Man, I feel like a child for a Reason;) Each new device you introduce drastically changes the creative potential! No other DAW will ever make me feel like I'm stepping into a sonic playground the way Reason does! Much Love
25 minutes in with the Bass Generator and I'm like WT🤯🤯🤯! This is the player that I've been waiting for my whole life! Honestly, you had me at 'We gotta talk about bass ' 😭
Reason always have the best new devices, one of the reasons (no pun intended) I don't have a lot of VST's because nobody is making stuff as interesting and innovative as Reason Studios in my opinion. My brain instantly went towards trying this on synths as well as basslines I'm excited to try this tonight.
I am so happy that i settled on reason + ableton as my main daws, this combo is a dream come true... you guys keep pushing out the creative tools i love so much! I am only 3 minutes in and already want to fire up reason and get some music goin'.
Many congrats on this inspired release @Reason Studios and to Ryan for the superb demos! Just got it with my Reward Points so thank you also for looking out for loyal customers, much appreciated!
love it. I always go half time instead with something around 140bpm to 70bpm, this helps the effects, delays, reverb,etc to resonate and more room to work with the effects triggering.
Reason has hit it out of the park! No other music company brings together amazingly thoughtful programming, industry-leading design, user flexibility, an ecosystem of sounds to support devices, and smart and thoughtful tutorials. It’s the total package, and we are very lucky. Thank you!
Man, that’s awesome! Who ever made this plug-in did some great work for the community. This makes me want to get back into making music. Great work. Very inspiring
Using Logic + Reason (😏) together has been a revelation. My two favorite DAWs of all time can finally operate as one with the Rack plugin, and I'm amazed at all the new stuff I'm getting with the Reason+ subscription. Can't wait to give this a try!
This device really makes it hard not to be excited about what’s in store for the next rollout. I’m definitely hooked. Brilliant job! Can’t wait for the livestream.
Wow! I didn't expect this player let me change the steps manually. It means, I can quickly create the pattern and then adapt this pattern for my needs. Brilliant!
"I love the Reason community"... Yeah, y'all Props love your community, especially all the users who praise your software and devices. Please keep on ignoring those who are asking for or suggesting features since 10 years. It's such a pleasure to feel so much disrespect and ignorance from a company we've always been trusting and supporting - and which we keep trusting and supporting, by the way... even 20 years after. Please keep on showing us so much love by ignoring us all the time. Thanks a lot.
So what features do you think we have been ignoring for 10 years that you'd like to see? This would be the place to mention it so I can actually pass along your feedback to the developers. Being cynical and sarcastic is easy so I get that you go that route but for the record I actually do love the Reason community (yes, even the people with feature requests they desperately want) because I am a member of that community as a music maker and Reason user first and foremost. /ryan
You've really been killing it with the UI of all recent Reason devices. This, Algoritm, Mimic,, other recent players, they're just so smart and handy !
Happened upon this device 2 hours ago and already created perhaps the best song I have ever done. It is inspiring. Next: I need to work on getting a decent acoustic or electric non-synth bass output. Keep 'em coming Reason!
maybe, but after you have upgraded you reason 2 to 4 and 6 and 8 and 10..and after building you rack again and again they say i have to ditch it and start to pay monthly.. i say hell no!
@@joni.sirvio8867 if that's true, then yeah. But after reading from their site, I think it's going to be a alternative, not a permanent decision. But never assume.
Keeping the tempo in double time helps with the bounce of the song when creating. Also it helps with the double and triplets in the HH. Mental timing and feel.
That’s the worst possible reason to give. Real musicians who are studied would never do that or even look at it that way. Write it the way it sounds and don’t use an excuse about “feel”. No one is reading the lead sheet when they’re drunk at the garbage club listening to the worst trap music ever.
I turned the Matias Combinator sound into a bass loop relatively easily and was the first thing I did. There was nothing to complex, I just slowed the sample to 90bpm so it would fit into a 180bpm Drum and Bass beat. I used M Class EQ to give it a nice low end and then gave it a bit of Reverb and small amount of Scream distortion.
Mind blown!! The team has created a ridiculously amazing UX for this device. I can't get over how creative and intuitive this is. And then top that with Ryan's presentation magic, and you have yourself another winner RS. Can't wait to dig into this more. :)
I remember the days on reason 3 where you had to do everything by yourself, from chopping up samples in recycle that could take hours, to finding the right baseline. I was actually thinking of switching to fruity loops because of plugins. I'm glad I am loyal to Reason all those years, since it is probably one of the top music production software right now.
My entire musical DNA has had Reason at the root of it since v1. I get excited every-time you guys release something new! Between Ableton Live, Reason+ and VCV Rack, I have everything I really need....and can make the things I don't within them. Keep doing what you do! Every-time a video starts with Ryan, I know we're about to hear about something new and amazing! Also my best guess is Trap is written at a higher tempo to make it easier to program interesting hihat patterns. The individual subdivisions being faster allow for fast hi hat fills, while the rest of the elements are at half-time. 16th not hihat rolls have less energy at 70bpm.
Buying succeeded . And thank you for this creativity. We only need the development of Reson in order to run midi-loops and audio-loops at the speed of the project
Just love this new addition to the reason home. Been a lifelong user of reason from the very start and have just recently opted for the subscription, why I didn't earlier I don't know. But yey fun fun fun until the sun comes back up:)
a 70bpm pulse may be a bit tricker to keep up with bc it’s too slow. as odd as it sounds, imagine playing 8th notes for a 70 bpm track, or 1/4 notes on a 140. this is just my view though others may differ. great video!
