These wonderful illustrations of Herman Vogel before radio and television crammed with interesting details must have been a real joy to the general public. Thank you Pete most interesting.
Thank you, a lot of beautiful images. I'm going to watch this again on a bigger screen, I'm afraid I missed a lot of details. Amazing how much work he did.
As I perused the various and wonderful woodland illustrations I was reminded on more than one occasion of 'The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke' by Richard Dadd. Thanks again Pete.
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and comment. And yes - Dadd's work has the same sense of little figures scurrying about in their own little world. Pity he didn't create more.
@@petebeardold age is a hard thing to find the blessings that exist...but the alternative is not a good thing to have to endure and be involved with instead of just being alive and old. There are many more enjoyable moments in our lives when we are present in our lives moment by moment with wonderment and creativity. Thanks for sharing your time and your thoughts on this journey of learning to live with love for life and the ability to be present with joyous celebration and delight ❤
Thanks for the latest video, Pete. This has got to be the best education I've even had. I find it remarkable that Vogel could produce such images to such a standard week after week.
Beautiful! I found myself stopping the video over and over to admire his work close-up. A great selection of music as well. Thanks for another entertaining video, Pete!
Thank you once again for introducing a superb artist that I had not known of before seeing your video. Vogel's work is powerfully dramatic, and there's much to learn from it about drawing and composition.
All of Vogel's works of Drama, Romance, Fantasy was surely one of many inspirations for the twentieth century's Sci-Fi illustrations we saw on novel covers, posters, film posters, digital art, etc. Having lived in a strife and unrest riddled European continent of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, he surely would have considered himself most fortunate - lived and died doing what he loved doing most. And in his country manor of rural Krebes.
Fantasy at his best, the quality of the work, the time taken (by ink, per hand.. i cannot imagine the precision, the dedication ) about this work, and also your work, your time and research .. Great presentation to this master.
• Hermann Vogel I am constantly amazed at the incredibly detailed work of these old-school illustrators. Vogel is no exception as he continued his extraordinarily detailed work through out his career. Equally amazing were the craftsmen that took his art and transferred it to the woodblock or copper engraving needed for reproduction. The few examples of Vogel's work in color are simply brilliant! Thank you for another great video packed full of astounding examples of Herr Vogel's work!
Thanks for this video, Pete. I remember after I had discovered Vogel I went on an internet search for him and one of the results was a video of yours, perhaps a survey type one in which he was one of several artists mentioned. I think his work is outstanding, and particularly enjoy how he plays with scale and graphic conventions, having tiny scenes around, below or above the main one, how sometimes the characters emerge from holes in the page, how he combines calligraphy and scenery, how the lettering can sometimes look like relief carving, and on and on. His characters are so multifarious and sharply imagined, their costumes complete and expressive. I can think of two illustrators that have similar energy, although in vastly different ways: Sergio Toppi and Richard Scarry.
Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation. Yes I featured him I think more than once in videos where his work was relevant. So I figured it was high time I covered him in greater detail.
Again, another one where it took me three times as long to get thru this amazing educational lesson: I stopped at almost every renedering and looked at the crazy details! They blew me away! So many I will download and return to investigate his work. Thanks!
Extraordinary and powerful work! I'm sure you are familiar with Sendak's JUNIPER TREE illustrations; I wonder if he had seen Vogel's work and was influenced a bit? I also see a hint of Vogel's countryman Dürer in the line work as well. As usual I'm attracted most to his anthropomorphic animals with their flawless anatomy but spot on expressions. Thanks for another great tour, Pete. Stay safe! Cheers!
Hello again, and I thought I detected some Sendak, too. Especially the three panels of that amazing procession. Thanks as always for your appreciation.
Hermann is an exceptional illustrator. Everywhere you look on all his illustrations there is something different from the main theme going on. I do an initial scan of the four corners of the work just to see what it's about, and that is totally impossible with this mans work. He uses no fillers, every little thing he draws has its own story, how does he put so much thought into every illustration? I obviously enjoyed this one Pete, thanks.
Amazingly high skilled and engaging work! Vogel was on the level of Franklin Booth, John R. Neill, and Joseph Clement Coll. Masterful stuff to say the least. He had an incredible body of work. His figures were very natural and aesthetically pleasing to look at, and there's a lot of life and energy in the drawing. The details were always fantastic, but never overpowering because Vogel seemed to really understand the value of contrast and negative space. Great video on an incredible artist, Pete!
There is no adequate way to say thanks for this continuing cornucopia of wonder. Each time a new episode appears, joy springs to my heart as I devour yet another delight of informative beauty. Bless you Mr. Beard.
Actually you did express your appreciation more than adequately, and I can only thank you for your enthusiasm for the channel content. It makes my efforts worthwhile.
A stunning presentation, as always, Mr. Beard. Vogel's mastery of detail is extraordinary. Thank you for this sumptuous offering and also for identifying the background music.
