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you should check out Chuck Missler's lectures on the Amalekites/Canaanites as well, but this makes so much sense. Just another effort of the Smithsonian to attempt to cover up the archeological truths in Scripture.
"You're going to meet the very people who made you chicken out in the first place and cost you forty years in the wilderness. It must be done." I was waiting for you to say that.
Yes it does and also the claim that the God of the bible is a blood thirsty god is combatant against mankind is settled also, the children of Israel are killing the offspring of the fallen elohim.
@@stylicho In 2 Sam 21, it sounds like there were Goliath Brothers, 4, or, 5, of them. It names different men killing different giants in different places. It says David, and his servants killed the Goliath Brothers. David killed Joe-blow Goliath, and the others were killed by his servants. They didn't use first names in the OT. Family lines were still a thing back then. It's hard to differentiate sometimes.
Dr. Mike, I wish I could take all of your biblically historical knowledge and transfer it into my brain. I get bits & pieces on here but believe there is so much more. I’m hooked !
Just heard Netanyahu reference Amalek. Sure wish you were here to discuss this Professor Heiser but I thank God for all the teachings you blessed us with.
Thank you. You did an excellent job putting together what I thought 25 years ago. I found an article back then titled "The Ruthlessness of God". Basically it put together the giants with the Canaanites. I could understand the death penality due to what they were DNA wise along with their practices which really isn't much different from today's society. That article sealed my belief in God's Sovereignty and his election of his people.
This makes sense. The problem is that a lot of (even conservative ) churches don’t believe the Genesis 6 passage refers to fallen angels mating with human women with the result being the Nephilim (giants). Anakim is associated with giants if I’m correct. My church believes the son of Seth/daughter of Cain narrative.
You're not correct. In fact, that's impossible since there's never been any such thing as post-flood Nephilim since God didn't fail and the flood wasn't much of a waste.
@@KenAmmi-ShalomGenesis 6:4 explicitly states that the Nephilim were on the earth in those days and after, the context of the proceeding verse being God decreeing mans days as 120 years before he sent the flood. That doesn't make the flood a waste, evil people were wiped out and that was the whole point. The Lord states in Genesis 8:21-23 that the intentions of man's heart is evil from his youth, so nothing has changed on the sin front, except humanity has a very dramatic example of how seriously God judges wickedness to look back at in history, so no culture is without excuse.
@@walter1383 Correct. Just like Joshua was an imperfect type of the conquering Christ, and Job was an imperfect type of the suffering servant, and David was an imperfect type of a righteous King Christ, and the temple was an imperfect type of the heavenly court, so the flood was an imperfect type of the coming Day of the Lord who will reign judgment down upon this present evil age.
God wiped out civilizations with flood, fire, and armies. He is going to do it again in future. Sometimes seems harsh with my small understanding of whats going on behind the spiritual curtain...but I trust Yah.
Hey Daniel the terminator! I'm a huge Heiser fan. He opened my eyes to so much and the Bible and Jesus are so much more awesome than I had ever thought before. Unseen Realm just blew my mind, however, most of my Christian friends don't know anything this. However I've met some charismatic types that know all about the Nephilum and the 3 falls of humanity.
I enjoy the clips that are posted here but they are usually from what seem to be classes or presentations. Is there somewhere that I can find the full classes? I've already read The Unseen Realm and am starting Reversing Hermon so I think I get what he is going for in this particular class but I always like watching an author in class because they include information they couldn't fit into their books or information they have picked up since publishing. I especially like his take on the Canaanite conquest. It seems like most scholars and authors I know of are so busy being morally and emotionally offended that they think of nothing else but finding a way to satisfy their unrest with the conquest.
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Dr. Mike, I wish you can be a part of the current famous Christian apologists out there, they leave out everything you said in this video. Please write a book about all the stuff in the Bible like slavery, supposed genocide, etc.
All this information is out there and available especially at the scholar/university level. Its really a matter of intellectual laziness or not wanting to "rock the boat" that this accurate understanding is ignored.
Your commentaries are very refreshing; especially in light of the countless instances of so called "teachers" lifting short sections of scripture out of their context and creating false doctrines. I do have some questions which can hopefully be answered at some point in your teachings: What became of the Anakim, etc, during the Babylonian captivity? Are the Hattites and the Hethites different people? Do have any teachings concerning " kindling a fire on the Sabbath? I have seen wildly divergent interpretations of this subject; even so far as to suggest that it means you can't be with your wife on the Sabbath. I am indeed thankful that you are able to devote the time to spreading the truth. Especially to an old hard-working country boy like myself. Thank you!
Man you consistently blow my mind and I like to think I know my bible, I never put these things together and was never taught this stuff for sure. Thanks Mike 👍🏻
awesome video, grateful for the insight on such tough passages! All makes sense when read through the biblical narrative as you say, and not what "social media" is telling us. Do you have any books dedicated to this subject?
