@@Userhasbeenbanned0 He never got his hands dirty, he was like a manager/diplomat for the mob. He was already well off from his family, he pretty much was the rich kid of the mob that just played golf and enjoyed his life. So why sully your life when you're already "made" and never have to work? He didn't have an ego like everyone else.
Little Carmine phonetically pronouncing "Versailles" implies he actually reads but has no peers with intellectual interest to actually verbalize this stuff to on a regular basis. You sort of see this in Tony too; who watches the History Channel and seems to have an appreciation for (some) things beyond his immediate circumstances living a hedonistic criminal life in New Jersey. Recognizing this in Tony is potentially why Little Carmine chose to lead in with a butchered historical anecdote rather than the crude analogies most other mobsters seem to prefer.
Little Carmine possibly being based off the 48 Laws book is actually such a cool theory. There’s a law in there that advices to “Always look dumber than your mark”, which could be hinting that his theme of butchering the english language is really just for show. Another law encourages to surrender when it’s convenient. And there’s yet another law that states “Win through actions, never through argument”, which pretty much sums up his whole character.
@@MrRyan-wu4jxyeah. I think he’s just not that bright, but thinks he is. And because he is the son of a powerful and dangerous person, no one has ever had the cohones to correct him. So he just doesn’t know he is dumb
I tell ya, if I let myself look dumber than I am, some people sure would’ve been on my ass a lot less. People would’ve asked someone else for help or whatevah.
@@FelipeJaquez Depends on what the PhD is FOR and how it's ''applied in the real world''. Physics or mathematics have more ties to reality (and therefore value) than ''critical theory'' for instance.
@rocksparadox I've found that people who say a university or college education lack practical experience have never applied for a post-secondary education.
Always thought Lil Carmine was the guy who had it all, the best of both worlds. He had money, and obviously knew how to earn as I doubt Lil Carmine inherited that much wealth directly. He never complains about money and is living the good life. When he gets the itch he flies to NY for some gabolgool and cannoli while he brokers a deal between families. Then flies back to FL, happy as a clam, banging cocktail waitresses two at a time. Whether he was some sly-ass, Kayser Sose, or just Mr. Magoo'ed it makes absolutely no difference because homeboy is alive, rich, and happy.
Carmine never really bought in to that lifestyle. I appreciate his character because in the sea of mobster he looks weak but they all inherently are jealous of him in some way due to the fact he really does not seem to define his personality by the suit he is wearing.
I also think Johnny Sack calling Rusty a cancer at his daughter's wedding was great foreshadowing. Maybe if Sack didn't kill Rusty, Rusty wouldn't have came back as his cancer to drag him down with him.
Finally someone connected the 48 Laws with the Sopranos! And made a video about it! Carmine was also all about Law number doesn't matter , "Play a Fool to Catch a Fool"
Always felt he was one of the best characters on the show. Observant and subtle- Unassuming. That's why he always survived. If there was trashed talked about him, keep this in mind: *Everyone had trash talked about them*
Real hothead this Renegade Films, huh? And the ego! But I tell you, decisive as he is, when I first subscribed to him, I would've been proud to call him my own channel.
First time viewer here. I gotta say I really like your narration. You are an excellent writer with great delivery. Makes me want to go back and watch the Sopranos. I haven't seen it since it aired. KUDOS
Keep in mind to that in the movie, Scarface is the character of Frank hotels, Tony, Montana, that the people who make it in the cartel business are the people who keep their heads down and do their job so little Carmine was a perfect smart for this
Carmine was smart enough to realize he's not all that smart. I mean, good for him. His position though can also be greatly attributed to nepotism - him being the boss's son, he got enough money and power, he doesn't feel the need to prove himself. He's the only "free" mobster out of all of them. Ironic
I’m not even sure if it was that entirely, but like most of those guys, they had the emotional control of a kid during puberty. That’s what got so many of them whacked or at least in trouble.
