RINGS OF POWER Episode 5 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Review And Lord Of The Rings Easter Eggs
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Ok so Rings Of Power Episode 5 has now dropped and throughout this video we're gonna be breaking down the plot, easter eggs and also what we think is gonna be happening on the next one. We're also gonna be going over our general thoughts on the series so make sure you stick around until the end for our review.
Now we start off with the Nori teaching language and the way of the Harfoots to The Stranger.
Really nice detail here is that he has a similar accent to them which is what he would sound like due to him learning how to talk from them.
I think it's becoming more and more clear that at the very least that he's a wizard due to the magical abilities that he demonstrates later on. I think due to Amazon keeping his identity a secret that he's likely Gandalf instead of one of the Blue Wizards who emmerged during this time. The Stranger learning about the cultures of the Harfoots could explain Gandalfs love for the Halflings later in life and due to their kindness we can see why he'd gravitate towards them. He's quite a conflicted character after realising that he's also a peril to this world and I think come the end of the season that he'll master his abilities.
Nori also brings up Cave Trolls which we've seen in live action in the Peter Jackson films.
Now I did discuss last week how I thought he might be Elronds father Earendil who too gets mentioned once more in this episode. The source material had him being a character that travelled out to Valinor and due to completing this journey he was raised up and entrusted with carrying a star across the sky. This could explain why he came crashing down in a starfall and also help to give some emotional closure to Elrond who wants to see him again.
I think it's more likely a Wizard but that's a super early Theory time for you summoffabich ass.
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Here's the twist, audience expect The Stranger to be Gandalf, no he's not. The Stranger is Saruman. Everything is good in the beginning, Saruman included. And I believe he will be one of the good guys in the series.
@@acedobleace i hope so it’ll be boring if its Gandalf, if it is Saruman maybe the cold flame implies he always had a darkside to his nature
We don't know what they have access too of Tolkiens writings. However, if he's Gandalf we can assume they don't have access to the true origins of Gandalf. Saruman, Radagast, & Gandalf were all delivered to Middle Earth by Cirdan the Shipwright. If this is so they are trying to show Gandalf in his early stages after being diminished from a Maiar. When they were first transformed into an Ishtari they were like children. They didn't know their names, how to use magic, or even language. I suspect without access they're attempting to show the progression to wizard that actually happened in Valinor.
Maybe do a quick Google about the three figures in white, because not only did you misgender the Dweller, but a producer gave us some info about these three figures awhile ago, and they have a very intriguing place of origin...
I absolutely like RoP better then the current GoT. I didn't have the same expectations(I'm a Silmarilion reader) for them. I HATED what HBO did with the original, so I don't trust them. Plus I find no likeable characters what so ever in GoT. Yes this was a filler episode that could have been better used, and been sped up. But I'm not going to let that f**k me up. I've been a Tolkien guy for 50 yrs, and no matter what that's never changing. Are they going to f**k some stuff up? Yes. Are they going to piss me off? Yes They are also going to get things right. I'm not stopping, no matter what.
The storyline with Elrond and Durin is the highlight to me. They seem to talk TO each other, rather than AT each other, like so many of the rest of the characters. The same with Nori and [Gandalf]. Their relationship is the second best.
please...there is zero highlights
@@busybee6889 tolkien purist moment
More like Nori and (Sauron).Only an evil being would selfishly ignore Nori's plea to let go of her arm just because he wants to be healed and free of the stinging burning pain!
Facts. Bc it seems like Galadriel is always talking AT people and not to people lol
Then why are on this video just to criticize?
I think the Orcs are the only group that actually care for each other.
So much arguing between everyone.
The Harfoots sing a song about stay on the path and no one gets left behind. Then what do they do? One guy gets a bum foot and they leave him behind. 😂😂 that was the best.
I know that wasn't on this episode but still can't stop laughing when I think about it.
The old Harfoot ladies scheming breaking Nori's family wheel cart . Like could they just give them some support ?
@@duongtran9995 That is the whole problem with this series, and why it's a slap in Tolkien's face.
The good people in this series are more heartless than the villains.
@@brianj3150 i think it's a legitimate angle. I think you're right, it's a deliberate slap in Tolkien's face. But I think that's a good thing. He wrote stories of irredeemable evil creatures that only deserve death (orcs). No offense, but to dream up a story like this is NOT something I would be proud of. It's cruel and a fundamentally dangerous worldview. I'm happy about that being diluted, and delighted that the orcs are given a bit of a backstory. Still not rooting for them, but I do like it.
@@helmet8925 you're the one obviously not watching the same show. Or you're smoking a TON of copium. The Harfoots are the cruelest bunch of them all. They'll just abandon their sick and injured while gaslighting everyone with their "memorial death rituals", chanting "we will WAIT for you". When WAITING FOR ANY OF THEM is literally the last thing they would ever do.
I'm not judging the show from "Tolkien" perspective. Even without the bastardization of the lore, this show is shit.
@@justmoritz lol troll
Paul, I think you're making this show better for me. Looking forward to your review more than the episode itself 😅 I appreciate the effort making something more entertaining than it actually is!
I'd love for you to keep doing videos each week. I know it's probably a lot with all the other shows going on, but you're one of the most trusted voices on RUclips for me. I like the show so far, and I am okay with it being slow. Just enjoy Middle Earth and the world of Tolkien. So many opinions out there, but so much to enjoy about it.