You can also check out Dr. Heiser's books -- Unseen Realm or its less academic counterpart, Supernatural. As Baltic Hammer states above, Reversing Hermon also covers the topic.
Heiser is an apologist and takes the Copan diversionary approach. There are scholarly books on this topic and he just took his apologetic BS and ran with it.
@@gmac6503 Never heard of Copan, so you can correct me here, but Heiser is using anything but diversion. His whole approach is that the descendants of the Nephilim (the Anakim mostly; the giant clans) was the point of the conquest. These giant clans were the ones given the Hebrew designation "kharem" (devoted to destruction). If you read Heiser, he believed Genesis 6 was a major infiltration by rebel spiritual beings into our physical world. His view was that as awful and gruesome as the conquest was, it was necessary to ensure that the tarnishing of the human race by the 'sons of God' in Genesis 6 was put to an end.
@@tubaszuba I already know what Heiser believed and what he taught. I followed him for years and have all his materials and works. He recommended Paul Copen and I listened to that audiobook at least four times. The name of it is _is god a moral monster?: Making sense of the Old Testament God_ and it is an excuse and diversion and that is why I called Dr. Heiser and his take on it also a diversion. As far as the rest of your comment I already knew all that. I've read more of him than you have and I've mentioned that a few times when I comment. Maybe you haven't read that before so I'm not gonna repeat everything I have by him. Now you know. You can't tell me anything new although I'm sure I've forgotten some of his minor points but I've listened to every one of his naked Bible podcasts and I was a Patreon and I could go on and on
@@87solarsky no they did not. Humans did. These were other humans. If I say I killed unicorns, and they were actually horses, but my story I write says unicorns, does that make unicorns real? No.
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Very interesting. So these conquests were about restoring the land to the values and systems and laws that God had originally designed? Am I understanding this correctly?
Thank you, this confirms my intuition, all the way back to the Watchers. Great Men are closer to God, and if they are not of your people but the enemy, then they cannot be allowed to live. Spies of Israel, Bene Elohim, Men of Renown. Is it a fair reading in your opinion to read these as Great Men, but of the enemy and so they must not remain? An answer would be appreciated. Also, I might look into the verbs used in association with these titles earlier in Genesis.
"Men of Renown" and these other superlatives could simply have very different context, than those associated with our common era? These terms may be more in the vein of saying this, that or those guys are infamous and for their outward appearance and evil deeds. These giants were abominations and threw God's natural order into chaos. I think the Watchers and Satan planned to breed out, Yeshua Christ, by polluting the human gene pool so badly, that the foretold of savior could not be born, as a pure man. It's astounding to me, that these divine beings could actually believe they could thwart God?!
@@jasonleveck8546 Once again, we do not know what the words mean in math. I commented below to a clear literal atheist that we are NOT our DNA, that is the most stable biochemical marker of cellular architecture and machinery. We are RNA->DNA->Protein. I personally think that gluttony of one form or another in utero and early development MAY have flipped on the growth allele in these clans too long, making a higher likelihood of actual physical giantism. But this ignores the Watchers as the ORIGIN of Giants in the land. And the need to kill them for teaching the secrets of Heaven: MEN can't deal with that tech without killing each other for it. I subscribe to a psyco-physical approach to reading the world we are not living in, but can imagine. This does not conflict with your take. Heiser is the language expert. Fair?
@@dsm5d723 Dr. Heiser is an expert in Hebrew. I believe the giants were part divine and part human. Angel is sort of a throwaway term. It just translates to messenger or is a job title. Angels don't have wings and I think in many ways, they are much closer to ourselves, other than being immortal. I do believe the watchers were divine beings, part of the heavenly host and that they manifested bodies for themselves and began breeding with human females.
@@jasonleveck8546 Does this address the idea of their offspring resulting in bloodshed, from Enoch? I know the real meaning, but people cannot see the physics. SOMEBODY put me over the better part of mankind. Not a paid job description in this world. If the idea, the Logos, of Innovation is a thing we can inductively arrive at, and the WORLD wants to steal it, who is shedding the blood, and who is watching, mirror neuron activating their programming, and who is not perfect in their generations? If you KNOW your generation will be a failure and insist on the need for it, you are the devil. Paul might have been milder on humanity than I, but I have no inheritance with Israel, as a Levite by disposition. And no business to carry on among the people. My portion was stolen, and I did not see the way to be too far. We are waiting for the End out of sheer laziness and cognitive miserliness. Deuteronomy 14: 23-29.
