The Indonesian guy who conned experts with fine wine was more than just a con artist. He actually knew his wine very well (he had to in order to fool other experts at auction houses). He was also a unofficial master blender who created blends of other wines to match the taste of the wines he forged. He didn't just have to fool the bottles and labels but had to fool the palettes of seasoned professionals and auction houses. This is not something a run of the mill con-artist can pull off. He was a genuine expert in wine who became a counterfeiter. But if your counterfeit wine taste as good as the real thing ya got to give him SOME credit.
while you are correct in general with your statement, he fooled wine drinkers at drinking parties who were pounding down bottles of wine and were drunk and burned out their pallete, so they had no ability to detect his blends. No auction house "sampled" the wine they were selling of his. He mostly used authentic bottles he refilled.
Maybe he did, but you didn't. If you think that at these events people (experts) drink so much wine that they are very drunk, you are wrong.... Of course, this varies from person to person, but here we are talking about wine taster. You can't just drink wine and be on the floor in 1 hour. 🙂 Wine taster is your job. It might look like they're getting full drunk, but from a taster perspective, it's a their job. If someone drinks wine for many years (at work or later in their free time), they can drink much more wine than someone who doesn't drink before they get drunk. • How much wine do you get in a wine tasting? "An average wine tasting is around 60mL and is generally enough for you to be able to take 3-4 sips of the wine. Remember you are not truly tasting a wine on the 1st and 2nd sips as these just enable your palate to adjust to the acids and tannins and for your mouth to be coated in the new beverage (you’ve probably tasted a few wines in the previous few minutes if you are doing a standard 6 - 8 wine tasting in a 30-40 minute." "So the 3rd - 4th sip is when you’re actually tasting the wine, and this is taken into account when the portion is poured. Your sommelier is also taking into account the NSW RSA (Responsible Service of Alcohol) laws and restricting each pour to around 60 - 90mL." • Are you supposed to spit out wine at a wine tasting? "No and in the age of covid19 (2023 and beyond), the act of “spitting” is definitely a “no no”. While this may have been acceptable in the past, most cellars in the Hunter will ask you to leave if you do this due to the unsanitary nature of this practice in the new Covid Safe world that we live in." • Do you have to endure drinking all of a tasting portion if you don’t like the wine? Absolutely not and it is quite acceptable to tip the remaining portion of the wine in your tasting glass into the spittoon (this is it’s modern purpose in 2023), just don’t “spit” into it. "Other people may feel that they have “had enough” and wish to slow down their alcohol consumption and just taste the first 1-2 sips and discard the rest." "Wine can be tasted without drinking it! The flavor and structure of wine can be determined by holding it in one's mouth and switching it around for a couple of seconds before spitting it out without ever having to be consumed." • "Today I want to help you learn how to stop DRINKING wine and start tasting wine. You might swirl it around, smell it a bit, and take a sip. You determine that you like it or dislike it, but that’s about it. You’re not making your brain work too hard to think about what exactly it is that you’re tasting and why you like or dislike it. And because of that, you’re not doing yourself any favors if you are interested in becoming a better wine taster" The rabbit hole continues deeper from here.... but to continue to copy/paste the text would be pointless because there is a lot of information. My answer is that it's better to check first before writing nonsense, especially if you don't know the people/person at all. If they tasted wines at the beginning, and then much later, they were drunk. This does not change their results shared/written about the wines.
@@dchubworldsharenetwork many of those duped by this guy, explained in interviews what I exactly explained. the get tipsy from their drinking parties and makes it tough to judge after a while.
I make my own, in a bucket, at home, experimenting with different fruit & spice additives. Friends, family & neighbours love it. $3.00 to $6.00 per bottle cost (includes price of bottles & corks). I will go to dinner parties and put unlabelled bottles (German White & Italian Red) in with all the high end offerings displayed. Eventually someone gets curious and opens them. Then the fun begins, several wine snobs standing around sniffing, swirling, tasting, spitting. They analyze, dissect the flavours, give their learned opinions & then start guessing the country, winery, age. At some point when I announce the wine came from a kit, purchased for around $100.00 they want to argue. "no way" "can't be done" "You must have blended it with expensive wine" These are Rudy's people, lol. I understand the entertainment value he must have gotten from this scam because it sure is fun. If it tastes good, Drink It. If it tastes bad, Don't.
Sold wine for 5 years in South Florida with National Distributing Company. Wine is and has always been a subjective taste. Everybodies taste buds are different. Having tried about 100 different wines up to $60 a bottle the ones I bought were between $8 to $13 with a few around $15. It does not matter what it says on the label, it only matters if you enjoy it. I will tell you the larger wineries are usually very aggressive with growing distribution and sales. Just because these wines are everywhere does Not mean they are any better or worse than another varietal from another winery. What ever type or brand you like keep enjoying.