I’m loving the slow pace. Let us live in Tolkien’s world, let it breathe. It’s gorgeous and the plots make sense. We haven’t been in Lotr like this for 20 years, they have 5 seasons. Might as well let it build slow
Agreed 🎉
Amen! Everyone these days just wants big battles and instant gratification. Blame the marvel movies for that, everything has to be epic now.
Agreed❤
@Rohan Chatterjee so true gladriel is y
The most humble character with the best character development.
@Rohan Chatterjee I love her bubbly personality and her humor 🤍
Man the biggest villian of the show is Halbrand´s broom like WTF hahah
Lol, yes I thought the same, crappiest broom going 😂
Might as well have been sweeping with a fork....
Yea I was watching that like "I guess if your objective is to evenly spread out the muck then its doing a great job...🤨"
@@ICU1337 that broom couldn't evenly spread the dirt🤣😂🤣
Biggest villain = any scriptwriter involved
Sauron speculation is starting to feel like the movie Scream.
“EVERYONE IS A SUSPECT!”
Nah it's clearly halbrand lmao ,, everyone else is a red herring
Since they’re remixing Tolkien’s material, an idea for a great show would be Sauron’s perspective. Forget the sappy shoeless creatures, emo elves, and hapless humans. Run the show about Sauron’s rise. That, would be epic.
he's evil. Forget the sympathy for the devil crap. Keep it about the elves.
I want a series about live in Valinor. Just imagine how complicated interactions get when you live together for thousands of years without anything really happening.
@@JJ_LL this thread isn’t for you halfling…back to a shire you go, show us the meaning of haste
@@daarom3472 Nothing complicated about it. I'd like to see it too but to a restless and cruel and gossip loving people the stillness of peace is boring. For those that haven't had an easy life, the idea of peace and quiet is a great thing.
@@Blac_Ronin Go walk into traffic
Don't stop covering this show, please. Some of us are enjoying this show, and enjoying your coverage of it.
I’m actually really digging this show so I’m hoping you’ll carry on doing these weekly breakdowns - I don’t no anything about the book lore so it’s great to hear all that. Cheers- appreciate your work! :)
yea i like it as well. dont know why so many people hate it.
I’m enjoying the show too .
@@filipbrcko delusional
@@minervaverdant1380 stop lying to yourself
@@fjaramillo1133 touch grass lmao. Let people enjoy things.
- dwarves will dig for Mithril, and will encounter a Balrog
- Numenor will sink
- Giant man is Gandalf
- Sauron has been manipulating Celebrimbor all this time as Anathar, as Lord of Gifts
I actually thought this episode had the most forward plot movement of the season, like we are finally going somewhere. I mean I get the thing about the training sequence maybe being unnecessary, but the in the other story lines, we get more clues about the stranger, the orcs and Southlanders revving up for battle, and the secret of the Elves demise and how it ties into mithril revealed. Defnitely my favorite episode of the season so far, They haven't gotten to the point yet but I feel like we are finally heading toward it!
I think that the guy who won the duel will be one of the 9 men who receive a ring but adar will kill him and steal it and become the witch king.
Agree completely best episode yet.
I think the stranger is Gandalf , just not our Gandalf yet . Also , I think he hurts himself with his own magic because he doesnt have a staff.
But Gandalf doesn't or rather shouldn't exist in this time!
@@ouranos0101 why, should Galabriel be a warrior unmarried lady or should the orcs get burn like vampires or Isildur have a sister or Disa or Hartfoots or two Durins at the same time 😅. I am tired of comparing it to the lore. Maybe I have to watch it as something completely different unrelated to LOTR.
He hurts himself because he is incomplete.
You think this because Heavy Spoilers just said this!
0:34 "He's likely Gandalf"
8:00 "But the use of his magic always exacts a toll. Wether it is the fireflies dying, Largo's foot, his arm looking like it's from Reqiuem for a Dream or water turning into Ice, it all comes at a cost!"
8:16 " I feel like he will end up getting his staff which will probably allow him to properly wield it"
@@Eagle-Striker No , I think this because im watching the show.
Look at the scene which shows the stranger in the crater, looking down on him from above. Its the eye of Sauron. Plus the fire does not burn the Hobbit . In the first episode an Elf in the frosty cave notices that his flaming torch does not give heat. He is told that it is cold , because the place is in fact evil.
So someone’s probably already floated this theory someone, but are we sure that all of these stories are happening at the same point in time? I know we were originally thinking that Halbrand was Theo’s dad, but couldn’t Halbrand be adult Theo or Theo’s obnoxious friend? This would be like Westworld S1 where the Arondir and Bronwyn storyline is actually the oldest time in history, with the Galadriel and Elrond bulk of the story happening sometime afterwards, and the Harfoots/ Meteor Man plot represents the present day? This would mean that the Harfoot storyline could take place 1000 years after the Numenorians land in Middle-Earth and go to war, so Meteor Man being Gandalf would still line up.
Also this episode gave me the biggest eureka moment. I’ve read LOTR and The Hobbit but I’m not super knowledgeable on the lore so references will often go over my head. But this episode finally explained what Arwen giving away the Light of Elendil actually represents. My little nerd heart grew three times bigger when I figured out what Gal-Galad was plotting.
