposed to believe hin when he claims he is "pure"?
@@lelabrooks04 BIG TIME! This crap happens too often in religious communities and it sucks. I left the church at 15 over hypocrisy and abuse myself. This bs idea that God fixes every damn thing is bs. Plain bs. Men are men, period. God gave us free will. Karma is a thing and here it is in his face, and yes those idiots have already supported him and decided he was cured! Ugh. Let’s watch them circle the wagons and double down. I suspect more victims will come forward and if that happens the Church will have to lawyer up. They probably have. Meanwhile I hope she has, and I also hope she files charges. If not mistaken Texas has no limit on sexual assault of minors as far as time is concerned.
@@jeffreymartin6369 You're at least close as to real reason this is coming up 40 years after the fact. Too bad he's not an actor who can just flee to Europe and keep getting awards and accolades from his peers. O, wait, that's ok, my bad. 🤣
He groomed that child for over four years and then tried to convince her to have sex with him. That it is a crime. He should have been held accountable and permanently stepped down from ministry.😢
He needs to go to jail he not only broke God’s law he broke Man law that prohibits this deranged behavior. Trial should start soon ~ 4, years of conditioning a child under the age of 14, is pedophile behavior I’m sure there’s more victims since he told her to stay quite where’s the justice for this victim?
That’s what the Devil wants…the closure of his church. He who casts the first stone…. Christ demands forgiveness. She is a liar. She said she forgave. This is no Christ-like woman. She’s stirring up hatred and retaliation.
@@karendeck1343you need to self reflect on this and come to your senses. You are in the position of defending a sexual predator of children. Your compass is broken. These are crimes that have been committed.
Above reproach would mean if you owe someone in the congregation 10 bucks for 6 months you better get that cleared up. You don't get to even steal 10 bucks much less anything of more significance.
@@Howiefaam31459 speaking of which, I certainly feel the least that Hillsong can do in the aftermath is Change Its Name! (Id feel so uneasy still hanging around servicing that church brand name) With that branding intact.. wonder if there are royalties etc flowing back to the still honoured founders of that "global" church..
He runs a false church. This man is not a true shepherd and neither are those elders who did not turn him into the police when all this took place. They have brought shame on The name of God. No wonder the world looks at all believers like we are stupid.
Haven’t I seen him on Daystar? Broadcasting around the world? And now with prez Joni Lamb married to a sex therapist? Supporting Tiffany Smiley for HR in WA?🤮🤮🤮👹👹🤬🥵🍄🍄
This was kissing and Inappropriately touching which occurred 4O years ago BEFORE he became a Devout Christian. He claims No Intercourse. Regardless the behavior was still sinful and No excuses . He had since repented of it and DECADES ago when this past behavior came light he admitted it openly and went through the process of seeking forgiveness from the lady, her parents, the elders of the church etc and was disciplined. Nothing about this is New- except the foolishness of CNN and Democrats who are resurrecting the story and condemning TRUMP for allowing Robert Morris to be one of his Supporters- Sinners condemning OTHERs! SHAME ON CNN and MSNBC and Democrats along with their American political Media MAFIA😮😮😮
No ,you do not have an understanding of God's Word. First of all it was the parents that decided not to go to the police not the church. You should probably think about the sins from your past Have you ever even repented? If you have do you know those sins are as far as the east is from the west?
@@carolynnmarkiewicz6015you are obviously one of the problems. Yes we are all sinners and we can all be forgiven but it does not mean we are not subject to consequences or the law. We can love the sinner and hate the sin but noone should have allowed him to return to leadership and risk a repeat offense.
Wow, and yet he's the Pastor and on screens all over and a millionaire living in a mansion and on vacation at this moment, it's Pastor like him that make us Christians wonder what is truth and what is lies. With all the people on the streets, homeless and starving he has no business being on vacation or being a millionaire. He does not even preach half of the time or more than half of the time he has all these people coming in doing the preaching but yet he's a millionaire He should be doing the work of God and walking the streets, giving people food, giving people tents , helping people figure out their situations, he's a millionaire Pastor on vacation and now this news comes out, shame on him
his sin is horrible but does it invalidate what God is to you? I mean HE has showed himself real to you hasn't he? If not, it doesn't matter what Robert or anyone else has done that is wrong. NO?
ABSOLUTELY 💯 INCORRECT! GODS WORD IS TRUTH! DOES NOT DEPEND ON ANY MAN OR WOMAN'S ACTIONS! HEBREWS 12:2) LOOKING UNTO JESUS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH.
Wow! Miss "better then you" attitude! You're judgemental towards Pastor Robert is going to bite you back someday! Just because your sin isn't exposed doesn't mean you're any better then him!
I agree....way too many rich pastors out in the world while their brothers and sisters in Christ are hungry and without shelter. Used to be pastors had a modest home and income, as the funds brought into the church were used for the less fortunate. And even one abusive pastor/priest is bad enough, but the stark quantity being discovered asthe abused start getting old enough to speak up must deeply grieve our Father and His Son. And those who support them and hide them are tarred with the same brush to our Father. Poor little ones.....
And yet that criminal and child abuser has prospered while this was hidden from the legal system. Your quote quote simply suggests that he knew and yet did nothing. And allowed that criminal to prosper and have no reckoning. Like the adults around that young girl while protecting the abuser. I call THAT a moral failing.
No, Robert, what you did was illegal sexual attacks on a child not “inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady”. You need to go to prison for what you did to her & probably to several other kids.
He himself was 20 years when it happened. Just remove a year and he will be a tennager Happened 42 years ago. And the father had brought before tg elders before. He left th pulpit because of this very care for a whole 2 years in 1989 And what exactly does the lady wants. Intercourse wasn't involved. It was petting and touching. What exactly does the lady wants
@@olanrewajuosinubi7833 You're saying it's okay to touch a 12 year old kid? Gross. Pervert. Seek mental help better yet, turn yourself into the police.
@@olanrewajuosinubi7833Are you kidding he raped her stuck his fingers in her private areas. And he was married and a minister at the time! If he wasn’t a pastor and had these issues, it might be different if he had the spirit of God working in him prior. However, let's be honest, most people would not want to sit under a pastor who molested a child or preteen before becoming a Christian. They would feel he could slip up and do it again and wouldn’t feel safe with their children around him. This is not to say that God doesn't forgive those sins, but all sin is not equal. I don’t know where people get the idea that it is. Yes, Paul was a murderer in his day, but he experienced a complete transformation once saved, so this situation is not comparable. In the New Testament, God gives a mandate for those in leadership. James 3:1 states, "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness." James 3:1-12 explains that teachers are held accountable to live by the truth they teach and not lead people away from God's Word. If a teacher teaches incorrectly, they may cause their listeners to stumble, and if they fail to live in a way that's worthy of their teaching, they may be considered a hypocrite and deserving of further judgment.