Composing trap in double tempo makes it easier to program "ratchets" On the added note, how would this work for finding proper basslines for more specific genres - ie. Bossa Nova or Pop/Rock How about tieing the sequencer to a scale?
To tie it to a scale you can just put a scales and chords below it and set your scale that way (probably turning off the chords part but it is up to you)
@Professor T-Rex maybe crossed wires here as I mentioned that as I thought the original poster was asking how to do this. I agree it could and should be in the player device and personally I would also like it to have the option of less than 16 steps. Mattias at rs has mentioned they may update it so possibly they could add this later (if they do revisit it)
Does anyone know how I can have Bassline Generator automatically play more than one pattern? I definitely don't want or need to manually click back and forth between patterns with the mouse (how this video demonstrates at 16:08). I'm running the Reason Rack Plugin inside of Ableton Live 11.
Lets be honest, Reason Studios in the last 12 months have ben smashing out incredible devices, and with the added presentation of these videos its hard not to get excited or consider heading back to RS if you've recently given up on them. But I must remember why I have to leave in the first place....I'll have admit though they nearly got me back with this one.....
Nice tool. Small question. How can we make the output legato, so there is no space between notes (aka note latch)? Could be useful for Sub bass, for genres like DnB.
Re: 140 vs 70 bpm. It’s easier to work in 16th subdivisions vs 32nds and some tools don’t support it. It’s similar to Drum n Bass two step at 174 - most beat detectors will say it’s 87 bpm. That’s my thinking anyways.
Nice new player, was hoping for some workflow updates like: Remote items for the browser, sequencer etc. Cue/Loop points for fast navigation in the sequencer. Sequencer foldable group tracks for better organisation. Toggle show/hide empty tracks and prefs option to auto-create tracks for all rack devices for faster remote control of devices. Tie this in with browser meta data for more advance search filters and I'm sure it'll be making many reason users happy.
Nearly all answers by day 2 about why trap is 140 BPM have been fundamentally wrong. A drummer could easily answer this question. Trap, Dubstep, etc. have a "half time" feel. As opposed to "common time" or "double time". For example, Mid-Tempo Bass (e.g., Rezz, Blanke, 1788-L, etc.) is in "common time" feel in the 80-110 BPM range. DnB is in "common time" feel in the 176-ish BPM range. Rockabilly is in "double time" feel. All of these three descriptors refer to the FEEL of the main downbeat (kick) and backbeat (snare) pulse against the high-hat pulse (which, in some styles of EDM, is replaced by the mid-bass pulse). For example, in Funk and Disco music, the basic high-hat beat pattern grid is 16th notes (with occasional faster fills), with emphasis on syncopation in the 16th note pattern, against a common time downbeat/backbeat pattern on the kick and snare (although usually also with some syncopation on the kick itself). Contrast this with the steady 8th note pulse of high-hat patterns for most rock music, against the common time downbeat/backbeat pattern of the kick and snare. So, it's a FEEL thing. Half time feel creates a slow, dragging push-pull conflict between the main down/backbeat pulse of the kick/snare against the hi-hat pulse of the beat. It's NOT that earlier drum machines and DAW sequencer grids, etc didn't have enough resolution. They clearly did! It's that a lot of producers don't understand how drummers think about rhythms like this. Here are a few simple examples. Think about any rock song. You count the hats as 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and (8th note pulse) against the 1 and 3 downbeat of the kick, and the 2 and 4 backbeat of the snare. A drummer would therefore think of rock as having a "common time 8th note pattern". Now think about any funk or disco song. The "dance music" genres before there was electronic dance music of any real sort, lol. You count the hats as 1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a (16th note pulse) against the 1 and 3 downbeat of the kick, and the 2 and 4 backbeat of the snare. A drummer would therefore think of funk/disco has having a "common time 16th note pattern". In rockabilly, you use 8th note rock hi-hat patterns, but you speed up the kick and snare down/back beats twice as fast. A "double time 8th note pattern". Which gives rockabilly its characteristic manic "feel". Now let's compare dubstep to mid-tempo bass. (Listen to Rezz if you don't know what mid-tempo bass sounds like.) Same types of mid-bass sounds, lots of similarities to each other in terms of sound design, and in the big "arena style" kicks used in both genres. But what makes dubstep _fundamentally_ different from mid-tempo bass is the half-time kick/snare against 16th note feel of dubstep bass patterns, versus the common time kick/snare against 8th note mid tempo bass patterns. (Neither of these two genres rely much on hi-hat patterns in the drops... the beat grid is implied by the mid-bass patterns in the drops.) If you really think about dubstep versus mid-tempo, you'll notice that dubstep has this characteristic push-pull FEEL caused by the slow kick/snare against an otherwise busy 16th-note pulse that the mid-tempo bass pattern is typically using. By contrast, mid-tempo bass FEELS a LOT more like a "rock song". You can even hear this reflected in how Rezz often uses rock-ish guitar sounds for the chord progressions in her songs. Mid-tempo bass is very much a 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and feel, with "steady note" 8th-note bass patterns. Which is characteristic of rock music. Now for the mind-blowing part: Dubstep is typically in the 140 to 150 BPM range, right? And Mid-Tempo is typically in the 80-100 BPM range (sometimes ranging up to 110). On ONE level, mid-tempo feels FASTER than dubstep, but on a 2ND level, mid-tempo feels SLOWER than dubstep. Puzzle that out! Okay, here is why... Dubstep generally feels "frenetic" and "spastic", but a characteristic of Mid-Tempo is that it overall feels "trippy". Here's what's happening. When your brain focuses on the downbeat and backbeat of the song (the kick/snare), dubstep feels slower than mid-tempo. Because that half time feel of the kick/snare alone is at 70 BPM despite all the mid-bass lines being at 140 BPM on a 16th note grid. But the common time feel of a Mid-Tempo song's kick and snare is at 80-100 BPM. But! When your brain focuses on the basses in the song, Dubstep feels really fast and frenetic! Because the basses are running fast 140 BPM 16th note patterns! (With lots of triplet 8th and triplet 16th patterns tossed into the mix too!) By contrast, Midtempo feels really slow and trippy because the basses are running slow, mechanical 80-100 BPM 8th note patterns! TL;DR - Bass players and drummers since forever have known that the "feel" of a song relies on the _interplay_ between the bass and the drums. And you can extend this to the interplay between the kick and the hats. By mixing/matching a slower, trippy/thoughtful/moody 8th note bass line (and hats) OR faster, bouncy, frenetic 16th note bass lines (and hats) against either half time, common time, or double time kick/snare patterns, you create the fundamental, characteristic feels of every popular music genre under the sun. Fun fact: I was a performing bass player for 9 years, followed by 6 years performing on drums. Rock, funk, jazz, and even more than a few "world" genres. That's why this is all second nature to me and I can explain it this way.
