You guys have been killing it with all the videos!! Put out my first ever mock scrapes and licking branches and have had 3 of my biggest bucks come by and hit them!!! Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks Jeff, I’m in that boat, weeds popping oats didn’t germ the only thing I got is spotty tillage rad. Waiting for the next rains, going to pull an all nighter
Yeah, I chucked 150 lbs of winter wheat and winter rye on a new property the last week of Sept. In NY. All October I had deer on it and shot a nice buck mid Nov over it. This year I had time and i have several great food plots growing, but in my mind I keep thinking I got all I wanted out of a fall foodplot last year at 1/10 of the cost and work.
That's probably your best bet Alex! We got lucky and caught a 7)27 rain with most of our MN plots...but what a difference between the later plantings!!
I just put my plot in, way too wet here in Upstate NY, couldnt till in mud. I threw in tillage radish knowing the green comes in fast. Glad to see this video. Im learning something from your channel, I made the right call lol.
Highly unusual... extremely rare to see. In most areas it gets 4' tall, turns white and the deer ignore it completely. I would guess too many deer and a low nutrition area but you would be in the 1% and under category.
I threw down 4 different types of clover last weekend and it’s growing good I’m puttin a couple different things in my plot for variety but also a test because it is my first foodplot I just want to see what they like and I want to establish clover for the spring for my bucks and pregnant does
Seeded canola in northern Canada it’s gold here deer, elk, moose will feed on it if late seeded in august! Also going to top dress with winter rye soon looking good.
I tried to do the buckwheat method but deer annihilated it. I lightly tilled, seeded, fertilized, sprayed plot start and prayed on aug 10th. Everything is booming and had top 3 of biggest bucks since 1988 show up on the 22th eating the tinder sprouts. This dude is a giant 10pt at least 24" wide, 12in g2/3's.
Nice. That 10 pointer sounds like a real bruiser. How much do you figure he weighs? My plots haven't germinated yet. I seeded early august because there was no rain in July right before rain was in the forecast but we only got 6/10 of an inch and then a 1/10 or 2 a couple days later. Then it was dry for almost 2 weeks. I am hoping it will come up in the spring. If not I will just reseed the alfa rack seed mix in the spring.
Hi Jeff, I'm in southern Maryland and getting the Brassica (from your store) out in 2 days (on 24 Aug). We're getting rain forecasted several days. We've not had much rain up until now. Will plant Rye (from your store) out in the next week or two.
After the soybean harvest in mid Missouri October ,some cast off beans re grew and made bean sprouts 2-3 inches high and the deer loved it..I wonder if would be worth planting Beans just for sprouts like winter wheat
Got my last plot version 2.1 in two and half weeks ago in northern Wv. Thinking about walking through this weekend and adding buckwheat and tillage turnips just too see what it does and how it responds. Interestingly enough a dirt plot with nothing on it has been blanketed with deer tracks. This year has been different and I’ve stayed away from the property and it checked cameras as much as past years for various reasons and the one watching the plot shows a nice deer population using the plot daily. Funny thing is when it was just dirt is the first bucks I have ever had on the plot. Hopefully things will produce well and this season will be great
I brush cut and tilled by hand 2 plot areas and a long strip that curves through between them. Don't have the equipment to really do it properly right now so I seeded with a hand seeder and broadcast the seed and raked the soil over it in the plots. Then broadcast wheat on the strip between them. Probably go back and frost seed the wheat again. All of it was done early August. Rain was in the forecast and we only got half an inch or a little more just after. Then we got another shot of rain a week later and we just had approximately half an inch more rain and sadly it has been so dry this summer that I still don't see much germination. Alfa alfa, clover and chicory in the plots haven't had enough moisture to germ. It's not all bad though. At least I can reseed in the spring and be ready to go when the moisture is there and reseed maybe in July if there is rain. Still haven't done a soil test but I can tell a little lime and nitrogen wouldn't hurt.
Hi Jeff love your videos, I've learned so much! I recently moved to a home that is sort of a pass through and was wondering if you had any suggestions for specific crops for a food plot next year? I'm only on 6 acres about 4 is partially wood. CRP. I know ypu are a busy many any feedback is appreciated, thanks take care!