Magnificence of nature and the sensuality of life with otherworldly intensity of different detailed energetic experiences. Thanks Pete for taking the time and effort to introduce Herman Vogel to me and everyone in such an informative manner. I love the whimsical work that is enchanting and captivating. His 🧚♀️ fairy-tale house is a very magnificent place to see. What a lifetime of creativity and fortune. It is a huge body of work ❤
I hesitate to admit that the musical score was my favorite part of this video. I experienced more than one flashback to my childhood watching Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny singing selections from various Richard Wagner operas.
I must agree with most of your commentators: this was wonderful! It is a pity that drawing in this style, and craftmanship with pen and ink, is a forgotten art. It may be old-fashioned and out-of-date, but it will always be beautiful to look at. Thank you, once more !
While I appreciate seeing color illustrations, I think line and tonal pieces can be every bit as engrossing. Sometimes, I think pen and ink are best suited for some subjects. Regardless of my views, Hermann Vogel was a master at monochrome and color illustration. Once again, I thank you for bringing another illustrator to our attention.
Thanks for the comment. I love all his work, but I think it's a pity he didn;t get the chance to work in colour offset litho due to the tightfistedness of his employers.
(37) ENCHANTING!!! How wonderfully well-balanced his "busy" panels were; one could stare at a single panel and take hours poring over the details. Great upload, Mr. Beard!!!
Pete, I have been quietly cheering you on from the sidelines for the past few years, and oftentimes I think I'll just withhold comment because too many plaudits can begin to sound hollow after a while. But THIS!! It's difficult to express how (as mentioned by others) your peerless showcase of this German visual master, wedded to the perfect music of Strauss and Wagner is, frankly, overwhelming in the purest sense. And coming from a background steeped in childhood books with similar illustrative fare, it is humbling to see where much of the mainly British and American illustrators drew their inspiration from, notwithstanding the mystery of just how they they discovered Hermann Vogel's work. It's also revelatory to see his imprint in the the fanciful Middle-earth (or akin) stylings of comics greats such as Wally Wood and John Buscema--it is literally impossible not to see a graphic transfusion of Vogel in their work. I hesitate to meander on about what this means to a person of a certain demographic, but seeing this gallery, on the most modern of platforms, so beautifully realized without sacrificing an iota of the dynamic grace and power of these seasoned pages, is like trespassing onto the stage of some majestic theatrical opus, transmitted in high definition from some blink-and-it's-gone rip in the fabric of time. Except we get to replay it until our internal human curtain falls. Thank you Pete!! Do you ever tire of outdoing yourself sir?
Hello again, and to say I'm bowled over by the depth of your appreciation would be a huge understatement. Frankly if this was the only favourable comment you had made about my efforts with the channel it would be more than enough. For me, in the absence of making any meaningful income from my work (which was to be fair never the intention, although youtube are nevertheless a bunch of tightfisted devils) it's the appreciation I get from viewers that is my reward.Thanks a lot.
@@petebeard Thank you Pete. The quality of your research, truly astounding breadth of knowledge and meticulous care in crafting a superb video anthology on a topic that has been too long ignored obviously deserves fair compensation. I know this is not why you do this, but should you decide that an alternate sharing platform is a better choice to migrate to down the road, you will have always have a loyal subscriber here. I am certain that the lion's share of subscribers here echo that feeling.
Pete, it always amazes me for artist like this one, is how they can put so many different people and animals and other objects in one picture, in one composition, and make it look so real. Nice job again. Frank
Thanks for both your comments about this video, and I see what you mean with regard to the young heroes on horseback etcetera. I'm more a woodland animals and gnome fan, myself.
Hello Pete, I'm not english speaker and I do not want to write this rellying on a languaje machine so, sorry for my bad english!. I could put this comment in any of your videos but, thanks to your fantastic work in wich, I trully can take a deep look in the world of illustration that I love. I love animation, comic and Illustration, everithing that imply to tell a story by drawing. Not only as a viewer but also as a (in my case) bad maker. So, your videos are very very interesting and helpfull in many ways. Thak you!
In case you're interested in the text and it's translation on the picture at 15:18: Der junge Fuchs "Mein Vetter Reineke", sagt ein Junger Fuchs, ist ein Kriecher, ein Heuchler, ein Halunke - kurz, ein Kerl, den man sich zum Vorbild nehmen muß!" (Reinecke = Fuchs) The young fox "My cousin Reineke," says a young fox, is a sycophant, a hypocrite, a scoundrel - in short, a guy who one must take as a role model!" (Reinecke = fox) Thank you very much for introducing me to this interesting artist 🥰
Many thanks for your appreciation, subscription - and translation. I was tempted to attempt translation of some of the verses in google, but decided life (or mine at least) is too short. Thanks again.
Thanks a lot for your comment. I got lucky with the music as many times I try to embed the classics in the background, but despite when they were composed there are quite frequent copyright problems.
