Watch a critic CHALLENGE me on the Seal of God and Mark of the Beast!

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  • @DanielnKitavi
    @DanielnKitavi 7 месяцев назад +14

    This was cool. This is the kind of friendly, charitable dialogue I like. You can learn from both parties with that kind of environment. Great job.

    • @happytobe77
      @happytobe77 7 месяцев назад +3

      I agree, it's got a good feel about their style of podcast!

  • @liftupyourtrumpet
    @liftupyourtrumpet 6 месяцев назад +13

    This guy is genuine. God wants us all to be saved, but some folks would rather do the work of the king of Tyre. These are the saints that are thirsty for the truth, and may our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ quench it with the living waters! Let's all pray for the Heavenly Father to send His Holy Spirit to prick the heart of our dear brother, Jesus loves him so much! God bless! 🙏🏻❤

  • @mramosw00db33z
    @mramosw00db33z 6 месяцев назад +4

    VERY refreshing ❤ that was one of the BEST displays of brotherly love I have seen. I LOVED this discussion, PRAISE the Lord ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @kenisharobert2369
    @kenisharobert2369 5 месяцев назад +4

    The Bible says the job of the holy Spirit is to lead us and guide us into through. If we choose to be convicted and believe as truth is revealed, He seals our faith as long as we choose to continue to believe

  • @sharidandan4172
    @sharidandan4172 5 месяцев назад +6

    I love our brothers' sincerity and willingness to challenge the SDA. But the same thing i keep hearing from those that disagree is. "That event in the bible was specific to certain time and place therfore ignore it" heavily paraphrased to emphasize the underlying point made. Why do people insistently try to do away with all the details in scripture. Even jesus when trying to explain future events kept referring people back to the things that had already been recorded in his word to prepare them for the future. God bless all

  • @kln4863
    @kln4863 5 месяцев назад +2

    My understanding as a Christian is that in order to have everlasting life. You have to refuse the mark of the beast that means you have to know what the beast mark is and you have to know what God's Mark is and if you accept god's mark and you reject satan's mark.
    Then you will end up being with Jesus Christ for eternity.
    When I became a 7th day Adventist I really started to understand and time prophecy and what it is truly talking about and it made so much sense.
    I also do believe we are living in the last days of the world and the creation of it.
    If you watch a lot of news on the political parties and the roman Catholic church and how the roman Catholic church has really got there hand involved in the United. States of America and the Pope and he is bringing out things that he wants to have happened in the United States.
    I am seeing it a lot.

  • @joycehenry88
    @joycehenry88 6 месяцев назад +4

    Beautiful discussion. People who really have a love for God and His truth. God bless.

  • @susangonos589
    @susangonos589 6 месяцев назад +4

    Some of the best answers I have heard. Thank you Elder Cotto and Dr. Thomas.

  • @phillippierre1614
    @phillippierre1614 6 месяцев назад +3

    All children of God that died in Christ should have a seal for Christ to call them from the grave

  • @Michelle-d6j
    @Michelle-d6j 6 месяцев назад +7

    The bigger context that is being discussed is the Great Controversy.

    • @rayray4192
      @rayray4192 6 месяцев назад +1

      The great controversy is a fable and fairy tale from hell.

  • @feagainiumata1416
    @feagainiumata1416 6 месяцев назад +2

    Remember what Jesus said about the work of the Holy Spirit in John 16:8-1 3 He will reproved the world of sin, and of righteousness and of judgement…; And verse 13, the Spirit of TRUTH will guide you into ALL TRUTH….”. When people sincerely seek truth the Holy Spirit guides them to truth. Unfortunately that’s not the case in a lot of these preachers, and the reason they have been led astray with all kinds of deception. Thank you guys for your patience and perseverance towards these men. Praying God help them see truth❤

  • @berylcunningham1328
    @berylcunningham1328 6 месяцев назад +6

    Several persons also asked me if I am a Seventh Day Adventist. Once I went to the market and a lady asked me if I were a Seventh Day Adventist. I told her yes. I then asked her if she were. She said no. I asked her why she asked. She said "you speak like one of them" I dont know what this mark or speech looks or sounds like.....

    • @lavieenrose5954
      @lavieenrose5954 4 месяца назад

      Sounds like you said something that triggered her..