Canonically, Mithril doesn't hold the power that the Elves assign to it in Rings of Power; the Elves choosing to wear it as adornments and jewelry, rather than fashion arms and armor from it. Also Galadriel's ring is the only Ring of Power made of Mithril, though I suspect this may change once Celebrimbor finishes his forge tower in Eregion.
Funny how those who claim to hate the show can't stop watching.
I love the show.
I loved the scene with Durin having the fate of all of the elves in his hands. They talked as they should. I really love that Elrond said the truth and Durin's reposponse made me love this tv show. The only thing im affraid its going to fast. With Halbrand accepting his path to crown seems a bit rushed.
Give me the meat, and give it to me raw!
Going to fast !?!?!?
You must be referring to HOTD. 🤣🤣
We have 4 more seasons to go so not too fast
when you called Galadriel a Karen LOOOOL 😅😂😂
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@@NeroLeMorte thats funny 😁
You aren't letting it cook. The reviewer suffers from instant gratification syndrome. It's a 200 hour story. You want archs resolved in the first 5 hours of the show, which is 2.5% of the program.
Yeah who Sauron is really hard to point out. I think these are all misdirects and Halbrand will be Sauron because it would be the most evil and plot twisty. Halbrand manipulating Galadriel to defeat a rival, secure him a sword and potentially weakening his enemies.
Problem with balrog showing up now in Khazadum is it way to early in timeline but whatever. They could make it the one from the legend which I think is the service of that being the birth of mithril.
Now I see probably the angle Sauron will work to get them to preserve themselves in middle-earth with making the rings to Preserve themselves.
I disagree Isil saving Pharazons son and covering for him even though he was obviously committing a huge crime. Now he has a chance to go to middle-earth to earn his strips.
Or probably Sauron will be revived with that blade by sacraficing human.
My prediction is that we havent even seen Sauron yet 🤷🏽♂ I think people are getting to focused on the wrong things. Trying to look for the hidden angle that doesnt exist. I think we have enough of a mystery with the unknown wizard.
Sauron is probably over in elf land working behind the scenes to make the rings that this show is SUPPOSED to be based on but we still havent been introduced to him yet. I think he if we see him at all this season, it'll be at the very end, otherwise not until S2.
im of the idea we did not see Sauron as of yet, Halbrand is just Halbrand, a piece of shit cowardly human who tries to justify his bad action with good intentions, seen many like that, the "stranger" and "eminem" characters are either both 2 istari that the Valar sent to middle earth in this time, im kinda 100% that the stranger is one, still unsure about eminem, he has a few possibilities.
@@weedhigh2564 This could be as well. It would be nice to have it revealed In the last episode Sauron and him kill Adar or something sinister to set the tone for this "epic" villain. He has to be epic or it will just feel flat IMO.
We actually see Turin and Glaurung (yes, it wasn’t a T-Rex)with the sword statue. My guess is that Adar is definitely related to Eöl, if not him, the sword being Anglachel.
That was one of the higher points in the show for me.
Eöl is not mentioned in the appendices of lotr or anywhere in lotr trilogy book. So they cannot use that character.
@@Vanlost they can hint to it without mentioning his name or lore
Eol is in the Silmarillion and I don't think he is mentioned in the appendices. I am not even sure if they wouldn't risk a legal dispute by making an Eol in disguise (especially with the sword and all). But didn't Eol get killed in Gondolin in the Silmarillion? My memory may fail me.
When I first saw Adar, I immediately thought of Eöl and Maeglin. He's not either of them as they both died, but I think they based Adar on them, who knows 🤷
Does anyone else feel like after watching this episode things are really ramping up a gear? I really loved Poppy's song too. Made me all emotional 🌿 "not all those who wander, or wonder are lost" .
🤣🤣🤣
seriously you people man. are you a bunch of children or adults
@@akashicrecords9672 yes...yes that's how age works
@@akashicrecords9672 oh God I just re read this and I must've out of it. Thoughy it said you are either a bunch of children or adults. Not "are you a bunch of children or adults" Jesus I need more sleep
I gotta respectfully disagree with you..! I quite like the slower pace and a lot of the things you disliked, I rather enjoyed. Showing Galadriel entirely consumed by her hatred and the war is setting the foundation of who she'll develop into. With so many series rushing through the story they want to tell, I enjoy the slower pace. It does, however, have the pace of a season with far more episodes, and I can imagine us getting to the end of the season with a lot more left for season 2.
I do agree that it is unfortunate that it airs next to House of the Dragon, considering that it compares poorly to that show...!
YOU are the target audience, congratulations. lol
The part where Galadriel throws a torch down the pit, and then pans to the fourth wall, exclaiming, "Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes?!" Such an epic scene could not have been better written by Tolkien himself!
Almost as good as that one scene when Arondir is hunting that Orc leader, comes up on him, and then gets out flanked by an orc pleb and goes "Clever girl..." before getting snatched.
Now that was good screenwriting!
The cope is so hard with you people, its hilarious.
@@Art--Deco wdym?
🤣🤣🤣
No it’s absolute shit writing cheesy and amateurish like this whole debacle of a show
I think you should still do a breakdown of the next episode! The trailer looks like it could be full of action! 👌
In fairness we know Galadriel is obsessed, it's like the start of her story, and even if it weren't telegraphed by the show we see her going of go "dark mode" in the movies for a moment which kinda suggests she's got some demons. As for the idea that some of the training scene was unnecessary: If the show's going to be on for several seasons and half of it has been invented because the books they have rights to are thin on infor, they need to keep this going by adding detail to the characters stories, otherwise it'd be just an assortment of clips, and montages.