@@dsm5d723 As I understand it, Enoch delivered the news of damnation to those watchers held most responsible. That they would see their own offspring murdered and be helpless to stop it. Some very excellent scholars now are understanding that the ministry of Yeshua the Christ, was very much or directly influenced by Enoch. As far as your question(s) about programming and or neurons and things of that nature, I don't know anything about those things. I'm ignorant of your referencing Paul, Israel and Levite, in any of this? I had it put to me, that this whole debacle is known as the Cosmic War of the Seed. Yahweh's seed VS. The Fallen's seed.
Genetic tampering.....DNA tampering, CRISPR, attempt at making animal/human hybrids. That is my best guess. The process in making Nephilim is resurrected.
Some plausible theories. There was a new group of rebellious angels that came down. The flood didn't wipe out every carrier of nephilim genetics, as in it was a regional flood. Someone on the ark had nephilim genetics. My random thoughts is the flood was to wipe all the corrupted "organisms". So why would nephilim be allowed to survive the flood? Same thinking for an ark passenger. It seems more likely another rebellion took place. By the time Joshua gets to Canaan, there are whole cities totally polluted with unclean people. But anything is possible so I'm just thinking of most likely.
A -- There's SO much interesting info on this... I LIKE Rob Skiba's explanation best because he reviews the genealogies on Ham, Shem and Japeth and how Noah curses Ham's newborn son for something that Ham did!. Now that I learned how Heiser explained that the OATH of the 200 Watchers on Mt. Hermon was an actual CURSE to bind them together in their sin... and it's related to the sexual activity and self defiling... And some of the physical characteristics borne out by the nephilim were six fingers, six toes, double rows of teeth, elongated skulls, and RED hair... Skiba's teaching on the genealogies demonstrates giants in Ham's line and some in Japeth -- that could only have come from their wives -- who must have been tainted. Shem's line was not, Jesus' genealogy comes from Shem. So, these bloodlines may have carried those markers. There are others, like L.A. Marzulli, who disagree. Joshua chased out the ANAKIM and declared the land was free of them. But Marzulli proposes these giants escaped to other lands -- like Peru. There, in Peru are graveyards FULL of elongated skulls. Anyway, check out Rob Skiba's Mt. Hermon Roswell Connection and Marzulli's On the Trail of the Nephilim. You'll be fascinated!!
@Pond3r Thiz I have been saved for over 50 years. Heiser isn't preaching to the lost, but informing the people who wish to deepen their understanding of the scripture. Why are you scolding someone for being interested? What's your business here?? To turn someone away as if they were doing something wrong for asking a question ❓. The Catholic church had the bible CHAINED UP to the podium in the dark ages!! No one was allowed to ask questions... But they WERE allowed to PURCHASE salvation!! Now that we HAVE salvation, it's nice to EXPLORE what God's word ACTUALLY says about the past -- because it will have a bearing on the future, I believe.
Why is it that every time I fact-check Heiser, he comes up short? (Sihon and Og were east of the Jordan river, Anak was west. And theres no mention of Anak as being as far north as Hezor. They were south of Hebron) This is basic stuff. Not sure where Heiser is getting his info because i can't find it in my Bible.
Dr. Heiser was credentialed and experienced but not infallible, his Nephilology wasn’t biblical, and he tended to create more problems than he solved-see these articles for examples: Review of Amy Richter and Michael Heiser on four Enochian Watcher related women in Jesus’ genealogy Rebuttal to Dr. Michael Heiser’s “All I Want for Christmas is Another Flawed Nephilim Rebuttal”
God didn't allow the Israelites to take the short way, they weren't ready to fight a strong and terrible enemy. They were slaves, and had no training in warfare. God had to get them to trust Him, Obey Him, put away their 400 years of pagan ideals gotten from the Egyptians. He showed them He would fight their battles if they obeyed Him in wiping out the Giants, etc.
Interesting comment. Thinking about it, yes I agree they had a slave mentality as they were conditioned by it. They also had Egyptian gods/beliefs embedded in them and likely would interfere with God's plans for the people later on. Refreshing to read well thought out comments on Ytube.
Joshua 11:11 and 14 clearly say that no survivors were left in the land. Everything that breathed was annihilated. I’m intrigued by your emphasis on the hill country and the descendants of Anak because I’ve never heard that before and I can see where you get that. I just don’t understand how you reconcile those verses with your final point. It seems plain to me that in those cases, Israel did completely annihilate cities. Those instances do not refer to driving anyone out.
According to jewish tradition...the requirement to sue for peace applies to the canaanites. Any canaanite city that was willing to join israelite society was accepted. It did, however demand that they renounce thsir idolatries and other practices which G-d Abhors. There were plenty of canaanites living in the land of israel after the conquest, who were, one way or another, over time integrated into israelite society.
Most seminaries and their professors don't know or understand the topic. That is across the broad board of Christianity. The problem is made far worse when these seminarians and pastors close their ears to new evidence or better interpretation. They cling to their flawed man-made doctrines drafted by the ignorant predecessors of their denominations.