The 3 men Tony needed by his side: Silvio, Underboss; Furio, Enforcer and Little Carmine, Consiglieri....remember, it's not about being Boss: it's about being HAPPY 😁
The fundamental question is will you be as effective a RUclipsr as borko was? And you will be, even more so, but until then, it's gonna hard to verify that I think you would be more effective.
id say carmines character is pretty much similiar to myself if im being honest. Carmine plays stupid and weak because he has no ego he just lets people assume he doesnt know what he is doing but he knows exactly what hes doing you could say hes a dark manipulator in a sense.
Carmine was way smarter than we give him credit for. He said one stupid line during a meeting and started a war between Phil and Tony while staying out of it. With everyone dead he takes NY and what’s left of Jersey.
"People who boast about their IQ are losers." - Sir Stephen Hawking It is after the considerable consideration of all the things that need to be considerably considered and pondered upon, pensively that I pen these words on my computer. In this assay, I will refer to the great American philosopher, Clint Eastwood who in his seminary work, Magnum Force said, and I quote, "A man has just got to know his limitations". Little Carmine knows his. Of the various criminal activities seen throughout the series, "Fixing wet T-shirt contests" is seen as strictly amateur hour, if not childish. Has anyone ever been clipped over wet T-shirt contests? Moreover, how does he decide who should win, if not by 'sampling' the goods? Further, allow me to quote from another movie, 'American Gangster", where Denzel Washington's character is told "Quitting and quitting while you are ahead are not the same thing". He doesn't quit and ends up in prison. The Sopranos is littered with a long trail of people who could have quit but couldn't, examples include, Richie Aprile, Feech La Manna, Tony Blundetto, Phil Leotardo and yes, Tony Soprano. Most of them ended up dead because their reach exceeded their grasp. Look at Little Carmine's accomplishments: Lives in Miami with his hot wife Rigs wet-t-shirt contests Makes porn movies in Miami (Bang Bros, most likely) No feds up his a*s Helps Chris achieve his dreams of making a movie AND sets Tony's son up as a porn producer (Bang Bros, most likely) thus placating potential enemies Makes everyone around him feel smart if not downright erudite Survives to the end AND possibly has Tony whacked to control New York, New Jersey, and Miami. In short, "The deadliest predators can hide in a plane site" - some guy on the internets (me) I speak for all of the Little Carmines of the world when I say, "You don't have to be smart to be a genius" Here ends my TED talk.
Is there something that gives you the impression that Carmine had to get that centuries-old anecdote from that specific book? That's my one sticking post in an otherwise mellifluous video.
For someone praising Little Carmine... it's amazing how much you missed. Little Carmine never stopped playing the game. When his dad got pissed off on the golf course and started smashing his club, Little Carmine trolled him into that and he knew exactly what he was doing. In episode 6,12 he was mediating between Phil and Tony and he's reading off all of the conflicts and he says lets put it all behind us, at which point Tony and Phil nod and they're ready to put it behind them, but Little Carmine doesn't in all actuality want them to put it behind them, so he adds... "your brother Billy, whatever happened there"... this causes Phil to freak out and keep the beef going. When Little Carmine brings Tony to Phil Leotardo's for an alleged truce after Tony's curb stomp, that was all Little Carmine stoking the flames. Little Carmine in all actuality was a master troller, while pretending to be a naive peace maker. He played a central role in the New York Jersey conflict. He also played a central role in Tony's cousin's off the grid hit.
Great character analysis, thanks. The thing that was never made explicit in the Sopranos was how little Carmine "made his bones". He was obviously a made guy or the others wouldn't have considered him as the replacement for his father but I can't recall a single scene of aggression from him. I wonder if his character was modelled on Michael Franzese who has created an image of himself as the "businessman" of the family who clearly lived off his father's reputation
Little Carmine is much more than a mobster who managed to quit. Later he played mediator between two family bosses, that's a very powerful postion. Even later after Phil died, he seemed to become a Godfather of sorts, pulling strings from backstage. Busch was even asking him for approval.