I'm an Australian and was a white and red wine drinker for many years. I hardly drink at all now. I'm not a wine snob, but I know what I like and don't like. I can not say I have enjoyed drinking Yellow Tail products though I have bought and tried it. Australia has many cheap high-quality wines, both, white and red. More recently a good wine can be had for 15 to 20 dollars. My best buy was a broken dozen of 2000 Chateau Mouton Rothschild (eleven bottles). I paid $37.50 per bottle. I sold all of them for $120 a bottle in 2001 They can now be bought in Melbourne for AU2750 per bottle. Too rich for me at 120 a bottle!
@@paulsz6194 Have you ever watched an international flight review? (Sam Chui etc) ...it's weird to watch a flight attendant gently and carefully pour a wine into a glass, and seen that same wine in the local dairy for about ten dollars.
@@SiliconBong yes, I prefer non stop Dan, or Josh Cahill, as they pay for their own flights, so their reviews are completely independent. I’ve also seen Krug Champagne get poured on Emirates First class flights . How much can you buy Krug for, by the way?
Working sommelier here. You want a solution to this problem? Don’t buy your wine from the supermarket! Go to wine shops (and be surprised to not find any brands you find in the supermarket there (for the most part) Wine shops have experienced and passionate people running them that you can speak to and stock honest wines that are generally not mass produced on the scale that wines found in supermarkets typically are, so you can discover the real wine world and what it has to offer, and you can find amazingly delicious wine at most price points. Generally, wine does increase in quality as the price increases, and there are many factors and variables in this, and yes there can be exceptions (and that quality to price ratio does start to plateau at some point). I think we need to stop assuming that expensive wine is for chumps, because at the end of the day, we can’t all be an expert in every field, so yes I appreciate and enjoy what more expensive wine can have to offer, but if you’re a casual wine drinker who isn’t particularly into wine on some kind of nerdy level, then just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s for chumps. There are plenty of fields im not an expert in and therefore don’t appreciate enough to spend more money on, wine just doesn’t happen to be one of them.
@@hpdpco6634so why are you here? Jesus turned water into wine and drank some of the wine himself at the Marriage feast where did miracle . Does that make him pretentious??
there is definitely alot of marketing to try to convince the consumer that generally basic wines have some sort of special qualities, lately it has been alot of eco friendly marketing to make you feel good about buying a particular brand, nothing about the actual quality of the wine
I fix and sell scales. Believe me when a poultry is packaging chickens they use different brand plastic for shops and some in their brand plastic and those chickens have different prices and customers they will tell you how good those different brands are but they are the same batch of chicken from the same poultry.
Dude, OMG, if you think there is no difference between Two Buck Chuck and a well crafted wine put together by a wine maker that knows what they are doing . . . I can't help you. You are on your own. Doesn't necessarily mean it has to be expensive, but there is a difference.
The wine industry is quite unregulated, the quality assertions are laughable: Controlled, Controlled and guaranteed, etc.I tried a few expensive wines and couldn’t taste a difference to good cheap wines. Now my motto is: Try all the cheap wines, there you‘ll find some gems. Then try the little more expensive ones, and you’ll find some diamonds. Result: I usually pay about 3-4 Euros for excellent wines.
It's good for you that you like 3 or 4 euro bottles of wine. But saying that are excellent.... You should probably limit yourself saying that "you really like them"... 3 or 4 euros wines are systematically rubbish, as much as McDonald's is. You want to know why? I'm not going to explain that.... Just go work 1 year in a winery from start to end of the process, you'll understand. Otherwise people should stop being so opinionated and ve more open to things they ignore
@@Skipnamethistime You‘re right from a business standpoint, it‘s probably rubbish wine if it can be sold for below 5 Euros. But it‘s true for my palate: When I won a 500 Euro-coupon a year ago at my grocery store, I bought a bottle for 50 Euros. Me and my wife couldn’t make out why it was so expensive. There are a lot of mediocre wines at 7-10 Euros in Germany, and also some good ones in that range. But to buy wine, we drive over the border to France and they have good wines in the 3-4 Euro range.
Here in Canada I tend to like wine that's around $20. Anything I've had that's more expensive wasn't as good as some of the $20 bottles. Anything under $15 is gross, except a few Italian wines. Best wine I've ever had was homemade. Had a nice sweet wine taste, then distinctly chocolate, then butter.
I don’t pay over $15 for a bottle of wine. $30 or $60 bottles are no better and just a waste of money. Trader Joe’s has great lower cost wines. I knew a French restaurateur who retired and saw him in Trader Joe’s with a cart full of $8.00 French red wine for himself!
The thing is that wine of the highest quality only costs so much to produce that it sells for a couple hundred dollars a bottle. There is no real difference in quality between wines costing hundreds and wines costing thousands. You can't fill an empty bottle of DRC with cheap wine and pass it off as the real thing, but if you did that with another top tier wine from Burgundy that costs 10% as much as DRC, basically anyone who tastes it wouldn't know he is being swindled. When people spend thousands of dollars on a bottle they are paying mostly for the label.