In the song, Poppy sings "not all those who wonder or wander are lost". This basically confirms that Gandalf is The Stranger. Since Gandalf says the same quote to Frodo, it's got to be a hint to Gandalf.
Not all those who wonder are lost is an exact quote from the song that refers to Aragorm
no, because its from a song Bilbo created
No 😂
@Vandole At this point in time IF he is a wizard I think it's more likely to be Radagast.
All the magic so far tends to be related to Wildlife and the natural world.
At this point in time I'm thinking a Balrog over the Wizards though
She's always asking to see the manager! Very good.
I think they only built numenor to be the next version of the shire tourist attraction
it really looks like it.
I hope you do a video for all the episodes. I like to watch what you have to say on all the details. Anywho, I do like the series so far. I agree they are dragging out some things, but I still find it an enjoyable way to spend an hour.
No idea why people are giving this show bad reviews, so awesome
Shaggy: "Sauron where are you!?"
Sauron: "shhhh....,,"
Music starting.....
Sauron Dooby Doo, where are you?
We got some work to do now
Sauron Dooby Doo, where are you?
We need some appearing from you now
Come on Sauron Doo, I see you
Pretending you got a sliver
But you're not fooling me, 'cause I can see
The way you shake and shiver
I really like this series but I wanted to share it with my kids and it’s just a little to slow paced to keep there interest. I hope one of the fan editors gets their hands on this and cuts the whole serious down to a 3 hour faster moving/paced movie I can watch with the family. It’s beautiful and could be something special it just feels like it’s dragging on in some areas. Love your breakdowns tho I hope you keep doing them!
I mean, sure the training bit was unnecessary, but isn't the WHOLE POINT of a show like this to spend more time in Middle Earth and the peoples of Middle Earth? I really don't get all the hatred for this show... but whatever, I'm fuckin' loving every minute of it, even though yes, sometimes it's a bit filler-ish (like every other TV show).
We really like it. Going “slow” is fine with us. I wasn’t going bring up short attention spans, but since you did, yeah. I think that’s a real problem these days. Everyone wants non stop action at the expense of character development. This show is going for five seasons. If they do everything in the next three episodes, what’s left.
did anybody else think at the end of the episode...I dont think those boats are going to fit under those arches?
Yes. Next episode is going to be a lot of meetings between numenorians debating on whether or not to lower the masts or raise the bridge. The epsiode after that will be about finding the right contractor, and the finale will be all about the construction.
@@justmoritz 😭😭😭
@@helmet8925 Yep - Hate watching tv shows has become a money-making business for some people. Can't wait for that cottage industry to fucking die out!!
No but I was thinking - Why aren't there FIFTY of them, so it was more impressive!
Gosh, how do you get such a great overview and review together - and a very funny one -- in such a short time? Yes, the heavy duty critics drive me nuts, too; often complaining that they didn't source from the canon in the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales. Right, but Amazon didn't have rights to these texts. Peter Jackson, in comparison, was spoiled by an epic story and the dialogue of a literature professor. That being said, there's lots to grumble about -- like the flammable Nazgul and racist Elrond in Fellowship. But I've decided to be a glass half full person, especially after seeing Ralph Bakshi's LOTR as a kid (over 40 years ago) and finding it the biggest text to screen let-down in history. I'm content to cope with the pacing because, Hell, imagine trying to turn The Silmarillion into a television series? So much of Tolkien's work is like the Bible: details of events, battles, genealogies, etc. and no real narrative arc or character development (as opposed to The Hobbit and LOTR, which he created as literature, not pre-history).
Hes paid by Amazon and gets to see the episode before its released is how. Why do you think the name of this video is exactly the same as about 10 others, word for word, and are the first search results?
Heavy spoilers, Think theory, ScreenCrush, and about 10 other channels have exact same title and almost exact same thumbnail. All Amazon shills.
@@vict0ree give me a cup of whatever you are drinking, God knows I need some fantasies to leave my thinking brain in lol
Fire & Blood is more details of events and not really a narrative. Yet House of the Dragon is a great adaptation of that book 🤷🏾♂️ so it can be done. Rings of Power is kinda slow with the pacing tbh. I feel it's building to something awesome but goodness the journey there isn't all that captivating tbh
To be fair, the Argonath was built at the border of the Numenorian territories facing outward, warning adversaries to they are about to enter a powerful kingdom. It was meant to look awe inspiring and menacing. Earendil's statue seems to be more of a loving tribute toward their founder.
For me Rings of Power is the best show to watch at the moment. Also watching House of the Dragon and She-Hulk, but they are not as engaging as this one. I especially like Galadriel and Durin as characters. Cant wait to see how they explain the change in Galadriels personality from the one we know in the movies.
It’s a shame that you are considering not covering the show until the end of the season. I love watching your reviews and honestly enjoy the slow pace of the show.
Have Nerd of the Rings as a good backup review
@@thaddeusjackson9337 I’ll check them out thank you!
Agreed. I do hope he continues the reviews it is helping me a lot since I don't know all the intricacies of the 2nd age. But I am enjoying the show but this last episode (5) was a bit too slow IMO..
