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Student surpassed the Senpai ? Jinshi vs Changli | Wuthering Waves
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
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Note: These are the Trial characters 😁
I can't tell if i should pull for Changli. What's your thoughts about her?
Changli is more future proof compared to Jinshi , so personally ill go for Changli . Although I would love to get both 😫😅
Mate hope we both can get her with an early pull🙏
@@pullformechangli is a mommy, im ready to pull
dont forget Jinshi needs a full team to abuse her power. without her forte guage being full her nukes hit like a wet noodle and take wayy longer to fill. every unit so far has their positives and negatives.
@puffyj9438 Jue the wet noodle 😂👍🏻
Isn't a very good representation of how Jinhsi plays. She's very reliant on off-field coordinated attacks to increase her Incandescence stacks. Changli's kit is very self reliant. I get that it's just a showcase for trial characters but it doesn't really show what Jinhsi's actually capable of.
And exactly at this point, you already saw the first difference between them, thanks to the video. As you already mentioned, Jinshi needs a second team-mate to show her full potential and changli can do it without one. Of course you can't show everything in trials, but at least you can get a first impression and that's all this video is supposed to show. No hardcore gameplay min max building blabla. Good pulls if you are planning on pulling Changli👍🏻
So as Changli, as you can see Changli didnt use other char to pull those damages she dealt, its fair, how much more if you compose a good team for Changli.
@@sieltina88it isn’t necessarily fair or accurate because the damage 1 single character makes won’t necessarily go up a lot with other units, for example lion boy is still inaccessible to support who buff him a lot. Jinhsi can get a lot from Verina and Yinlin increasing her numbers massively. Not sure what Changli’s main damage source is, but we have to see how much she can actually gain from other characters in terms of damage. This can create a misconception for people thinking Changli’s a better unit because she did it faster and the reality could be she does way less than Jinhsi in a full team + echos environment.
@@Alecemito actually in my eyes changli definitely like a dps and jinshi is burst one. ofc it makes jinshi with a team definitely faster than changli...
@@fletarious yeah definitely both are DPS and I’m glad they both play differently. Compared to the previos units we had on released and the next 2 banners after them, both seem on a whole different power level and I feel neither can be skipped lol. I can’t wait to also get Changli and experiment what’s good for her.
She's fire, im going to get her for sure. Main reason being the sound design and the abilities.
Your will is strong. So your pulls will be👍🏻
She would be for sure a nice fusion main and support dps..
Yup fire like litteraly fire is her element😂
So jinshi deals big damage in burst where as changli does more dmg overtime (at least with these builds) I have Jinshi and just have to win the 50/50 for Changli!
but jinhsi need someone to build her stack (main source of dmg) otherwise changli can easily outdame jinshi
That sums it up well.
BTW good pulls buddy 🌠👏🏻
@@pullforme Ty!
@@pullforme You too!
@@thanhluong6491 Just use Jinhsi's outro skill then farm within 20 secs and tada
I'm going to try to pull Changli. If I lose the 50/50, I could still guarantee her, but It would drain my asterites. I'm mainly interested in Phrolova or Camellya, which neither appear to be coming in 1.2. (Supposedly, 1.2 will be Zhezhi and Xiangli Yao)
That sounds like a good plan. Camellya .. be careful with her. The crazy/hot scale should alert your 5 senses 😂
I got her in 45 pity
Changli be like: "You're great and growing stronger each day, but I'm still faster than you Hsi."
I mean why not, changli's her teacher
I was abt to cry when i lost my 50/50 on jinshi but after i met changli suddenly i dont feel bad losing the 50/50
Sound like a Hollywood movie :D
Always see the positive after something negative happens. 👍🏻
I lose 50/50 on my Jinshi at 70 pity and keep pulling, total it took me 200 fkn pull to get Jinshi and her weapon
So sad but I did not regret it, she is so fun, much more than I expected and I have high expectation
You'll be happy about getting changli in the short term but long term when you reach endgame you'll regret it lol
Why?@@ap7625
@@pullformeulol gago haha
I've been wanting to pull for Jinshi but decided to wait for her rerun banner and save for Changli instead.
You embody the most important attitude for everyone in gacha games. -Patience-
Good pulls for Changli🌠🙏
i was about to pull for changli but they release zhezhi info and i'm skipping changli for a new support, my verina need to rest
Same
I mean that boss is also resistant to the light element so it not really a fair test.