The problem with specialty wine stores, which I have been to many, in many countries is simple, it’s to make big bucks from the unsuspecting customers. Supermarkets all round the world have made a serious dent in the profits of these wine specialty stores. I still go to these ‘pretentious’ wine stores with sometimes very pretentious staff, just to buy specialty wines and liquors. But I enjoy checking out supermarkets often, why? They are not pretentious, they experiment with all sorts of wines including “Yellow Tail”, which I will be getting a bottle of Shiraz soon for my lamb BBQ this Sunday, today.
I mean, you've got to admire the guy a little bit - mixing cheap vines to match a specific profile is kind of an art. A tea maker of a little local brand I know used to say that the best tea technologists work for lipton and other cheap supermarket brands. Takes a lot of knowledge to produce the same taste year after year after year. Bad taste of course but still
I saw a demo about 6 years ago on TV in Europe, how to make fake wine, and it is sold all over the continent, coming mainly from Italy. He did on the front of a panel and cameras. Ingredients: Purified water, flavor/color powder (artificial), alcohol. He mixed it, let it stand for a few minutes, and let them look at it and taste it. Conclusion by the panel: Tastes, looks like cheap, low quality, a bit "off", but real wine. You think that stuff is not here? Think again...
@@theboringchannel2027 It's likely put into real wines as well - to increase the volume. If it's put in at say, 10, 15%, the vast majority of people will not even notice the adulteration...
No. It's all a myth. Wine powder does exist but it is too expensive compared to cheap natural stuff. The cheap wine is made from "grape mass" left over after making juice and jams, with some additives. But not from some powder.
most $10 wines and under are crap some decent stuff in the $30-50 range better stuff in the 80-100 range, and the value tops out once you spend more than $200 for a bottle
This is not the first scandal many others have preceded this one. Wine is a question of the food you eat WITH the wine. Same goes for other “luxury “ products, banking on the fools who are willing to buy them, if they can afford them or not. Just use your common senses.😅😅😅😅😅😅
In Spain, in adition to realy good and unexpensive wines, we also have an independent guide named "Supervinos" (Superwines), it is, high ratio qualification wines which you can buy in supermarkets from €6 to 15 a bottle.
Yeah, this video is nonsense. I've had great wines that were affordable and mediocre wines that were expensive. But Yellow Tail is manufactured and chemically. If that's what you like, go for it, but price isn't the reason I avoid it.
Guys, stop being dramatic, this is not a scam.... Not talking about the Rudy's case in particular, but wine industry is not necessarily a scam. A business has to make profit wether is who makes it or who sells it. Then, nowadays people for some reason expect services to be something available for free or low price to everyone, like a birthright, but reality is that we're all living way above what real life should be (look at countries debts). Businesses like supermarkets, restaurants, etc...have costs. If they offer certain bargain prices with certain things, they have to get the money from somewhere else. Turns out some people are willing to spend from "a lot" to "unlimited" amount of money to buy wine, and that's on THEM, and them only. No law obliges nobody to buy expensive things or luxury services. You don't want to waste your money? Set yourself your honest budget for something, example 10 dollars for a bottle of wine, and just stick to it. No one obliges tou to buy things you don't understand. This is NOT a scam. Rudy's case... Is selling a piece of leather or cotton with a brand on it very different from what he did? People decides to buy those things to show how wealthy ( and superficial, and dumb) they are. So again, it's on them.
@@thyristo why? You want to pay wine less than 3 dollars? Because you can definitely find many wines on that range... You want to buy clothes at 2 dollars? There's plenty.... Why would I be the idiot and not who spends 150k on a handbag or 10k on a bottle of wine....
Years ago, in my youth, I saw a ''Help Wanted'' sign on a North Beach wine shop in San Francisco. I walked in and meekly asked for a job application from the counter salesman. He replied: ''You don't understand, young man''. "Please present your CV''. The shop is still there...over 50 years later. And no...I drink beer. HaHa!
While the video is made very well, i am very critical about the assumptions. And start with mine, believing the author is US american. And many of the viewers also. Sorry to say that but besides of BBQ US has no taste and food culture. I am still shocked by your Fastfood culture and nit cooking at home with fresh ingrediences. You have sugar and corn sirup everywhere, destroying all food sences.. Yes i know there are nice restaurants abd many who love to eat nice stuff - but the average US american is eatibg lower quality food. And it shows. The fraud has mostly nothing to do with wine tastings, because mixing bad wine into an evening after the taster had already some bottles just shows that beeing drunk makes dull. This chinese scammer had possibly money from chinese CCP and was money laundering. Besides that, stop eating cheap trash, cheap chips with bad ingredience. Buy locally and not in Walmart and all of this big chemical plants called Hypermarkets and teach your taste. Detox from all if this ugly stuff you eat. It also destroys your stomach. People who are not able to produce and eat good bread, can not be taken serious about "tasting wine". This is ment as serious criticism to grown people, not dumb internet bashing. I too drink also cheam 12 euro wines sometimes, but the 30 to 60 wines are waaay better like the difference between cheap meat and meat from cows who where well fed and slaughtered by professiobal butchers. But you have to cultivate the tounge and your bacteria in you to taste it and dissolve the food/drinks productive and positively. Besides that, thank you for the interesting video. It is underrated. AI voices shoild be used as seldom as possible.