@@Baltic_Hammer6162 You only have one year of Bible in seminaries compared to three years in Bible College. Most Pastors today don't go to Bible College, let alone a good one...
would you be confident saying God never waged a war that wasnt in self defense or descendants of anak. i had your view before but i cant remember if all the armies israel waged against in kings 1/2 were pure humans and/or had the Nephilim/anak gene - perhaps not full blown anaks but definitely have traceable obvious lineage
All of the race ending in "im" are race of giants, they have tainted seed which is God's not original creation. That's why Joshua's conquest is to drive out those beings into the land of Canaan.
Only if you drive them Not out they Will be Thorns in your people and cause you to commit the Sins by worshipping gods that your fathers knew Not. The Sin of ldolatry taking their daughters to wife and giving your daughters to them to wife...
Remember, not everything that's in the Bible is historical, many of those stories are metaphors, you can ask the Rabbies and if you follow the narrative you may find the clues for your own, of course, there are many others who will tell you legends and so, but, remember never was a country called Israel before, those who became the twelve tribes were the descendants of so-called son's of Jakob or Jacob, and how big used to be his land? nobody knows, so how you will claim a territory if they don't even know where it was. many others said that's hidden teaching in these writings, of how you regain control of yourself, the fights that you have fight every day to achieve holiness and be one with the Holy.
Anakim, err Anakin Skywalker. BIG dude, special powers. Name sky walker implies descended from oh, maybe fallen angels. His special breastplate in the original film yes had Hebrew letters on it. By contrast to the misappropriated culture Anakin had, WE have a breastplate of righteousness, Christ's righteousness. Anakin's son's name was Luke. The name Luke means "bright, white, light-giving." His and Luke's home planet is named after the city in Tunisia, Tataouine which means 'eyes' and 'water springs' in the Berber language. Right in front of us Hollywood has championed our enemies as the good guys. At least by implication. What are body snatchers if not an analogy for demonic possession?
Trump = Daniel 11 19. Biden = Daniel 11 20. Obama = Daniel 11 21. It is Revelation 17:10-11 KJV Trump=6th Biden=7th Obama=8th & of the 7 the 5th head and the 8th. I keep warning what the holy spirit said to me after I humbled my self even if it falls on deaf ears. This is not an opinion or interpretation the holy spirit said this him self after I humbled my self after what happened to my mum and dad believing as a child trusting God fully like a child does a parent and that small still voice the holy spirit answered me. Comment for the full post I cant post it 1st or YT will hide it. I need a comment to post it on so it can be seen.
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I've shared this many times with people who have a problem with Biblical genocide, like i did.
Very helpful video.
Thank you.
you should check out Chuck Missler's lectures on the Amalekites/Canaanites as well, but this makes so much sense. Just another effort of the Smithsonian to attempt to cover up the archeological truths in Scripture.
Yeah, just BS your way out of what it says like Heiser just did
"You're going to meet the very people who made you chicken out in the first place and cost you forty years in the wilderness. It must be done." I was waiting for you to say that.
David taking out Goliath makes a different kind of sense now. *head explodes*
Yes it does and also the claim that the God of the bible is a blood thirsty god is combatant against mankind is settled also, the children of Israel are killing the offspring of the fallen elohim.
I have heard that it wasn't David that killed Goliath but Elhanan
@@stylichoyou heard wrong
No he heard it right. That’s what it says in Chronicles. Very likely Elazar was his birth name and David a title or a nickname.
@@stylicho In 2 Sam 21, it sounds like there were Goliath Brothers, 4, or, 5, of them. It names different men killing different giants in different places. It says David, and his servants killed the Goliath Brothers. David killed Joe-blow Goliath, and the others were killed by his servants. They didn't use first names in the OT. Family lines were still a thing back then. It's hard to differentiate sometimes.
Dr. Mike, I wish I could take all of your biblically historical knowledge and transfer it into my brain. I get bits & pieces on here but believe there is so much more. I’m hooked !
Just heard Netanyahu reference Amalek. Sure wish you were here to discuss this Professor Heiser but I thank God for all the teachings you blessed us with.
Zionism is the greatest deception for Christians these days.
Thank you. You did an excellent job putting together what I thought 25 years ago. I found an article back then titled "The Ruthlessness of God". Basically it put together the giants with the Canaanites. I could understand the death penality due to what they were DNA wise along with their practices which really isn't much different from today's society. That article sealed my belief in God's Sovereignty and his election of his people.
Amen.
This makes sense. The problem is that a lot of (even conservative ) churches don’t believe the Genesis 6 passage refers to fallen angels mating with human women with the result being the Nephilim (giants). Anakim is associated with giants if I’m correct. My church believes the son of Seth/daughter of Cain narrative.
You're not correct. In fact, that's impossible since there's never been any such thing as post-flood Nephilim since God didn't fail and the flood wasn't much of a waste.