The video is obviously biased, he's doing it solo so jinshi can't even use her main source of DMG and on a counter boss loo
*glacio resistant 🙏
Changli could've been even faster had you consumed her forte circuit first before using your resonance liberation because her RL fully charges her forte circuit upon use so you couldve gotten 2 procs of it instead of 1
☝🏻
Don't worry, jinshi is played so wrongly here + that boss is resistant to Spectro damage by a lot.
apparently, there's also a faster way of gaining stacks for Changli by using the Aerial Truesight attack, which skip to Basic 3 in the Combo String, both midair and ground. (can use the Aerial Truesight one when pressing "jump" instead of "LMB" while grounded)
That's sound interesting 👍🏻 ty for the tip
Man i like zinshi play style and changli design.
@Daddy_Of_Haruwu did you already tried to pull jinshi :D?
@@pullforme yea i couldn't resist the dragon playstyle. And it was definitely worth it . I'm sweating now cuz I've almost no funds for changli 😂😂😂
Its sad that changli's res skill and her true sight is not an i-frame skill like danjin heavy attack, so her combo easily got interrupted 😢
They want you to pull for c1. For the anti stagger ability
Swap cancel it lol.
her c1 give interrupted resistance
@@N.biebie8428 yes I know but interupt res can still got attacked but danjin heavy attack give her an i frame. Thats what im talking about.
@@rifansaputra7240 She gets 40% dmg res during forte, with the turtle it's 90%, I don't think you can be killed with that much dmg res.
Time stops when Jinhsi uses her big nuke and ult, she relies on teammates for stack build up. Chang Li however looks fine as solo carry
Jinhsi can solo carry better tho
That's why you use YuanWu so u can go ham. Put the pillar and go monkey.
Well ChangLi is 5 stars Danjin exactly 1 to 1 except hp loss
@@satoriryusuke Jinshi need characters with coordinated attacks like yuanwu and verina, she can't fill her stacks by herself. changli doesn't need other characters to stack her forte bar.
I like jinshi she does big damage everytime I ult and use her skills, the only thing that bothers me is she need teammates to stack her forte bar, now I'm kinda forced to use yuanwu for her stacks since he's the unit that can fill her forte the fastest
You should compare when that boss not have the crystal, i see most time Jinhsi always use her E on the crystal, while changli need time to stack her Forte and you use her Forte right in time the crystal gone, cant know who could clear boss healbar when you couldnt notice about crystal
*Crystal reduce your damage
Def ignore won this, and 1 jinhsi nuke hit the shield. They are equal
rover is the dragon master
Jinshi is alot stronger than her in a full team
The game surprisingly setup the game really well. 3 of the first 5 limited is someone to built the team easily.
Jiyan Mortefi +Supp/heal
Jinshi Yuanwu +Supp/heal
But also luxury Sub-DPS Yinli, that might go well with how fast Chang Li hits. Then again i dont know how good the reality is.
got both jinshi is powerless on her own while Changli excels on soloing on her own
Woahhh Finally someone make a comparison. Thank you
This isn't how you supposed to play Jinhsi lol
@@Bbiee0808Out of pure curiosity, how are you supposed to play her then?
@@HumanInDisguise she's a more team unit dmg, she needs coordinated attacks from her teammates to deal more dmg, so basically I think she will be better than changli with a full team rather than alone.
@@HumanInDisguise basically if u play genshin it's like using a character that uses elemental reactions, they shine with their team, rather than alone
@@YnSuho Oooh got it ! So she’s more of a team reliant character huh, thanks.
Jinhsi struggling to build forte guage hurts this showcase a lot, but also the jinhsi is more well built than the changli in my opinion. 26% crit rate is awful, leading to more RNG in the showcase for damage output.
I believe Changli out dps' Jinhsi mathematically with equivalent build quality due to a much more consistent dps output, better use of field time, and kit speed. Jinhsi with proper support however (looking at you yinlin, zhezhi) has dps when setting up which helps, where changli doesn't have that option particularly, albeit she really doesn't need it.
I pulled both, damage wise Jinshi is like x2 higher. if you have the unit to maximize the stacks. Like Jinshi Damage is just on another level But no grouping or what not.