Needs to resign immediately. This was covered up for decades, and it appears that Morris has lied to the church about when it happened (He was in his 20’s and married ) the age of the child he calls a “young lady” ( She was 12) and about the claim that he was “ blessed by the victim and her father” to continue in the ministry. The fact that the leadership was complicit in this cover up and are still covering for him, speaks volumes about them. Sorry, but the church needs to clean house, otherwise the name of Christ will continue to be dragged through the mud for the sake of one man’s need to hold on to money and power. 😢
He committed ongoing sexual a. of a child. HE SHOULD BE IN PRISON! I don't give a rat's a$$ how remorseful he is! THE CHURCH SHOULD BE SUED BY THE WOMAN AND HER PARENTS: failure to report.
Agree. Parents are responsible too. They went along with HIS agenda in hiding his sexual assault with their daughter. They didn’t protect her and they didn’t prosecute her predator.
If he wasn’t transparent or honest about the age or severity of his abuse, how effective could any counseling, cleansing or prayers have been? Even now, this criminal is minimizing the facts. You can’t heal or give amends if you don’t admit what you have done and you keep shading the truth. Churches who don’t report this kind of crime should be held legally complicit. It also makes me wonder how the elders treat their own children if protecting a pastor is so all-important. These false prophets will be the downfall of Christianity. If you believe in Heaven, etc. Can you also believe that this criminal and those elders will have a hard time getting through those gates? I can hear their arguments about how they built a massive church but god saying « no. You built those churches for your own wealth and glory and were false teachers. Enjoy the other place ».
Net Worth of Pastor Robert Morris - Minister Robert Morris’s estimated net worth of $117 million shows that his impact goes beyond the spiritual world and into the financial world.
the woman says that his wife knew at the time that she was being abused and called her and told her that she, the wife, forgave her as though a child needed to be forgiven for what her husband did to her.
In Texas Some sex crimes against children have no statute of limitations for state prosecution. These crimes include sexual assault against a child and indecency with a child.
Child Sex Crimes Investigator here…unfortunately it wasn’t until 2007 that the statute of limitations was lifted on sexual assault cases. Anything prior to that must revert back to the law at the time of the offense. If a sex crime happened in 1980, even though it is now 2024, you have to research what the law was in 1980. I believe the law was that charges could be filed up to 10 years from the child’s 18th birthday. So up to 28 years old. She’s clearly older than 28.
Unfortunately, this is Texas we're talking about. Law enforcement is corrupt. Certainly, the MEGACHURCH is no doubt extremely rich, powerful, and influential which means 'threats' to those who speak against "God" (the pastor) and wealth for the corrupt e.g. Governor Greg Abbott, his senate, mayors and police.
Not necessarily. New York’s Adult Survivors Act, signed into law in May 2022, allows adult sexual abuse victims previously barred by the statute of limitations a limited “lookback” window to take action. S.3161/A.3340Governor Kathy Hochul today signed legislation to modernize New York State law to protect survivors of rape and hold perpetrators accountable for sexual assaultRape is Rape Act
I can’t believe his followers will defend him and still follow him. I used to watch him about 4 years ago until I heard him preach several times things that were not biblical and I had to. Stop watching.
All of those "preachers" are in it for the money - except Billy Graham. I think he tried to do the right thing all his life. And money was not a priority.
Who would want to attend his church after this. He’s a despicable terrible person. He’s hidden behind his title Church Leader. He should be investigated to see if there are other victims out there. That’s pure evil to harm a child.
I AM JUST SHOCKED, HEARTBROKEN💔😢😡. No one is perfect BUT this is criminal child abuse!! YES TO CONSEQUENCES!!!!! His son should NOT b allowed to take over either!!!!!
I can’t believe this…. I’m also shocked and feel like I could vomit. This is crushing . He was my most favorite tv pastor. So much wisdom in his teachings . Feel sick literally. And to the woman who came forward THANK YOU for telling the truth ! You are brave and pray God heals all that was stolen from you. I am so sorry
Amazing how is it his son should not lead the church . Why? I understand he was already in the process of handing over the Church to his son, soon - it appears he only expedited his retirement. Gateway was founded over 10 yrs ago. The alleged event under reference is from several decades ago😮 had absolutely NOTHING to do with Gateway church 😮. The church Matches on. Sorry
@@christieprince6991 His son cannot fill his shoes. He doesn't have the personality or charisma of his dad. Many people know about the *alleged* event, where he inserted himself into her life. His wife knew. The elders knew. After 10 years there, I'm not surprised. I left when the first pastor on staff was terminated for adultery, and called himself a victim. The church culture is sick, and it's sad.
STOP CALLING IT ‘a moral failing”!!!! It’s a crime. The sinful church had a moral responsibility to report this and let the legal system handle this, as did her family. The simple fact that he is minimizing the issue of her age (« young lady » ) and minimizing his abuse is astounding. Didn’t the church ASK for details when this first came to the their attention?? Or did they just pray that it would go away. And yet we are to take their words that there have been no other « failings » since???? And where was the church’s support for this « young lady »??? Let’s hear from other brave women who have found otherwise. These mega churches and their false prophets and the elders who worship the money they bring in are disgraceful. And don’t even get me started on their tax free status as a « charitable » organization. Disgusting.
Hope the victim is recovering well. My pastor was caught embezzeling money in the 1980's. This is what happens when there no accountability in religion, politics or anywhere else
the sad thing is people like this tend to minimise their involvement to protect themselves, which again means, they have not taken full responsibility or accountability for the crime.. He made this sound like a consensual act between two people, when she was actually a child of 12, whilst he was a grown married adult in his 20's (with a small child), so this was sexual abuse. As Christians we often try to deny or protect the perpetrator, without a thought for the victim's life which was ruined, and to also help prevent future potential victims. I am sorry to hear this, as I heard Robert Morris speak here in the UK at my church, and I have also read his book. He seemed solid and legit, but then again, so do a lot of predators who are hiding in plain sight and in positions of power. I hope he is held to account by the law and the church, and my apologies and gratitude to the victim for coming forward and saving others. I pray you can move forward and have a good life.
What do you mean «as Christians we minimize…”???? That’s not in any teachings and it’s NOT as “Christians” do, in generally. That’s offensive. Turning away from a victim is only connected to false worship and false prophets. NOT Christians.
He has not walked in purity because he lied in his book as to why he was put out of the ministry. 😢He is still deceiving people, but he will keep his position cause people worship Pastors and not Jesus these days.
He needs to be criminally charged. She was a child. I mean, his lawyer stated she was "flirtatious." Are you kidding me?! She was 12 years old. She was not a young lady. SHE WAS A 12 YEAR OLD CHILD. A CHILD
The devil is destroying our leaders! We are all human and make mistakes. God uses broken people. I am a survivor and have forgiven my abuse. I was very young at the time 5-14 .