@@KenAmmi-ShalomGenesis 6:4 explicitly states that the Nephilim were on the earth in those days and after, the context of the proceeding verse being God decreeing mans days as 120 years before he sent the flood. That doesn't make the flood a waste, evil people were wiped out and that was the whole point. The Lord states in Genesis 8:21-23 that the intentions of man's heart is evil from his youth, so nothing has changed on the sin front, except humanity has a very dramatic example of how seriously God judges wickedness to look back at in history, so no culture is without excuse.
how about Goliath? @@KenAmmi-Shalom
@@walter1383 Correct. Just like Joshua was an imperfect type of the conquering Christ, and Job was an imperfect type of the suffering servant, and David was an imperfect type of a righteous King Christ, and the temple was an imperfect type of the heavenly court, so the flood was an imperfect type of the coming Day of the Lord who will reign judgment down upon this present evil age.
@KenAmmi-Shalom but the bible does teach that nephilim existed post flood. Read genesis 6. Can't miss it.
God wiped out civilizations with flood, fire, and armies. He is going to do it again in future. Sometimes seems harsh with my small understanding of whats going on behind the spiritual curtain...but I trust Yah.
Thank you, Dr. Heiser. I REALLY appreciate you covering this topic !
Great thumbnail. Excellent teaching!
Hey Daniel the terminator! I'm a huge Heiser fan. He opened my eyes to so much and the Bible and Jesus are so much more awesome than I had ever thought before. Unseen Realm just blew my mind, however, most of my Christian friends don't know anything this. However I've met some charismatic types that know all about the Nephilum and the 3 falls of humanity.
Love the thumbnail. God bless!
You are such a great teacher!
The true history of ourselves and God is mind blowing and awesome!
Thanks for the clarification.
I enjoy the clips that are posted here but they are usually from what seem to be classes or presentations. Is there somewhere that I can find the full classes? I've already read The Unseen Realm and am starting Reversing Hermon so I think I get what he is going for in this particular class but I always like watching an author in class because they include information they couldn't fit into their books or information they have picked up since publishing.
I especially like his take on the Canaanite conquest. It seems like most scholars and authors I know of are so busy being morally and emotionally offended that they think of nothing else but finding a way to satisfy their unrest with the conquest.
Hi Drake, by listening to Mike's weekly "Naked Bible Podcast" you get much of his newest research and thoughts. To get the full classes, you can enroll in The Awakening School of Theology, which you can attend online. awakeningschooloftheology.com/#register
Awakening school of theology is where these are from. They are paid classes for like 400 per semester. I'm starting mine soon.
Dr. Heiser is my spirit animal.
Dr. Mike, I wish you can be a part of the current famous Christian apologists out there, they leave out everything you said in this video. Please write a book about all the stuff in the Bible like slavery, supposed genocide, etc.
All this information is out there and available especially at the scholar/university level. Its really a matter of intellectual laziness or not wanting to "rock the boat" that this accurate understanding is ignored.
Your commentaries are very refreshing; especially in light of the countless instances of so called "teachers" lifting short sections of scripture out of their context and creating false doctrines.
I do have some questions which can hopefully be answered at some point in your teachings:
What became of the Anakim, etc, during the Babylonian captivity?
Are the Hattites and the Hethites different people?
Do have any teachings concerning " kindling a fire on the Sabbath? I have seen wildly divergent interpretations of this subject; even so far as to suggest that it means you can't be with your wife on the Sabbath.
I am indeed thankful that you are able to devote the time to spreading the truth. Especially to an old hard-working country boy like myself.
Thank you!
Great teaching 😃👍🏼
Man you consistently blow my mind and I like to think I know my bible, I never put these things together and was never taught this stuff for sure. Thanks Mike 👍🏻
So helpful. To realise that people were left but Anakim and Rephaim taken out!
"We smote all men, women and children..." Read Deuteronomy 2 and 3 and Joshua again.
@@samphonnetgamgee5625 But Anakim and Rephaim were people.
Why don't you get right to the point, Mike. Excellent info. Tells it like it is.
Im really wishing i signed up for the class now. :(
awesome video, grateful for the insight on such tough passages! All makes sense when read through the biblical narrative as you say, and not what "social media" is telling us. Do you have any books dedicated to this subject?
All his books are on Amazon. Reversing Hermon may cover this, if it does its only a small event in the big picture of Mt Hermon.
You can also check out Dr. Heiser's books -- Unseen Realm or its less academic counterpart, Supernatural. As Baltic Hammer states above, Reversing Hermon also covers the topic.
"They wouldn't have thought about it the way it's presented on RUclips."
I'm getting mixed signals here doc...
Lol yeah yeah 😂
Heiser is an apologist and takes the Copan diversionary approach. There are scholarly books on this topic and he just took his apologetic BS and ran with it.