All of Season 6A & 6B, Little Carmine and Paulie were both rebuilding themselves. After Billy Leotardo died, Carmine realized that his street errors were exposed and attacked. He retreated and let Johnny win because like he said to Rusty to some degree [I don’t want the crown this way]. After John takes the throne, he goes to Jail at the end of season 5. Carmine went to work at the start of 6. He legitimized the film that Christopher made, met high profile Hollywood elites, stayed on the scene for the family, helped settle disputes so that his name remained respectable. When Tony and Phil sat down with little Carmine to mediate, that scene is a reimagined version of the Godfather sit down where Vito realizes it was Barzini all along. In that meeting with Phil and Tony, they settled their disputes to move forward but Little Carmine in control and mediation of their dispute, brought up Billy Leotardo’s death at the worst time on purpose. Doing this helped him out by Tony and Phil still being at war possibly taking each other out, Tony will still think he’s dumb just because he mentioned that death, and he still works with Phil to see how NY will handle Jersey. It was the SMART PLAY…especially after his friend Rusty. The final meeting where everybody is in that garage, Carmine is mediating again but to a small degree which only helps him out even more. He seems even less suspicious about wanting the crown but it was the need of his voice to keep the conversation moving that spoke the loudest in that meeting. If it was agreed that NY & Jersey will end the war and it was evident Tony still wanted to kill Phil, if Tony did happen to also die they only people would be remaining for NY would be Carmine & Butchie and the consigliere. On Jersey Side it’s only Paulie & Patsy who combined offer BALLZ & BRAINZ to lead the family. Those are qualities that for a long time Tony possessed all by himself.
Key factor for Little Camrine is that he was in a position to be able to choose if he stayed in the life or if he walked away from it. That don't make him the wisest, just the luckiest. Plenty of others would have liked to walk away, but they just had no hope for a satisfying life outside of crime. Job market is brutal to people with criminal records.
You are doing great. Just do your best to maintain a weekly or at least biweekly video. Focus on your writing, make sure its tight, but insightful like you have been doing, but worry about the visual aspect of the video last. Your writing shines and the visuals will improve with time or you can just hire someone to handle it. Just keep a consistent schedule and people will get excited when you show up in their feed or when they know "tomorrow the new Renegade Films video drops". I just got that feeling when I saw this video in my feed. You have it in you and can make this channel big. Once you have consistent scheduled videos form relations with other streams, they don't have to be big just like minds you'll benefit from the crossover audience. I'm a nobody, with no experience making content, but I've seen many creators start from nothing with less talent than you and go places doing what I'm talking about. My motives in this comment are purely selfish in that I want more of your content, on a constant schedule and I know I'm not the only one, but don't get cocky you ain't that good. Yet.
I went into this extremely skeptical of your premise and came out of it agreeing with you 100%. I'm even left wondering if Little Carmine didn't play dumb on purpose.
Little Carmine is the Equivalent of the emperor Claudius. Claudius presented himself as a fool to show that he wasn't a threat to Caligula. In the end Caligula gets killed and because Claudius was beloved by the men of the Roman Army he was made Emperor.
Little Carmine played his cards wisely while the others simply threw them all over the place or doubled down, with predictably lethal results for that life. Curbing ambition and humbleness can be a real lifesaver. The paper crown is worth more than a golden one.
At his father’s funeral notice how he had to check everyone for the Opus Dei pendant. Then look it up or if Roman Catholic you’ll understand the blasphemy at his wake towards the lord.
So when he caressly reminded Phil of "whatever happened there" as reproachment was within reach... he did that on purpose. He didnt want peace between ny and nj.
Little Carmine was the smartest one of them all. He stood back and did little egging shit on. He knew Rusty, Sacks, Philly, et. al would kill each other off if they could to be boss. Once he had all his family rivals done with that only left Tony to take out Philly. So all that was left was Carmine and Tony. Now he takes care of Tony he ends up with all of Tonys shit and his father's . He let all of his enemies take care of each other. I said this years ago. Remember Michael was the good college boy.
Calling the only top dude that avoided being whacked or put behind the bars dumb is truly an ignorant take. Also Tony asked him for advice for a reason, too.