The requirements of Justice/Accountability/Restitution are not negated by a simple/public confession of sin being made by a pastor. Corruption of a minor and S.A. of her innocence is a very serious felonious matter warranting time in prison for doing so.
Hey anybody wondering where the criminals that molested young girls & trafficked them are listed because Ghislane Maxwell is in prison, yet none of her clients have been revealed. Maybe catch the big fish story instead of digging up a 40+ year old mistake made by a 20 year old male.
@@robinnolan8006 His ADMISSION to "moral failure," and to "petting," for one (evidence). And, physical evidence or not, that's enough to say he did it.
The pastor hid his sin. Period. From the old church, from the new church (Gateway), and from the police. Parents are at fault too! They didn’t file charges on him on behalf of their young 12-year-old daughter! “Be not many of you teachers, my brethren, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment.” James 3:1
This was while he was a pastor at age 20, with a wife and child, a guest at the home of this 12 year old's parents. He may be forgiven, but that does not save him from criminal liability, just like if he had killed someone or robbed a bank. Romans 13.
That's why she asked for $50K in 2005, when she notified the Gateway elders. They offered her $25K, an NDA, and blamed her for bringing it upon herself. At 12. You can't make this stuff up.
I thought once church parishioners are made aware of sexual abuse they are to #1 report it to the police. Did that happen in this situation? If not why not? If not then the leaders of that church are also to be held accountable?
Same as it ever was. William Tyndale wrote a very famous book. It's read by maybe billions to this day. One fine day a couple hundred years ago, a jolly gay fellow had some friends of his find that fine author, Mr. Tyndale. They did what their jolly friend told them to do and strangled him to death, and then had him burned at the stake. That jolly gay fella went on to name Mr. Tyndale's book "The King James" version of the Holy Bible. True story. 80% of it's contents remain Mr. Tyndales.
He should be in jail no Business Preaching god's word he did a Horrible Crime to a Little girl i think it's a crime that he even Preaching sad he getting away with it he's not a Preacher a sin have no Business Preaching I don't understand how people can still go to his church knowing what he did
Walked in purity by minimizing his actions, further victimizing the "young Lady" who was TWELVE. 12, Let that sink in! It confounds me how the "moral leaders" of the Church not only protect abusers, but lift them up. Shame😢
And call you a 12-year-old seductress with a Jezebel spirit? And then be turned down when you sought compensation for therapy? And be asked for an NDA in exchange for money? He acts like she was Stormy Frickin Daniels.
After being married to an SA who was a worship leader, I can tell you that it is rare. Not impossible, but as he never repented by turning himself into the authorities (Rom 13), I can tell you I have not seen a change in the personality I first sat under in 2000.
He was "God's anointed" whom evangelicals are taught to "touch not". Don't ever, ever speak against them, or suffer the wrath of God. He told his wife that this little girl had a Jezebel spirit, and that she seduced him. "The devil made me do it" defense. She was 12. Stinks.
Good for you. I called them out on support of 45 and charging youth group kids for pizza when the Morrisses and Kari Jobe were shelling out big bucks to attend the inaugural. I heard, "Have you talked to the pastor at your campus about this?" Are your freaking kidding me?????
So how much was this woman (girl) paid to tarnish this person's character? He confessed and apologised to the girl and her family, as per her family's confession. He did wrong, but he repented. He who has committed no sin, let him cast the first stone.
Wow 35 years is a bit much. But then again maybe no one listened to the little girl earlier. These men are so protected sometimes. May she find healing.
@@georgiafain3747 her own church. NOT the church that Robert had moved on to. Shady Grove (Grand Prairie Texas) didn't know anything. The church her father pastored in Tulsa would of been the church that covered it up.
@@davidharden7575 Olen Griffing knew, James Robison knew, Tom Lane (Gateway elder in 2005) knew, his wife knew. Gateway was told she was a young lady with a Jezebel spirit who seduced him when he was married with a child. Over 4.5 years. The congregation didn't know the "young lady" was 12 on Christmas day when their pastor perpetrated this crime against a child.
Why is it people wait so long to bring out the past! They both were wrong now we all get to judge for ourselves. You can't change the past just ask what can we do to learn from this.
You never know how or when the dots will finally connect for a survivor. The church culture at Gateway is insane. I can attest to that truth as an ex-vangelical refugee from that sick place.
@@kathydixon1666 True, but Morris shouldn't have done it. Everyone but him was victimized. The only thing I can imagine is that he might have been concerned CPS would take all his kids, accusing him of failure to protect. As a foster parent, I have seen that happen in Texas.
The elders claim he’s been “open and forthright”?!! Are you kidding me?! Are these the same elders that allowed him back into ministry instead of notifying the police? If so, they should also be held accountable.
Imagine if he had told the truth and taken the consequences of his sin before now? He hid his sin without true repentance. “Be not many of you teachers, my brethren, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment.” James 3:1
@Panini-sp9bw You are correct on that! The thing that troubles me is why did this woman come up with this story now, after over 30 years. And why didn't her father speak up if he knew. Honestly my heart breaks for all involved. The lady, the church, and Robert Morris' family. 😭
I hope he is Prosecuted and the church is shut down. This church never should have alowed him to return. Makes me wonder if all the elders are pedophiles. Yes we are all sinners and this sin can be forgiven and may have been forgiven by God like all others through Gods Grace and we should love our fellow man however this does not mean they should have allowed him back in a leadership position where he could have hurt other children. I AM SO GLAD SHE SPOKE UP!
It has nothing to do with religion. It is a crime, and he should have gone to prison, ASAP. Her father knew, but also his wife, his pastor, church elders, James Robison. All complicit.
He lied and minimized, told half-truths, and got so powerful that nobody could touch him. He had the ear of the President of the US, as his advisor from '16-'20.
The biggest thing that bothers me is that it continued till she was 16 yrs old. Now she comes forward. No one seems to take that into consideration. Was he in the wrong? ABSOLUTELY. But so was she.
Did she recoil or secretly fantasize about being in love with a young man who was older? I had puppy love at that age but no knowledge of what kissing could lead to. I also had no idea how my adoration and romantic notions could arouse a man. At 16 I had sex with my first boyfriend after petting went to its natural conclusion. This young lady was not a young child. I wonder why she decided to destroy not just a man’s ministry, but a whole church. And why is this 30 year old sin considered the unpardonable sin? I don’t trust anyone who wants money for their “suffering”. We’ve all suffered and some of us have actually been raped.
It’s wasn’t just a moral failure or just a sin. It was a crime!
AMEN!!!
Indeed!
That is not a crime! He was open about it! People are so prompt to condemn!
@@mariamercy7317 It is a crime in any state of the U.S. Open about it? That literally makes no sense.