YES another pattern generator. I love it for my hardware synths! I'm certainly using this for bass and NON-Bass :) Cant wait for what's next? an FX extension that competes with the microcosm hologram? *wink wink
Back in the day, 140 BPM would give you faster drum fills/hats using the "note repeat" function of samplers/drum machines, even though the main elements driving the beat were half that BPM. So things just kinda stayed that way🤷🏽♂️. It was just a way to get faster stuttering notes for fills over a slower beat. Worked for trap, and dnb, and other genres as well.
Exactly. Limitation of earlier technology, now kept out of tradition. I think for DAW users, we've kind of just accepted this gut feeling that some of these 140+ bpm genres like Trap or Dubstep just have a "half time" feel. I also believe it's just easier to keep tempo internally at faster speeds. Ask a drummer to keep 60 BPM and they might struggle, but ask them to play 120 and they'll probably do a lot better (even though the reality is that they're really essentially just counting 60 BPM in 8th notes). It's just a weird psychological thing.
I've played around with using this as a "melodic hook" generator by playing synths in ranges higher than bass and by using this as a "percussion generator" by playing drum machines with it. So yeah, the beauty of Players is that they can be used in ways other than their label might suggest. /ryan
It has CV outputs for both note and gate and also for when tied notes occur and for accented notes. These can be used to do all kinds of cool stuff! And you can of course put any instrument device underneath it. And dropping in a scales and chords below it will give you an automatically generated chord progression :)
Am really pleased to see this device in the reward store! This is good news for those who have built up reward points in the RS shop. Would be nice to see Reason upgrade and Reason+ annual subscription in the reward store too.
@@drwalka10 when you buy software, you expect it to work. This is not crying. This is someone expecting the software to operate like it should. So maybe it is you that cries whenever some criticizes your precious reason. Boo hoo. This guy wants his $500+ software to work. Boo hoo.
HOW DO I GET LOGIC TO CAPTURE THE MIDI COMING OUT OF THE BASSLINE GEN? CANT SEEM TO FIGURE IT OUT WITHOUT A MIDI CONTROLLER. NEW TO ALL THIS... PLEASE HELP! JUST WANT WHATS COMING OUT OF THE PLUGIN TO RECORD THE MIDI IN MY TRACK WITHOUT MANUALLY USING KEYBOARD...
Thanks for a great video. Can you export as MIDI to your DAW? - could be nice to see the the key of the notes and getting minor, is that by turning Minorness on? And how will you most efficiently set the bass to a e.g. 4 chord progression and get it into you Track?
I only have an RSS feeder-plugin to catch Ryan's/Reason's fresh videos. Anytime i see this litte number, telling me to prepare for a coffee, some decent information, sounds and graphics, my eyes start to twinkle ;) There are a lot of players out there, but i must admit, Andy seems to always hit the right eyecandy-spot! Bravo! For me as a non subscriber, it hurts a little bit to pay 1/4-1/2 of an entire Reason update fot a player, but this might just be subjective due to the holes in my vallet ;-) Lately a new point came on my wishlist. It would be really nice to have an option/tick mark to force every new created "Chords and Scales" player to appear in the same key+settings as the first created in the current project. i'm too often too lazy to scroll wayyy up to catch the player with control+shift , copying it wayyyy down to the desired instrument. This often ends in creating a new player from the browser, scrolling wayyyy up because i mostly forgot in wich key i am working/playing 😹 Keep up the good Work!
Anyone know where I can find a midi parameter/implementation chart for bassline generator? I'm trying to program some patch changes in reason via external controllers. Running as a vst into reaper.
When making Trap on FL Studio, if your making the drum beat and your not sampling the hats it's more or less impossible at 70BPM to get rolling hats so its made at 140 so you can make the rolling treble. If your sample the hats it can be made at 70BPM or 140 it doesn't make a difference. I am new to reason studio And I'm still tring to get use to the drum machines. I'm struggling to do the rolling treble so I'm exporting audio files that iv made on FL Studio I don't know if the 140BPM thing stems from FL users or if you have the same problem on every DAW.
A question: Can I record or export just the midi notes so I can use the Generator's MIDI as my starting point, and change the MIDI to better suit my purposes in the Sequencer?
Bassline Generator can be used inside the Reason Rack Plugin which runs as a VST. The easiest way to get started these days is a Reason+ subscription, which gets you access to all the devices (including Bassline Generator) and Reason (DAW + Rack plugin), for just 19.99 a month.
