Brienne talks about Renly Baratheon
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- Podrick Asks Brienne about Renly Baratheon.
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The fact that Renly didn't fancy Brienne makes him all the nicer as a person with how he stood up for Brienne.
Well he's gay😂
he knows how she felt. people mocked him behind his back too, and im sure back then at his age, there have been whispers. so he knows how painful it is to be exposed to cruelty like that
@@endor8witchyeah he saw the boys laughing at her and had probably experienced the same
@@blazer9547But he was still a nobleman, a notably higher one than most of the other boys who were probably from the minor houses. And knowing the reputation and character of noblemen in the story, Renly couldve joined in on the prank
@@endor8witchnot really, he made fun of her too, only kept her as a tool
Renly was a nice, kind guy who was simply over his head in being king during wartime. He might’ve been a good peace-time ruler
Bro he told Ned to call arms and storm the Keep. He was a focken player that got blindsided by some bull shit.
He had Robert’s knack for picking the best people to do what he cannot
@@carsoncasmirri3874 which is smart when it comes to being a ruler. you're supposed to have a general understanding of many a thing, but you need people of expertise in all the things you look over.
He wasn´t over his head, he would smashed Stannis and then captured Kings Landing without blood magic
He had superior numbers and support, he probably would've won if he hadn't been shanked by a demon.
This story perfectly proves that, Renly could be one hell of a good king. He even would have let the Northens to be an independent kingdom. He was much more sane and caring than the rest of the competing ones for the throne.
I agree apart from the Northerners part. He distinctly says he would let Robb STYLE himself King, much like the Martells are Princes and Princesses of Dorne, but still must swear fealty to the Iron Throne. He could've been a good king, he was more politically savvy than other kind kings (Viserys I for example) and he would've been Stannis' heir who was very unlikely to have a son.
@@songbird5842 TBH, Renly, Rob Starks and the Martells and perhaps also season 4 Daenerys, would make the perfect kings/queen for the seven kingdoms. They rule with fairness and generosity.
@@thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384 I like Robb but he was leading a terrible military campaign that was costing the lives and morals of many northmen. Also he would've had to sacrifice even more lives taking the north back from the Ironborn.
@@natemyers4946 I mean, you're not wrong but not right either. If Rob had taken some of the best solutions, he would win. For example, if he had married the girl that was promised to him or renounced to be the king in the North and instead allied with Renly or Stannis, he would have won easily.
No he wouldn't. He was just a little spoiled, ambitious cunt of usurper, who literally thought that only because HE thought himself better that Stannis led to a much more complicated war that it could have been
This is one of the most touching scenes of the show. Really made me like Renly a lot.
Renly has always seen Brienne’s talents. He made her a member of his Kingsguard because he saw her as a capable warrior.
The fact that Gwendoline Christie didn’t win an award for her portrayal of Brienne is a crime.
Learned early on if someone calls you ugly saying "I know" takes the wind out of their sails pretty quick. Still feels shitty, but at least you'll lose most hecklers.
Honestly, Brienne is my version of feminism, not Arya, not Cersei, Brienne. She still has that little fantasy, of being a “lady” and finding a good strong man that’ll love her for all that she is, but when she realized that perhaps it wasn’t in the cards for her, she stayed honorable to her ideals while also protecting the person who protected that “lady” fantasy. It’s not about revenge or becoming a “killer” but being honorable. Really wish Brienne and Arya could have had a relationship so she could teach her a thing or two smh
Ehh, I think this universe had many good examples of positive womanhood. Margery took advantage of the patriarchy by becoming everything that was expected from her while getting what she wanted, Sansa helped those she could with what little power she had by staying kind, Daenerys wanted to integrate and managed to make a loving marriage out of being sold, Olenna remained powerful despite her age by staying sharp, honestly, GRRM really knows how to write a great character.
The thing i like is that the characters are strong in their own ways. Catelyn and cersei were mothers but fierce as fuck. They worked towards their strengths as women instead of working against it. Brienne knew she wasn’t pretty so she learned how to fight. Still respect that cause she couldn’t follow the regular role.
I don't think anyone thinks Cersei represents an ideal version of feminism lmao
This is just typical premature masculinity. You see these W trying to uphold masculine ideas but they do it like boys. Like young boys that don't know better. They pick the largest character that beats up and kills the most people because they don't know what true strength is. And then they get dei hired and they think they've done it. They have no fucking idea
1:55 Gwendoline Christie’s expressions here kill me😂
I find it endearing that Renly gave her the same advice Tyrion gave Jon. Never let them see you bleed.
Get yourself a woman like Brienne. Rare breed
Even if youre a "sword swollower through and through"!
Brienne is like a goddess to me. She's so cute but fierce at the same time.
I feel like she needed to have this conversation with Arya, rather than Pod. She touches on themes relevant to Arya (ugliness, bullying) but also revenge.