unless your in the winery/growers business, absolutely nothing in your snobby comment makes any sence.....there are many 5 star resturaunts and world class cellars in the USA, just because your to impoverished to know about them is your loss😳🤯, there is extreme luxury an dquality in the USA.... but YOU would have to find it, as far as fast food, you act as though usa people are like screaming how delicious and incredible tastey mcdonalds is!! everyone knows mcdonalds is junk and doenst taste like 5 stars...🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️, instaed of being a snob , educate yourself, save some money , visit the USA and find some "haute cuture"
40plus years rest/hosp ind., mostly bar. Wine and tasting it as a server was all French when I started. When California came into industry they had to build their reputation. Customers weren’t biting and would snobbish reject it! French only French! Worked in 5 star resorts and many years. It really is a snotty business. Much ado about grapes! I’m a retired bartender now over 35 yrs, not up on the sales of wine, yet I can promise, they all STILL do the same thing they’ve done for years-surplus crops mass bottled but hype it as the latest blahblahblah! If you drink a glass and love it BUY IT! Unless you’re serving bartenders, servers and sommelier’s’ chances are they won’t know difference between really good, excellent or crap!!! Trust! 🙏🏻🤔🤭
It has always been true that the emporer was naked . The aristocratic class around him fell for it through collusion and fear of being deemed not sofisticated enough.
Thing is... Yellowtail wines suck and are undrinkable if you know just a little little of wine. And if you make a group of 10 Masters of Wine blind taste 100 different wines of different price ranges, you can bet there'll be a huge correlation between price and quality. Making a video about the wine industry being a scam and ending up talking about the virtues of yellowtail it's a joke, to be honest. What it's a scam is paying x5 the price in a restaurant.
That is generally a good point, but it does not take into account that sometimes, after a certain age, roles change, and it is the role of the son to help out.
This video is a lame over simplification concerning fine wines and "cheap" wines, wine experts, etc. and the phenomenon of exclusivity, a niche that doesn't work like others.
There’s no such thing as 'stealing a story.' I’m simply telling a story to make a point, and this doesn’t take anything away from the documentary itself-if anything, it may encourage more people to check it out. Also, just to clarify, the video isn’t about stealing wine. 🤷♂️
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The Indonesian guy who conned experts with fine wine was more than just a con artist. He actually knew his wine very well (he had to in order to fool other experts at auction houses). He was also a unofficial master blender who created blends of other wines to match the taste of the wines he forged. He didn't just have to fool the bottles and labels but had to fool the palettes of seasoned professionals and auction houses. This is not something a run of the mill con-artist can pull off. He was a genuine expert in wine who became a counterfeiter. But if your counterfeit wine taste as good as the real thing ya got to give him SOME credit.
while you are correct in general with your statement,
he fooled wine drinkers at drinking parties who were pounding down
bottles of wine and were drunk and burned out their pallete,
so they had no ability to detect his blends.
No auction house "sampled" the wine they were selling of his.
He mostly used authentic bottles he refilled.
Exactly! This video did not get this!!
Maybe he did, but you didn't. If you think that at these events people (experts) drink so much wine that they are very drunk, you are wrong....
Of course, this varies from person to person, but here we are talking about wine taster. You can't just drink wine and be on the floor in 1 hour. 🙂
Wine taster is your job. It might look like they're getting full drunk, but from a taster perspective, it's a their job.
If someone drinks wine for many years (at work or later in their free time), they can drink much more wine than someone who doesn't drink before they get drunk.
• How much wine do you get in a wine tasting?
"An average wine tasting is around 60mL and is generally enough for you to be able to take 3-4 sips of the wine. Remember you are not truly tasting a wine on the 1st and 2nd sips as these just enable your palate to adjust to the acids and tannins and for your mouth to be coated in the new beverage (you’ve probably tasted a few wines in the previous few minutes if you are doing a standard 6 - 8 wine tasting in a 30-40 minute."
"So the 3rd - 4th sip is when you’re actually tasting the wine, and this is taken into account when the portion is poured. Your sommelier is also taking into account the NSW RSA (Responsible Service of Alcohol) laws and restricting each pour to around 60 - 90mL."
• Are you supposed to spit out wine at a wine tasting?