Hi Jeff, here in southern Indiana we had the ground all ready for planting brassica during Mid August but haven’t had any rain in the forecast for the past week or so. With the very hot weather we’ve been having we were scared to plant anything right now. The frost date is always usually right around the middle of October. Do you think it would be alright to wait another week or so and pray for some rain to come in and plant the brassica or plant something else?
I'm in Oklahoma and wanting to get a clover stand going, what ratio of seed would you recommend to mix if I'm mixing with rye or oats? Want to provide cover crop without the rye overtaking and choking the clover out. I saw in one of your videos it was a good idea to plant them together but wasn't sure the best way. BTW your videos are awesome
Thanks a lot! I would plant with 40-50#s of oats at first...wait in your area until late Oct and 150#s of rye per acre...and then kill the rye out in the spring
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 waiting till late October in Oklahoma is too late . He needs to have rye on the ground by late September and again October 10th to 15th.
I've got 3 places one near Muskogee, one near Grove and the other south of McAlester 40 miles. Got a missouri stretch too up just north of Arkansas line far SE missouri.
when you spray Clethodim for the grasses, do you need to add a surfactant like a crop oil concentrate, or will it still be effective without the added surfactant recommendations? I am trying to do a wheat food plot that is also mixed with clover seed. In the spring, am I understanding that spraying with the Clethodim will kill the wheat and rye, but leave the clover safe and unaffected?
Did you say you can put beans or peas in brassica plots? Another Question real quick I sprayed and did everything correct and this quackgrass came up quick and now its almost taking over my plot I dont want to spray a grass killer on it so i was thinking to mow it down to stunt because the brassicas are still small? any thoughts
I planted a few of my trails into some brassica blends about week and a half ago. Would you go broadcast some rye or buckwheat into that in 2 weeks to increase the value of the plot?
If I were to use well water to fill my tank sprayer to kill the weeds, will ammonium sulfate work, so the well water won’t dilute or neutralize the glyphosate and if so, how much ammonium sulfate do I use?
Hey Jeff great info. Im in NY and want to establish a clover plot for next year. I want to use rye as a cover crop. How many #s per acre would you spread of each? Also should I layer the rye and put more out the end of sept. or will that choke out the clover.
Hey Jeff, would it still be appropriate to use your fall power greens blend here in central Wisconsin, Sauk County area? I have plenty of winter rye at the ready to spruce it up later but would like to get some other stuff in there. Luckily im not far from Viroqua or Praire de Chien. Thanks in advance.
Hey Jeff! Great info as always. I have one quick question. I have a new property that I am now managing and have been doing an inventory this year. It seems as though there is a large difference in buck to doe ratio. I have about 3 bucks to ever one doe I have seen. I know it is early in the season and that is likely to change during the rut, but was curious if this is something I should be concerned about, or is this as good of a thing as it appears? Thank you in advance. I always appreciate your input.
Jeff- Central Wisconsin. First weekend in Aug planted half the plot (brassica) miss read my notes and did not plant the other half (NWWHS blend). Should I be planting that ASAP or is it too late? Also, when do I go over it all with rye for my area? Thank you so much
I always use Rye for a filler Jeff, never tried the tillage radish after my august barrasica planting, do you have just a stand alone tillage radish seed variety on your website?
Half my plot is ok with brassicas, but my back half I planted greens on has a bunch of weed coming in. Too late to spray the weedy half and plant more greens?
Hey Jeff. If I want to plant rye in a failed brassica plot, can I just spread it and let it do its thing, or do I need to cultipack it or drag it in? Thanks!
I have had good luck just broadcasting rye over the top. But do it right before a GOOD rain. If the seed just lays on top of the ground you will be surprised how much birds/chipmunks/etc can eat!!
I would like to say that if you have time, light tillage or dragging is better unless you have "some" thatch or something to seed into. And if you know Jeff, he recommends laying that rye heavy or doing several layers. Time may be running out for the layering thing.
I’ve been waiting on rain in southern Virginia and probably won’t get it for another 10 days! I have 150lb Rye grain and a brassica blend mixed in…do I need to re-evaluate if I can’t get it on the ground until sept 2-3rd?
You never want to mix rye and brassica. But, the rye will be your crop so no harm in spreading early to mid Sept and then look to add another layer of rye in early Oct if needed.