Renly had the potential to at least be an adequate king with Olenna as his hand and Margeary by his side to tell him when he's being an idiot
I don’t think Olenna would have been his hand, she would have been the first female hand ever and while Renly might not have cared (he appointed Brienne into the Kings Guard after all), I don’t think the other lords would have accepted such an appointment.
It might not have been such a good idea anyway. Firstly I don’t think she was as great as people make her out to be and very old already and secondly the Tyrells would have become to powerful. Margeary would have been Queen, Maes although incompetent could barely be refused a council position after making Renly king and Renly would have surely put Loras into a powerful position, just to keep him around.
I think Randyll Tarly for example would have been a better and more likely choice.
stannis was the one true king of westeros. traitor.
@@BeWe1510 that's a really cool take on it tbh
@@MooseMeus and wound up dead anyways, funny how that happens.
I still feel sad when I see this clip.
Renly was just using the wrong blood pressure medication that's all.....
He was there! It was a joke!
Never in million years I would have expected a sopranos reference here
This dialogue makes a lot more sense in the books because in the books Brienne is incredibly ugly. She’s basically described as a mule on feet and I’m sorry but the actress who plays Brienne is NOT ugly you can cut her hair and not do her makeup but I’m sorry you look at her and you can tell underneath that armor she’s hot
I felt the same durring the scene. She does look very masculine but I guess they didn’t wanna hire an ugly actor to play her.
@@FredrikFazBjorn they do that with all the characters, in the books Tyrion is horribly deformed with like a slump and mismatched eyes and he’s described as grotesque, then the show Tyrion they get Peter Dinklage who’s just handsome
When actors might struggle to get any sort of role and they don't look as visually appealing as possible, I can see why the struggle exists.
I love when podrick is trying to be nice about his romantic interests and she gets annoyed. 😂
Man had Stannis and Renly squashed their Baratheon beef, they would've been an dynamic King and Hand duo regardless of whoever holds which position. Co-CEOs of you will but personally prefer Renly as King.
Their small council would've been dope too:
King Renly with Queen Margaery
Stannis as Hand
Davos as Master of Ships
Lord Commander Brienne or Loras
Mace Tyrell as Master of Laws
Varys as Spymaster
And maybe Doran for Master of Coin (Littlefinger would've been executed for treason)
Pycelle probs still has tenure though as Grand Maester
Renly and Stannis like Tywin and Tyrion would have been unstoppable together and would have won the game of thrones for their house, but just like Tywin couldn't love Tyrion neither Baratheon brother could put their ambition aside
Could have been a great king.
I don’t get why men wouldn’t want Brienne. This is a genetic gold mine. I’m 6’ 3, we’d make beautiful and tall babies…lol
Her and Tormund would have created the fiercest warriors in all of Westeros and quite possibly the world. With that kind of genetics for speed, strength, stamina, and size and nurtured with training at an early age it would have made warriors the size of a Clegane with the speed and stamina to be practically superhuman.
And kind hearts, stern sense of loyalty, and a jolly nature (inherited from Tormund). I wish she would’ve chosen him over Jaime 😒
Found Tormund
Brienne is much uglier in the books, like Tyrion.
i think in her region, she wasnt the ideal beauty standard. we see with the wildlings...she is definitely a wanted woman and she doesnt know how to cope with that as her whole life men dont find her attractive
Cries
Put the episode number on it
Why was pod not getting up in them guys?
Renly was a good man...he was just too proud and having House Tyrell on his side made him arrogant..
Why he didn’t just bend the knee and convince Stannis to make his heir, we’ll never know
@@brigidmadden5577 because he was a proud idiot
@@brigidmadden5577 1. He didn't want to; 2. It probably wouldn't change much, because there was no guarantee that his people would do the same after him, so no one would win of it afterall
Stannis is a military leader, not a politician. Also, Stannis converting to R'hllor is the last straw.
Renly was foolish but he wasn’t a joke. He didn’t have the wisdom to be king; he wouldn’t recognize how weak his claim to the throne was and probably believed he could make the whole world love him, yet all the while he couldn’t even make his own brother get behind him. If it wasn’t Stannis or Daenerys, I’m sure it would’ve been the leader of some other force who, having failed to be won over by his charm, wit, and good looks, would’ve done him in.
But still, despite that, there’s something very admirable about him. He knew what it was to be an outsider, he could have overcompensated and joined in the jeering, but instead, he empathized with those who were different and it cost him nothing to be compassionate. Some people are great because they can inspire greatness in others. Brienne trained and worked to be worthy of the honor she perceived Renly represented; she became a true embodiment of a knight. Through Brienne’s loyalty to him, Renly changed the course of history in Westeros.
If only he was king...
Episode?
@dbollman9036 Thank you!
High sparrow
Was robert really the king when renly met brienne?
the gays and the girlies
She was totally miscast for this role lol
Really can't relate to her being ugly because she's quite pretty
Dancing with Brienne turned Renly gay
Podrick really ruined Brienne's story 😂
He wasn't nice, he mocked brienne behind her back, he kept her because she was loyal
Nonsense, Renly was the best king, why the oldest son and not the best-fitted?
episode?