I hated him because he always seemed like he was one foot in, one foot out of being a gangster. I hated his backroom advisors more. I don't like that all of his advisors, who all hid their maneuvers behind Little Carmine, talk tough but look like they haven't put in any real work into the criminal underworld themselves (corporate hands off gangsters who've never so much as gotten their hands dirty). I get thats what might have saved Little Carmen from an unnatural demise, his lack of real power or agency in the situation, but in my opinion he could have just as easily been whacked along with his cohort who got it in his driveway (I can't remember his name, "the mayor of munchkin land" as Phil referred to him as) for simply angering the wrong people and playing with fire like he did. His respected father was long dead and nothing was really stopping anyone from taking him out. You make moves like mafia boss you better be ready to take heat like a mafia boss and he definitely wasn't ready for the heat. As Mobb Deep once said ".. ain't no such things as halfway crooks."
I disagree with the Eugene Pontecorvo statement; if he was patient (Like Carmine Jr was), I think Eugene could've persuaded Sil to let him go to Florida after Tony got shot. And even if Sil said no, Sil ended up in the ER during that time period too. Eugene could have done what Chris did and just made his movie anyway while Tony was incapacitated. Just gotta wait some shit out sometimes; feed the FBI bullshit for a while, then head down to Florida.
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Let me tell you something, and I’m not afraid to say it: My estimation for Little Carmine as a character just fockin skyrocketed
when it comes to quality film criticism, all bets are off.
Now that is both sacred, and propane.
Whatever dat was
He never reached out to New Jersey in his war for Boss. Saying yes would have saved Tony in the end.
Little Carmine was pretty smart instead of being boss he wanted to be happy and he didn't get whacked
it would a happened too 4 SURE.
Johnny n Phil weren't letting nobody stop em from taking over.
And he didn’t get pinched either
@@Userhasbeenbanned0 True
@@Userhasbeenbanned0 He never got his hands dirty, he was like a manager/diplomat for the mob. He was already well off from his family, he pretty much was the rich kid of the mob that just played golf and enjoyed his life. So why sully your life when you're already "made" and never have to work? He didn't have an ego like everyone else.
He was so smart he forced a house to talk to him
Ahahahahah
Little Carmine phonetically pronouncing "Versailles" implies he actually reads but has no peers with intellectual interest to actually verbalize this stuff to on a regular basis. You sort of see this in Tony too; who watches the History Channel and seems to have an appreciation for (some) things beyond his immediate circumstances living a hedonistic criminal life in New Jersey. Recognizing this in Tony is potentially why Little Carmine chose to lead in with a butchered historical anecdote rather than the crude analogies most other mobsters seem to prefer.
It's a fucking TV show
Total debacle
Little Carmine possibly being based off the 48 Laws book is actually such a cool theory. There’s a law in there that advices to “Always look dumber than your mark”, which could be hinting that his theme of butchering the english language is really just for show.
Another law encourages to surrender when it’s convenient. And there’s yet another law that states “Win through actions, never through argument”, which pretty much sums up his whole character.
He drops malapropisms in front of just his daughter and her friends too, which I couldn’t see the point of if this were true.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx he could also be some variation of dyslexic
@@MrRyan-wu4jxyeah. I think he’s just not that bright, but thinks he is. And because he is the son of a powerful and dangerous person, no one has ever had the cohones to correct him. So he just doesn’t know he is dumb
It’s basically the same strategy that emperor Claudius used to stay alive before he took power
I tell ya, if I let myself look dumber than I am, some people sure would’ve been on my ass a lot less. People would’ve asked someone else for help or whatevah.
He is the type of person that is not intelligent, but is naturally wise. Rare type indeed.
As I understand it, a zombie of sorts.
A PHD is nothing compared to practical experience and a good moral framework.
I know it’s in colour but….
@@FelipeJaquez
Depends on what the PhD is FOR and how it's ''applied in the real world''.
Physics or mathematics have more ties to reality (and therefore value) than ''critical theory'' for instance.
@rocksparadox I've found that people who say a university or college education lack practical experience have never applied for a post-secondary education.
Always thought Lil Carmine was the guy who had it all, the best of both worlds. He had money, and obviously knew how to earn as I doubt Lil Carmine inherited that much wealth directly. He never complains about money and is living the good life. When he gets the itch he flies to NY for some gabolgool and cannoli while he brokers a deal between families. Then flies back to FL, happy as a clam, banging cocktail waitresses two at a time. Whether he was some sly-ass, Kayser Sose, or just Mr. Magoo'ed it makes absolutely no difference because homeboy is alive, rich, and happy.