Condemn? Obviously you’re not a parent. It’s called #StatutoryRape. He definitely should not have been let in the pulpit, again! He made no true confession, he even hid the sin (he said she was a “young lady”, she was a young 12-year old girl), the no legal consequence for statutory rape. No pastor should be in the pulpit with any legal, ungodly sins. They can repent, in front of the church congregation as the Bible requires, but they are let go from the church; NOT let back into the leadership position again!!
The Church elders that voted for him to be allowed to preach there should be REMOVED IMMEDIATELY, TOO!
This is typical of many men that shield their fellow men from this type behavior
ABSOLUTELY‼️
And, how about PASTOR ROBISON???
ALL those “prosperity preachers” are actors and actresses, performer crooks.
This story makes me sick, as a 72 yr old divorced woman of a verbal and emotional abuser, Robert Morris is a cowardly, insecure little mama’s boy in a grown man’s body, USING GOD for riches.
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And jailed for being an accessory to a crime
Seriously, why did it take you so long !
He was a grown man she was a child that’s not a young lady that’s a little kid. He needs to pay for his crimes.
Do you think capital punishment by beheading for him raping her last week is too severe. The 14 year old boy had no money but the victim may accept his head in a box. You never know.
He was a barely a tennager himself. He was 20 years old
And he was 20. If u must mention 12, try to always add that he was 20 at the time. Remove one year and he is a teenager
He who is without sin --- let him cast the first stone. Forgive and you shall be forgiven. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord. When people are young and immature, many fall into sin and with Christian maturity, they overcome these temptations. In a world where Jesus died for us all, it is better to "judge not, lest you be judged" and forgive without demanding millions of dollars.
Trump's spiritual leader ? Is that what they called him ?
There is NEVER just 1 victim. He got caught with that one 12 year old; how many others are there that are too afraid to say anything?!
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Just think about the conversations going on among his family and friends asking, "Has grandpa touched you?"
Her parents failed her as well. They should have called the police themselves. Ridiculous.
Why didn't her parents call the authorities when this happened ?? They failed her also !!
@@marybarina-yw2bz Denial is strong amongst these hypocrites.
They did... have you even read the victims 2 blog posts explaining this or just watched one video??? Geez
There was a police that purposely DID NOT report this when it first happened. If you don't even bother to know why do you have to put your 2 cents in?
Exactly! Her parents are the biggest criminals. They let this go on and on, right under their noses! 😢
Who ELSE has he traumatized over the years?
They should step up and sue him in civil court.
Exactly. What are the odds she was the ONLY one. That's not how it works.
@@carolinasongbird3362 Well...that depends on who it is, doesn't it ?
Not a growing trend, it has always been allowed!!!!!!!!
Perhaps the time limit for when charges can be pressed has long since passed. Kind of like what happened with former U.S. Speaker of the House (R), Dennis Hastert who allegedly abused members of the high school wrestling team where he was a coach.
Since no one else has come forward with allegations, you cannot assume there was anyone else, or prove it.
Just because he hasn’t been caught for any additional assaults doesn’t mean he’s been walking in purity, it just means he hasn’t been caught.
Agree.
Exactly!!!
Right! If he did this to his FRIEND'S DAUGHTER... risking being caught, what else did he do? Now we're just supposed to believe hin when he claims he is "pure"?
So apparently you don't believe in God's redemption. Pride comes before a fall. Remember that.
what if he had killed someone?.... but thats ok, cause that was a long time ago and he been walking in purity.
He should have already been fired. The fact the church leaders allowed a sexual predator on the stage knowing what they knew is sad.
He should be in jail and the church sued
@@jeffreymartin6369 Her parents should have pressed charges. He should have been fired. And watch the congregation accept this.
@@lelabrooks04 BIG TIME! This crap happens too often in religious communities and it sucks. I left the church at 15 over hypocrisy and abuse myself. This bs idea that God fixes every damn thing is bs. Plain bs. Men are men, period. God gave us free will. Karma is a thing and here it is in his face, and yes those idiots have already supported him and decided he was cured! Ugh. Let’s watch them circle the wagons and double down. I suspect more victims will come forward and if that happens the Church will have to lawyer up. They probably have. Meanwhile I hope she has, and I also hope she files charges. If not mistaken Texas has no limit on sexual assault of minors as far as time is concerned.
Yet we elected a sexual predator as president! Supreme court is suspect too!
@@jeffreymartin6369 You're at least close as to real reason this is coming up 40 years after the fact. Too bad he's not an actor who can just flee to Europe and keep getting awards and accolades from his peers. O, wait, that's ok, my bad. 🤣
He groomed that child for over four years and then tried to convince her to have sex with him. That it is a crime. He should have been held accountable and permanently stepped down from ministry.😢
He raped her with fingers… he should have gone to jail.
Yep! She was 12 that’s MIDDLE school age, 6th or 7th grader. Unbelievable. It’s legally called #StatutoryRape.
He needs to go to jail he not only broke God’s law he broke Man law that prohibits this deranged behavior. Trial should start soon ~ 4, years of conditioning a child under the age of 14, is pedophile behavior I’m sure there’s more victims since he told her to stay quite where’s the justice for this victim?
Where did you hear he groomed her for 4 yrs?
That would have made her 16 then???
I agree!!
He should have gone to jail
permanently
For your sins? When you are a criminal and working Free?
@@christieprince6991 WTF are you talking about ?
@@christieprince6991Yeah, wtf??!
No, he should be in jail.
Gateway needs to close! The elders knew of criminal sexual abuse, and made light of it. Their “business” means more to them than the holiness of God.
They can always turn it into an Islam center. They are heading in the way of Mohammed.
The worst sin is Greed - money means more than a child's safety - even in a church.😒
That’s what the Devil wants…the closure of his church. He who casts the first stone….
Christ demands forgiveness. She is a liar. She said she forgave. This is no Christ-like woman. She’s stirring up hatred and retaliation.
@@karendeck1343you need to self reflect on this and come to your senses. You are in the position of defending a sexual predator of children. Your compass is broken. These are crimes that have been committed.
Keep that cash flowing, o " holy" ones
He shouldn't be a pastor. The Bible is clear on the requirements....they are to be," above reproach". Stuff like this makes church look terrible.
Agree and Agree!
Above reproach would mean if you owe someone in the congregation 10 bucks for 6 months you better get that cleared up. You don't get to even steal 10 bucks much less anything of more significance.
@WW-ug1jk Or not to do anything illegal. Pastor's are to have a good report. What he did was a crime.
You would think after cases like Hillsomg, right? Nah.
@@Howiefaam31459 speaking of which, I certainly feel the least that Hillsong can do in the aftermath is Change Its Name! (Id feel so uneasy still hanging around servicing that church brand name)
With that branding intact.. wonder if there are royalties etc flowing back to the still honoured founders of that "global" church..