The reason Trap Artist use "double time" tempo is usually for the sake of having more granular control over hi hats (though, this requires the snare drum to then be placed on the 3 and 7 instead of 2 and 4). Because remember- In double time, 2 bars in your DAW now =1 bar.
Switched from Ableton to Studio One because of ATOM SQ integration (the best across DAWs), but Reason is where creativity comes. Been using FL+Reason 10 years ago. Now it's time to bring Reason back :-)
Great video with great teaching! Thank you! Don't have Reason, but can anyone recommend something for either Machine or Ableton that is this simple? Basslines are a bit tough for me to suss out
You can use Bassline Generator in Ableton and Maschine with the Reason Rack Plugin VST! The plugin comes with a Reason+ subscription, or purchase of Reason 12.
So is Bassline Generator a good substitute for Matrix, given you could override notes manually? It has a nicer interface but maybe I’ve missed something Matrix can do that Bassline Generator cannot?
This is the reason I just bought into Reason 😎 Love it! (up till now yep I pretty much sucked at bass lines -- now I might stand a fighting change however) I would love to see a way to externally control the X/Y matrix in real-time via some hardware/surface plus the ability to use program changes (or some other MIDI CC) to flip between those 8 "presets" on demand. Both to be able to explore those rhythms combinations without being attached to a mouse as well as to be able to tweak in performance mode (dicey but interesting!)
Imagine what would happen if they can put the same amount of work, time, energy and love for the Reason DAW to improve as they did with this bassline generator. Must say I'm impressed
I am watching your video over and over again (together with the Big Bass Battle) .. so very inspiring. Just a question. which female vocal samples are you using around 7:56 in the video (i.e. from which album or sound pack)?
Please can props make every MIDI output available to send MIDI clock out ?????? for so many years you can only send one MIDI output port MIDI clock..??? why..?? Every other DAW I have you can send MIDI clock out to all outputs, why does Reason only allow one port to send MIDI clock out in preferences..????
this video like 3 years old.. love it.. Now I am no musician. Or even know music theory. But can you make this music with reason? and this bass magician " bassline genereator"..is it included in Reason? or is it something I have to buy extra? I agree.. the good bass makes the whole song so much better. Sorry for asking.. But I want to start making music again. like I am close to 60.. this sound makes me remember those days my knees were in good shape. Love it
Answer to your question about trap bpm....HI HATS....in my experience its way easier for everything in the rack to translate what u want to do with the hats n quantization n all is way easier at the higher bpm like 140 then doing it cut in half at 70bpm, i always use to try 70 or 60 n learned hard way it works better on hi end🤷🏻♂️
Man, I feel like a child for a Reason;) Each new device you introduce drastically changes the creative potential! No other DAW will ever make me feel like I'm stepping into a sonic playground the way Reason does! Much Love
Wow, that warms our hearts. Thank you!
hahahaa man its just ok. and im a master producer whos mastered reason along time ago. and its just ok.
@@Legaceybeats Thanks for telling us, otherwise no one would know
💯😎🥃
I feel the same
I love Reason Studios! I pray God bless you all with longevity. Best DAW to me.
25 minutes in with the Bass Generator and I'm like WT🤯🤯🤯! This is the player that I've been waiting for my whole life! Honestly, you had me at 'We gotta talk about bass ' 😭
Reason user for years. Moved to Ableton for the work flow and now use reason as a plugin. Best of both worlds!!
Reason always have the best new devices, one of the reasons (no pun intended) I don't have a lot of VST's because nobody is making stuff as interesting and innovative as Reason Studios in my opinion.
My brain instantly went towards trying this on synths as well as basslines I'm excited to try this tonight.
I am so happy that i settled on reason + ableton as my main daws, this combo is a dream come true... you guys keep pushing out the creative tools i love so much! I am only 3 minutes in and already want to fire up reason and get some music goin'.
THANK YOU! Hearing that our products inspire you to get music going, that's what gets us out of bed in the morning!
Wow.. RoboticBean and Reason come together to make more Magic. Bravo. I can't stop playing with it.
Many congrats on this inspired release @Reason Studios and to Ryan for the superb demos! Just got it with my Reward Points so thank you also for looking out for loyal customers, much appreciated!
Guys, i want to thank you for every step forward for this daw. It's amazing.
The creative potential is greater every day!
love it. I always go half time instead with something around 140bpm to 70bpm, this helps the effects, delays, reverb,etc to resonate and more room to work with the effects triggering.
Im a Reason user since V3... Just discovered this beautiful gem... Logic Pro + Reason Studios 12 is a killer combo man
Reason has hit it out of the park! No other music company brings together amazingly thoughtful programming, industry-leading design, user flexibility, an ecosystem of sounds to support devices, and smart and thoughtful tutorials. It’s the total package, and we are very lucky. Thank you!
THANK YOU
Man, that’s awesome! Who ever made this plug-in did some great work for the community. This makes me want to get back into making music. Great work. Very inspiring
Thank you! I will pass this onto the product team behind Bassline Generator.
Using Logic + Reason (😏) together has been a revelation. My two favorite DAWs of all time can finally operate as one with the Rack plugin, and I'm amazed at all the new stuff I'm getting with the Reason+ subscription. Can't wait to give this a try!
Thank you for those kind words.
This device really makes it hard not to be excited about what’s in store for the next rollout. I’m definitely hooked. Brilliant job! Can’t wait for the livestream.
Wow! I didn't expect this player let me change the steps manually. It means, I can quickly create the pattern and then adapt this pattern for my needs. Brilliant!