You must not watch this channel at all or you'd have known not to mix brassica and rye. You should plant them separately with brassica earlier than rye.🤦
Amen to that Drew! We have switched 14 cams to solar and lithium battery packs. We know of the same setups that have been running for over 2 years straight! Very hopeful...
unless they are cell cams you don’t need lithium. northern mn been running cams for 15ish years. little bears eat our cams so we use the tasco cams from walmart that are 30 bucks they work just fine. just getting into cell cams now.
You guys have been killing it with all the videos!! Put out my first ever mock scrapes and licking branches and have had 3 of my biggest bucks come by and hit them!!! Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks Jeff, I’m in that boat, weeds popping oats didn’t germ the only thing I got is spotty tillage rad. Waiting for the next rains, going to pull an all nighter
Well best of luck!
Yeah, I chucked 150 lbs of winter wheat and winter rye on a new property the last week of Sept. In NY. All October I had deer on it and shot a nice buck mid Nov over it. This year I had time and i have several great food plots growing, but in my mind I keep thinking I got all I wanted out of a fall foodplot last year at 1/10 of the cost and work.
Think I'm going to be going heavier on rye this year due to such dry conditions all year.
That's probably your best bet Alex! We got lucky and caught a 7)27 rain with most of our MN plots...but what a difference between the later plantings!!
I just put my plot in, way too wet here in Upstate NY, couldnt till in mud. I threw in tillage radish knowing the green comes in fast. Glad to see this video. Im learning something from your channel, I made the right call lol.
Our deer in Central PA love the kale...in the good mixes they always eat that first. Just something we noticed over the years.
Highly unusual... extremely rare to see. In most areas it gets 4' tall, turns white and the deer ignore it completely. I would guess too many deer and a low nutrition area but you would be in the 1% and under category.
no...good deer numbers and good food,...just something we noticed over the years throughout the state.
I threw down 4 different types of clover last weekend and it’s growing good I’m puttin a couple different things in my plot for variety but also a test because it is my first foodplot I just want to see what they like and I want to establish clover for the spring for my bucks and pregnant does
Seeded canola in northern Canada it’s gold here deer, elk, moose will feed on it if late seeded in august! Also going to top dress with winter rye soon looking good.
Definitely one of the few spots it works out well!
8 22 23 here .just came on one hr.ago.turnips n radishes w some cold season oats all up n doing good.
Fall plots by the older generation typically are planted Labor Day weekend here in TN 😎
Definitely...your Labor Day is our first week of August up here 😉
I tried to do the buckwheat method but deer annihilated it. I lightly tilled, seeded, fertilized, sprayed plot start and prayed on aug 10th. Everything is booming and had top 3 of biggest bucks since 1988 show up on the 22th eating the tinder sprouts. This dude is a giant 10pt at least 24" wide, 12in g2/3's.
Nice. That 10 pointer sounds like a real bruiser. How much do you figure he weighs?
My plots haven't germinated yet. I seeded early august because there was no rain in July right before rain was in the forecast but we only got 6/10 of an inch and then a 1/10 or 2 a couple days later. Then it was dry for almost 2 weeks. I am hoping it will come up in the spring. If not I will just reseed the alfa rack seed mix in the spring.
I'm having to wait because we had a heat wave just hit with no rain in the forecast. North western Kentucky.
Hi Jeff,
I'm in southern Maryland and getting the Brassica (from your store) out in 2 days (on 24 Aug). We're getting rain forecasted several days. We've not had much rain up until now. Will plant Rye (from your store) out in the next week or two.
After the soybean harvest in mid Missouri October ,some cast off beans re grew and made bean sprouts 2-3 inches high and the deer loved it..I wonder if would be worth planting Beans just for sprouts like winter wheat
Got my last plot version 2.1 in two and half weeks ago in northern Wv. Thinking about walking through this weekend and adding buckwheat and tillage turnips just too see what it does and how it responds.
Interestingly enough a dirt plot with nothing on it has been blanketed with deer tracks. This year has been different and I’ve stayed away from the property and it checked cameras as much as past years for various reasons and the one watching the plot shows a nice deer population using the plot daily. Funny thing is when it was just dirt is the first bucks I have ever had on the plot.
Hopefully things will produce well and this season will be great
I brush cut and tilled by hand 2 plot areas and a long strip that curves through between them. Don't have the equipment to really do it properly right now so I seeded with a hand seeder and broadcast the seed and raked the soil over it in the plots. Then broadcast wheat on the strip between them. Probably go back and frost seed the wheat again.