He runs a false church. This man is not a true shepherd and neither are those elders who did not turn him into the police when all this took place. They have brought shame on The name of God. No wonder the world looks at all believers like we are stupid.
Bruh. That's all of them.
Haven’t I seen him on Daystar? Broadcasting around the world? And now with prez Joni Lamb married to a sex therapist? Supporting Tiffany Smiley for HR in WA?🤮🤮🤮👹👹🤬🥵🍄🍄
This was kissing and Inappropriately touching which occurred 4O years ago BEFORE he became a Devout Christian. He claims No Intercourse. Regardless the behavior was still sinful and No excuses . He had since repented of it and DECADES ago when this past behavior came light he admitted it openly and went through the process of seeking forgiveness from the lady, her parents, the elders of the church etc and was disciplined. Nothing about this is New- except the foolishness of CNN and Democrats who are resurrecting the story and condemning TRUMP for allowing Robert Morris to be one of his Supporters- Sinners condemning OTHERs! SHAME ON CNN and MSNBC and Democrats along with their American political Media MAFIA😮😮😮
No ,you do not have an understanding of God's Word.
First of all it was the parents that decided not to go to the police not the church.
You should probably think about the sins from your past Have you ever even repented?
If you have do you know those sins are as far as the east is from the west?
@@carolynnmarkiewicz6015you are obviously one of the problems. Yes we are all sinners and we can all be forgiven but it does not mean we are not subject to consequences or the law. We can love the sinner and hate the sin but noone should have allowed him to return to leadership and risk a repeat offense.
Wow, and yet he's the Pastor and on screens all over and a millionaire living in a mansion and on vacation at this moment, it's Pastor like him that make us Christians wonder what is truth and what is lies. With all the people on the streets, homeless and starving he has no business being on vacation or being a millionaire. He does not even preach half of the time or more than half of the time he has all these people coming in doing the preaching but yet he's a millionaire He should be doing the work of God and walking the streets, giving people food, giving people tents , helping people figure out their situations, he's a millionaire Pastor on vacation and now this news comes out, shame on him
his sin is horrible but does it invalidate what God is to you? I mean HE has showed himself real to you hasn't he? If not, it doesn't matter what Robert or anyone else has done that is wrong. NO?
ABSOLUTELY 💯 INCORRECT! GODS WORD IS TRUTH! DOES NOT DEPEND ON ANY MAN OR WOMAN'S ACTIONS! HEBREWS 12:2) LOOKING UNTO JESUS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH.
Wow! Miss "better then you" attitude! You're judgemental towards Pastor Robert is going to bite you back someday! Just because your sin isn't exposed doesn't mean you're any better then him!
And the fact that the « church » is handing the reins to his din is gross.
Clear the house.
I agree....way too many rich pastors out in the world while their brothers and sisters in Christ are hungry and without shelter. Used to be pastors had a modest home and income, as the funds brought into the church were used for the less fortunate. And even one abusive pastor/priest is bad enough, but the stark quantity being discovered asthe abused start getting old enough to speak up must deeply grieve our Father and His Son. And those who support them and hide them are tarred with the same brush to our Father. Poor little ones.....
He needs to go to jail. Now.
Exactly
Nothing is hidden before the Lord.
Amen!!!!!!
REALLY????🙄😒
THEN WHY DIDN'T THE LAWD DO ANYTHING TO SAVE HER?
And yet that criminal and child abuser has prospered while this was hidden from the legal system.
Your quote quote simply suggests that he knew and yet did nothing. And allowed that criminal to prosper and have no reckoning.
Like the adults around that young girl while protecting the abuser.
I call THAT a moral failing.
The "Lord" has nothing to do with all these criminals, they all want to be like Trump.
No, Robert, what you did was illegal sexual attacks on a child not “inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady”. You need to go to prison for what you did to her & probably to several other kids.
He should never be allowed back in the pulpit nor around any children
He himself was 20 years when it happened. Just remove a year and he will be a tennager
Happened 42 years ago. And the father had brought before tg elders before. He left th pulpit because of this very care for a whole 2 years in 1989
And what exactly does the lady wants. Intercourse wasn't involved. It was petting and touching.
What exactly does the lady wants
@@olanrewajuosinubi7833 You're saying it's okay to touch a 12 year old kid? Gross. Pervert. Seek mental help better yet, turn yourself into the police.
@@olanrewajuosinubi7833Are you kidding he raped her stuck his fingers in her private areas. And he was married and a minister at the time!
If he wasn’t a pastor and had these issues, it might be different if he had the spirit of God working in him prior. However, let's be honest, most people would not want to sit under a pastor who molested a child or preteen before becoming a Christian. They would feel he could slip up and do it again and wouldn’t feel safe with their children around him. This is not to say that God doesn't forgive those sins, but all sin is not equal. I don’t know where people get the idea that it is. Yes, Paul was a murderer in his day, but he experienced a complete transformation once saved, so this situation is not comparable. In the New Testament, God gives a mandate for those in leadership. James 3:1 states, "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness." James 3:1-12 explains that teachers are held accountable to live by the truth they teach and not lead people away from God's Word. If a teacher teaches incorrectly, they may cause their listeners to stumble, and if they fail to live in a way that's worthy of their teaching, they may be considered a hypocrite and deserving of further judgment.
You don't get a second chance when you hurt a child
Does that include abortion?
Sky daddy says you do!!! It’s the ultimate cop out- religion
@@justascottthe Bible condones it
@@justascott yes
Completely AGREE!!!
This is not just a moral failure. This is a sexual assault of a child.
Needs to resign immediately. This was covered up for decades, and it appears that Morris has lied to the church about when it happened (He was in his 20’s and married ) the age of the child he calls a “young lady” ( She was 12) and about the claim that he was “ blessed by the victim and her father” to continue in the ministry. The fact that the leadership was complicit in this cover up and are still covering for him, speaks volumes about them.
Sorry, but the church needs to clean house, otherwise the name of Christ will continue to be dragged through the mud for the sake of one man’s need to hold on to money and power. 😢
So we'll said. 🎉
Hearsay....show us evidence. You can't.
He admitted it. What else is there?
@@KB-ke3fi Clearly you appear to be literate, which makes this a strange comment indeed.
@KB-ke3fi he admitted to it.
He committed ongoing sexual a. of a child. HE SHOULD BE IN PRISON! I don't give a rat's a$$ how remorseful he is! THE CHURCH SHOULD BE SUED BY THE WOMAN AND HER PARENTS: failure to report.
Agree. Parents are responsible too. They went along with HIS agenda in hiding his sexual assault with their daughter. They didn’t protect her and they didn’t prosecute her predator.
Like the abused Catholic kids who were honored to be the “chosen ones”
My heart hurts for the children.
If he were ever repentant or remorseful, he would have turned himself in to the authorities. I'm sure he's read Romans 13.