Homeboy? I’ll send you to slip n’ falls school.
Carmine never really bought in to that lifestyle. I appreciate his character because in the sea of mobster he looks weak but they all inherently are jealous of him in some way due to the fact he really does not seem to define his personality by the suit he is wearing.
Most of those guys in the Family nevah had the makings of a chill guy.
Very allegorical, the sacred and the propane.
Great video.
Theres no stigmata.
The Carmines were legends with their wording.
I also think Johnny Sack calling Rusty a cancer at his daughter's wedding was great foreshadowing. Maybe if Sack didn't kill Rusty, Rusty wouldn't have came back as his cancer to drag him down with him.
That's profound lol
@@Ojos_Del_Sol very allegorical
I missed that one but they did that a lot. Christopher’s, Ralphie’s and of course Tony’s.
I've been arguing this point for years but this video put it more articulately than I have. Great video, soft drinks of choice for you Renegade Films.
Finally someone connected the 48 Laws with the Sopranos! And made a video about it! Carmine was also all about Law number doesn't matter , "Play a Fool to Catch a Fool"
Dumbest characters were the ones who tried killing Chrissy
All that counterstrike really paid off for Chrissy lol
“Yo, Christofa!”
@@alexjaybrady that nose was basically a ironsight
“JIZZ!!!”
-Matthew Bevilaqua
Sometimes playing dumb is the smartest thing you can do not to mention that he knew his old man was an informant.
wat
jimmy patrille was the informant
He wasn't, was he?
No he wasn’t. This guy is thinking about Ray Curto.
No he wasn’t. This guy is thinking about Ray Curto.
Congrats, you're this comment section's dumbest character
Intelligence and Wisdom are two different stats!
0:56 Underrated Little Carmine quote right there, you implemented it perfectly.
Always felt he was one of the best characters on the show. Observant and subtle- Unassuming. That's why he always survived. If there was trashed talked about him, keep this in mind: *Everyone had trash talked about them*
7:32 succeed, not secede. If that's writing made to be similar to Little Carmine, then it's brilliant :)
Carmine is not smart but he is wise. Tony is smart but not wise.
Great video. Good work on fully going through the significance of the Nicolas Fouquet story.
Real hothead this Renegade Films, huh? And the ego! But I tell you, decisive as he is, when I first subscribed to him, I would've been proud to call him my own channel.
He's a bit of a posUR if you ask me
Bit of a narrateur if you ask me
@@pizzalunch382 See? What am I always saying? I hate this fucking shit.
First time viewer here. I gotta say I really like your narration. You are an excellent writer with great delivery. Makes me want to go back and watch the Sopranos. I haven't seen it since it aired. KUDOS
Keep in mind to that in the movie, Scarface is the character of Frank hotels, Tony, Montana, that the people who make it in the cartel business are the people who keep their heads down and do their job so little Carmine was a perfect smart for this
Carmine was smart enough to realize he's not all that smart. I mean, good for him. His position though can also be greatly attributed to nepotism - him being the boss's son, he got enough money and power, he doesn't feel the need to prove himself. He's the only "free" mobster out of all of them. Ironic
Very allegoric
I always thought Paulie was pretty dumb😂😂😂
I’m not even sure if it was that entirely, but like most of those guys, they had the emotional control of a kid during puberty. That’s what got so many of them whacked or at least in trouble.
The 3 men Tony needed by his side: Silvio, Underboss; Furio, Enforcer and Little Carmine, Consiglieri....remember, it's not about being Boss: it's about being HAPPY 😁
The fundamental question is will you be as effective a RUclipsr as borko was? And you will be, even more so, but until then, it's gonna hard to verify that I think you would be more effective.
Carmine is the human embodiment of "he's confused but he's got spirit"
One of the few soprano theories that actually changed my thinking
uncle Philly my ass
Get off my stoop!
He was force into that position but he was smart enough to understand that it was good..
id say carmines character is pretty much similiar to myself if im being honest. Carmine plays stupid and weak because he has no ego he just lets people assume he doesnt know what he is doing but he knows exactly what hes doing you could say hes a dark manipulator in a sense.