Another gem, Pete! Was Vogel another of these self-taught wonders that seem to crop up regularly throughout the history of illustration? He seemed to have a thing for trees, which makes me think of Charles Vess, another illustrator who uses trees and vegetation as a frame for his characters. My grandmother used to have some old posters of fruit printed, I'm pretty sure, using the chromolitho process. I remember them being incredibly bright and colour saturated with a kind of waxy surface to them. She also had a book on medical anatomy which seemed to feature the same process - the blood vessels were particularly red! And yes, it does seem a pity Vogel didn't produce more of his works in colour!
Thanks for your comment and appreciation. He did have one year of formal study but as far as I'm concerned that does make him effectively self taught. And thanks for Charles Vess, an illustrator I was unaware of.
Sentimental I may be but I love these fantasy illustrations. Vogel was clearly an extremely talented draughtsman with an acute imagination; I wonder how long it took him to conceive each image then to draw it in such extraordinary detail? I agree, 'though, that the lack of colour is a great pity.
Thanks for your comment and appreciation. Unfortunately nothing is recorded about how fast or otherwise he worked. But as I noted in the video the engraving would have taken much longer.
Really love the videos, they are both interesting and inspiring at the same time. If its alright to ask, is it possible for you to show some Filipino artists?
Thanks a lot for your appreciation of the channel content. Regarding Filipino illustrators I do have a master list of names, and hope some day at least to make a video about Filipino comic art in general. But it is outside my usual territory and would be harder for me to put together, as I have little to no prior knowledge on the subject. So the best I can do is say I will eventually get around to the subject, but in the meantime I still have a very long list of others to get through.
2:20 Got here faster than the lady in this picture said, ‘wait, I get a say in what happens to the tribe? A choice of husbands? Let’s ride!!’😂😂 (And yes, I know that wasn’t true for all tribes. ) 5:07 and the bunnies? So cute! And I want that house.😢 I see why you chose him-the battle and action scenes are so well done!✌️♥️🗳️🟦
This is rather off topic but I would love it if you gave the Pete treatment to two of my favourite English Victorian illustrators: Henry Justice Ford and Henry Holiday. The latter’s work for Carroll’s The Hunting of the Snark is a thing of surpassing strangeness.
@@petebeard perhaps Rockwell traveled or had European relatives I simply was noticing the style of realism of line and form that was more straight forward subdued in Rockwell, but no less visually expressive than the impact of Vogel anything is possible 🤔☺️
Great stuff as always. Could anyone recommend a good documentary on the craft of wood engraving such as it was practiced at the time, which is so essential to the appearance of most illustrations of the 19th century?
Thanks for the comment. And there are a couple of videos about wood engravng, and for that matter metal engraving on youtube, but I don't know of one that covers the subject in any real depth unfortunately. I wish there was one as I'm frequently out of my depth. But you mention "as practiced ar the time" and I can tell you with confidence that the process is no different now than it was in Durer's day.
Pete, I'm really ignorant of the process: How were pen & ink drawings transferred to a metal plate for engraving. I assume this was well before the "Art-O-Graph"--! Thanks for showing us this beautiful artwork.
Hello again, and to the best of my imperfect knowledge (and a little personal experience in my distant youth) it is/was identical to the same process with wood. The originals were covered in graphite on the back of the artwork, and drawn over to leave the essential linework on the wood/metal. Then in the case of metal very fine tipped devices were used to scratch into the surface to replicate the drawn lines, and that's what the ink was applied to. Incredible.
The works themselves are amazing, then people actually engraved these into wood for reproduction. Wow! It looks like they were an inspiration for Max. Parrish too.
@@petebeard... I forgot to add a big thank you for another lesson in illustration history! The detail and lushness of his work is staggering and I find it amazing how quickly he must have had to work for the weekly magazines!!
Muchas gracias por tu agradecimiento y me alegra que hayas disfrutado de las ilustraciones de Vogel. No conozco algún vídeo en particular sobre grabado pero debe haber muchos en youtube. Y entonces era igual que ahora, sobre madera o metal.
It's possible, but unlikely, given the time they lived. Vogel was certainly not published in the USA, and I doubt Pyle was published outside the states. But you never know...
@@petebeard I agree it's pretty unlikely unless he lived near a Germantown like Leavenworth Washington. Back in the day. German town's still used German language signs, you could buy German language newspapers, books, magazines etc. at the bookstore and magazines/newspaper stands.
Sigh...I was born in the wrong era. I wish it was easier to illustrate like they did in the fairytale book age. We can try on our own, but there is no schools or institutions or culture around it like there was back then in order to make it more possible.
Hello again, and to an extent I heartily agree with your comment. But on the other hand there's you and others who are in fact keeping this tradition alive in their work, and I thank you for that. It gives me hope.