@@gmac6503 Never heard of Copan, so you can correct me here, but Heiser is using anything but diversion. His whole approach is that the descendants of the Nephilim (the Anakim mostly; the giant clans) was the point of the conquest. These giant clans were the ones given the Hebrew designation "kharem" (devoted to destruction). If you read Heiser, he believed Genesis 6 was a major infiltration by rebel spiritual beings into our physical world. His view was that as awful and gruesome as the conquest was, it was necessary to ensure that the tarnishing of the human race by the 'sons of God' in Genesis 6 was put to an end.
@@tubaszuba I already know what Heiser believed and what he taught. I followed him for years and have all his materials and works.
He recommended Paul Copen and I listened to that audiobook at least four times. The name of it is _is god a moral monster?: Making sense of the Old Testament God_ and it is an excuse and diversion and that is why I called Dr. Heiser and his take on it also a diversion.
As far as the rest of your comment I already knew all that. I've read more of him than you have and I've mentioned that a few times when I comment. Maybe you haven't read that before so I'm not gonna repeat everything I have by him. Now you know. You can't tell me anything new although I'm sure I've forgotten some of his minor points but I've listened to every one of his naked Bible podcasts and I was a Patreon and I could go on and on
@@tubaszuba yeah, and like your last sentence states, to many of us, that is a diversion and a copout.
Could you make one about the Vengeance on the Midianites
The moral(e) of the story:
It's us or them: Giants need killing.
All the time. Everywhere.
Lmao what giants?
@@dustinellerbe4125
The offspring of giants populated the promised land prior to its conquering.
@@87solarsky no they did not. Humans did. These were other humans. If I say I killed unicorns, and they were actually horses, but my story I write says unicorns, does that make unicorns real? No.
@@87solarsky if they are actual giants being referred to in the stories, then we know without a doubt that we are talking about mythology
@@dustinellerbe4125
Come back when you're serious about giants.
Excellent presentation and exegesis Dr Heiser 🇬🇧
They were given the option to leave.
Remember, the Cananites sacrificed their children to Moloch.
Wow. Glad to find you.
Thank you for this. Dr. Michael Heiser is a breath of fresh air. Where is the complete video? Is it available?
There’s 2 videos. He covered this topic in two sessions. It’s in the UR102 class that I’m taking. You have to enroll in through the Awakening school of theology. None of these videos are available as individual purchase items. I wish they were also. The class is great though !!!
@@geraldawana6380 thank you for responding. I may consider signing up sometime. Very good teaching.
There a full length video to this? Would love to watch. Looks like a whole session
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Is the hill country of any relation to the high places?
Right. How often we interpret the Bible out of context.
Man I wish I could find this full video!!!
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Yet another great teaching. Can I get a witttnnesssss
Why is there never put down i the comment box links to the whole talks?
Very interesting. So these conquests were about restoring the land to the values and systems and laws that God had originally designed? Am I understanding this correctly?
Teach them diligently! Are your youth understanding this?
Thank you, this confirms my intuition, all the way back to the Watchers. Great Men are closer to God, and if they are not of your people but the enemy, then they cannot be allowed to live. Spies of Israel, Bene Elohim, Men of Renown. Is it a fair reading in your opinion to read these as Great Men, but of the enemy and so they must not remain? An answer would be appreciated. Also, I might look into the verbs used in association with these titles earlier in Genesis.
"Men of Renown" and these other superlatives could simply have very different context, than those associated with our common era? These terms may be more in the vein of saying this, that or those guys are infamous and for their outward appearance and evil deeds. These giants were abominations and threw God's natural order into chaos. I think the Watchers and Satan planned to breed out, Yeshua Christ, by polluting the human gene pool so badly, that the foretold of savior could not be born, as a pure man. It's astounding to me, that these divine beings could actually believe they could thwart God?!
@@jasonleveck8546 Once again, we do not know what the words mean in math. I commented below to a clear literal atheist that we are NOT our DNA, that is the most stable biochemical marker of cellular architecture and machinery. We are RNA->DNA->Protein. I personally think that gluttony of one form or another in utero and early development MAY have flipped on the growth allele in these clans too long, making a higher likelihood of actual physical giantism. But this ignores the Watchers as the ORIGIN of Giants in the land. And the need to kill them for teaching the secrets of Heaven: MEN can't deal with that tech without killing each other for it. I subscribe to a psyco-physical approach to reading the world we are not living in, but can imagine. This does not conflict with your take. Heiser is the language expert. Fair?
@@dsm5d723 Dr. Heiser is an expert in Hebrew. I believe the giants were part divine and part human. Angel is sort of a throwaway term. It just translates to messenger or is a job title. Angels don't have wings and I think in many ways, they are much closer to ourselves, other than being immortal. I do believe the watchers were divine beings, part of the heavenly host and that they manifested bodies for themselves and began breeding with human females.