  • @lloyddixon3861
    @lloyddixon3861 6 месяцев назад +2

    Happy Sabbath All

  • @JDHuffman
    @JDHuffman 7 месяцев назад +7

    Happy Sabbath

  • @thatnicekid04
    @thatnicekid04 7 месяцев назад +2

    0:00 - Intro
    2:42 - Today's Topic
    4:24 - Introduction of Guest
    6:54 - Edwin's Position of the Seal of God
    18:08 - Guest's Position - Servants of God before being sealed
    19:52 - Discussion on views
    29:15 - When did the 144,000 receive the Father's Name?
    31:40 - Do All of God's People Have the Seal of Revelation 7?
    43:27 - The Holy Spirit as a Down Payment
    47:07 - The Timing of God's Seal/ Ezekiel's Example
    51:00 - Are all Christians the 144,000?
    52:07 - The Seal is Invisible
    53:00 - Examples of Additional Seals
    59:30 - The Example of Ezekiel 9
    1:12:48 - The Sabbath and the Seal
    1:26:38 - Conclusion

  • @cherylbyfield2501
    @cherylbyfield2501 6 месяцев назад +2

    I think the 144k relationship with God could be compared with the relationship Enoch had with God.

  • @1dayatatimedoc992
    @1dayatatimedoc992 6 месяцев назад +5

    Isaiah 43 But now thus says the Lord,
    he who created you, O Jacob,
    he who formed you, O Israel:
    “Fear not, for I have redeemed you;
    I have called you by name, you are mine.
    how many times does Jesus say you do not know me. Knowing someone’s name is truly knowing the person. Just as God says, he calls you by name because he knows you. And remember it says name written in there forehead. These are the ones who know God . The seal is God telling the world and the heavens. These are those who know me.

  • @Nanjayal
    @Nanjayal 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great discussion.

  • @3angelsfarmacy
    @3angelsfarmacy 5 месяцев назад +1

    Minute 36:35 - Answer: Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God…

    • @AdventDefenseLeague
      @AdventDefenseLeague  5 месяцев назад

      I sure wish I had remembered that verse in the moment.

  • @komislattroblox1806
    @komislattroblox1806 7 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent!

  • @jeffsimpson-h4g
    @jeffsimpson-h4g 6 месяцев назад +1

    i don't know if you go to or use the Geneva bible on your e-sword. as i was watching this the 2nd time, when you got to Rev. 13:17 i looked over to the top right window of e-sword where the Geneva bible notes where. there's some very good references to some historians such as Suetonius and others with where their writings are about this chapter, especially on the name of the beast.

    • @AdventDefenseLeague
      @AdventDefenseLeague  6 месяцев назад

      What do they say?

    • @jeffsimpson-h4g
      @jeffsimpson-h4g 6 месяцев назад

      this is what was there. 5) Contrary to that which God of old commanded should be written in the head piece of the high Priest, that is, "Sanctitas Jehova", Holiness unto the Lord. The name of blasphemy imposed by the dragon, is that which Paul says in (2Th_2:4) "He sits as God and boasts himself to be God" For this name of blasphemy both the Roman Emperors did then challenge to themselves, as Suetonius and Dion do report of Caigula and Domitian: and after them the popes of Rome professed the same of themselves, when they challenged to themselves sovereignty in holy things of which kind of sayings the sixth book of the Decretals, the Clementines, and the Extravagants, are very full. For these men were not content with that which Anglicus wrote in his Poetria, (the beginning of which is "Papa stupor mundi" The pope is the wonder of the world) "Nec Deus es, nec homo, sed neuter es inter utrungue." Thou art not God, nor art thou man, but neuter mixed of both: as the gloss witnesses on the sixth book: But they were bold to take to themselves the very name of God, and to accept it given of other: according as almost a hundred and twenty years since there was made for Sixtus the fourth, when he should first enter into Rome in his papal dignity, a Pageant of triumph, and cunningly fixed upon the gate of the city he should enter at, having written upon it this blasphemous verse: "Oraclo vocis mundi moderaris habenas, Et merito in terrs crederis esse Deus." That is, By oracle of thine own voice, the world thou governest all, And worthily a God on earth men think and do thee call. These and six hundred the like who can impute to that modesty by which good men of old would have themselves called the servants of the servants of God? Verily either this is a name of blasphemy, or there is none at all.
      i didn't know anything of the Geneva bible until i watched a religious liberty lawyer give a talk at Village SDA church. he made mention in his talk that it was not the KJV used by the later reformers but the Geneva bible and it was the Geneva bible that was brought to the US by the Pilgrims and if i'm remembering right even those from Jamestown. he, the speaker also mentioned that while the Geneva bible was used along with others and many manuscripts to come up with the KJV, the king refused to allow the published notes with the text because in the account of Moses's birth, the midwives were asked why the male Hebrews children were not killed, their response was untrue. but in this it was not a sin to disobey Pharoah's orders because they were protecting life. King James became infurious saying "how dare any commoner refuse to obey a kings order." i have the Geneva downloaded on a pdf and refer to it some. it is kind of hard to follow at times for it is even older English than the KJV and some letters look like other letters, (a common practice in those days was to substitute similar letters if one was not used or unavailable, such as in Latin, a V in place of a U, and the spelling of words is really different than our English.@@AdventDefenseLeague