"No and in the age of covid19 (2023 and beyond), the act of “spitting” is definitely a “no no”. While this may have been acceptable in the past, most cellars in the Hunter will ask you to leave if you do this due to the unsanitary nature of this practice in the new Covid Safe world that we live in."
• Do you have to endure drinking all of a tasting portion if you don’t like the wine?
Absolutely not and it is quite acceptable to tip the remaining portion of the wine in your tasting glass into the spittoon (this is it’s modern purpose in 2023), just don’t “spit” into it.
"Other people may feel that they have “had enough” and wish to slow down their alcohol consumption and just taste the first 1-2 sips and discard the rest."
"Wine can be tasted without drinking it! The flavor and structure of wine can be determined by holding it in one's mouth and switching it around for a couple of seconds before spitting it out without ever having to be consumed."
• "Today I want to help you learn how to stop DRINKING wine and start tasting wine. You might swirl it around, smell it a bit, and take a sip. You determine that you like it or dislike it, but that’s about it. You’re not making your brain work too hard to think about what exactly it is that you’re tasting and why you like or dislike it. And because of that, you’re not doing yourself any favors if you are interested in becoming a better wine taster"
The rabbit hole continues deeper from here.... but to continue to copy/paste the text would be pointless because there is a lot of information.
My answer is that it's better to check first before writing nonsense, especially if you don't know the people/person at all.
If they tasted wines at the beginning, and then much later, they were drunk. This does not change their results shared/written about the wines.
@@dchubworldsharenetwork many of those duped by this guy, explained in interviews what I exactly explained. the get tipsy from their drinking parties and makes it tough to judge after a while.
I make my own, in a bucket, at home, experimenting with different fruit & spice additives. Friends, family & neighbours love it. $3.00 to $6.00 per bottle cost (includes price of bottles & corks). I will go to dinner parties and put unlabelled bottles (German White & Italian Red) in with all the high end offerings displayed. Eventually someone gets curious and opens them. Then the fun begins, several wine snobs standing around sniffing, swirling, tasting, spitting. They analyze, dissect the flavours, give their learned opinions & then start guessing the country, winery, age. At some point when I announce the wine came from a kit, purchased for around $100.00 they want to argue. "no way" "can't be done" "You must have blended it with expensive wine" These are Rudy's people, lol. I understand the entertainment value he must have gotten from this scam because it sure is fun.
If it tastes good, Drink It.
If it tastes bad, Don't.
Sold wine for 5 years in South Florida with National Distributing Company. Wine is and has always been a subjective taste. Everybodies taste buds are different. Having tried about 100 different wines up to $60 a bottle the ones I bought were between $8 to $13 with a few around $15. It does not matter what it says on the label, it only matters if you enjoy it. I will tell you the larger wineries are usually very aggressive with growing distribution and sales. Just because these wines are everywhere does Not mean they are any better or worse than another varietal from another winery. What ever type or brand you like keep enjoying.
I'm an Australian and was a white and red wine drinker for many years.
I hardly drink at all now. I'm not a wine snob, but I know what I like and don't like. I can not say I have enjoyed drinking Yellow Tail products though I have bought and tried it.
Australia has many cheap high-quality wines, both, white and red. More recently a good wine can be had for 15 to 20 dollars.
My best buy was a broken dozen of 2000 Chateau Mouton Rothschild (eleven bottles). I paid $37.50 per bottle. I sold all of them for $120 a bottle in 2001
They can now be bought in Melbourne for AU2750 per bottle.
Too rich for me at 120 a bottle!
Yellow Tail is far from the best.
Yeah. I was following along until he started praising yellowtail. Same experience. Never had an enjoyable drink from them.
Praising Yellow tail wine is like saying Frozen TV dinners ( from you supermarket) are restaurant quality food, just packaged & frozen ! 😂
@@paulsz6194 Have you ever watched an international flight review? (Sam Chui etc) ...it's weird to watch a flight attendant gently and carefully pour a wine into a glass, and seen that same wine in the local dairy for about ten dollars.
@@SiliconBong yes, I prefer non stop Dan, or Josh Cahill, as they pay for their own flights, so their reviews are completely independent. I’ve also seen Krug Champagne get poured on Emirates First class flights . How much can you buy Krug for, by the way?
Working sommelier here. You want a solution to this problem? Don’t buy your wine from the supermarket! Go to wine shops (and be surprised to not find any brands you find in the supermarket there (for the most part) Wine shops have experienced and passionate people running them that you can speak to and stock honest wines that are generally not mass produced on the scale that wines found in supermarkets typically are, so you can discover the real wine world and what it has to offer, and you can find amazingly delicious wine at most price points. Generally, wine does increase in quality as the price increases, and there are many factors and variables in this, and yes there can be exceptions (and that quality to price ratio does start to plateau at some point). I think we need to stop assuming that expensive wine is for chumps, because at the end of the day, we can’t all be an expert in every field, so yes I appreciate and enjoy what more expensive wine can have to offer, but if you’re a casual wine drinker who isn’t particularly into wine on some kind of nerdy level, then just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s for chumps. There are plenty of fields im not an expert in and therefore don’t appreciate enough to spend more money on, wine just doesn’t happen to be one of them.