"I love the Reason community"... Yeah, y'all Props love your community, especially all the users who praise your software and devices. Please keep on ignoring those who are asking for or suggesting features since 10 years. It's such a pleasure to feel so much disrespect and ignorance from a company we've always been trusting and supporting - and which we keep trusting and supporting, by the way... even 20 years after. Please keep on showing us so much love by ignoring us all the time. Thanks a lot.
So what features do you think we have been ignoring for 10 years that you'd like to see? This would be the place to mention it so I can actually pass along your feedback to the developers. Being cynical and sarcastic is easy so I get that you go that route but for the record I actually do love the Reason community (yes, even the people with feature requests they desperately want) because I am a member of that community as a music maker and Reason user first and foremost. /ryan
You've really been killing it with the UI of all recent Reason devices. This, Algoritm, Mimic,, other recent players, they're just so smart and handy !
This is totally awesome. Perfect addition and again excellent explanation. Many reasons to love Reason
The quality of the video and basslines is outstanding!
Happened upon this device 2 hours ago and already created perhaps the best song I have ever done. It is inspiring. Next: I need to work on getting a decent acoustic or electric non-synth bass output. Keep 'em coming Reason!
This is the coolest idea, seriously did not think this would be something I needed until I watched it and I'm totally excited about it now.
Thank you for those kind words. That's what we want to do - inspire and excite you to make music - so we're happy!
Best DAW ever made. I'd say for the price and overall experience. It's beyond worth it.
maybe, but after you have upgraded you reason 2 to 4 and 6 and 8 and 10..and after building you rack again and again they say i have to ditch it and start to pay monthly.. i say hell no!
@@joni.sirvio8867 if that's true, then yeah. But after reading from their site, I think it's going to be a alternative, not a permanent decision. But never assume.
Wow this is just what I need 💪🏼😎💯💯 Reason gang
Keeping the tempo in double time helps with the bounce of the song when creating. Also it helps with the double and triplets in the HH. Mental timing and feel.
That’s the worst possible reason to give. Real musicians who are studied would never do that or even look at it that way. Write it the way it sounds and don’t use an excuse about “feel”. No one is reading the lead sheet when they’re drunk at the garbage club listening to the worst trap music ever.
I see this as a fantastic new module for the rack, impressive as ever !
I turned the Matias Combinator sound into a bass loop relatively easily and was the first thing I did. There was nothing to complex, I just slowed the sample to 90bpm so it would fit into a 180bpm Drum and Bass beat. I used M Class EQ to give it a nice low end and then gave it a bit of Reverb and small amount of Scream distortion.
Mind blown!! The team has created a ridiculously amazing UX for this device. I can't get over how creative and intuitive this is. And then top that with Ryan's presentation magic, and you have yourself another winner RS. Can't wait to dig into this more. :)
This warms our hearts! Thank you!
Absolutely🤟🏾🐬🤟🏾
Wow :) you got me working, working day and night with that 1st funky bassline
So the minorness slider goes from major key, to mixolydian at 1, dorian at 2, natural minor at 3, and phrygian at 4?
Exactly. If you want to think of it modally, that's what is happening. /ryan
I remember the days on reason 3 where you had to do everything by yourself, from chopping up samples in recycle that could take hours, to finding the right baseline. I was actually thinking of switching to fruity loops because of plugins. I'm glad I am loyal to Reason all those years, since it is probably one of the top music production software right now.
Except I use the Reason Rack in FL STUDIO as a VST3. Lol.
Best of both worlds.
@@HazyJ28 well I never got used to Fl... Tried it, didn't like the interface
@@raggadubdubgaming FL studios interface is a bit of mess. I prefer Ableton's, but I am jealous of all the cool creative stuff Reason has.
My entire musical DNA has had Reason at the root of it since v1. I get excited every-time you guys release something new! Between Ableton Live, Reason+ and VCV Rack, I have everything I really need....and can make the things I don't within them. Keep doing what you do! Every-time a video starts with Ryan, I know we're about to hear about something new and amazing! Also my best guess is Trap is written at a higher tempo to make it easier to program interesting hihat patterns. The individual subdivisions being faster allow for fast hi hat fills, while the rest of the elements are at half-time. 16th not hihat rolls have less energy at 70bpm.
I was thinking the same thing this morning: Ableton + Reason + VCV Rack -- what a time to be alive.
You are correct Req. Trap uses complex HH patterns which don't translate to slower tempos.
@@mgorsuch It really is.
super nice grooves, you got my foot tappin' great demo as always!
This is everything I needed in my workflow. I absolutely can't wait to get to work!
Buying succeeded . And thank you for this creativity. We only need the development of Reson in order to run midi-loops and audio-loops at the speed of the project
Whoa, whoever came up with this UX is brilliant. This is gonna be FUN.
Just love this new addition to the reason home. Been a lifelong user of reason from the very start and have just recently opted for the subscription, why I didn't earlier I don't know. But yey fun fun fun until the sun comes back up:)
a 70bpm pulse may be a bit tricker to keep up with bc it’s too slow. as odd as it sounds, imagine playing 8th notes for a 70 bpm track, or 1/4 notes on a 140. this is just my view though others may differ. great video!
Composing trap in double tempo makes it easier to program "ratchets" On the added note, how would this work for finding proper basslines for more specific genres - ie. Bossa Nova or Pop/Rock How about tieing the sequencer to a scale?