If he kept this hidden all these years, it is reasonable to question what else he may be hiding.
If he wasn’t transparent or honest about the age or severity of his abuse, how effective could any counseling, cleansing or prayers have been? Even now, this criminal is minimizing the facts.
You can’t heal or give amends if you don’t admit what you have done and you keep shading the truth.
Churches who don’t report this kind of crime should be held legally complicit.
It also makes me wonder how the elders treat their own children if protecting a pastor is so all-important.
These false prophets will be the downfall of Christianity.
If you believe in Heaven, etc. Can you also believe that this criminal and those elders will have a hard time getting through those gates? I can hear their arguments about how they built a massive church but god saying « no. You built those churches for your own wealth and glory and were false teachers. Enjoy the other place ».
Net Worth of Pastor Robert Morris - Minister Robert Morris’s estimated net worth of $117 million shows that his impact goes beyond the spiritual world and into the financial world.
She should sue him for all his millions!
She can take him to civil court with a lawsuit!!!
And here I am a pastor and don’t have 5000 dollars, most of us have given our lives for the gospel and these characters get by with this
um estimated net worth really?
it shows nothing of the sort.
the woman says that his wife knew at the time that she was being abused and called her and told her that she, the wife, forgave her as though a child needed to be forgiven for what her husband did to her.
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Co-enabler. Cult wife
Pouring fuel to fire
Adding to the pain.. Im glad God knows everything and now hopefully she can start to fully heal
In Texas Some sex crimes against children have no statute of limitations for state prosecution. These crimes include sexual assault against a child and indecency with a child.
Law enforcement should follow up on this if that is the case.
Child Sex Crimes Investigator here…unfortunately it wasn’t until 2007 that the statute of limitations was lifted on sexual assault cases. Anything prior to that must revert back to the law at the time of the offense. If a sex crime happened in 1980, even though it is now 2024, you have to research what the law was in 1980. I believe the law was that charges could be filed up to 10 years from the child’s 18th birthday. So up to 28 years old. She’s clearly older than 28.
Unfortunately, this is Texas we're talking about. Law enforcement is corrupt. Certainly, the MEGACHURCH is no doubt extremely rich, powerful, and influential which means 'threats' to those who speak against "God" (the pastor) and wealth for the corrupt e.g. Governor Greg Abbott, his senate, mayors and police.
Not necessarily. New York’s Adult Survivors Act, signed into law in May 2022, allows adult sexual abuse victims previously barred by the statute of limitations a limited “lookback” window to take action. S.3161/A.3340Governor Kathy Hochul today signed legislation to modernize New York State law to protect survivors of rape and hold perpetrators accountable for sexual assaultRape is Rape Act
@@garretthood2538 man get outta here 😂😂 this whole post is about Texas and you gonna throw some New York stuff in? 😂😂😂
He won’t let any guy date his daughter unless they pass his test especially when it comes to tithing what a hypocrite.
His only dtr is married????
@@sherrills.2332 After years of counseling, yes. I passed her going in and out of the counseling office from my office.
He has always preached False doctrine!!
I can’t believe his followers will defend him and still follow him. I used to watch him about 4 years ago until I heard him preach several times things that were not biblical and I had to. Stop watching.
I’ve
Always felt that DT next scam would be a mega church. He has the believers and footsteps to follow
All of those "preachers" are in it for the money - except Billy Graham. I think he tried to do the right thing all his life. And money was not a priority.
They'll call it a hoax, a witch hunt, a scam, fake news. I know some of them, and they just can't help themselves.
That's what abusers do. They tell you that _you_ will get in trouble and _you_ are responsible for keeping the peace.
And they tell others “little white lies” “she was a young lady.” No she was a 12-year-old middle school girl!!!!!
Exactly. This is exactly what they do.
Who would want to attend his church after this. He’s a despicable terrible person. He’s hidden behind his title Church Leader. He should be investigated to see if there are other victims out there. That’s pure evil to harm a child.
He needs to be locked, no matter how long ago. sickening
The problem is you would have zero churches, zero actors, and zero policitians left.
Lock him up!
From a pastor , you need to resign immediately and never stand in another pulpit
Agree.
Apparently he did resign. Should have happened decades ago.
I agree, but he never should have been in a pulpit to begin with after the abuse
@@SS-ge2gs yes correct because that’s perverse
excuse me? he needs to be prosecuted, and if found guilty, he needs to go to jail. wtf cares if he resigns? that solves nothing.
Petting is a term used between two consenting adults, not a term used with children. That would be called molestation
Molestation makes it sound like the girl was the victim rather than him.
I can never understand how people follow these criminal men. Especially when they're 'leaders' in the church. He should be in prison. Period.
Manipulation.
12 is not a young lady.
If she is in a public school, she is being handed condoms and given pornography from the school library.
35yrs later this clown comes out and cries ahahahaha. you women are sick
I AM JUST SHOCKED, HEARTBROKEN💔😢😡. No one is perfect BUT this is criminal child abuse!! YES TO CONSEQUENCES!!!!! His son should NOT b allowed to take over either!!!!!
I can’t believe this…. I’m also shocked and feel like I could vomit. This is crushing . He was my most favorite tv pastor. So much wisdom in his teachings . Feel sick literally.
And to the woman who came forward THANK YOU for telling the truth ! You are brave and pray God heals all that was stolen from you. I am so sorry
Amazing how is it his son should not lead the church . Why? I understand he was already in the process of handing over the Church to his son, soon - it appears he only expedited his retirement. Gateway was founded over 10 yrs ago. The alleged event under reference is from several decades ago😮 had absolutely NOTHING to do with Gateway church 😮. The church Matches on. Sorry
Sounds like a cult.
@@christieprince6991 His son cannot fill his shoes. He doesn't have the personality or charisma of his dad. Many people know about the *alleged* event, where he inserted himself into her life. His wife knew. The elders knew. After 10 years there, I'm not surprised. I left when the first pastor on staff was terminated for adultery, and called himself a victim. The church culture is sick, and it's sad.
STOP CALLING IT ‘a moral failing”!!!!
It’s a crime.
The sinful church had a moral responsibility to report this and let the legal system handle this, as did her family.
The simple fact that he is minimizing the issue of her age (« young lady » ) and minimizing his abuse is astounding. Didn’t the church ASK for details when this first came to the their attention?? Or did they just pray that it would go away.
And yet we are to take their words that there have been no other « failings » since????
And where was the church’s support for this « young lady »???
Let’s hear from other brave women who have found otherwise.
These mega churches and their false prophets and the elders who worship the money they bring in are disgraceful.
And don’t even get me started on their tax free status as a « charitable » organization.
Disgusting.