The best is not to drink wine at all as it is a pretentious drink
@@hpdpco6634so why are you here? Jesus turned water into wine and drank some of the wine himself at the Marriage feast where did miracle . Does that make him pretentious??
@@hpdpco6634 my brother,in Portugal good wine is cheaper than shitty vodka.
We get 2 bottles of very good wine for less than 10€
@@hpdpco6634incorrect
And so the scammer's story perpetuates the insanity!!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Lol. A few years ago the television series "Adam Ruins Everything" did a segment about this. How the wine industry is all smoke and mirrors.
Thank you for remembering that.
there is definitely alot of marketing to try to convince the consumer that generally basic wines have some sort of special qualities, lately it has been alot of eco friendly marketing to make you feel good about buying a particular brand, nothing about the actual quality of the wine
I fix and sell scales. Believe me when a poultry is packaging chickens they use different brand plastic for shops and some in their brand plastic and those chickens have different prices and customers they will tell you how good those different brands are but they are the same batch of chicken from the same poultry.
Dude, OMG, if you think there is no difference between Two Buck Chuck and a well crafted wine put together by a wine maker that knows what they are doing . . . I can't help you. You are on your own. Doesn't necessarily mean it has to be expensive, but there is a difference.
Arrogant nonsense. I know from extensive experience
@@rskcg Drink Yellow Tail if you want, i prefer wines that taste of the place...
Well Two Buck Chuck 2002 Shiraz beat out 2,300 other wines for double gold.
The wine industry is quite unregulated, the quality assertions are laughable: Controlled, Controlled and guaranteed, etc.I tried a few expensive wines and couldn’t taste a difference to good cheap wines. Now my motto is: Try all the cheap wines, there you‘ll find some gems. Then try the little more expensive ones, and you’ll find some diamonds. Result: I usually pay about 3-4 Euros for excellent wines.
It's good for you that you like 3 or 4 euro bottles of wine. But saying that are excellent.... You should probably limit yourself saying that "you really like them"... 3 or 4 euros wines are systematically rubbish, as much as McDonald's is. You want to know why? I'm not going to explain that.... Just go work 1 year in a winery from start to end of the process, you'll understand. Otherwise people should stop being so opinionated and ve more open to things they ignore
@@Skipnamethistime You‘re right from a business standpoint, it‘s probably rubbish wine if it can be sold for below 5 Euros. But it‘s true for my palate: When I won a 500 Euro-coupon a year ago at my grocery store, I bought a bottle for 50 Euros. Me and my wife couldn’t make out why it was so expensive. There are a lot of mediocre wines at 7-10 Euros in Germany, and also some good ones in that range. But to buy wine, we drive over the border to France and they have good wines in the 3-4 Euro range.
Here in Canada I tend to like wine that's around $20. Anything I've had that's more expensive wasn't as good as some of the $20 bottles.
Anything under $15 is gross, except a few Italian wines.
Best wine I've ever had was homemade. Had a nice sweet wine taste, then distinctly chocolate, then butter.
@@DasHemdchenthe key here is that you and your wife don’t understand shit about wine
Adding a pinch of fine sawdust gives my cheap wine a snobbish oak note 😁🤣
I don’t pay over $15 for a bottle of wine. $30 or $60 bottles are no better and just a waste of money. Trader Joe’s has great lower cost wines.
I knew a French restaurateur who retired and saw him in Trader Joe’s with a cart full of $8.00 French red wine for himself!
I agree. I always buy one of the cheapest ones but always the best taste.
@@SK-hv3znthey are not the best taste. They are sweet so you think they are tasty
The thing is that wine of the highest quality only costs so much to produce that it sells for a couple hundred dollars a bottle. There is no real difference in quality between wines costing hundreds and wines costing thousands. You can't fill an empty bottle of DRC with cheap wine and pass it off as the real thing, but if you did that with another top tier wine from Burgundy that costs 10% as much as DRC, basically anyone who tastes it wouldn't know he is being swindled. When people spend thousands of dollars on a bottle they are paying mostly for the label.
No one takes Yellow Tail seriously. It's big on advertising and low on quality. Don't buy wine in a supermarket except in Europe.
A Yellowtail commercial?
This video was great- just clicked play and watched it to the end. Thanks for the effort.
I remember the 2 buck chuck in California. Wasn't bad wine, certainly not for the price!
I'll put my homemade wine against a top-notch wine in blind wine tasting and would love to see the results.
Oh? Who knew spoiled grape juice was a racket?
At least yer drunk!
I have had more bad expensive supermarket wines than I have had great ones. I will now only buy expensive wines in specialist wine shops.