@@jasonleveck8546 Does this address the idea of their offspring resulting in bloodshed, from Enoch? I know the real meaning, but people cannot see the physics. SOMEBODY put me over the better part of mankind. Not a paid job description in this world. If the idea, the Logos, of Innovation is a thing we can inductively arrive at, and the WORLD wants to steal it, who is shedding the blood, and who is watching, mirror neuron activating their programming, and who is not perfect in their generations? If you KNOW your generation will be a failure and insist on the need for it, you are the devil. Paul might have been milder on humanity than I, but I have no inheritance with Israel, as a Levite by disposition. And no business to carry on among the people. My portion was stolen, and I did not see the way to be too far. We are waiting for the End out of sheer laziness and cognitive miserliness. Deuteronomy 14: 23-29.
@@dsm5d723 As I understand it, Enoch delivered the news of damnation to those watchers held most responsible. That they would see their own offspring murdered and be helpless to stop it. Some very excellent scholars now are understanding that the ministry of Yeshua the Christ, was very much or directly influenced by Enoch.
As far as your question(s) about programming and or neurons and things of that nature, I don't know anything about those things. I'm ignorant of your referencing Paul, Israel and Levite, in any of this? I had it put to me, that this whole debacle is known as the Cosmic War of the Seed. Yahweh's seed VS. The Fallen's seed.
What is the second rebellion?
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Anyone here have any idea on how the nephilim re-appear after the flood?
Genetic tampering.....DNA tampering, CRISPR, attempt at making animal/human hybrids. That is my best guess. The process in making Nephilim is resurrected.
@@cathyvanasse4886 but how exactly an ancient civilization manage to do that kind of stuff?
Some plausible theories. There was a new group of rebellious angels that came down. The flood didn't wipe out every carrier of nephilim genetics, as in it was a regional flood. Someone on the ark had nephilim genetics.
My random thoughts is the flood was to wipe all the corrupted "organisms".
So why would nephilim be allowed to survive the flood? Same thinking for an ark passenger. It seems more likely another rebellion took place. By the time Joshua gets to Canaan, there are whole cities totally polluted with unclean people. But anything is possible so I'm just thinking of most likely.
A -- There's SO much interesting info on this... I LIKE Rob Skiba's explanation best because he reviews the genealogies on Ham, Shem and Japeth and how Noah curses Ham's newborn son for something that Ham did!. Now that I learned how Heiser explained that the OATH of the 200 Watchers on Mt. Hermon was an actual CURSE to bind them together in their sin... and it's related to the sexual activity and self defiling... And some of the physical characteristics borne out by the nephilim were six fingers, six toes, double rows of teeth, elongated skulls, and RED hair... Skiba's teaching on the genealogies demonstrates giants in Ham's line and some in Japeth -- that could only have come from their wives -- who must have been tainted. Shem's line was not, Jesus' genealogy comes from Shem. So, these bloodlines may have carried those markers. There are others, like L.A. Marzulli, who disagree. Joshua chased out the ANAKIM and declared the land was free of them. But Marzulli proposes these giants escaped to other lands -- like Peru. There, in Peru are graveyards FULL of elongated skulls. Anyway, check out Rob Skiba's Mt. Hermon Roswell Connection and Marzulli's On the Trail of the Nephilim. You'll be fascinated!!
@Pond3r Thiz I have been saved for over 50 years. Heiser isn't preaching to the lost, but informing the people who wish to deepen their understanding of the scripture. Why are you scolding someone for being interested? What's your business here?? To turn someone away as if they were doing something wrong for asking a question ❓. The Catholic church had the bible CHAINED UP to the podium in the dark ages!! No one was allowed to ask questions... But they WERE allowed to PURCHASE salvation!! Now that we HAVE salvation, it's nice to EXPLORE what God's word ACTUALLY says about the past -- because it will have a bearing on the future, I believe.
what class is this?
is this whole presentation online??
I believe this is just an outtake from a longer teaching.
How did they distinguish between those who should be kharem and those not to be?
Why is it that every time I fact-check Heiser, he comes up short?
(Sihon and Og were east of the Jordan river, Anak was west. And theres no mention of Anak as being as far north as Hezor. They were south of Hebron)
This is basic stuff. Not sure where Heiser is getting his info because i can't find it in my Bible.
Dr. Heiser was credentialed and experienced but not infallible, his Nephilology wasn’t biblical, and he tended to create more problems than he solved-see these articles for examples:
Review of Amy Richter and Michael Heiser on four Enochian Watcher related women in Jesus’ genealogy
Rebuttal to Dr. Michael Heiser’s “All I Want for Christmas is Another Flawed Nephilim Rebuttal”
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Those sons of Anak were sure sons of Abitch.
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Very funny. You are sharp! Your comment made me smile.