Hi Paul! So I definitely watch all of your or most of your reviews and enjoy them. I am a subscriber and I like all your videos :-) that being said I will tell you that I do like rings of power. While I enjoy House of the Dragon, rings of power is cool because it returns to something that we have been familiar with over the last 10 or 15 years.( at least cinematically) I know they have made up some characters here and there but even still I like the further exploration of things like Mithril… and seeing for the first time in some sort of a live action format the explanation and further development of the sil marills with that being said, this last episode I agree with you that it did not seem to move the story along and to your point they only have so many episodes and they’re very expensive to make so don’t pull a Kenobi and waste time. I do enjoy both house of dragon and this show for different reasons, And hope they continue to make this show into another season. I don’t think the Galadriel has changed because she has not had challenges upon her character to do so but we shall see as she goes back to middle earth. That is my “Theory time Theory time Theory time…”
I’m enjoying the show. I like the slow build up and all the character and story development. It’s going to be 5 seasons so there is no rush. Can’t wait for a big battle but I really like the show and couldn’t care less about the bad reviews and trolling. Keep up the good work and cover the show.
STOP LYING. ITS SO BORING YOU´VE BECOME DELUSIONAL CLOWN
don't worry it'll get good in season 3 lol 😆
To be fair, expecting galadriel or any old elf to have a bunch of character development in 5 episode isn't really reasonable. They've had thousands of years to develop their personalities. They've already experienced loss, war, love, etc... why would they change for anything that happened in these episodes.
I do agree it was a little slow again...but some of the Numenor scenes I didn't mind. The training sequence was a bit of fun and I'll take some action where I can get it lol. Feel like the last 3 eps are gonna be real good.
please please do a video for each episode. I so much love your way of reviewing rings of power.
I agree with your criticism, but I’m still enjoying being back in this world. I don’t think this episode was a filler, more of a primer for the next few to lead to the finale.
Great overview as always!
Agreed, and this show doesn’t fit the traditional Male Gaze that’s why some bruhs can’t help but to complain about something as seen in this video numerous times
Great review. Love your videos covering each episode but also understand why you might not cover more till the end. I am enjoying the show myself quite a lot
the ones searching the landing sight have on what i thought at first was a shield has the same constellation the stranger is looking for
seen at around 8.10
They have hinted mostly that Halbrand could be sauron. his creaftmanship, what do you know of darkness?", "I'm sorry for your brother and all people" , i think galadriel is working everything as her enemy wished.
Yeah I think the biggest plot twist would be Halbrand as Sauron using his enemy to defeat his enemy.
He's probably the king of the dead.
Note when Galadriel says: "I think he will do his part, in time." Foreshadowing.
There is too much characterization within his "struggle," when we see him alone he acts according to his apparent ruse which would be extremely manipulative of the writers to do as Halbrand can't know we are watching. Why would he pretend to be this "reluctant king" character when it would only serve to fool us? Maybe the writers are massive assholes but I think it is largely more likely he's not Sauron.
I am starting to think these big "twists" we are anticipating aren't going to happen at all. The mystery of who the stranger is might stem entirely from the fact we don't know for sure, the show isn't in a hurry to tell, and we have to wait a week between episodes. Maybe Sauron is the stranger as the show is transparently trying to make us think. Is the show giving us obvious clues (but not explicit) letting us overthink our brains to mush, then making it the simplest answer in a reverse kind of subversion? I can't decide if that would be the biggest dick move ever or the only real possible form of twist one can achieve in an age of obsessive scrutiny.
hes the witch king imo
I highly doubt Halbrand is Sauron. If anything he becomes the Witch King, but we have to remember that Sauron showed up as Annatar not a human. Maybe the short haired dude in white at the crater is sauron. But I can't get behind Halbrand being Sauron himself
I believe Sauron has not shown up yet, unless he is playing minor characters to push events. Obviously he is tampering with the tree and other things in Lindon to force Gil-Gilad's hand to build the furnace in Eregion.
Sauron is non excisting in this show, the only reason people think Halbrand = Sauron is using sources completely from outside the show, nl what the know from reading Tolkien himself or leaked info. Unless one want to consider the ranting of Karendriel as a source.
when she yells that Sauron killed her brother, it immideately refers to outside knowledge.... the text of the Silmarillion.... but in this show Sauron is completely undefined and a character without any shape or substance.
Peter Jackson at least gave Sauron a shape and a menace by showing the Battle of the Last Allieance at the start of the LoTR. When Sauron was mentioned the audience had thechange to fall back on what and whom Sauron was. That does not happen here. The audience has no Sauron image to fall back on coming from the show, but has to fall back on Peter Jackson's work. Just a product of bad and lazy writing, which gives the impression the whole storyboard was thrown together a week before filming an episode.
@@kamion53 he has to be in it by season 1, revealed or not. There is too much ground to cover, and their leash will get shorter as time goes on, based on viewers. I suspect that if there if Sauron has shown up, he would have to be Theo. Something has to happen before he becomes Sauron "reincarnate." Of course reincarnation of Sauron is not in the literature, which is a perfect reason to make it up.
Ten straight minutes of Galadriel? Oh yeah ... what were they thinking? Have they lost their minds? Think of the story and only the story. Keep it moving. Who wants to see Galadriel?
she's not that bad. she's an interesting and unlikeable character for sure, but I have faith that her arc will be about growing as an elf and finding her peace as she mentioned, so she can become the harmonic, peaceful elf that we see in the trilogy
@@himmelektronik you have not seen what I have seen.