Carmine was way smarter than we give him credit for. He said one stupid line during a meeting and started a war between Phil and Tony while staying out of it. With everyone dead he takes NY and what’s left of Jersey.
"People who boast about their IQ are losers." - Sir Stephen Hawking
It is after the considerable consideration of all the things that need to be considerably considered and pondered upon, pensively that I pen these words on my computer. In this assay, I will refer to the great American philosopher, Clint Eastwood who in his seminary work, Magnum Force said, and I quote, "A man has just got to know his limitations". Little Carmine knows his.
Of the various criminal activities seen throughout the series, "Fixing wet T-shirt contests" is seen as strictly amateur hour, if not childish. Has anyone ever been clipped over wet T-shirt contests? Moreover, how does he decide who should win, if not by 'sampling' the goods?
Further, allow me to quote from another movie, 'American Gangster", where Denzel Washington's character is told "Quitting and quitting while you are ahead are not the same thing". He doesn't quit and ends up in prison. The Sopranos is littered with a long trail of people who could have quit but couldn't, examples include, Richie Aprile, Feech La Manna, Tony Blundetto, Phil Leotardo and yes, Tony Soprano. Most of them ended up dead because their reach exceeded their grasp.
Look at Little Carmine's accomplishments:
Lives in Miami with his hot wife
Rigs wet-t-shirt contests
Makes porn movies in Miami (Bang Bros, most likely)
No feds up his a*s
Helps Chris achieve his dreams of making a movie AND sets Tony's son up as a porn producer (Bang Bros, most likely) thus placating potential enemies
Makes everyone around him feel smart if not downright erudite
Survives to the end AND possibly has Tony whacked to control New York, New Jersey, and Miami.
In short, "The deadliest predators can hide in a plane site" - some guy on the internets (me)
I speak for all of the Little Carmines of the world when I say, "You don't have to be smart to be a genius"
Here ends my TED talk.
You sound like Agent Harris unironically
I thought the same thing of this character. Likely the fundamental concept when they started drafting his script and layers.
Is there something that gives you the impression that Carmine had to get that centuries-old anecdote from that specific book? That's my one sticking post in an otherwise mellifluous video.
Carmine seems like the kind of person who would read 48 Laws and quote from it
I mean you had Paulie reading Sun Tzu through audio tapes.
"That thing with your brother" was def a tactic to push Tony to get rid of Phil without getting his hands dirty
Little Carmine has always been one of my favorite characters. I think he was always pulling the strings and played like he didn’t want to be involved.
Nice. A narrated essay and a jazz backup band for both my brains
Nowhere near the dumbest character on the show.
Tbh that spot has got to be reserved for Jackie Jr, can't even feel bad for the stupid pr*ck
@@lolmasterjerkit1531 didnt he almost drown in 3 inches of water
@@jamessmith-mq6tuthat was Tony jr
@@jamessmith-mq6tu the penguin exhibit
Jackie Jr.😄👉🤯
Another RUclipsr named @PureKino also talked about this. As I’m rewatching The Sopranos again, I can see it clearly now
It is always better to be #2. Spotlight off you, some level of respect, and the poop doesn’t get dumped onto you.
Little Carmine put the hit out on Tony, so he won the paper crown in the end.
"Boss. Fuck it, who needs it?" - Tony Soprano
"Wisest Wise guy"
For someone praising Little Carmine... it's amazing how much you missed. Little Carmine never stopped playing the game. When his dad got pissed off on the golf course and started smashing his club, Little Carmine trolled him into that and he knew exactly what he was doing. In episode 6,12 he was mediating between Phil and Tony and he's reading off all of the conflicts and he says lets put it all behind us, at which point Tony and Phil nod and they're ready to put it behind them, but Little Carmine doesn't in all actuality want them to put it behind them, so he adds... "your brother Billy, whatever happened there"... this causes Phil to freak out and keep the beef going. When Little Carmine brings Tony to Phil Leotardo's for an alleged truce after Tony's curb stomp, that was all Little Carmine stoking the flames. Little Carmine in all actuality was a master troller, while pretending to be a naive peace maker. He played a central role in the New York Jersey conflict. He also played a central role in Tony's cousin's off the grid hit.