While I admire the technical skill and output of this artist i cant help but feel that work like this has a toxic effect on a nation’s identity. It romanticizes a nation’s troubled past, ignores the social problems of the present and objectifies other peoples. I don’t hold illustrative art to the same standards as “fine art” i.e. a deep meaning or inventive technique that’s not generally its purpose but i still think it should be judged by its societal impact. After all There are many techniques at an illustrator’s disposal to present a more holistic view of society such as satire ,realistic depictions of peoples every day life both foreign and domestic and depictions of tragic mistakes in a nations history etc. It was of a special importance in the time before photography and when literacy rates were much lower when most peoples worldview were informed by images like these. There are also many long lasting effects that can come from images and ideas like these, particularly when they are copied or iterated on by later artist. Even if an artist’s intentions were good, they are all too easily subverted for racist propaganda sometimes generations later. Finally I would just like to say I don’t expect every illustrators work to express my worldview especially those in the past but more honest and holistic work even when [and perhaps especially] it’s negative can be a window into a people’s thoughts and feelings who differ from my own, both historically and contemporary. And that is the foundation upon which the bridge of empathy can be built, which is always of societal benefit.
Pure Communist critique standards, and like everything Left applied one-sidedly. Vogel's depiction of a mythic past is somehow bad, but what about Picasso's disgusting propaganda for the despicable Kim dynasty? Let art be art!
This is how cancel culture sounds like. "We have to retcon past things that don't fit our modern world view in order to create the present we (woke people) want." They are illustrations, mostly fantasy. Don't overload them with meaning just because the artist was German. Would you blame Rockwell for what the US is today?
These wonderful illustrations of Herman Vogel before radio and television crammed with interesting details must have been a real joy to the general public. Thank you Pete most interesting.
Thanks for the comment, and yes - these illustrators were very much the celebrities of their time. Deservedly so in my book.
Another fortifying dose of sublime enlightenment 😃
I'm very glad you think so. He really was a remarkable talent.
Thank you, a lot of beautiful images. I'm going to watch this again on a bigger screen, I'm afraid I missed a lot of details. Amazing how much work he did.
Many thanks for your appreciation of the video and Vogel's remarkable work.
As I perused the various and wonderful woodland illustrations I was reminded on more than one occasion of 'The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke' by Richard Dadd.
Thanks again Pete.
Thanks a lot for your appreciation and comment. And yes - Dadd's work has the same sense of little figures scurrying about in their own little world. Pity he didn't create more.
A welcome tonic in these cruel days and nights....many thanks Pete
It's more than possible that I've already thanked you for this comment, but in case I haven't here's another thanks. Old age can be a bother...
@@petebeardold age is a hard thing to find the blessings that exist...but the alternative is not a good thing to have to endure and be involved with instead of just being alive and old.
There are many more enjoyable moments in our lives when we are present in our lives moment by moment with wonderment and creativity.
Thanks for sharing your time and your thoughts on this journey of learning to live with love for life and the ability to be present with joyous celebration and delight ❤
Pete, your work is a treasure!
Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Such comments are always welcome.
Thanks for the latest video, Pete. This has got to be the best education I've even had. I find it remarkable that Vogel could produce such images to such a standard week after week.
Your ongoing appreciation and support of the channel is very welcome - thanks a lot.
Beautiful! I found myself stopping the video over and over to admire his work close-up. A great selection of music as well. Thanks for another entertaining video, Pete!
Many thanks for your appreciation, and I'm glad that the appropriate Germanic music was welcomed too.
Absolutely beautiful and incredibly captivating ❤🎉😊
Thank you once again for introducing a superb artist that I had not known of before seeing your video. Vogel's work is powerfully dramatic, and there's much to learn from it about drawing and composition.
I'm pleased to have made the introduction and I'm glad you are impressed with his work.
All of Vogel's works of Drama, Romance, Fantasy was surely one of many inspirations for the twentieth century's Sci-Fi illustrations we saw on novel covers, posters, film posters, digital art, etc. Having lived in a strife and unrest riddled European continent of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, he surely would have considered himself most fortunate - lived and died doing what he loved doing most. And in his country manor of rural Krebes.
Many thanks for your comments, and appreciation of Vogel's remarkable body of work.
Fantasy at his best, the quality of the work, the time taken (by ink, per hand.. i cannot imagine the precision, the dedication ) about this work, and also your work, your time and research .. Great presentation to this master.
Many thanks - from Herr Vogel and me.
• Hermann Vogel
I am constantly amazed at the incredibly detailed work of these old-school illustrators. Vogel is no exception as he continued his extraordinarily detailed work through out his career. Equally amazing were the craftsmen that took his art and transferred it to the woodblock or copper engraving needed for reproduction. The few examples of Vogel's work in color are simply brilliant!
Thank you for another great video packed full of astounding examples of Herr Vogel's work!
Thanks again for your appreciation, and Vogel is a great example of the abundantly talented and skilful practitioners of his age.
Vogel's work is amazing as are the engravers who transcribed his work, stunning illustrations.
Many thanks for your appreciation and comment.
Thanks for this video, Pete. I remember after I had discovered Vogel I went on an internet search for him and one of the results was a video of yours, perhaps a survey type one in which he was one of several artists mentioned. I think his work is outstanding, and particularly enjoy how he plays with scale and graphic conventions, having tiny scenes around, below or above the main one, how sometimes the characters emerge from holes in the page, how he combines calligraphy and scenery, how the lettering can sometimes look like relief carving, and on and on. His characters are so multifarious and sharply imagined, their costumes complete and expressive. I can think of two illustrators that have similar energy, although in vastly different ways: Sergio Toppi and Richard Scarry.
Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation. Yes I featured him I think more than once in videos where his work was relevant. So I figured it was high time I covered him in greater detail.
Thank you for sharing this incredible artist's work.
You are more than welcome.
Again, another one where it took me three times as long to get thru this amazing educational lesson: I stopped at almost every renedering and looked at the crazy details! They blew me away!
So many I will download and return to investigate his work. Thanks!
Hi again, and yes I think this one really was an image overload, courtesy of Herr Vogel. What a remarkably talented and imaginative chap he was.
Extraordinary and powerful work! I'm sure you are familiar with Sendak's JUNIPER TREE illustrations; I wonder if he had seen Vogel's work and was influenced a bit? I also see a hint of Vogel's countryman Dürer in the line work as well. As usual I'm attracted most to his anthropomorphic animals with their flawless anatomy but spot on expressions. Thanks for another great tour, Pete. Stay safe! Cheers!
Hello again, and I thought I detected some Sendak, too. Especially the three panels of that amazing procession. Thanks as always for your appreciation.
I'm always left in awe at the skills of the engravers involved in recreating those stunning originals.
It is rather mind-boggling to me too. Thanks for the comment.
@@petebeard❤
What a fine eye for details by this illustrator and a wonderful sense of composition and lighting.
As has been my previous experience, I come away from this biography entertained as well as educated. Thanks!
Your apprciation is always welcome.
I agree wholeheartedly ❤
Hermann is an exceptional illustrator. Everywhere you look on all his illustrations there is something different from the main theme going on. I do an initial scan of the four corners of the work just to see what it's about, and that is totally impossible with this mans work. He uses no fillers, every little thing he draws has its own story, how does he put so much thought into every illustration? I obviously enjoyed this one Pete, thanks.
Thanks for your comment, and I'm delighted to hear you are as enthhusiastic about his work as I am.
Amazingly high skilled and engaging work! Vogel was on the level of Franklin Booth, John R. Neill, and Joseph Clement Coll. Masterful stuff to say the least. He had an incredible body of work. His figures were very natural and aesthetically pleasing to look at, and there's a lot of life and energy in the drawing. The details were always fantastic, but never overpowering because Vogel seemed to really understand the value of contrast and negative space. Great video on an incredible artist, Pete!
Thanks again for your comment. And round and round the influence goes. Sadly it's rarely recorded who knew about who at the time.
Wow, what a great artist he was, I think this the best of videos so far, i will enjoy watching this again. Thank you Pete.
Thanks a lot - and feel free to watch it as many times as you like.
These beautyfull illustrations are that rich on details that a much bigger screen is needed to appreciate them correctly.
Thanks for the comment. They look much better on a big TV.
There is no adequate way to say thanks for this continuing cornucopia of wonder. Each time a new episode appears, joy springs to my heart as I devour yet another delight of informative beauty. Bless you Mr. Beard.
Actually you did express your appreciation more than adequately, and I can only thank you for your enthusiasm for the channel content. It makes my efforts worthwhile.
A stunning presentation, as always, Mr. Beard. Vogel's mastery of detail is extraordinary. Thank you for this sumptuous offering and also for identifying the background music.
Thanks a lot for your appreciation.
Magnificence of nature and the sensuality of life with otherworldly intensity of different detailed energetic experiences.
Thanks Pete for taking the time and effort to introduce Herman Vogel to me and everyone in such an
informative manner.
I love the whimsical work that is enchanting and captivating.
His 🧚♀️ fairy-tale house is a very magnificent place to see.
What a lifetime of creativity and fortune. It is a huge body of work ❤
As usual your appreciation of another offering on the channel is more than welcome, and I'm very pleased you admire Vogel's work.
I hesitate to admit that the musical score was my favorite part of this video.
I experienced more than one flashback to my childhood watching Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny singing selections from various Richard Wagner operas.
Thanks a lot for your comment.
I must agree with most of your commentators: this was wonderful! It is a pity that drawing in this style, and craftmanship with pen and ink, is a forgotten art. It may be old-fashioned and out-of-date, but it will always be beautiful to look at. Thank you, once more !
Thanks for your favourable comment. Always welcome.
While I appreciate seeing color illustrations, I think line and tonal pieces can be every bit as engrossing. Sometimes, I think pen and ink are best suited for some subjects. Regardless of my views, Hermann Vogel was a master at monochrome and color illustration. Once again, I thank you for bringing another illustrator to our attention.
Thanks for the comment. I love all his work, but I think it's a pity he didn;t get the chance to work in colour offset litho due to the tightfistedness of his employers.
(37) ENCHANTING!!! How wonderfully well-balanced his "busy" panels were; one could stare at a single panel and take hours poring over the details. Great upload, Mr. Beard!!!