I can agree that nothing has happened in this series so far.
not really true tho, it's slow but things are definitely moving along. if it moved too fast people would say that they should slow down and treat the franchise with more care and elegance. i think that's exactly what they're trying to do, I think it works quite well most of the time, save from having a few overly-pretentious moments. but hey lotr had that too so what the hell
@@himmelektronik Except I’m just hoping they don’t try to rush the last few episodes and cram a lot of crucial details in at the end.
I really dont understand the hate people has on this, agree that the series might have a pacing issue that they need to figure out how balance, but Im sure that if they were going to fast people would be saying "is too fast doesnt make sense", and the same whatever direction they'd take...also I dont understand why pin the series vs HotD, almost expecting one to mirror the other, like X characther is the Rhaenyra or X characther is Deamon, I actually like how they are different from the other and we get little elements to compare on, also I like the fact that I get two fantasy set series to enjoy each week that feel different from the other, now in the real world when it comes to ratings and money for sure they'll be compared, but if you are really watching for the content and being a nerd I dont think thats an important issue. Its the first season and they have 1000s of years to cover and millions of angry fans if something goes to far off (we saw it with GoT's ending), so if the main complain is that is boring or slow pacing, I dont think it deserves to be hated that much, if anything reminds me of reading Tolkien and reading like 4 pages where nothing happened but you got a detailed description of what was around the characters, or a deep conversation, or a lesson of arda history, I've only read The Silmarilion, The Hobbit, and The Lord of the Rings but so far I dont feel they have done something that would "offend" the source material, true that the episodes are feeling kinda slow but the level of detail and places, and how everything looks also should be praised in a way. I hope the events and the story becomes more exciting towards the end, but I wouldnt blame them for even using season 1 as a very long origins act as long as the story they tell is exciting and engaging, I just hope for the best and for them to pull it off instead of ruining something that had a lot of potential.
In my experience, they're extremely negative over petty bullshit. They're literally throwing temper tantrums over FICTIONAL characters being black. I'll never understand these morons. They love and praise HotD but that's doing the exact SAME thing as Rings of Power so I can't even understand their whining. It's amusing to me though and I don't take gatekeepers seriously as people. They're like petulant children.
I love the book (The Silmarillion) and read it again recently. The series is something completely different and justifies $pending (?) per episode to please the streaming subscribers who are allegedly unable to read thick books. It’s mindless entertainment but still superior to the HBO GoT prequel which pays for GRR Martin’s bar tab.
To each their own. I find HotD far better in terms of story than RoP. It's more engaging and better written. RoP is all fluff with absolutely no substance. It's not even about the fact that they butchered Tolkien's legendarium anymore, it's just objectively badly written TV at this point. ...where writers sprinkled in some proper nouns from Tolkien's world, added modern politics, and expected everyone to like it because they spent a stupid amount of money producing it. At least with HotD, Martin is still alive and could have a say in how his story is adapted to screen. Tolkien isn't, and that to me is the saddest part, launching this series on the day of his death was in poor taste to say it politely.
When Galadriel said “My wife used to fart in her sleep. One night, her fart was so loud it woke the dog up. She woke up and said, ‘Was that you?’ I said, ‘Yeah.’ I didn’t have the heart to tell her.” literal chills...
I agree with it's a bit slow. I hope that they'll pick up the pace the next episode bec I would still want to watch your spoiler alert video!
it wont pick up. it wont improve. This show is the epitome of an abusive relationship. Always telling you theyll do better when they constantly make the same mistakes, slapping you about and shitting all over your hopes and dreams. It's getting worse and they'll either need to stop this season because of how poorly scripted and filmed it is, or, just upload it all, put off the show for a year/2 and re-work the entirety of it.
I was so bored watching this episode I feel nearly feel a sleep a few times but kept remembering the show the show costing over a billion and Slim Shady Malfoy Saruman 🥱😴🤯😱
So nice of the numinoreans to have an extra set of elven armor on hand for Galadriel at the end!!!
yeah an exact replica for her body. Or they made it right on spot.
There is a big difference in hbo shows and Amazon shows
The patterns on Adar's armour are actually all over the place in the show, on multiple characters from different cultures. "They must have bought a lot of this material and needed to use it up. It appears everywhere they need texture but don't know what to do." Shout out to costume designer Lana Marie for pointing this out
Wouldn't that make exact sense for someone without identity, capturing folk all over, to hammer something together out of scraps?
I've only noticed it on Gil-Galad and the cloaks of the guards of Lindon. I'm thinking there's a connection between Adar and Lindon.
@@Thatlaxcannon Pharazon also had some of this pattern on
does anyone know how Galadriel got her armour back?
@@oddicocidic Yea, she twerked for the magic eye brow man and he favored her onion bags.
I don’t know why people was so anti this series. I think it’s great!
Good question
Coz they're emotionally immature gatekeeping orcs
I love the relationship between the elf and dwarf. They still are friends after he told the truth behind his visit. Galdrial has passion but lacks tact. Why should she though. She knows she is better than man and there is something out there! I didn’t know the stowaway kid was the dude that could not let go of the ring. I would like to see how Elrond and him come together later on. I want to know who the creepy alien folk on the hilltop are too and of that is Gandalf. Just like all six moves this show drags on too but it’s so good. I hope they are making their money back.