All of it was done early August. Rain was in the forecast and we only got half an inch or a little more just after. Then we got another shot of rain a week later and we just had approximately half an inch more rain and sadly it has been so dry this summer that I still don't see much germination. Alfa alfa, clover and chicory in the plots haven't had enough moisture to germ.
It's not all bad though. At least I can reseed in the spring and be ready to go when the moisture is there and reseed maybe in July if there is rain. Still haven't done a soil test but I can tell a little lime and nitrogen wouldn't hurt.
I use winter wheat up here in canada. It's about the only thing that seems to stay green into November
Great info as always Jeff
Thank you very much Matt!
Hi Jeff love your videos, I've learned so much! I recently moved to a home that is sort of a pass through and was wondering if you had any suggestions for specific crops for a food plot next year? I'm only on 6 acres about 4 is partially wood. CRP. I know ypu are a busy many any feedback is appreciated, thanks take care!
In Louisiana and we are dealing with a drought atm so dry our grass is crunchy lol still waiting to plant
Hi Jeff, here in southern Indiana we had the ground all ready for planting brassica during Mid August but haven’t had any rain in the forecast for the past week or so. With the very hot weather we’ve been having we were scared to plant anything right now. The frost date is always usually right around the middle of October. Do you think it would be alright to wait another week or so and pray for some rain to come in and plant the brassica or plant something else?
I'm in Oklahoma and wanting to get a clover stand going, what ratio of seed would you recommend to mix if I'm mixing with rye or oats? Want to provide cover crop without the rye overtaking and choking the clover out. I saw in one of your videos it was a good idea to plant them together but wasn't sure the best way. BTW your videos are awesome
Thanks a lot! I would plant with 40-50#s of oats at first...wait in your area until late Oct and 150#s of rye per acre...and then kill the rye out in the spring
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 that's not too far from what I was guessing but just wanted to be sure. Thank you!
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 waiting till late October in Oklahoma is too late . He needs to have rye on the ground by late September and again October 10th to 15th.
@bryanmoore9257 what part of Oklahoma are you in? I'm in southeast Oklahoma. We usually get our first frost late October to early November
I've got 3 places one near Muskogee, one near Grove and the other south of McAlester 40 miles. Got a missouri stretch too up just north of Arkansas line far SE missouri.
when you spray Clethodim for the grasses, do you need to add a surfactant like a crop oil concentrate, or will it still be effective without the added surfactant recommendations? I am trying to do a wheat food plot that is also mixed with clover seed. In the spring, am I understanding that spraying with the Clethodim will kill the wheat and rye, but leave the clover safe and unaffected?
Did you say you can put beans or peas in brassica plots? Another Question real quick I sprayed and did everything correct and this quackgrass came up quick and now its almost taking over my plot I dont want to spray a grass killer on it so i was thinking to mow it down to stunt because the brassicas are still small? any thoughts
Perfect timing ! Ty 👍🏻🦌🇺🇸
I really hope it helps...thanks to you!
Awesome information 🌧☘👍🏼
Thanks a lot Bow Man!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you !!!
Is it a good thing that all my bucks are showing up now, and it seems like they’re pushing out the does and fawns
Wisconsin needs some rain bad!
I just planted some brassicas in western Kentucky, it looks like no rain and 100 degree days . How long will the seed lay before it will not germinate
I planted a few of my trails into some brassica blends about week and a half ago. Would you go broadcast some rye or buckwheat into that in 2 weeks to increase the value of the plot?
Hi Kyle! You only want to spread rye into the plots... sometimes oats, if there is a brassica crop failure.
If I were to use well water to fill my tank sprayer to kill the weeds, will ammonium sulfate work, so the well water won’t dilute or neutralize the glyphosate and if so, how much ammonium sulfate do I use?
I'm putting multiple plots in this weekend of brassicas. I'm hoping it's not to late. What's your thought?
Hi Greg! Around here it is pushing it unless you get immediate germination. Central IN or IL or OH it would be fine
I'm in Buffalo county area. I'm crossing my fingers.
So jeff can you broadcast oats? People tell me they won't germinate
Hey Jeff great info. Im in NY and want to establish a clover plot for next year. I want to use rye as a cover crop. How many #s per acre would you spread of each? Also should I layer the rye and put more out the end of sept. or will that choke out the clover.
Oats are best nurse crop for fall clover.