    • @jeffsimpson-h4g
      @jeffsimpson-h4g 6 месяцев назад

      @@AdventDefenseLeague i also found this in searching for Pontifex Maximus, a title given to the Caesar's/Emperors of Rome, which after Constantine moved his seat to Constantinople, the bishop of Rome sought for his own. though it's never used as an "official" title, it is on the heading of each of the pope's encyclicals. the title means "supreme Pontif" which refers to the head of the Roman religions. (pagan). it has a side meaning of "bridge builder" meaning one who builds bridges between the gods and men. fitting title for one who would "build" the bridge between paganism and Christianity.

  • @berylcunningham1328
    @berylcunningham1328 6 месяцев назад +1

    A young lady, who I was seeing for the first time, asked me if I were a Seventh Day Adventist. I told her yes. I then asked het is she were. She said no. I then askef her why she asked. She then responded that I have a peculiar look. I do not know what that looks look like. I can only conclude that there is a 'seal' in my forehead!! What do you think??

  • @cliftonwelsh5878
    @cliftonwelsh5878 6 месяцев назад +1

    Well, the Holy Spirit is the Sealer the commandments including the Seventh-Day Sabbath is the seal. I don't like when SDAs say "for me or in my opinion" when conducting Bible studies. Let's stick with "The word of God says"🇯🇲 Blessing brothers.

  • @bridgettstiggers1
    @bridgettstiggers1 3 месяца назад

    50:23 This is really good!

  • @bridgettestokesconner9401
    @bridgettestokesconner9401 6 месяцев назад +1

    YES 🙌🏾 Read on where it says there was. GREAT MULTITUDE‼️Revelation 7:9! Hallelujah. Study my people you can be in that number ❤

  • @TheKingkingg
    @TheKingkingg 6 месяцев назад +2

    We must also remember Emmanuel Yeshua Messiah is not coming back for denominations, he is coming for those with his mark and marked are jews and gentiles, bond and free

  • @berylcunningham1328
    @berylcunningham1328 6 месяцев назад +1

    Did the disciples have the Holy Spirit before Pentecost? Thanks.

    • @thatnicekid04
      @thatnicekid04 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes.
      John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
      But the event in Acts 2 was a greater manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

  • @JDHuffman
    @JDHuffman 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hello, Are we Live?

  • @wordoftruthchannel3984
    @wordoftruthchannel3984 6 месяцев назад

    38:39, proper exegesis will first consider the historical context of the book and the original audience.
    Revelation 7 and 14 would have made sense to them because the book was originally addressed to them, i.e., the seven churches of Revelation.
    So, the N.T. context of the seal of God must be factored into the interpretive process.
    We must not divorce the text from its context.

  • @Dee1Mr
    @Dee1Mr 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm still extending my invite to a formal debate, to go to a channel like the gospel truth and debate on these matters. I don't think this brother has ever really studied adventism, so many issues he could have pressed you on but didn't. Starting with the use of the KJV to read Revelation, any scholar knows that Erasmus didn't have the manuscript to the book of Revelation, so he used Latin commentaries and then later on, they used Erasmus to translate to Greek and that's how the received text was created. So there are these things that Erasmus added which were not written by John, for example, those who have the faith of Jesus. John said, those who have faith in Jesus. These are things that make individuals to come to false doctrines.
    He was supposed to press you even on historicism. Maybe prophecy is not his area of specialization I understand, but accept the invite and debate with a person who has studied Biblical history, Biblical languages, church history and theology. Then let's see if what you brothers teach will square up

    • @thatnicekid04
      @thatnicekid04 7 месяцев назад +1

      KJV is only a preference. It was not used to say that it is a 100% match to the original manuscript. ADL doesn't mind going into the concordance for a clearer understanding of the Bible.
      I really like KJV though. 😅

    • @Dee1Mr
      @Dee1Mr 7 месяцев назад

      @@thatnicekid04 some books it is a great translation but it has many errors on top of the English being outdated. I was not talking about checking the meaning of words. I was talking about additions and subtractions done to it.
      1 John 5:7 for example, faith of Jesus instead of faith in Jesus. Your way O Lord is in the sanctuary instead of, your way O Lord is holiness.
      There is so much that is wrong there from how it was written and to the meaning of words which are foreign to us now.