Man your analysis are good. Could you do one on Fredo. There’s a theory that he’s not as dumb like most people say
I do NOT find Little Carmine being the dumbest character easy to agree with.
That is a HIGHLY contested spot.
Yeah, this series has a lot of contenders for that category. Chrissy being probably the easiest to agree with. Both the luckiest and dumbest.
When you roll 8 on intelligence and 18 on wisdom
Oh shit!...looks like I'm going to have to watch the Sopranos AGAIN!😊
Little Carmine was dubbed as “Brainless II” but he’s one of the few guys in the show that ended up keeping his brains by the end of the show
Great character analysis, thanks. The thing that was never made explicit in the Sopranos was how little Carmine "made his bones". He was obviously a made guy or the others wouldn't have considered him as the replacement for his father but I can't recall a single scene of aggression from him. I wonder if his character was modelled on Michael Franzese who has created an image of himself as the "businessman" of the family who clearly lived off his father's reputation
Great video. I feel like he doesnt get enough attention
I’ve always agree with this. Even when the show was running. I thought the same thing. This was a very good interpretation.
My favorite side character. He steals every scene he's in.
Little Carmine is much more than a mobster who managed to quit. Later he played mediator between two family bosses, that's a very powerful postion. Even later after Phil died, he seemed to become a Godfather of sorts, pulling strings from backstage. Busch was even asking him for approval.
This video is at the precipice, of an enormous crossroads.
In the end, Carmine Jr. was the true happy wanderer….
Heavy is the head that Wears....not Holds....the crown. I can say you're very allegorical....mixing the Sacred, and the Propane 👑
This is the best commentary
All of Season 6A & 6B, Little Carmine and Paulie were both rebuilding themselves. After Billy Leotardo died, Carmine realized that his street errors were exposed and attacked. He retreated and let Johnny win because like he said to Rusty to some degree [I don’t want the crown this way]. After John takes the throne, he goes to Jail at the end of season 5. Carmine went to work at the start of 6. He legitimized the film that Christopher made, met high profile Hollywood elites, stayed on the scene for the family, helped settle disputes so that his name remained respectable. When Tony and Phil sat down with little Carmine to mediate, that scene is a reimagined version of the Godfather sit down where Vito realizes it was Barzini all along. In that meeting with Phil and Tony, they settled their disputes to move forward but Little Carmine in control and mediation of their dispute, brought up Billy Leotardo’s death at the worst time on purpose. Doing this helped him out by Tony and Phil still being at war possibly taking each other out, Tony will still think he’s dumb just because he mentioned that death, and he still works with Phil to see how NY will handle Jersey. It was the SMART PLAY…especially after his friend Rusty.
The final meeting where everybody is in that garage, Carmine is mediating again but to a small degree which only helps him out even more. He seems even less suspicious about wanting the crown but it was the need of his voice to keep the conversation moving that spoke the loudest in that meeting. If it was agreed that NY & Jersey will end the war and it was evident Tony still wanted to kill Phil, if Tony did happen to also die they only people would be remaining for NY would be Carmine & Butchie and the consigliere. On Jersey Side it’s only Paulie & Patsy who combined offer BALLZ & BRAINZ to lead the family. Those are qualities that for a long time Tony possessed all by himself.
He was a smooth talker and often the voice of reason. I’m sure as a boss he would be respected by his people
He was such a great character I thought he appeared earlier than season 4
He's an old-fashioned guy, Pop, very allegorical.
Who do I think had Tony clipped? Don Brainless the 2nd
I always found it interesting that Butch seemed to be taking his cues from him, at the sit down where they gave the OK on clipping Phil.
Key factor for Little Camrine is that he was in a position to be able to choose if he stayed in the life or if he walked away from it. That don't make him the wisest, just the luckiest.
Plenty of others would have liked to walk away, but they just had no hope for a satisfying life outside of crime. Job market is brutal to people with criminal records.