The problem with specialty wine stores, which I have been to many, in many countries is simple, it’s to make big bucks from the unsuspecting customers. Supermarkets all round the world have made a serious dent in the profits of these wine specialty stores.
I still go to these ‘pretentious’ wine stores with sometimes very pretentious staff, just to buy specialty wines and liquors. But I enjoy checking out supermarkets often, why? They are not pretentious, they experiment with all sorts of wines including “Yellow Tail”, which I will be getting a bottle of Shiraz soon for my lamb BBQ this Sunday, today.
I do believe there is a big difference from expensive and cheap wines 🍷
I mean, you've got to admire the guy a little bit - mixing cheap vines to match a specific profile is kind of an art. A tea maker of a little local brand I know used to say that the best tea technologists work for lipton and other cheap supermarket brands. Takes a lot of knowledge to produce the same taste year after year after year. Bad taste of course but still
I saw a demo about 6 years ago on TV in Europe, how to make fake wine, and it is sold all over the continent, coming mainly from Italy. He did on the front of a panel and cameras.
Ingredients: Purified water, flavor/color powder (artificial), alcohol.
He mixed it, let it stand for a few minutes, and let them look at it and taste it.
Conclusion by the panel: Tastes, looks like cheap, low quality, a bit "off", but real wine.
You think that stuff is not here?
Think again...
in sub $10 bottles
Same with Olive oil from Italy
@@theboringchannel2027 It's likely put into real wines as well - to increase the volume. If it's put in at say, 10, 15%, the vast majority of people will not even notice the adulteration...
No. It's all a myth. Wine powder does exist but it is too expensive compared to cheap natural stuff.
The cheap wine is made from "grape mass" left over after making juice and jams, with some additives. But not from some powder.
the more expensive the wine the more it tastes like crap
most $10 wines and under are crap
some decent stuff in the $30-50 range
better stuff in the 80-100 range,
and the value tops out once you spend more than $200 for a bottle
@@theboringchannel2027I don't know in your country, but in Spain you can find without any effort amazing wines for less than €10.
Fortified screw top is what Wino Joe drank. He said if you ain’t ever had the roof of your mouth sunburned you ain’t a real alcoholic.
Pretty good video for a surprisingly low subscriber count.
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This is not the first scandal many others have preceded this one. Wine is a question of the food you eat WITH the wine. Same goes for other “luxury “ products, banking on the fools who are willing to buy them, if they can afford them or not. Just use your common senses.😅😅😅😅😅😅
nothing is so bad it can't get worse. i am going to use that line.
In Spain, in adition to realy good and unexpensive wines, we also have an independent guide named "Supervinos" (Superwines), it is, high ratio qualification wines which you can buy in supermarkets from €6 to 15 a bottle.
I'm getting notes of grape
...crushed with bare human feet in a large vat. And now, I smell chords of sweat, cotton socks lint, undernail grit...
@@A0A4ful…but it’s sorted my mouldy toenails. 😉
There is one certainty in the wine world: Night Train.
Yeah, this video is nonsense. I've had great wines that were affordable and mediocre wines that were expensive. But Yellow Tail is manufactured and chemically. If that's what you like, go for it, but price isn't the reason I avoid it.
Agreed.
Buying good wine is simple. Go to a wine shop and ask for something. Dont buy mass produced wine.
Guys, stop being dramatic, this is not a scam.... Not talking about the Rudy's case in particular, but wine industry is not necessarily a scam. A business has to make profit wether is who makes it or who sells it. Then, nowadays people for some reason expect services to be something available for free or low price to everyone, like a birthright, but reality is that we're all living way above what real life should be (look at countries debts). Businesses like supermarkets, restaurants, etc...have costs. If they offer certain bargain prices with certain things, they have to get the money from somewhere else. Turns out some people are willing to spend from "a lot" to "unlimited" amount of money to buy wine, and that's on THEM, and them only. No law obliges nobody to buy expensive things or luxury services. You don't want to waste your money? Set yourself your honest budget for something, example 10 dollars for a bottle of wine, and just stick to it. No one obliges tou to buy things you don't understand. This is NOT a scam. Rudy's case... Is selling a piece of leather or cotton with a brand on it very different from what he did? People decides to buy those things to show how wealthy ( and superficial, and dumb) they are. So again, it's on them.
...just like they seek to hike up the prices as much as they can we seek to push them down as low as possible. So don't be an idiot!
@@thyristo why? You want to pay wine less than 3 dollars? Because you can definitely find many wines on that range... You want to buy clothes at 2 dollars? There's plenty.... Why would I be the idiot and not who spends 150k on a handbag or 10k on a bottle of wine....
Years ago, in my youth, I saw a ''Help Wanted'' sign on a North Beach wine shop in San Francisco. I walked in and meekly asked for a job application from the counter salesman.
He replied: ''You don't understand, young man''. "Please present your CV''.