Thanks as always for your continuing appreciation. He really was a master of his craft.
Thank you, Mr. Beard, for these beautiful and educational videos.
You are more than welcome.
Obrigado por resgatar mais um bom ilustrador😁
Sua apreciação é muito bem-vinda - muito obrigado.
Joy to see!
Thanks a lot for your comment.
Thanks for another video~!
Thank you for this one. I did not know the name of Hermann Vogel, but I have the feeling I have seen his work before. I love the detailing.
Many thanks for your acomment and appreciation of Vogel's work.
Now what can i say about Vogel's artworks , amazing ! A real master of his craft .
I'm very pleased you enjoyed his work. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you so much for Showcasing this wonderful work ! It is a real treasure !
Thanks for your comment and I'm pleased to hear you appreciate Vogel's work.
Wonderful stuff, thank you
Im glad you enjoyed his work - thanks a lot.
Fantastic! Thank you.
Many thanks for your appreciation of this video.
Pete, I have been quietly cheering you on from the sidelines for the past few years, and oftentimes I think I'll just withhold comment because too many plaudits can begin to sound hollow after a while. But THIS!! It's difficult to express how (as mentioned by others) your peerless showcase of this German visual master, wedded to the perfect music of Strauss and Wagner is, frankly, overwhelming in the purest sense. And coming from a background steeped in childhood books with similar illustrative fare, it is humbling to see where much of the mainly British and American illustrators drew their inspiration from, notwithstanding the mystery of just how they they discovered Hermann Vogel's work. It's also revelatory to see his imprint in the the fanciful Middle-earth (or akin) stylings of comics greats such as Wally Wood and John Buscema--it is literally impossible not to see a graphic transfusion of Vogel in their work.
I hesitate to meander on about what this means to a person of a certain demographic, but seeing this gallery, on the most modern of platforms, so beautifully realized without sacrificing an iota of the dynamic grace and power of these seasoned pages, is like trespassing onto the stage of some majestic theatrical opus, transmitted in high definition from some blink-and-it's-gone rip in the fabric of time.
Except we get to replay it until our internal human curtain falls.
Thank you Pete!! Do you ever tire of outdoing yourself sir?
Hello again, and to say I'm bowled over by the depth of your appreciation would be a huge understatement. Frankly if this was the only favourable comment you had made about my efforts with the channel it would be more than enough. For me, in the absence of making any meaningful income from my work (which was to be fair never the intention, although youtube are nevertheless a bunch of tightfisted devils) it's the appreciation I get from viewers that is my reward.Thanks a lot.
@@petebeard Thank you Pete. The quality of your research, truly astounding breadth of knowledge and meticulous care in crafting a superb video anthology on a topic that has been too long ignored obviously deserves fair compensation. I know this is not why you do this, but should you decide that an alternate sharing platform is a better choice to migrate to down the road, you will have always have a loyal subscriber here. I am certain that the lion's share of subscribers here echo that feeling.
Greetings from South Africa!
Great video as always.... This guy reminds me of Gustave Dorre (sp?) Thank you!
Doré.
Thanks - and I see I've been beaten to the punch regarding spelling.
Pete, it always amazes me for artist like this one, is how they can put so many different people and animals and other objects in one picture, in one composition, and make it look so real. Nice job again. Frank
Thanks again for your favourable comment.
🤗😊 the best part of his plates having no color is that we all, who love his art now have high quality coloring in books for adults.
Thanks for the comment - an amusing idea.
Thank you for another great video 😊
...and thank you for another appreciative comment.
Vogel's pen and ink work seems to have been an inspiration for Hal Foster of Prince Valiant fame.
Thanks for both your comments about this video, and I see what you mean with regard to the young heroes on horseback etcetera. I'm more a woodland animals and gnome fan, myself.
WOOOWWWW AL FIN LO QUE HABIA ESTADO ESPERANDO, GRACIAS!!!!
I like it very much. these are masterpieces on the level of Gustave Doré.
Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation of Vogel's work.
Hello Pete, I'm not english speaker and I do not want to write this rellying on a languaje machine so, sorry for my bad english!. I could put this comment in any of your videos but, thanks to your fantastic work in wich, I trully can take a deep look in the world of illustration that I love. I love animation, comic and Illustration, everithing that imply to tell a story by drawing. Not only as a viewer but also as a (in my case) bad maker. So, your videos are very very interesting and helpfull in many ways. Thak you!
Much of his work is very Germanic, as to be expected. Though I’m no artist, I greatly appreciate your meticulous research.
Thanks. I love the way he refused to engage with the real world. Even his house was a fantasy structure.
@@petebeard I don’t suppose that the real world was any more agreeable then than it is now.
In case you're interested in the text and it's translation on the picture at 15:18:
Der junge Fuchs
"Mein Vetter Reineke", sagt ein Junger Fuchs, ist
ein Kriecher, ein Heuchler, ein Halunke - kurz, ein
Kerl, den man sich zum Vorbild nehmen muß!"