    • @Dee1Mr
      @Dee1Mr 7 месяцев назад

      @@thatnicekid04 not to mention the Adventist favorite. Sin is transgression of the law instead of lawlessness which is an entirely different concept. Check the history of what Erasmus did and how the received text came about, you will understand

    • @thatnicekid04
      @thatnicekid04 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Dee1MrI'll look into it

    • @ChrisLottering
      @ChrisLottering 6 месяцев назад +1

      A Christian must have the faith of Jesus, because Jesus is our example. Just be careful in wanting to be right that you reject the truth that is in the scripture. That's how people stray and end up on the adversaries side without them knowing it. What does it profit a man to win the world and... Let God be true and every man...

  • @christopherbarnes2510
    @christopherbarnes2510 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hey brothers , at minute 25 . Please note that the Holy Spirit in given in measure./levels. Proof. John 3:34 and remember elisha asking for a double dose compared to Elijah

  • @Vbliss15
    @Vbliss15 5 месяцев назад

    Hi. I have a question regarding the 144,000. What will their mission be doing the end days? Also, will the be assigned before the rapture? From my understanding the 144 000 will be like Foo solders for Christ during the end days. Preaching and teaching the Gospel. Giving all Mankind one last time to repent and be saved. Is this what their purpose is? Please Respond.

  • @berylcunningham1328
    @berylcunningham1328 6 месяцев назад

    Can you also explain Colossians 2: 14-16. Many persons miss understood these verses along with the other chapters you mentioned. Thanks

    • @AdventDefenseLeague
      @AdventDefenseLeague  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, we will on part 2. But we do have some videos on that already.

    • @thatnicekid04
      @thatnicekid04 6 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/CSLvxaaf3aE/видео.htmlsi=WgLB4RnOOaDHvCrL

    • @berylcunningham1328
      @berylcunningham1328 6 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for responding. Can I get those videos? Can you also explain for me Hebrews 4:3-6. I am presently studying Hebrews 4 with someone hence I want to make sure I am on the right path. Thanks in advance. God bless.

    • @thatnicekid04
      @thatnicekid04 6 месяцев назад

      @@berylcunningham1328 here is one of the ADL videos on Colossians 2...
      ruclips.net/video/CSLvxaaf3aE/видео.htmlsi=6gd1ovcMVJGuZdbA

  • @kayrush9834
    @kayrush9834 6 месяцев назад

    So basically he got the seal, but it aint been stamped yet.

  • @twowitnessesbibleandwellne5600
    @twowitnessesbibleandwellne5600 2 месяца назад

    We also must pray that our people come out the belief in the trinity get back to what the Bible says one true God and his son Jesus Christ the holy spirit is the spirit of the father and the son

  • @morpeter76
    @morpeter76 6 месяцев назад

    Revelation 14:1 KJV - And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
    Sabbath
    ABBA = FATHER

    • @lesirterholland5186
      @lesirterholland5186 6 месяцев назад

      gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
      The seal is a knowledge of the true God and that knowledge is found within the 4th commandment, and only those who are led by the spirit of truth which is the spirit of Christ will receive the seal because they follow the Lamb wherever He go

  • @lesirterholland5186
    @lesirterholland5186 6 месяцев назад

    Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
    The seal is a knowledge of the true God and that knowledge is found within the 4th commandment, and only those who are led by the Spirit of Truth which is the Spirit of Christ will receive the seal because they follow the Lamb wherever He go

  • @TheKingkingg
    @TheKingkingg 6 месяцев назад +1

    There should be no debate. Good day brothers in Christ Yeshua Messiah Emmanuel. Mark of GOD is obedience to his laws and commandments and prophets teachings which he Emmanuel said ALL laws are fulfilled by 10 commandments divided ➗️ in 2. 1 to 5 is LOVE the Lord our God YHVH Emmanuel with all our hearts and might and no idolatry. 5 to 10 is love our neighbours as ourselves including our enemies where 5 is both GOD our creator and Father which Yeshua Messiah said call no man Father like catholic do, and also our early parents. Mark of beast and Satan is disobedience to God's laws and commandments and prophets teachings including 7th day sabbath, but many others including no sex between brothers and sisters incest or sex between humans and animals beastiality or pedophiles or sex between parents and children or sex between males or sex between females or sex orgies or multiple partners(these are fornication) or adultery cheating on partners. Or idolatry of images of Mary or Jeshua Messiah

  • @JDHuffman
    @JDHuffman 7 месяцев назад +1

    My chat is off

  • @twowitnessesbibleandwellne5600
    @twowitnessesbibleandwellne5600 2 месяца назад

    It's sad that at the beginning he said John believe in a triune God there is no three individual persons and there is no 3-in-1 all forms of the Trinity's devil worship

  • @eh235
    @eh235 6 месяцев назад

    How does he know there is no sun in heaven?