Changli damage is fairly decent, i'd say it's on the level of Yinlin even if she's like hyper carry dps she deals great. SHe works insanely well with burst swapping. basically burst combo and swap to another unit like Havoc MC and burst again.
Lost very early (15 pulls) to Encore to Jinhsi's banner. I could still go on because I was gonna try to get them both but now I'm just aiming for S1 Changli! She just seems more fun to play. I don't really care much about the nuke.
Well... Jinshi is kinda must pull I blv. I too wanted to get Chang li. Still saving for her. But jinshi is just so much fun to play. I can't imagine wuwa without her. She is strongest.
@@prashantKumar-te9ce I have her on my alt and I don't regret not having her on my main. Good for you to have fun with her though!
@@rhianx cool. I've only one account so, I wanna have all resonators
Time to change Fire Teams/Assault Teams, FNW. Jinxi in FT/AT 1 and Changli for FT/AT 2.
That's because you didn't use jinhsi Echoes
Jinshi need support to make her concerto for high dmg. If u want to compare make them with best team n build
Nahh.. i smell some issues 😆
I wanma save for xiangli yao. That guy looks so good. Idk if im gonna skip changli or not
Uff he looks interesting, maybe he will be a glacio/pistol character? You still have plenty of time to decide, mate :D
@@pullforme yeah I'll wait for the livestream, if he is free, I'll get Changli
@@Aeterin It would be insane if Kuro gave us Xiangli for free 🤩
@@pullforme ikr as you said bro gives off Ayanokouji vibes and I love him.
Also hope kuro doesn't give him out cuz I need my husbando for me 😭😭
they are giving him for free and he is a gauntlet user@@pullforme
My opinion :
Jinshi : main dps but must with full team
Changli : sub dps almost same like yinlin
I lost the 50/50 for Jinshi but I love Changli so I'll just get her and then save for Cammelya. I don't care much about pure dpses either as everything can be cleared no matter what. Clear speed is the only thing they offer whereas sub-dpses and supports can make more teams useful in the future
Jinhsi with the eletric uncle full her circuit so damage fast and the damage of his lvl 4 ressance would be 4-5x bigger. In a team, jinshi is better, solo is changli. if we always play with a team, jin is the better pick.
Gonna pull Changli until my saving drained, because i don't get her in FGO, IT'S YOU KOYANSKAYA
Jinshi will have to wait. I have my priorities
I think it would’ve been better if you purposely wasted Jinhsi 3rd skill damage to build more stacks. Maybe 2 rotations at least because she’s gonna do no damage this way 😂 This is an accurate representation of how not to play Jinhsi though, useful for knowing how low her damage is if not played accurately.
no way shes a Sword user ugh tho its good since we have a f2p option
Yeah! Say hello to my Emerald of Genesis Senpai Changli :D
I thought that big ass sword have huge spectro res, now do changli and jinshi on inferno rider
Ain't that elite glacio??
This enemy is resisten spectro lol😂
If you want to spar,in glacio boss lol😂
@@ariegepenk8818its glacio resistance 40%, have you check the enemy stats ?
Spectro and fusion same have res 10%
@@ariegepenk8818 it's ice ress lol .
imo Jinhsi ez can 200-300k dmg with upgrade E, but put full party for full scale
Yea lol if in full party with coordinated attack she will one shot this boss
😂😂😂
When's changli banner's date??? I'm happy to lose my 50/50 on jinshi lmao
after jinshi banner end
The 21th of July.
@@enanoiii thank youuuu
@@yotadinz270 aye2 thankss
changli better is what it is
Spectro RES
Aint that mob got spectro res tho? No idea if that hardens the posture break tho
I saw Chanli and I am the fastest would beat The Flash with the record i set!
Kuro just pls give us a support to replace Verina. This is a dps 😂😂
Bad display of changli damage. In this trial she only has less than 30% crit rate, while jinshi had almost 50% crit rate so of course changli would flop this no matter how many tries. It's clear Kuro intended to showcase jinshi here rather than changli, to cater the players who want to pull for jinshi.
However, the game may not be easy like genshin, it's still a single player game with farmable stuff to make everyone stronger. Eventually, you can use anyone to clear any content, like how people are soloing bosses using chixia. Pull for whoever you want, that's how you play by using the definition of playing, which is having fun.
Changli won btw .