The shop is still there...over 50 years later. And no...I drink beer. HaHa!
''...and occasionally Trader Joe's ''2 Buck Chuck''.
sounds like he could have a seriously legit career in wine......
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Rule is simple. Try various (inexpensive) vines and buy what you like.
2:10 ... what was happening *right under their noses*
While the video is made very well, i am very critical about the assumptions.
And start with mine, believing the author is US american. And many of the viewers also. Sorry to say that but besides of BBQ US has no taste and food culture.
I am still shocked by your Fastfood culture and nit cooking at home with fresh ingrediences. You have sugar and corn sirup everywhere, destroying all food sences..
Yes i know there are nice restaurants abd many who love to eat nice stuff - but the average US american is eatibg lower quality food. And it shows.
The fraud has mostly nothing to do with wine tastings, because mixing bad wine into an evening after the taster had already some bottles just shows that beeing drunk makes dull.
This chinese scammer had possibly money from chinese CCP and was money laundering.
Besides that, stop eating cheap trash, cheap chips with bad ingredience. Buy locally and not in Walmart and all of this big chemical plants called Hypermarkets and teach your taste. Detox from all if this ugly stuff you eat. It also destroys your stomach.
People who are not able to produce and eat good bread, can not be taken serious about "tasting wine".
This is ment as serious criticism to grown people, not dumb internet bashing. I too drink also cheam 12 euro wines sometimes, but the 30 to 60 wines are waaay better like the difference between cheap meat and meat from cows who where well fed and slaughtered by professiobal butchers.
But you have to cultivate the tounge and your bacteria in you to taste it and dissolve the food/drinks productive and positively.
Besides that, thank you for the interesting video. It is underrated. AI voices shoild be used as seldom as possible.
Its not AI voice, but I get your point, AI flooded youtube this past year
unless your in the winery/growers business, absolutely nothing in your snobby comment makes any sence.....there are many 5 star resturaunts and world class cellars in the USA, just because your to impoverished to know about them is your loss😳🤯, there is extreme luxury an dquality in the USA.... but YOU would have to find it, as far as fast food, you act as though usa people are like screaming how delicious and incredible tastey mcdonalds is!! everyone knows mcdonalds is junk and doenst taste like 5 stars...🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️, instaed of being a snob , educate yourself, save some money , visit the USA and find some "haute cuture"
40plus years rest/hosp ind., mostly bar. Wine and tasting it as a server was all French when I started. When California came into industry they had to build their reputation. Customers weren’t biting and would snobbish reject it! French only French! Worked in 5 star resorts and many years. It really is a snotty business. Much ado about grapes! I’m a retired bartender now over 35 yrs, not up on the sales of wine, yet I can promise, they all STILL do the same thing they’ve done for years-surplus crops mass bottled but hype it as the latest blahblahblah! If you drink a glass and love it BUY IT! Unless you’re serving bartenders, servers and sommelier’s’ chances are they won’t know difference between really good, excellent or crap!!! Trust! 🙏🏻🤔🤭
Yellowtail’s not a good wine.
If you drink alcohol you are a fool😂😂😂
It has always been true that the emporer was naked . The aristocratic class around him fell for it through collusion and fear of being deemed not sofisticated enough.
I do not like any wines other than those I make myself.
Ain't nothing like cold duck an boons farm
Elementar expanding your brand to the world🇧🇷🇧🇷
Thats the spirit 🚀
There's a lot of incorrect information in this video.
I don't drink. 😅
Have been drinking Chilean and Argentinian wines lately. Very good value. 👍
Thing is... Yellowtail wines suck and are undrinkable if you know just a little little of wine. And if you make a group of 10 Masters of Wine blind taste 100 different wines of different price ranges, you can bet there'll be a huge correlation between price and quality. Making a video about the wine industry being a scam and ending up talking about the virtues of yellowtail it's a joke, to be honest. What it's a scam is paying x5 the price in a restaurant.
I would never take a momma boy's opinion...
That is generally a good point, but it does not take into account that sometimes, after a certain age, roles change, and it is the role of the son to help out.
This video is a lame over simplification concerning fine wines and "cheap" wines, wine experts, etc. and the phenomenon of exclusivity, a niche that doesn't work like others.
Found an exquisite wine sold for $160 at one place...$2.79 re-labelled at another.
@@thyristo sounds like you're just full of shit. Back it up with facts or ask your parents for some attention and not to strangers online
What is the wines name?
@@thyristo What was the wine?
Some Indonesians will be proud 😂🇲🇨
Wine us marketing, nothing more actually same as the whole alcohol industry.
So you stole the story from some ones documentary to make a you tube vid about stealing wine... LOL
There’s no such thing as 'stealing a story.' I’m simply telling a story to make a point, and this doesn’t take anything away from the documentary itself-if anything, it may encourage more people to check it out. Also, just to clarify, the video isn’t about stealing wine. 🤷♂️