Hope the victim is recovering well. My pastor was caught embezzeling money in the 1980's. This is what happens when there no accountability in religion, politics or anywhere else
It wasn’t just a “moral failure;” it was an abomination in a crime.
the sad thing is people like this tend to minimise their involvement to protect themselves, which again means, they have not taken full responsibility or accountability for the crime.. He made this sound like a consensual act between two people, when she was actually a child of 12, whilst he was a grown married adult in his 20's (with a small child), so this was sexual abuse. As Christians we often try to deny or protect the perpetrator, without a thought for the victim's life which was ruined, and to also help prevent future potential victims. I am sorry to hear this, as I heard Robert Morris speak here in the UK at my church, and I have also read his book. He seemed solid and legit, but then again, so do a lot of predators who are hiding in plain sight and in positions of power. I hope he is held to account by the law and the church, and my apologies and gratitude to the victim for coming forward and saving others. I pray you can move forward and have a good life.
What do you mean «as Christians we minimize…”????
That’s not in any teachings and it’s NOT as “Christians” do, in generally. That’s offensive.
Turning away from a victim is only connected to false worship and false prophets. NOT Christians.
"Moral failings"? It's criminal behavior.
Walked in Purity? 😂😂😂😂
When will people wake up!!
keep dreaming kelly. the western cancer is finished
Why now? She appears to be in her late 30's early 40's -- that's 25 years ago... he's been a successful pastor for years... why now?
Check Tony Evans resigning June 9, because of an "old sin" he specified was "not a crime"...Something stinks in Dallas.
He has not walked in purity because he lied in his book as to why he was put out of the ministry. 😢He is still deceiving people, but he will keep his position cause people worship Pastors and not Jesus these days.
:(
So sad
Not accused. Admitted to it. Just yo be clear.
That means nothing, legally, tho. You're conflating terms.
those elders should have gone to the police about that matter and not turned a blind eye 😩
What if it had been their daughter. Could they have looked the other way? Such hypocrisy.
Her father should have gone to the police
And churches wonder why their congregations are dwindling diwn to nothing
People who were aware are absolutely disgusting and so is he and they all need to be charged
Yes and her parents should be charged as well
ahahahaha 35 years later the idiot comes out
He needs to be criminally charged. She was a child. I mean, his lawyer stated she was "flirtatious." Are you kidding me?! She was 12 years old. She was not a young lady. SHE WAS A 12 YEAR OLD CHILD. A CHILD
“Walked in purity”….the religious jargon doesn’t gloss over the crime against a child.
They offered her nothing. While they coddled him
Yup. He might as well say I stopped molesting children after that last time with Cindy...
First Tony Evans now Robert Morris. Who’s next? God is cleaning house
Tony Evans??? No way! Don’t believe that at all
The devil is destroying our leaders! We are all human and make mistakes. God uses broken people.
I am a survivor and have forgiven my abuse. I was very young at the time 5-14 .
@@carolinasongbird3362 unfortunately I did the research …. Was hoping it was an inaccurate comment .
It Is a big SIN!Should be punished by Law!
Crime. Child molestation. CONSEQUENCES!!!
The requirements of Justice/Accountability/Restitution are not negated by a simple/public confession of sin being made by a pastor. Corruption of a minor and S.A. of her innocence is a very serious felonious matter warranting time in prison for doing so.
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Hey anybody wondering where the criminals that molested young girls & trafficked them are listed because Ghislane Maxwell is in prison, yet none of her clients have been revealed.
Maybe catch the big fish story instead of digging up a 40+ year old mistake made by a 20 year old male.
No criminal charges filed. Has to be evidence in criminal cases...where's the evidence! Hearsay?
@@robinnolan8006 I don't expect much from men. But are you serious?
@@robinnolan8006 His ADMISSION to "moral failure," and to "petting," for one (evidence). And, physical evidence or not, that's enough to say he did it.
"As you do onto these ... " go to jail, then ask for forgiveness.
He should still go to jail! He should be held to a higher standard because of his position with the church!! No excuse!!!
Was this before he became a Pastor. ? If God forgave him he is forgiven.
The pastor hid his sin. Period. From the old church, from the new church (Gateway), and from the police. Parents are at fault too! They didn’t file charges on him on behalf of their young 12-year-old daughter!
“Be not many of you teachers, my brethren, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment.”
James 3:1
This was while he was a pastor at age 20, with a wife and child, a guest at the home of this 12 year old's parents. He may be forgiven, but that does not save him from criminal liability, just like if he had killed someone or robbed a bank. Romans 13.
Wow, this is devistating, if she is a victim herself this can result in a long process of therapy for this woman. Prayers for her health and healing.
That's why she asked for $50K in 2005, when she notified the Gateway elders. They offered her $25K, an NDA, and blamed her for bringing it upon herself. At 12. You can't make this stuff up.
Once again if anybody pays attention every preacher/ teacher on the daystar network is false.
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ANY preacher that doesn't preface his entire career with "I don't know if any of this is true", (because they don't!) but I believe it", is false.
I thought once church parishioners are made aware of sexual abuse they are to #1 report it to the police. Did that happen in this situation? If not why not? If not then the leaders of that church are also to be held accountable?
Evil strutting around up there telling others how to live………..shame🤮💩🤢
Same as it ever was. William Tyndale wrote a very famous book. It's read by maybe billions to this day. One fine day a couple hundred years ago, a jolly gay fellow had some friends of his find that fine author, Mr. Tyndale. They did what their jolly friend told them to do and strangled him to death, and then had him burned at the stake. That jolly gay fella went on to name Mr. Tyndale's book "The King James" version of the Holy Bible. True story. 80% of it's contents remain Mr. Tyndales.
Makes the pastors role look bad to those really trying to preach the Gospel.
He oozes arrogance and has found a group of simps for elders to support him.
He should be in jail no Business Preaching god's word he did a Horrible Crime to a Little girl i think it's a crime that he even Preaching sad he getting away with it he's not a Preacher a sin have no Business Preaching
I don't understand how people can still go to his church knowing what he did
Well, they found out on Friday, I imagine Sunday's attendance dropped considerably. We can only hope.
Call it what it is. Pederacy. Elders knew. Shame on them.
WOW!
THE LORD IS EXPOSING AND CLEANING HOUSE AT THE SAME TIME!
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But he has been double tithing since 1985!
Wow, all the great comments should be taken. He took a young girl's innocence, the worst of it all. BEC
Walked in purity by minimizing his actions, further victimizing the "young Lady" who was TWELVE. 12, Let that sink in! It confounds me how the "moral leaders" of the Church not only protect abusers, but lift them up. Shame😢
Why just now coming out ?
it's typical for these older washed up white women, all they want is attention for that 5 mins lol
Could you imagine watching your preparator go become a billionaire snake oil sales man?
What about the shame and guilt her parents should feel for allowing her to go through torment by not pressing charges against him
And call you a 12-year-old seductress with a Jezebel spirit? And then be turned down when you sought compensation for therapy? And be asked for an NDA in exchange for money? He acts like she was Stormy Frickin Daniels.