    • @747_Ryan
      @747_Ryan 6 месяцев назад

      I'm just going by Revelation 21:23. You can disagree if you don't think that's heaven or if heaven will require a sun to you. I view New Jerusalem as Heaven.

  • @berylcunningham1328
    @berylcunningham1328 6 месяцев назад +1

    1

  • @justbrosing
    @justbrosing 3 месяца назад

    I don't agree that the Spirit is the seal. It says we are sealed "with" the spirit. In that way a lot of the points kind of failed. The law is called the seal in Isaiah 8:16&20, and specifically the sabbath as in the verses quoted. Trying to be politically correct and say that yes the spirit is the seal as well as the sabbath is where you open doors to lose the "debate".

    • @justbrosing
      @justbrosing 3 месяца назад

      So when he asked if the seal is something that people had in the past the simple answer is yes. Good law had always been around. (EGW puts it this way that the dealing is s settling into the truth. Sorry to use her quote) but notice the word truth... which is synonymous with the law of God.

  • @jimijames7703
    @jimijames7703 6 месяцев назад

    What is the unpardonable sin? Grieving The Holy Spirit.
    Who is The Holy Spirit? Jesus Christ.
    Ellen White referred to herself as The Holy Spirit.
    SDA refer to her as The Holy Spirit.
    What is the unpardonable sin?

    • @AdventDefenseLeague
      @AdventDefenseLeague  6 месяцев назад

      SDAs do not refer to her as the Holy Spirit. That is false.

    • @jimijames7703
      @jimijames7703 6 месяцев назад

      @AdventDefenseLeague
      As an ordained Deacon I know I have stated a fact. SDA most certainly DO refer to EGW and her writings as SOP-and the Spirit of Prophecy is Christ Jesus.
      There is no wiggle room-this is a fact. So to refer to a human being as SOP or her writings as such would be a really bad idea.

    • @sharidandan4172
      @sharidandan4172 5 месяцев назад

      ​@jimijames7703 you made an initial claim. It was then challenged and your reply said something completely different.

    • @mattfred.12
      @mattfred.12 3 месяца назад

      @@jimijames7703 An ordained deacon in what? That is irrelevant. Can you biblically prove that Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit? SDAs do not believe that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. They are different persons in the Godhead. Why do you conflate the spirit of prophecy with the Holy Spirit?
      The spirit of prophecy is not Jesus Christ, it is the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ.
      *Rev 19:10* "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the TESTIMONY of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
      Biblically, the testimony of Jesus is the inspired message of Jesus to his people, through the prophets. If you look at Rev 1:2, John bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus, and of all the things he saw in the book of Revelation (which is the Revelation of Jesus Christ). The testimony of Jesus is connected with the word of God.
      In Rev 22:9, the angel also connects the testimony of Jesus Christ in Rev 19:10 with the prophets, and the understanding and keeping of the sayings of the book of Revelation.
      *Rev 22:9* "Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God."
      Yes, SDAs do recognize the gift of prophecy was manifested in the writings and ministry of Ellen White, and thus refer to her writings as the "Spirit of Prophecy" AS DEFINED BY THE BIBLE: a testimony of Jesus Christ. But until you can prove that Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy, or that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of prophecy mentioned in Rev 19:10, or that Jesus is the Holy Spirit, you cannot falsely accuse of SDA's referring to EGW as the Holy Spirit

  • @finray2
    @finray2 7 месяцев назад

    Sitting on the throne is symbolic as well. Your idea of just assuming because it is something in the real world that it is not symbolic is problematic

  • @jimijames7703
    @jimijames7703 6 месяцев назад

    In my experience the Adventist clings to Ellen White the way a Christian clings to Christ Jesus.

    • @feagainiumata1416
      @feagainiumata1416 6 месяцев назад

      Not true mate God knows the SDA are sharing truth and the reason why they are hated. The devil hate the truth.

    • @donward2674
      @donward2674 6 месяцев назад

      Why do you say that? Only Jesus Christ is saviour and all Seventh Day Adventist know Only Jesus is saviour.

  • @jacobcarlson9098
    @jacobcarlson9098 6 месяцев назад

    P R O M O S M