I somehow got jinhsi s4 so ill skip lol
Bro, you finished the game 🎮 ✅️ 😄
Good job with your pulls!👏🏻
I want changli
Event changli wrong combo and she still win
That shit
Jinhsi also has wrong combo, dont take this video as comparison lol
Make a test where u dont use her specific pasive talent xD love that one sided comparision
what specific passive talent
@@yotadinz270Jinhsi needs coordinated attacks to charge her forte gauge, therefore better damage.
changli dps, jinhsi burst dmg
I had started saving after Jiyan. I had won my 50-50. So today i pulled for Jinshi and lost my 50-50. And pulled varina (who i didnt have yet) I still have enough to guarantee changli and i gotta admit im pretty hyped. I might use my ticket for Encore . Not sure yet on that though 😅
The trial jinshi is just the worst thing i ever seen my jinshi just c1 r1 makes minimum 110k ultimate by herself at full forte that one did 12k? Like really 😆
No one play jinhsi solo bro😂
Jenshi combat is more badass lmao
Plsss quest name??
Me parece que ahi Jinhsi esta en una gran desventaja, debido a que las habilidades solo estan mejoradas al lv.3 y sabemos que jinhsi es la unica que le conviene tener un mayor nivel por el multiplicador de daño
So basically Changli is better at soloing while jinshi cant live without yuanwu/yinlin/verina/mortefi. Got it
Bro compare main and sub dps…
Changli is a main dps same with jinhsi. Changli outro is the only thing that makes her like a sub dps, while the main kits are more a main dps role
@@ajcafe1890 Why the fck did I get uncore then?!
@@user-jl2bw7db4q that's a question for you need to ask yourself
What is Changli's quick swap potential? Idc about meta I just slap dps together and quickswap
Not that insane, she needs a lot of field time ,like basic 4, to stack and burst. SHe needs stacks which is kinda unfortunate unlike Yinlin where you only need to "MARK" enemies. SHe's a hybrid dps but leaning towards more in on fields dps.
And Jinshi supposed to be DPS while Changli is a more like Sub-Dps
Edit:Guys,yes I know Changli is like Yinlin who can be DPS at the same time but Jinshi is more DPS focused that’s why I commented that.I don’t need to be reminded like 20 times lol
That's what the combat roles tells us, but i bet people will use changli also as a dps😊 She looks strong and ez to use at the first sight.
@@pullforme Yeah,I’ll also put her with Yinlin if I can win the 50/50
Both are DPS, also in this showcase Jinhsi doesn't have anyone to provide her stacks,which is her main source of dmg.
Changli seems more selfish in that regard since she can do big damage on her own
Changli ain't a sub-dps, her whole kit screams main dps, besides the outro skill which is the only thing that resembles a sub-dps in her
she's a main dps with sub-dps outro.
I mean,,, jinshi had no one to up her forte 😭 thats like her whole thing
That's not a fair comparison since jinhsi's damage are built with your support when Changli deals her damage herself and isn't dependant of building stacks through some exterior factors!
Still, both are very good and very strong 🙏
I disagree that this comparison is not fair. Both start with full Forte Circuit. Both do damage themselves, no outro or intro is used. People would even scream if both didn't have full Forte etc because it's easier to get full Forte with Changli than Jinshi. But i agree that both are very strong 💪
@@pullformeYo si considero que es injusta porque está demasiado mal buildeada la jinshi, un personaje cuyo núcleo es el daño crítico a gran escala de su habilidad resonancia, con 150% de daño crítico que es el base y 40% de prob? Changli cuyo núcleo es bufearse a si misma y atacar continuamente es claro que tendrá una ventaja con esas stats
Wait, this doesn't really matter, since you can build supports for Changli too. Can't agree with this since both could could do more damage. Even if she's better with supports, it shouldn't be that big of a difference. They may be close in terms of potential, but Changli is probably a bit stronger.
you need to continuously build up jinhsi's forte stack with coordinated atk not just once, jinhsi isn't built for solo battle
@@pullforme60% dmg jonsji its forte, without forte she is weak
No offense, but this is a horrible showcase. From the crit ratio to the echos, this doesn’t depict very well their capabilities.
Changli may look like powerful here but we all know that Jihnsi is not meant for solo but understandable because Changli is not meant for Dps anyway so fair fight.
Chang li is main dps.
Even kuro said it in the description of chang li role is main dps.
This video very good comparision to compare damage , no use echo, no use team , that mean it compare the true damage and potential of the unit.