To tie it to a scale you can just put a scales and chords below it and set your scale that way (probably turning off the chords part but it is up to you)
@Professor T-Rex gets it
@Professor T-Rex maybe crossed wires here as I mentioned that as I thought the original poster was asking how to do this. I agree it could and should be in the player device and personally I would also like it to have the option of less than 16 steps. Mattias at rs has mentioned they may update it so possibly they could add this later (if they do revisit it)
Does anyone know how I can have Bassline Generator automatically play more than one pattern? I definitely don't want or need to manually click back and forth between patterns with the mouse (how this video demonstrates at 16:08). I'm running the Reason Rack Plugin inside of Ableton Live 11.
Best player yet. Bought it right away. Love it
Lets be honest, Reason Studios in the last 12 months have ben smashing out incredible devices, and with the added presentation of these videos its hard not to get excited or consider heading back to RS if you've recently given up on them. But I must remember why I have to leave in the first place....I'll have admit though they nearly got me back with this one.....
So why did you leave?l
Nice tool. Small question. How can we make the output legato, so there is no space between notes (aka note latch)? Could be useful for Sub bass, for genres like DnB.
Hmmm... good question. I don't actually know myself but I'll look into it because now I'm curious. :) /ryan
@@ReasonStudios and what... No answer after 6 months? ;-)
Re: 140 vs 70 bpm. It’s easier to work in 16th subdivisions vs 32nds and some tools don’t support it. It’s similar to Drum n Bass two step at 174 - most beat detectors will say it’s 87 bpm. That’s my thinking anyways.
Do you see any connections between trap and dubstep, which is also at 140?
Nice new player, was hoping for some workflow updates like: Remote items for the browser, sequencer etc. Cue/Loop points for fast navigation in the sequencer. Sequencer foldable group tracks for better organisation. Toggle show/hide empty tracks and prefs option to auto-create tracks for all rack devices for faster remote control of devices. Tie this in with browser meta data for more advance search filters and I'm sure it'll be making many reason users happy.
i agree workflow updates..like whats the hold up
The Reason Sequencer seems to be too neglected for rack devices and refills. We hope they will put effort to make it a proper sequencer.
I had to blink twice to make sure I am still in base reality. Reason is insane. I can assure you the next wave of music I'm making will trascend
is bassline generator available as vst plugin for other daws?
Nearly all answers by day 2 about why trap is 140 BPM have been fundamentally wrong. A drummer could easily answer this question. Trap, Dubstep, etc. have a "half time" feel. As opposed to "common time" or "double time". For example, Mid-Tempo Bass (e.g., Rezz, Blanke, 1788-L, etc.) is in "common time" feel in the 80-110 BPM range. DnB is in "common time" feel in the 176-ish BPM range. Rockabilly is in "double time" feel. All of these three descriptors refer to the FEEL of the main downbeat (kick) and backbeat (snare) pulse against the high-hat pulse (which, in some styles of EDM, is replaced by the mid-bass pulse). For example, in Funk and Disco music, the basic high-hat beat pattern grid is 16th notes (with occasional faster fills), with emphasis on syncopation in the 16th note pattern, against a common time downbeat/backbeat pattern on the kick and snare (although usually also with some syncopation on the kick itself). Contrast this with the steady 8th note pulse of high-hat patterns for most rock music, against the common time downbeat/backbeat pattern of the kick and snare. So, it's a FEEL thing. Half time feel creates a slow, dragging push-pull conflict between the main down/backbeat pulse of the kick/snare against the hi-hat pulse of the beat. It's NOT that earlier drum machines and DAW sequencer grids, etc didn't have enough resolution. They clearly did! It's that a lot of producers don't understand how drummers think about rhythms like this.
Here are a few simple examples. Think about any rock song. You count the hats as 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and (8th note pulse) against the 1 and 3 downbeat of the kick, and the 2 and 4 backbeat of the snare. A drummer would therefore think of rock as having a "common time 8th note pattern". Now think about any funk or disco song. The "dance music" genres before there was electronic dance music of any real sort, lol. You count the hats as 1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a (16th note pulse) against the 1 and 3 downbeat of the kick, and the 2 and 4 backbeat of the snare. A drummer would therefore think of funk/disco has having a "common time 16th note pattern". In rockabilly, you use 8th note rock hi-hat patterns, but you speed up the kick and snare down/back beats twice as fast. A "double time 8th note pattern". Which gives rockabilly its characteristic manic "feel".
Now let's compare dubstep to mid-tempo bass. (Listen to Rezz if you don't know what mid-tempo bass sounds like.) Same types of mid-bass sounds, lots of similarities to each other in terms of sound design, and in the big "arena style" kicks used in both genres. But what makes dubstep _fundamentally_ different from mid-tempo bass is the half-time kick/snare against 16th note feel of dubstep bass patterns, versus the common time kick/snare against 8th note mid tempo bass patterns. (Neither of these two genres rely much on hi-hat patterns in the drops... the beat grid is implied by the mid-bass patterns in the drops.) If you really think about dubstep versus mid-tempo, you'll notice that dubstep has this characteristic push-pull FEEL caused by the slow kick/snare against an otherwise busy 16th-note pulse that the mid-tempo bass pattern is typically using. By contrast, mid-tempo bass FEELS a LOT more like a "rock song". You can even hear this reflected in how Rezz often uses rock-ish guitar sounds for the chord progressions in her songs. Mid-tempo bass is very much a 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and feel, with "steady note" 8th-note bass patterns. Which is characteristic of rock music.