Please carry on covering the show
Please don’t stop the reviews! They are actually really helpful to understand the characters. I really enjoy the show and I think it’s better to watch as one long movie.
I was picking up all the Halbrand-is-Sauron hints this show was dropping, but after this episode I honestly don't know. Sauron might not even be anywhere at this point in the series. I think the only real problem this show has is that unlike LOTR and the Hobbit, we're not seeing things from the pov of hobbits, who are frankly the most entertaining characters Tolkien wrote. His humans and elves tend to be pretty boring. We need more wizards, dwarves, and halflings to keep things interesting. I like the stuff with the Harfoots and Durin's folk, the rest of it is only okay.
What if Sauron is there. This is a film makers medium which mean time does not always have to run concurrently. What if all the signs that The Stranger were Annatar was true? What if the writers pulled a "Witcher" and the Harfoot/Stranger plotline happened way before all others since it is one of the most isolated plotlines in the series. Then in a future episode when it is revealed what is actually going on behind Gil-Galad and Celebrimbor's secret grand plan we see The Stranger, clean and shaven, have been whispering to both of them all along. Cut to credits. End of episode.
Maybe the show has hopes of playing everything out leading up to the intro in fellowship, if that's the case then that could be why the pacing is slow. There is a lot that happens during this age in the source material.
Have you noticed how the elf kings neck collar has the same river like design as Adar
Poppy is quite the professional singer, especially considering that she's drawing a heavy wagon cross-country all the while. But I must admit that the song itself is not bad.
Halbrand doesn't whisper..why do you guys saying that? He said it out loud and Galadriel heard him say it. She's an elf, even if he whispered, she would have heard him from a few feet away.
Halbrand is Theo. Theo’s story is a flashback.
That would be nuts
theo huxtible?
I really want to like this show, but honestly, it's not very good.
It's pretty, but it's also pretty dumb.
The script is bad. The acting is suss. It's all very pantomime.
It makes House of the Dragons look super-smart, subtle.
(Like, what is Pharazon's son doing in a fishing boat in the middle of the night? How the fuck could that be explained away?)
If this has any hope of continuing for several more years, they're going to have to seriously rework it.
It needs a new showrunner, writers... they need to lose the PG-13 mindset.
Toward the end, the Numenorian armor looks decent, but way too much like Rohan armor rather than a precursor to Gondor armor.
The Eminem cultists are the worst after every scene with "Harfoots."
IDK about the armor, but the men in the armour are bumbling. Nothing like the Riders of Rohan I grew to admire when I first read the books.
the harfoots aren't that bad. it's a slower pace for sure, but it's not badly made at all
the armour is flippin garabge. It looks like paper mache. There's not texture, no real detail, it's just lazy and poorly made.
@@sloht4061 I don’t agree at all actually
@@himmelektronik Of course you dont, assuming you're either some paid off merchant, loving life advertising garbage, or someone so un-educated with film/costume design.
I understand, and partially agreed, with why you think the training section with Galadriel was pointless story-wise. But I grew up knowing that the woman who defeated the Witch-king of Angmar became a housewife. You will forgive me for savoring every scene in which Galadriel is a badass
the dialogue is trying to be epic but its so dumb and lame... i still think galadriel is hot.. its clear the next season they need to fire everyone and get new people.. esp the writers
The drawn out conversation about Elrond not breaking his oath was annoying because he made it clear that Durin did have it without actually saying it. If he didn’t have it Elrond wouldn’t of swore an oath not to tell anybody so by telling him he swore the oath it’s clear Durin does have it. 🤦
The Númenóreans had 5 ships and they lost 1 but then they only had 3?
£50million+ per episode. Where has all that money gone?
I enjoyed the fighting / training scene- it explains why the Numenorians have awe and respect for 'the elf' when she walks onto the ship
Really? You didn't find that cringe?
@@DHEspana she’s had over a thousand years to practice so I hope she’s better than people with 50 years or less to practice. Also, I thought the elves were supposed to be extra graceful, which explains all of the ridiculous stunts legalos did in the 6 movies. At least she wasn’t flying from elephant tusks and bats. Now that was cringe.
@@nottellingyou14 first of all they're not normal men they're Númenóreans. They live hundreds of years. Secondly; they were and are the strongest kingdom of men to ever have lived. More powerful in terms of their influence and fighting prowess but also literally physically massive and powerful people. An elf, especially a single elf, especially a woman elf, wouldn't have any hope of besting those men.
@@DHEspana cringe is being way too polite lol. Outright laughable is more like it.
Minor potential foreshadowing - Interesting that Gandalf's ring is Nenya, the ring of fire - when the Stranger arrives he's literally born in a ring of fire.
* narya
Please keep coming with more
I try not to laugh every episode. When u started beat boxing over the hobbit song I had to laugh 🤣
I’ve come to be “okay” if it’s Gandalf, but one of the Blue Wizards would be amazing…however, the “shock” and inability to communicate story line is getting tired.
8:08 Requiem for a Dream,. all i got to say about that is A to A
Numenor send three ships? What a joke.
To start with.
I know. Right? I'm like, "Am I supposed to like Galadriel or not?" Her perseverance is admirable, but she lacks inspiration. Hmm...