Why is he not in jail?
Texas?
Because he double tithes!
Because nobody listened to her.
@@bettyjones113 That's fair!
Oh stop! He was 20 and he repented. Devil is a liar
Hr did it once and got away with it. He probably did it more than once.
No guy in his 20s suddenly starts with a 12 year old.
God bless you Cindy. Keep talking. There are many of us out here who won't get the chance to speak our truths. Stay strong.
Wow, i have learned more about corporate religion than i care to. Its about JESUS CHRIST people not these mere mortal MEN!
I love these euohemisms " moral failures" . Typical coding criminal behavior
You say molesting Morris says petting, you say 12 year old Morris says young lady, you say be accountable Morris says she seduced me...
That was in the 80s...I do believe people can change. God did change people countless times in the bible.
After being married to an SA who was a worship leader, I can tell you that it is rare. Not impossible, but as he never repented by turning himself into the authorities (Rom 13), I can tell you I have not seen a change in the personality I first sat under in 2000.
How could she hold that in for so long… parents, talk to your kids “these day”.
He was "God's anointed" whom evangelicals are taught to "touch not". Don't ever, ever speak against them, or suffer the wrath of God. He told his wife that this little girl had a Jezebel spirit, and that she seduced him. "The devil made me do it" defense. She was 12. Stinks.
I wish you never waited this long but I do understand! I applaud you for finally getting brave enough to expose him!
Her parents should have exposed him as soon as they found out about it
He needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law just as we mere mortals would certainly be.
they all say the same BS when they finally get caught. why don't people understand that these people are ALL abusers and scammers
My faith is in God. Not some Pastor. Beware of false teachings/teachers.
He and those church members should spend time in jail..no excuses..this is horrible.
You too. For All the sinful things you have done in your lifetime
Call them and share how you feel. I did.
How did they take it? Did you get hung up on?
Good for you. I called them out on support of 45 and charging youth group kids for pizza when the Morrisses and Kari Jobe were shelling out big bucks to attend the inaugural. I heard, "Have you talked to the pastor at your campus about this?" Are your freaking kidding me?????
So how much was this woman (girl) paid to tarnish this person's character? He confessed and apologised to the girl and her family, as per her family's confession. He did wrong, but he repented. He who has committed no sin, let him cast the first stone.
Wow 35 years is a bit much. But then again maybe no one listened to the little girl earlier. These men are so protected sometimes. May she find healing.
maybe she has a granddaughter that has been raped or a daughter that was and it has caused her to deal w old emotions.
She told when she was 17 and the church covered it all up
@@georgiafain3747 her own church. NOT the church that Robert had moved on to. Shady Grove (Grand Prairie Texas) didn't know anything. The church her father pastored in Tulsa would of been the church that covered it up.
@@davidharden7575 Olen Griffing knew, James Robison knew, Tom Lane (Gateway elder in 2005) knew, his wife knew. Gateway was told she was a young lady with a Jezebel spirit who seduced him when he was married with a child. Over 4.5 years. The congregation didn't know the "young lady" was 12 on Christmas day when their pastor perpetrated this crime against a child.
Why is it people wait so long to bring out the past! They both were wrong now we all get to judge for ourselves. You can't change the past just ask what can we do to learn from this.
Her father should have reported it to the police
You never know how or when the dots will finally connect for a survivor. The church culture at Gateway is insane. I can attest to that truth as an ex-vangelical refugee from that sick place.
@@kathydixon1666 True, but Morris shouldn't have done it. Everyone but him was victimized. The only thing I can imagine is that he might have been concerned CPS would take all his kids, accusing him of failure to protect. As a foster parent, I have seen that happen in Texas.
The elders claim he’s been “open and forthright”?!! Are you kidding me?! Are these the same elders that allowed him back into ministry instead of notifying the police? If so, they should also be held accountable.
WOW, so sad. How dare you! I am so sorry Cindy you went thru that. Your not alone.
Imagine if after so many years, God still held us accountable for our past sins! No one would be forgiven nor saved!!!
Imagine if he had told the truth and taken the consequences of his sin before now? He hid his sin without true repentance.
“Be not many of you teachers, my brethren, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment.”
James 3:1
@Panini-sp9bw You are correct on that! The thing that troubles me is why did this woman come up with this story now, after over 30 years. And why didn't her father speak up if he knew. Honestly my heart breaks for all involved. The lady, the church, and Robert Morris' family. 😭
I hope he is Prosecuted and the church is shut down. This church never should have alowed him to return. Makes me wonder if all the elders are pedophiles. Yes we are all sinners and this sin can be forgiven and may have been forgiven by God like all others through Gods Grace and we should love our fellow man however this does not mean they should have allowed him back in a leadership position where he could have hurt other children. I AM SO GLAD SHE SPOKE UP!
Her father is just as guilty as the elders .
It has nothing to do with religion. It is a crime, and he should have gone to prison, ASAP. Her father knew, but also his wife, his pastor, church elders, James Robison. All complicit.
that's NOT a Church...its a glorified sinful club...Shame on them all.! come quickly Lord Jesus and take your TRUE CHURCH out of this dirty world...
Her father should be ashamed for not reporting him to the police.
...and 45 years later, because he wouldn't pay a ransom, she is very upset. RM is not a monster.
He should have been prosecuted while it was a fresh crime. How did we get this far without it coming out, if everyone knew?
Her father should have reported it to the police He needs to go to jail as well
@@kathydixon1666 agreed. Every person who kept it from being reported is guilty of aiding and abetting - possibly obstruction of justice.
He lied and minimized, told half-truths, and got so powerful that nobody could touch him. He had the ear of the President of the US, as his advisor from '16-'20.
What would Jesus do 😢
Why would a woman wait until a man is a grandfather to make this public?? Apparently they took care of it in 1987. 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
The biggest thing that bothers me is that it continued till she was 16 yrs old. Now she comes forward. No one seems to take that into consideration. Was he in the wrong? ABSOLUTELY. But so was she.
Did she recoil or secretly fantasize about being in love with a young man who was older? I had puppy love at that age but no knowledge of what kissing could lead to. I also had no idea how my adoration and romantic notions could arouse a man. At 16 I had sex with my first boyfriend after petting went to its natural conclusion. This young lady was not a young child. I wonder why she decided to destroy not just a man’s ministry, but a whole church. And why is this 30 year old sin considered the unpardonable sin? I don’t trust anyone who wants money for their “suffering”. We’ve all suffered and some of us have actually been raped.
Have you seen the perverts home !!!!
thought he lived with you?
There is no statute of limitations for pedophilia in the state of Texas!! Lock him up!!
Why are we just now talking about this? Where were her parents while this was happening UNDER THEIR ROOF?
I thought Texas did NOT have a statute of limitations on S.A. of a minor child??