(Reinecke = Fuchs)
The young fox
"My cousin Reineke," says a young fox, is a sycophant, a hypocrite, a scoundrel - in short, a guy who one must take as a role model!" (Reinecke = fox)
Thank you very much for introducing me to this interesting artist 🥰
Many thanks for your appreciation, subscription - and translation. I was tempted to attempt translation of some of the verses in google, but decided life (or mine at least) is too short. Thanks again.
This is why I subscribed years ago.
Thanks a lot for your comment - and of course your continuing subscription.
i like his maniacially drawn details around the main objects
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed Vogel's work.
His work has an amazing 3D quality
Very true. Thanks for the comment.
wasn't familiar with his work. some of those are just so terrific i'm surprised i haven't seen them before. great stuff!
Thanks for your appreiation again, and I'm pleased you enjoyed his work.
Golly! I have a new art-hero thanks to you.
I'm delighted to hear it. Thanks for the comment.
Great work as always, Pete. And loved the Strauss and Wagner.
Thanks a lot for your comment. I got lucky with the music as many times I try to embed the classics in the background, but despite when they were composed there are quite frequent copyright problems.
Another gem, Pete! Was Vogel another of these self-taught wonders that seem to crop up regularly throughout the history of illustration? He seemed to have a thing for trees, which makes me think of Charles Vess, another illustrator who uses trees and vegetation as a frame for his characters.
My grandmother used to have some old posters of fruit printed, I'm pretty sure, using the chromolitho process. I remember them being incredibly bright and colour saturated with a kind of waxy surface to them. She also had a book on medical anatomy which seemed to feature the same process - the blood vessels were particularly red!
And yes, it does seem a pity Vogel didn't produce more of his works in colour!
Thanks for your comment and appreciation. He did have one year of formal study but as far as I'm concerned that does make him effectively self taught. And thanks for Charles Vess, an illustrator I was unaware of.
Sentimental I may be but I love these fantasy illustrations. Vogel was clearly an extremely talented draughtsman with an acute imagination; I wonder how long it took him to conceive each image then to draw it in such extraordinary detail? I agree, 'though, that the lack of colour is a great pity.
Thanks for your comment and appreciation. Unfortunately nothing is recorded about how fast or otherwise he worked. But as I noted in the video the engraving would have taken much longer.
@@petebeard Many thanks, Mr Beard.
His talent was miraculous
I an only agree with that assessment.
Beautiful.
How true.
Truly a master in his field! Alas, was this Germany of scarcely more than a hundred years ago? It seems much much longer...Adé, adé, du Heimatwelt...
Thanks for your comment and appreciation of his work.
Really love the videos, they are both interesting and inspiring at the same time. If its alright to ask, is it possible for you to show some Filipino artists?
Thanks a lot for your appreciation of the channel content. Regarding Filipino illustrators I do have a master list of names, and hope some day at least to make a video about Filipino comic art in general. But it is outside my usual territory and would be harder for me to put together, as I have little to no prior knowledge on the subject. So the best I can do is say I will eventually get around to the subject, but in the meantime I still have a very long list of others to get through.
Well I'm going to have to study this man's work more in depth.
There are worse ways to spend your time.
Magnificent.
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed his work.
2:20 Got here faster than the lady in this picture said, ‘wait, I get a say in what happens to the tribe? A choice of husbands? Let’s ride!!’😂😂
(And yes, I know that wasn’t true for all tribes. )
5:07 and the bunnies? So cute!
And I want that house.😢
I see why you chose him-the battle and action scenes are so well done!✌️♥️🗳️🟦
Thanks for your comment and appreciation, and the house is now his museum so probably not up for sale. And anyway I saw it first...
@@petebeard 😂😂Well you are closer, so I will have to let you have it!
This is rather off topic but I would love it if you gave the Pete treatment to two of my favourite English Victorian illustrators: Henry Justice Ford and Henry Holiday. The latter’s work for Carroll’s The Hunting of the Snark is a thing of surpassing strangeness.
Yes I wanted to feature Holiday but could not find enough visual material. And Ford will appear but probably in the unsung heroes series.
I can't imagine that Rockwell was not inspired by this artist.
Thanks a lot for your comment. It's possible - but quite unlikely Rockwell would have been aware of him as he was never published in the USA.
@@petebeard perhaps Rockwell traveled or had European relatives I simply was noticing the style of realism of line and form that was more straight forward subdued in Rockwell, but no less visually expressive than the impact of Vogel anything is possible 🤔☺️
Great stuff as always. Could anyone recommend a good documentary on the craft of wood engraving such as it was practiced at the time, which is so essential to the appearance of most illustrations of the 19th century?
Thanks for the comment. And there are a couple of videos about wood engravng, and for that matter metal engraving on youtube, but I don't know of one that covers the subject in any real depth unfortunately. I wish there was one as I'm frequently out of my depth. But you mention "as practiced ar the time" and I can tell you with confidence that the process is no different now than it was in Durer's day.
@@petebeard Oh wow, really? I thought that some mechanization or powered tools had been brought in by then, given the volume of work they cranked out.