God didn't allow the Israelites to take the short way, they weren't ready to fight a strong and terrible enemy. They were slaves, and had no training in warfare. God had to get them to trust Him, Obey Him, put away their 400 years of pagan ideals gotten from the Egyptians. He showed them He would fight their battles if they obeyed Him in wiping out the Giants, etc.
Interesting comment. Thinking about it, yes I agree they had a slave mentality as they were conditioned by it. They also had Egyptian gods/beliefs embedded in them and likely would interfere with God's plans for the people later on. Refreshing to read well thought out comments on Ytube.
Joshua 11:11 and 14 clearly say that no survivors were left in the land. Everything that breathed was annihilated. I’m intrigued by your emphasis on the hill country and the descendants of Anak because I’ve never heard that before and I can see where you get that. I just don’t understand how you reconcile those verses with your final point. It seems plain to me that in those cases, Israel did completely annihilate cities. Those instances do not refer to driving anyone out.
According to jewish tradition...the requirement to sue for peace applies to the canaanites. Any canaanite city that was willing to join israelite society was accepted. It did, however demand that they renounce thsir idolatries and other practices which G-d Abhors. There were plenty of canaanites living in the land of israel after the conquest, who were, one way or another, over time integrated into israelite society.
If all else fails read the actual biblical text.
Sounds like The Red Haired Giant who lived in the "Hill Country" of Afghanistan. Who the natives gave food to...so that it wouldn't bother them....
Try telling this to the experts who got their PhD from the University of RUclips...
Most seminaries and their professors don't know or understand the topic. That is across the broad board of Christianity. The problem is made far worse when these seminarians and pastors close their ears to new evidence or better interpretation. They cling to their flawed man-made doctrines drafted by the ignorant predecessors of their denominations.
@@Baltic_Hammer6162 You only have one year of Bible in seminaries compared to three years in Bible College. Most Pastors today don't go to Bible College, let alone a good one...
@@brotherchrisrco1125 Very true unfortunately.
Because the bloodlines and blood/DNA/genesplicing and animal tampering the nephilim played at had to be eradicated and removed.
There's literally zero reliable indication of any of that. But if you provide quotations and citations I'll gladly take a look.
And yet many hate on Islam for basically doing the exact same thing.
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would you be confident saying God never waged a war that wasnt in self defense or descendants of anak. i had your view before but i cant remember if all the armies israel waged against in kings 1/2 were pure humans and/or had the Nephilim/anak gene - perhaps not full blown anaks but definitely have traceable obvious lineage
Can you please what verse i can find it?
These are other human people being killed by other humans
All of the race ending in "im" are race of giants, they have tainted seed which is God's not original creation. That's why Joshua's conquest is to drive out those beings into the land of Canaan.
Everyone I don’t like is Anakim. 😆
Only if you drive them Not out they Will be Thorns in your people and cause you to commit the Sins by worshipping gods that your fathers knew Not. The Sin of ldolatry taking their daughters to wife and giving your daughters to them to wife...
Remember, not everything that's in the Bible is historical, many of those stories are metaphors, you can ask the Rabbies and if you follow the narrative you may find the clues for your own, of course, there are many others who will tell you legends and so, but, remember never was a country called Israel before, those who became the twelve tribes were the descendants of so-called son's of Jakob or Jacob, and how big used to be his land? nobody knows, so how you will claim a territory if they don't even know where it was. many others said that's hidden teaching in these writings, of how you regain control of yourself, the fights that you have fight every day to achieve holiness and be one with the Holy.
Anakim, err Anakin Skywalker. BIG dude, special powers. Name sky walker implies descended from oh, maybe fallen angels. His special breastplate in the original film yes had Hebrew letters on it. By contrast to the misappropriated culture Anakin had, WE have a breastplate of righteousness, Christ's righteousness. Anakin's son's name was Luke. The name Luke means "bright, white, light-giving." His and Luke's home planet is named after the city in Tunisia, Tataouine which means 'eyes' and 'water springs' in the Berber language. Right in front of us Hollywood has championed our enemies as the good guys. At least by implication. What are body snatchers if not an analogy for demonic possession?
So much BS perpetrated in the name of their "god." Of course, their "god" was the right "god," so it's all okay.
It never happened. So get over it. There was no Joshua. There was no conquest.
Trump = Daniel 11 19.
Biden = Daniel 11 20.
Obama = Daniel 11 21.
It is Revelation 17:10-11 KJV Trump=6th Biden=7th Obama=8th & of the 7 the 5th head and the 8th.
I keep warning what the holy spirit said to me after I humbled my self even if it falls on deaf ears.
This is not an opinion or interpretation the holy spirit said this him self after I humbled my self after what happened to my mum and dad believing as a child trusting God fully like a child does a parent and that small still voice the holy spirit answered me.
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Prepare your ppl properly Dr.....your kingdom has fallen