Now for the mind-blowing part: Dubstep is typically in the 140 to 150 BPM range, right? And Mid-Tempo is typically in the 80-100 BPM range (sometimes ranging up to 110). On ONE level, mid-tempo feels FASTER than dubstep, but on a 2ND level, mid-tempo feels SLOWER than dubstep. Puzzle that out! Okay, here is why... Dubstep generally feels "frenetic" and "spastic", but a characteristic of Mid-Tempo is that it overall feels "trippy". Here's what's happening. When your brain focuses on the downbeat and backbeat of the song (the kick/snare), dubstep feels slower than mid-tempo. Because that half time feel of the kick/snare alone is at 70 BPM despite all the mid-bass lines being at 140 BPM on a 16th note grid. But the common time feel of a Mid-Tempo song's kick and snare is at 80-100 BPM. But! When your brain focuses on the basses in the song, Dubstep feels really fast and frenetic! Because the basses are running fast 140 BPM 16th note patterns! (With lots of triplet 8th and triplet 16th patterns tossed into the mix too!) By contrast, Midtempo feels really slow and trippy because the basses are running slow, mechanical 80-100 BPM 8th note patterns!
TL;DR - Bass players and drummers since forever have known that the "feel" of a song relies on the _interplay_ between the bass and the drums. And you can extend this to the interplay between the kick and the hats. By mixing/matching a slower, trippy/thoughtful/moody 8th note bass line (and hats) OR faster, bouncy, frenetic 16th note bass lines (and hats) against either half time, common time, or double time kick/snare patterns, you create the fundamental, characteristic feels of every popular music genre under the sun. Fun fact: I was a performing bass player for 9 years, followed by 6 years performing on drums. Rock, funk, jazz, and even more than a few "world" genres. That's why this is all second nature to me and I can explain it this way.
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Not surprised Reason Studios loves your comment. They have been all about taking your money for a few years now.
Great new player, looking forward to using it.
YES another pattern generator. I love it for my hardware synths! I'm certainly using this for bass and NON-Bass :)
Cant wait for what's next? an FX extension that competes with the microcosm hologram? *wink wink
Wow. 🤩 this is well needed for my Library ..
THXS. ❤️
Back in the day, 140 BPM would give you faster drum fills/hats using the "note repeat" function of samplers/drum machines, even though the main elements driving the beat were half that BPM. So things just kinda stayed that way🤷🏽♂️. It was just a way to get faster stuttering notes for fills over a slower beat. Worked for trap, and dnb, and other genres as well.
Exactly. Limitation of earlier technology, now kept out of tradition.
I think for DAW users, we've kind of just accepted this gut feeling that some of these 140+ bpm genres like Trap or Dubstep just have a "half time" feel.
I also believe it's just easier to keep tempo internally at faster speeds. Ask a drummer to keep 60 BPM and they might struggle, but ask them to play 120 and they'll probably do a lot better (even though the reality is that they're really essentially just counting 60 BPM in 8th notes). It's just a weird psychological thing.
Can I throw a Scales and chords player on it to make the bass play in a scale?
Yes! Just place a Scales and Chords in between BLG and your instrument!
Just simply, WOW! Tackar grabbar och tjer.
you guys are the F-ing BEST!!! thank you always. much love.
What I add bassline generator of top of mono bass play ID8 automatically loads below bassline generator. How to I prevent this?
Can we control + variate something else with this as well? 'might not need bass only ...
I've played around with using this as a "melodic hook" generator by playing synths in ranges higher than bass and by using this as a "percussion generator" by playing drum machines with it. So yeah, the beauty of Players is that they can be used in ways other than their label might suggest. /ryan
It has CV outputs for both note and gate and also for when tied notes occur and for accented notes. These can be used to do all kinds of cool stuff!
And you can of course put any instrument device underneath it. And dropping in a scales and chords below it will give you an automatically generated chord progression :)
Am really pleased to see this device in the reward store! This is good news for those who have built up reward points in the RS shop. Would be nice to see Reason upgrade and Reason+ annual subscription in the reward store too.
As a Bass player i can see its potential,looks a fun player#reasonrocks
I struggle more, that my Reason 11 Plugin sometimes never opens up in Studio One 5 and also takes quite long to load up ...
Cry more please
@@drwalka10 when you buy software, you expect it to work. This is not crying. This is someone expecting the software to operate like it should. So maybe it is you that cries whenever some criticizes your precious reason. Boo hoo. This guy wants his $500+ software to work. Boo hoo.
This looks wicked!!!!!
HOW DO I GET LOGIC TO CAPTURE THE MIDI COMING OUT OF THE BASSLINE GEN? CANT SEEM TO FIGURE IT OUT WITHOUT A MIDI CONTROLLER. NEW TO ALL THIS... PLEASE HELP! JUST WANT WHATS COMING OUT OF THE PLUGIN TO RECORD THE MIDI IN MY TRACK WITHOUT MANUALLY USING KEYBOARD...
Thanks for a great video. Can you export as MIDI to your DAW? - could be nice to see the the key of the notes and getting minor, is that by turning Minorness on? And how will you most efficiently set the bass to a e.g. 4 chord progression and get it into you Track?
Yes! Use the MIDI Out device in Reason to route the MIDI to any new MIDI track in your DAW ruclips.net/video/9SR_qQDGHuI/видео.html
still no midi cc from Live to Reason VST??
I only have an RSS feeder-plugin to catch Ryan's/Reason's fresh videos. Anytime i see this litte number, telling me to prepare for a coffee, some decent information, sounds and graphics, my eyes start to twinkle ;)
There are a lot of players out there, but i must admit, Andy seems to always hit the right eyecandy-spot! Bravo!
For me as a non subscriber, it hurts a little bit to pay 1/4-1/2 of an entire Reason update fot a player, but this might just be subjective due to the holes in my vallet ;-)
Lately a new point came on my wishlist. It would be really nice to have an option/tick mark to force every new created "Chords and Scales" player to appear in the same key+settings as the first created in the current project. i'm too often too lazy to scroll wayyy up to catch the player with control+shift , copying it wayyyy down to the desired instrument.