Pete, I'm really ignorant of the process: How were pen & ink drawings transferred to a metal plate for engraving. I assume this was well before the "Art-O-Graph"--! Thanks for showing us this beautiful artwork.
Hello again, and to the best of my imperfect knowledge (and a little personal experience in my distant youth) it is/was identical to the same process with wood. The originals were covered in graphite on the back of the artwork, and drawn over to leave the essential linework on the wood/metal. Then in the case of metal very fine tipped devices were used to scratch into the surface to replicate the drawn lines, and that's what the ink was applied to. Incredible.
When I see all this amazing art from the recent past, I can't help but conclude that Western Civilization has declined somewhat.
Sadly, you have a point. Thanks for the comment.
Vogel means Bird
Thanks a lot for your trio of comments for this video. Greatly appreciated.
The works themselves are amazing, then people actually engraved these into wood for reproduction. Wow! It looks like they were an inspiration for Max. Parrish too.
Thanks a lot for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed Vogel's marvellous work.
👍
thanks as always
2:03 ... Now there's a ship's figurehead you don't see every day!
Once seen never forgotten.
@@petebeard... I forgot to add a big thank you for another lesson in illustration history! The detail and lushness of his work is staggering and I find it amazing how quickly he must have had to work for the weekly magazines!!
TIENES ALGUN VIDEO DE REFERENCIA PARA VER COMO SE HACE O SE HACIA EL GRABADO EN AQUELLA EPOCA?
Muchas gracias por tu agradecimiento y me alegra que hayas disfrutado de las ilustraciones de Vogel. No conozco algún vídeo en particular sobre grabado pero debe haber muchos en youtube. Y entonces era igual que ahora, sobre madera o metal.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thanks again...
I wonder if he saw any of Howard Pyle's art or vice versa?
It's possible, but unlikely, given the time they lived. Vogel was certainly not published in the USA, and I doubt Pyle was published outside the states. But you never know...
@@petebeard I agree it's pretty unlikely unless he lived near a Germantown like Leavenworth Washington. Back in the day. German town's still used German language signs, you could buy German language newspapers, books, magazines etc. at the bookstore and magazines/newspaper stands.
10 to 1 his publishers didn’t want to pay for colour reproduction, and Vogel worked to their briefs
Absolutely correct - Fliegende were too tightfisted to use colour until around 1926 and Vogel was already dead. Thanks for the comment.
Sigh...I was born in the wrong era. I wish it was easier to illustrate like they did in the fairytale book age. We can try on our own, but there is no schools or institutions or culture around it like there was back then in order to make it more possible.
Hello again, and to an extent I heartily agree with your comment. But on the other hand there's you and others who are in fact keeping this tradition alive in their work, and I thank you for that. It gives me hope.
@@petebeard We're trying. lol
4:39 at Easter no one can hear you scream.
It is a most bizarre image.
Sorry pete, once Tannhauser begins i cant give anything else my attention.
Then you simpler must try harder.
While I admire the technical skill and output of this artist i cant help but feel that work like this has a toxic effect on a nation’s identity. It romanticizes a nation’s troubled past, ignores the social problems of the present and objectifies other peoples. I don’t hold illustrative art to the same standards as “fine art” i.e. a deep meaning or inventive technique that’s not generally its purpose but i still think it should be judged by its societal impact. After all There are many techniques at an illustrator’s disposal to present a more holistic view of society such as satire ,realistic depictions of peoples every day life both foreign and domestic and depictions of tragic mistakes in a nations history etc. It was of a special importance in the time before photography and when literacy rates were much lower when most peoples worldview were informed by images like these. There are also many long lasting effects that can come from images and ideas like these, particularly when they are copied or iterated on by later artist. Even if an artist’s intentions were good, they are all too easily subverted for racist propaganda sometimes generations later. Finally I would just like to say I don’t expect every illustrators work to express my worldview especially those in the past but more honest and holistic work even when [and perhaps especially] it’s negative can be a window into a people’s thoughts and feelings who differ from my own, both historically and contemporary. And that is the foundation upon which the bridge of empathy can be built, which is always of societal benefit.
Pure Communist critique standards, and like everything Left applied one-sidedly. Vogel's depiction of a mythic past is somehow bad, but what about Picasso's disgusting propaganda for the despicable Kim dynasty? Let art be art!
This is how cancel culture sounds like. "We have to retcon past things that don't fit our modern world view in order to create the present we (woke people) want."
They are illustrations, mostly fantasy. Don't overload them with meaning just because the artist was German.
Would you blame Rockwell for what the US is today?
Next time you copy and paste your 'thoughts' from ChatGPT, make sure to include paragraphs for better readability.
Next time you copy and paste your "thoughts" from ChatGPT, make sure you include paragraphs for better readability.
I certainly agree his work in monochrome is amazing and yet the color images were still more impressive. Thanks for the video
Thanks a lot for another favourable comment. I would have loved to see more colour, but his employers were just too tight-fisted.