I feel like this episode made it official. This is not Tolkien`s Middle-earth.
Wow. That Requiem for a Dream reference hit hard😁😁😁
They could have used the 65 million they spent on this episode to give us three seasons of The Expanse instead. Just saying.
not enough people wanted it sadly.
Exactly!!
Goddamn this show is DRAGGING!! It's 8 episodes pick up the pace I am falling asleep. I don't care that the story does not exactly follow the Tolkien time line I've read the Silmarillion several times...this is just SLOOOOOOKOOOW AF
I wonder if Galadriel will do any sorcery stuff like she did briefly in Fellowship and more extensively in The Hobbit
No I don't think so. She will ask for the manager though. Such a karen
@@chungtsong8539 asking for the manager is the highest form of sorcery as there is no defense against it. I have seen the kings and heroes of old laid low and sulkily slither away before such power.
I kinda feel like her "sorcery" was a side effect of wearing one of the rings of power.
No this is pre teen bratty Galadriel, she hasn’t become that powerful yet itll be another 3000 years before she gets those powers
Mmm, probably not. Magic has a cost. The elves draw on their connection with Middle Earth itself to perform "magic". Each time she did use her power in the films, it weakened her. Resisting the ring took the rest of what she had in the tank. You see she needed the Light of Earendil to banish Sauron from Dol Guldur (and she gave that to Frodo!) She couldn't have done it on her own. Honestly, magic doesn't need to be used just for the sake of looking cool or using it.
For me, who only saw the movies and never read any of the books, this isn’t about where it’s all leading. It’s just about filling in the first few “chapters” of a very large story. And getting a little more taste for Tolkien stories. And I have the added bonus, of getting my fantasy/drama/action fix without wasting money adding HBO to my cable bill just to watch House of Dragon. I already have Prime membership so I don’t have to spend anymore. I will probably do exactly as I did to watch the last 2 seasons of GOT. I waited till the series was over, then signed up for HBO/Max app. Then I binged watched every episode in order and was done within a couple of weeks. Then I’d cancel the HBO/Max app and only end up paying for one month worth of access. The app is far better than adding it to my cable bill, I could pull up any movie and watch it whenever I wanted. I think the cable service is a huge ripoff, so I’m not adding anything I can’t cancel whenever I want to. 😉
House of dragon is a lot better than Rings of power though
@@DHEspana After watching just the first 4 episodes during a “free preview” weekend of HBO and Max, I agree. But to justify an extra $25 dollars a month for just one show on a weekly basis, no matter how much I love it, my bank account doesn’t. 🤗 But a new series free on something I already pay for..I can enjoy it and not beat it down too much. My budget likes ROP more. 🤗 silly checkbook!🤭
@@DHEspana not in my opinion. It has more action , but less resonance. It's hard to like the characters in house of dragons
The beatboxing is such a great DMCA dodge
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but as Elrond and Gil-Galad head to the tree to see the rot. They pass a royal guard, I assume, and on his golden cloak is the same pattern on Adar's armour. Could be a hint on his origins.
The same motif is on Gil-Galad's golden neck piece.
16:00 is not "training of the crew" it is simply just another scene thats only purpose is to show how awesome and strong Galadriel is.... this shit is getting so old
You missed the entire point of the training montage. It was to show off Gladriel (sp?). This allowed her to earn their respect, so they would follow her into battle despite having been raised to distrust elves
The blond person is actually a girl she is playing a high priestess of Sauron. Her name is Bridie Sisson.
Thanks for letting me know
@@heavyspoilers ... Should've looked at her boobs... Would've made it clearer 🤷🏾
Bridie? as in a meat filled pasty? lol
I love your reviews and breakdowns please keep doing them
it is so bad. I reminds me of the old Adam West Batman TV shows.
Irony, every scene you say was a waste of time, if cut, then you would say they should have shown what happened and not time skipped.
Bit presumptuous
everyone is always going on about "show, don't tell" now they're showing and people are still complaining lol
That Galadriel swordfight training scene wasn't well choreographed. It was insufferable cringe.
It was actually a lot better than I expected.
I thought it was gonna be bad and cringy, but it actually really worked for me.
It really looked like she was dancing or moving like an Airbender and was quite believable to me.
I guess it's another one of those things that will have people really divided, like the Warg.🤷🏾
I'd say it's one of the better choreographies I've seen in a while.
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@@__Oku__ I wholeheartedly agree with you, I enjoyed the scene a lot
@@__Oku__ its not divided. Everyone hates it😂
the marshes become the dead marshes only after the battle of Dagorlad, which is the Last Alliance battle with Sauron after these events are past. I would also imagine the Eminem guy is Sauron in his Annatar form, the giver of Gifts who appears as an angel of light (despite the scowl).
I said that from the first second the non-binary albino showed up in the trailer - that this was Sauron!!
I am enjoying this series with each episode and I can tell you this series tops the hobbit movies in every aspect.
couldnt disagree more. as someone who read the books, the hobbit movies were slow i.e. laketown, mirkwood, etc... ROP has accomplished literally nothing. i cant imagine they end this season without confirmation of gandalf or sauron or maybe ANY of the characters that were told to care ab. The lore couldnt be farther off too. Its fine to change lore to fit a story but to change lore for some weird soap oprah shit is annoying to me. i hope this show at least intrigues "casual" lotr fans to read the books but i just dont know who this show is made for lol