This often ends in creating a new player from the browser, scrolling wayyyy up because i mostly forgot in wich key i am working/playing 😹
Keep up the good Work!
Man this is the area that I could use the most help with
Absolutely marvelous explanation and tutorial.
Anyone know where I can find a midi parameter/implementation chart for bassline generator? I'm trying to program some patch changes in reason via external controllers. Running as a vst into reaper.
I have Reason 12 and Bassline Generator is not showing up in my players section. Can you advise?
When making Trap on FL Studio, if your making the drum beat and your not sampling the hats it's more or less impossible at
70BPM to get rolling hats so its made at 140 so you can make the rolling treble. If your sample the hats it can be made at 70BPM or 140 it doesn't make a difference. I am new to reason studio
And I'm still tring to get use to the drum machines. I'm struggling to do the rolling treble so I'm exporting audio files that iv made on FL Studio I don't know if the 140BPM thing stems from FL users or if you have the same problem on every DAW.
A question: Can I record or export just the midi notes so I can use the Generator's MIDI as my starting point, and change the MIDI to better suit my purposes in the Sequencer?
Yes! Just record the MIDI straight into your sequencer, or press the Send to Track button in the top-right if you're using the Reason DAW.
A lot of focus on devices is nice, it’s been cool, but there should be some more updates to basic functionality of modern DAWs
And this is why I am addicted to reason.
Thank You -Kanye- Ryan, Very Cool! 👍😄
Check out my upcoming albums "808 and Heartburn" or "The Kindergarten Dropout" /ryan
@@ReasonStudios will do 🙂
Looks fun but... still no sequencer updates? Any day now, I suppose...
Hi, is this a open VST-Plugin and can I buy and use it with cubase?
Bassline Generator can be used inside the Reason Rack Plugin which runs as a VST. The easiest way to get started these days is a Reason+ subscription, which gets you access to all the devices (including Bassline Generator) and Reason (DAW + Rack plugin), for just 19.99 a month.
This guy is very good in analyzing in-depth, where can I find more of his work? More of his plugins or presets?
Great video, i was struggling with ...where is the manual. I had a feeling the black dots affected velocity ...thanks again.
This is 🔥🔥🔥!
What if you have some chords and drums and you just want the bass to follow with something nice?
Is this available already? :o
It is! Both via Reason+ or in the Shop.
Back here a few months later... We need to be able to put midi in here, some new patches would be nice but I'm still loving it 😎 @ReasonStudios
Boom! This is also my ostinato generator!
ha! Totally. /ryan
The reason Trap Artist use "double time" tempo is usually for the sake of having more granular control over hi hats (though, this requires the snare drum to then be placed on the 3 and 7 instead of 2 and 4). Because remember- In double time, 2 bars in your DAW now =1 bar.
Switched from Ableton to Studio One because of ATOM SQ integration (the best across DAWs), but Reason is where creativity comes. Been using FL+Reason 10 years ago. Now it's time to bring Reason back :-)
Great video with great teaching! Thank you! Don't have Reason, but can anyone recommend something for either Machine or Ableton that is this simple? Basslines are a bit tough for me to suss out
You can use Bassline Generator in Ableton and Maschine with the Reason Rack Plugin VST! The plugin comes with a Reason+ subscription, or purchase of Reason 12.
Holy Smokes this be fire 🔥🔥
So is Bassline Generator a good substitute for Matrix, given you could override notes manually? It has a nicer interface but maybe I’ve missed something Matrix can do that Bassline Generator cannot?
This is the reason I just bought into Reason 😎
Love it!
(up till now yep I pretty much sucked at bass lines -- now I might stand a fighting change however)
I would love to see a way to externally control the X/Y matrix in real-time via some hardware/surface plus the ability to use program changes (or some other MIDI CC) to flip between those 8 "presets" on demand.
Both to be able to explore those rhythms combinations without being attached to a mouse as well as to be able to tweak in performance mode (dicey but interesting!)
Imagine what would happen if they can put the same amount of work, time, energy and love for the Reason DAW to improve as they did with this bassline generator. Must say I'm impressed
YOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I NEEDED THIS ONE!!!!!!!!
I am watching your video over and over again (together with the Big Bass Battle) .. so very inspiring. Just a question. which female vocal samples are you using around 7:56 in the video (i.e. from which album or sound pack)?
Please can props make every MIDI output available to send MIDI clock out ?????? for so many years you can only send one MIDI output port MIDI clock..??? why..?? Every other DAW I have you can send MIDI clock out to all outputs, why does Reason only allow one port to send MIDI clock out in preferences..????
this video like 3 years old.. love it.. Now I am no musician. Or even know music theory. But can you make this music with reason? and this bass magician " bassline genereator"..is it included in Reason? or is it something I have to buy extra? I agree.. the good bass makes the whole song so much better. Sorry for asking.. But I want to start making music again. like I am close to 60.. this sound makes me remember those days my knees were in good shape. Love it
Ingenious 🤩
I love you reason 12 ❤️
Answer to your question about trap bpm....HI HATS....in my experience its way easier for everything in the rack to translate what u want to do with the hats n quantization n all is way easier at the higher bpm like 140 then doing it cut in half at 70bpm, i always use to try 70 or 60 n learned hard way it works better on hi end🤷🏻♂️
But i cant wait to play with this device, reminds me of a sequencer on an analog synth, but way better
why does the BassGenerator not have a Root Note CV Input? This would perfectly make sense for the new Chord Sequencer!
As a bass player, I am mildly offended. But it will be nice to hear more interesting basslines in the community.