Word on the street was Yogi Berra was a distant relative.🍿
Maybe him being called dumb is the sticking post
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This is the gayest of comments
Thank u both, hilarious
One thing I find fascinating about Carmine is that he's absolutely capable of being intelligent but he just can't quite get there.
Propane and propane accessories. Hank
I went into this extremely skeptical of your premise and came out of it agreeing with you 100%. I'm even left wondering if Little Carmine didn't play dumb on purpose.
lilttle Carmine definitely read some Robert Greene.
He was definitely one of the most likeable characters to me. He’s not a hothead like nearly everyone else in the show.
Little Carmine is the Equivalent of the emperor Claudius. Claudius presented himself as a fool to show that he wasn't a threat to Caligula. In the end Caligula gets killed and because Claudius was beloved by the men of the Roman Army he was made Emperor.
Little Carmine played his cards wisely while the others simply threw them all over the place or doubled down, with predictably lethal results for that life. Curbing ambition and humbleness can be a real lifesaver. The paper crown is worth more than a golden one.
Is it humility, or humbleness? Inner grammar nerd activated, sorry.
A pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold!
At his father’s funeral notice how he had to check everyone for the Opus Dei pendant. Then look it up or if Roman Catholic you’ll understand the blasphemy at his wake towards the lord.
The mayor of munchkin land has to go
you got more buttons then my grandmother's corsets
Play the dumb guy….play the everyman….nobody likes a guy who’s smarter than the audience…
Norm MacDonald
It's common knowledge the guy's a genius
PFFFTT who has multiple parents???
So when he caressly reminded Phil of "whatever happened there" as reproachment was within reach... he did that on purpose. He didnt want peace between ny and nj.
Oh! Sharp as a cueball this one !
Little Carmine was the smartest one of them all. He stood back and did little egging shit on. He knew Rusty, Sacks, Philly, et. al would kill each other off if they could to be boss. Once he had all his family rivals done with that only left Tony to take out Philly. So all that was left was Carmine and Tony. Now he takes care of Tony he ends up with all of Tonys shit and his father's . He let all of his enemies take care of each other. I said this years ago. Remember Michael was the good college boy.
littl Carmine is indeed wise. The mafia is ridiculous.
Calling the only top dude that avoided being whacked or put behind the bars dumb is truly an ignorant take. Also Tony asked him for advice for a reason, too.
I always liked little Carmine
Great video...
And Sopranos is still the greatest TV show ever made.
Ver-sales. Its ver-sigh. God help us.
The chateau in question is called Vaux le Vicomte. It’s a piece of shit compared to Versailles.
I hated him because he always seemed like he was one foot in, one foot out of being a gangster. I hated his backroom advisors more. I don't like that all of his advisors, who all hid their maneuvers behind Little Carmine, talk tough but look like they haven't put in any real work into the criminal underworld themselves (corporate hands off gangsters who've never so much as gotten their hands dirty). I get thats what might have saved Little Carmen from an unnatural demise, his lack of real power or agency in the situation, but in my opinion he could have just as easily been whacked along with his cohort who got it in his driveway (I can't remember his name, "the mayor of munchkin land" as Phil referred to him as) for simply angering the wrong people and playing with fire like he did. His respected father was long dead and nothing was really stopping anyone from taking him out.
You make moves like mafia boss you better be ready to take heat like a mafia boss and he definitely wasn't ready for the heat. As Mobb Deep once said ".. ain't no such things as halfway crooks."
Take it easy, we're not making a Western here.
Scared to death..
Little Carmine is definitely not the wisest character. Entertaining content tho
Great video. But you’re still gonna have to kick up a piece of your views up to Borko.
I disagree with the Eugene Pontecorvo statement; if he was patient (Like Carmine Jr was), I think Eugene could've persuaded Sil to let him go to Florida after Tony got shot. And even if Sil said no, Sil ended up in the ER during that time period too. Eugene could have done what Chris did and just made his movie anyway while Tony was incapacitated. Just gotta wait some shit out sometimes; feed the FBI bullshit for a while, then head down to Florida.
This video......TOTAL debacle 😁😁
Nice work if you can get it, fixing wet T-shirt contests and all.
You could be a really good voice actor.