@@-IGRIS- then it will become useless comparision since there's many factor, team, substat echo and other.
If you want to compare dps, then you should not use team, no echo, so it will tell you that who is better damage dealer.
Mr igris the einstein clown
In China, they even complain that Changli's strength is far inferior to Jinxi's. Are they crazy?
I mean lore wise changli is jinshi teacher
She was ... They buffed her skill and forte and sword.
that means changli deals more dmg ?
hard to tell since jinhsi does dmg with her forte from coordinated attacks. I hope she is good cuz im passing on jinhsi weapon to pull for her.
@@Ausku_24jinshi is like eula but meta big nuke dmg and changli is like hu Tao but with more consistent dmg
I don’t think so, this jinhsi deals no dmg compared to mine with a decent echo set, I have dealt 100k+ with the skill so neither character has reached full potential in this demonstration. Just pick whoever you like more as they seem comparable
Edit: I didn’t watch the whole vid before commenting and the builds for both characters are hot garbage also, jinhsi wasn’t getting her forte up, therefore not reaching her max damage
@@anormalhumanbeing.3838 the characters in the video are around lvl 50 they are made equal in the eyes of the devs so that u can try them not made for performance...
Each character has his own modifiers so ofc it isnt a clear representation but it is better then having none.
Also if u look at the video which u said u watched but i dont think so, both characters start with max forte and ult and jinhsi does 12400 dmg with a crit and 1900 without a forte bar. Another thing is Changli's ult takes more time to charge so if they started from scratch i dont think changli had time to use her ultimate at all and the fight would have a similar ending.
@@Ausku_24did they released the official multiplier for changli's kit?
Tbh the comparison wasn't practical at all.. because not only it's trial characters.. they're not with a team either
Sherlock enters the room🕵♂️
This aint even a fair comparison of whose stronger and how could you even call this comparison? This is purely just looking at animations. Comparison means using the absolute kit of the characters which clearly in this "comparison video" is not. Why not understand the kits of these characters first before making vids like this.
Everything here was done wrong
Why is changli played so stupidly
Why is jinhsi fighting wing spectro res enemy
Just wrong comparison
Glacio Res Enemy
brother i think u should refrain from speaking, what other comparison can be done with the trial characters?
@@Ausku_24 well for starters atleast use changli forte skill then ult then forte skill again
Use jinhsi normal combo until dragon puke nuke
@@arcanegorgonus
In reality, that's what he was trying to do, he didn't continue his combo just due to dodging twice but that doesn't change much, because after dodging, you have 2 hits to which you can chain with the aerial combo. (so small loss of DPS and some optimization there that could have saved him 5s)
On the Changli side, yes, it's true, he could have done this sequence which is more effective to have a total stack after the release
I think that the result does not change, but does not prove that Changli > Jinshi, because Jinshi is a main DPS depending enormously on his team for his resonator recharge and in this condition, there can be a change
@@arcanegorgonus i dont know the exact combo on changli since i dont have her and i dont care until then but he seems to do what u said also from the jinshi part i dont see any problem with the video its a perfect combo
Changli cleared faster? Probably this thing has increased spectro resistance
Don’t take this seriously guys, Jinhsi with a full team will do significantly better than Changli as she’s a sub dps. This is not a fair comparison, it’s like comparing Alhaitham vs Wanderer. Of course Wanderer will do better solo duh even though Alhaitham is a top 3 Genshin’s DPS and Wanderer is not even close.
Nah you're misleading players with your so called "first impression". This isn't how you supposedly play Jinhsi. If Changli can solo sure, but Jinhsi brought more DPS ceiling than her with bare minimum increase in stack, take note of that.
Ok, what? One is a main dps, and the other isn't so...
put changli in an encore team. Even so, changli is still an amazing sub dps.
changli can be used as a main dps or sub dps her kit is a first so far
Chang li is main dps.
In encore team, chang li become main dps, while encore is sub dps
Bro u used Jinshi wrong
Tell us more. I don't get your point.
the way he/she used jinshi is correct
Idk if you got to this point in the story but you cant change the characters in this trial.
@-IGRIS- But I did the showcase on purpose without intro, outro, other teammates etc. Just a simple showdown between Jinshi and Changli.
I get your point 👍🏻 but it's not what I wanted to showcase. However it's a good topic when changli will be released.