I am a professional procrastinator. Im in central mn and im wondering if its even worth to plant anything right now because of the rain situation?
I live in sc and planning to fertilize and new cut field anything you recommend me doing ?
Hey Jeff, would it still be appropriate to use your fall power greens blend here in central Wisconsin, Sauk County area? I have plenty of winter rye at the ready to spruce it up later but would like to get some other stuff in there. Luckily im not far from Viroqua or Praire de Chien. Thanks in advance.
Hey Jeff! Great info as always. I have one quick question. I have a new property that I am now managing and have been doing an inventory this year. It seems as though there is a large difference in buck to doe ratio. I have about 3 bucks to ever one doe I have seen. I know it is early in the season and that is likely to change during the rut, but was curious if this is something I should be concerned about, or is this as good of a thing as it appears? Thank you in advance. I always appreciate your input.
Jeff- Central Wisconsin. First weekend in Aug planted half the plot (brassica) miss read my notes and did not plant the other half (NWWHS blend). Should I be planting that ASAP or is it too late? Also, when do I go over it all with rye for my area? Thank you so much
Or do I just skip the NWWHS this year and go straight rye on that side? There is little rain in the forecast which is concerning...thanks
I always use Rye for a filler Jeff, never tried the tillage radish after my august barrasica planting, do you have just a stand alone tillage radish seed variety on your website?
I planted brassicas mid August and it's been super wet since will that kill the seed?
Hi Ray...depends on if there is standing water. Brassicas do not like standing water and they will turn white and yellow
Would this weekend be too late to plant brassicas in North Carolina? We haven’t had rain in a while, but should be getting it the day of planting.
It should be really good Garrett...even into early Sept!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks!
Half my plot is ok with brassicas, but my back half I planted greens on has a bunch of weed coming in. Too late to spray the weedy half and plant more greens?
It really depends on where you are at, the variety of weeds and when you are getting rain next...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 central minnesota, main concern is some thistles that have come back through 3 sprayings
Brassica's look good in my food plots. The fall power greens aren't doing as good. Need more rain.
We definitely need more rain! It really depends on that initial germinating rain....
Thanks for the information
Hey Jeff. If I want to plant rye in a failed brassica plot, can I just spread it and let it do its thing, or do I need to cultipack it or drag it in? Thanks!
I have had good luck just broadcasting rye over the top. But do it right before a GOOD rain. If the seed just lays on top of the ground you will be surprised how much birds/chipmunks/etc can eat!!
@@meat-gardener I appreciate it, thank u!
I would like to say that if you have time, light tillage or dragging is better unless you have "some" thatch or something to seed into. And if you know Jeff, he recommends laying that rye heavy or doing several layers. Time may be running out for the layering thing.
What brand and model is the seeder you are using?
Earthway 2750 Hand Crank Bag Seeder/Spreader.
Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi - you can’t BUY a raindrop even if you wanted to. The Dixie Desert is forming.
I’ve been waiting on rain in southern Virginia and probably won’t get it for another 10 days!
I have 150lb Rye grain and a brassica blend mixed in…do I need to re-evaluate if I can’t get it on the ground until sept 2-3rd?
You never want to mix rye and brassica. But, the rye will be your crop so no harm in spreading early to mid Sept and then look to add another layer of rye in early Oct if needed.
You must not watch this channel at all or you'd have known not to mix brassica and rye. You should plant them separately with brassica earlier than rye.🤦
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 okay, looks like I need to search a few of your brassica videos. Thank you!
Looks no change for my corner of the world. Same as it's been since June.
Running all these cameras get expensive I bet I’ll spend over $300 in lithium batteries!
Amen to that Drew! We have switched 14 cams to solar and lithium battery packs. We know of the same setups that have been running for over 2 years straight! Very hopeful...
unless they are cell cams you don’t need lithium. northern mn been running cams for 15ish years. little bears eat our cams so we use the tasco cams from walmart that are 30 bucks they work just fine. just getting into cell cams now.
@@dylanhalseth1755 I stick with my tactacams and lithium’s
I second the solar panels! You will never have to buy another lithium battery again for the cameras. Well worth it.
You must not hunt Alabama I never hear bring up that state if you ever want to hung it holler at me I’ll show ya some of the small deer we have
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You sure are Kurt!
Dude you dont mess around with being 1st...LOL