It's sad there used to be a time where people were allowed to intelligently think outside the box and test the boundaries of conversation. People could also disagree and make it known, without anyone becoming embroiled in rage.
a shit load. A couple guests in this video said "black people cant be racist", only insane people say that these days. The media is still spinning the same bullshit, especially every 4 yrs, if you live and work in the real world you know it's better for example: look up FBI statistics on people killed by cops over the years (and their race).Also, black people are in every movie and commercial today.. nearly no white men
His comment about “I won’t rob you anymore” I understood most. Black people had banks and a business world that was incinerated to the ground!!! By whom? Not the wealthy people that ICe-T talks about. It was a white angry mob? So, finding meaning in life and a way to fulfill and sustain it you gets you out of trouble.. Many of us need that ( a purpose and being useful- IceT channeled his anger) Love to watch this! I wish it would come back to folks to substitute the cheesy shows that the majority people are watching today!
So Ice T contradicted himself...he's talking at first about not having money so there's no power to change anything but then says he changed his mentality and pulled himself up. So he took responsibility for himself regardless of the circumstance he was born into.
Even using Dick Gregory's definition, which is only part of the racist equation, blacks are not the minority in all country. Even going back to when this aired on TV, American blacks forget about the Caribbean where there are countries that have high GDP, whites are the minority, and blacks hold the financial and political power.
Totally wrong. Every race has their own racists. Even towards their own race. Indian people definitely look down on darker skinned Indians. You’ll never see a dark skinned Bollywood lady star.
He makes it quite clear when he says racism is the ability to determine someone's destiny. You might not agree with that definition but it's consistent with his claim.
I remember being taken to the Mall as an 11yo kid in the early 90’s, & the blacks wouldn’t move out of the way of whites if they were walking in your direction. It was like an underlying thing where they weren’t going to cater to a white person, if you were white, you HAD to move, & Lord have Mercy if you walked into one of them…. That’s the sort of covert racial things you would encounter back then that fueled covert racial animosity (btw for every one thing that the blacks did, the whites probably did 10 because we’re so arrogant, we half the time can’t recognize that we’re doing it).
Bruh, if any of you have a hard time understanding what Ice T was saying, he's not saying that without money you can't live at all or have a house or simple shit like that, he's saying that her grandmother's garden isn't going to stop wars. She doesn't have the power in this system to stop dangerous oil pumping or enact laws. White people literally invented the money we all know now, they also made sure that black and native people had barely if anything to spend it on as you know, they were slaves. And they were slaves for over 400 years, and let's address him pointing out that we didn't have banks like she thinks, we had banks but like black schools, they heavily underfunded them. Why do you think people who spent and were still spending time oppressing multiple groups of people would suddenly just give those people the means to buy back everything they stole? Hear that well, we have to BUY BACK everything they STOLE, everything that literally belongs to us and if you don't understand zoning laws, then you have zero idea how that mixed with gentrification have absolutely made it improbable for us to ever get back what belongs to us, and the only way we can even get anywhere near the microphone that actually matters is if we "impress" white people. We have to learn English and we have to be "civilized" for white people who savagely took our land. And if any of you get the idea to bring up rappers, they have literally no power besides influence and as we've seen time and time again when black people use their influence (Sandra Bland, Malcolm X, MLK, Tupac, Nat Turner, Huey P. Newton, Fred Hampton, etc.) they will absolutely kill us and they'll make it look like whatever the fuck narrative they want it to be. We then have to work in white owned corporations who then get to use all that money to fund whatever they want, and now they look for ways to replace all of us with AI. So I ask you all, is an old woman's garden going to have more power than the 4 chicken industries that own damn near all the chickens? More power than World Bank? More power than wealthy families who made all their money off the backs of her family and ancestors and still continue to do so?
Think about this….if a white guy says something hateful about the black race, and a black person says something hateful about the white race…is one worse than the other? You can call it whatever word you want but if you wanna pretend one is more hateful than the other….well thats racist!!! Or prejudice I guess🤷
Man, watching this in 2023 makes me thib about 2 things: 1. Sad thst we lost this type of conversation. 2. Debate about black racism always end aup in some shit throwing game. I guess, by this old guys definition, Obama's election was racist because the white voters elected him. See, it's their white skin and their power over casting votes.
The woman was absolutely right. The ones who disagreed were incorrect with her statements about who was holding the banks. Black people did own their own things at one point. Ice T was looking at it from a standpoint of “they’ve never allowed us to have anything.” That’s true, that’s why those banks and other businesses were built up purely of black wealth. White mobs were actually angry at black success and were hell bent on destroyed what they had built. Tulsa, Rosewood, Colfax, Atlanta, Elaine, Springfield, East St. Louis, and more are perfect examples of that, and those communities were never reimbursed.
Interesting How ,iced t had a bit of he’s reminiscing facts on how people acted and how people see things encouraging most of the time in finish times. 1:47
I enjoy listening to Star Parker’s comments. She has more knowledge of history and its continuity.. I wish these conversations are taken to seniors in high school.. go back to other blacks prior and right after depression years who are still alive today.. Just like Pauli Murray called Negroes with capital N (and she was instrumental to RGB ‘s legislative/judicial work) and made others feel uncomfortable just a few years later Bc they called themselves Black.. We have to know history and appreciate the hard work and suffering of the ones prior to us..
this was a great show... really a pre cursor to so many, but to me Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn was better, because it was all comedians... but has bill maher changed ? no... not really, it seems like the same writers actually, if you posted this audio and labeled it "2023" would you notice ? no knock on bill but he bombs or slays with his writers... for decades... but his personality is the same, especially if you watch his Club Random show, that is bill, for years, he has been the same dude.
I agree with Ice T in that the billionaires control the country, but their wealth has nothing to do with race and everything to do with intelligence, choices and the willingness to do whatever it takes to become wealthy...all of which I don't have and neither does he. That Dick Gregory Dude was clearly bitter and thus it clouded his willingness to entertain anything other than his own views. And I would have loved to hear Star's point of view, but Dick and T wouldn't shut up.
Holy cow, Bill's last question shows how ignorant he is. Are black Americans glad their culture, history, religion, humanity, freedom, etc was stripped away from their ancestors for hundreds of years and this country developed institutional racism that holds minorities down to this day? Then to tell a black woman that objects to that comment that she does not know what is going on in Africa is a prime example of Bill's white privilege and personal racism. Unbelievable.
Actually some black people have made that point as well (including Walter Williams). Never in my life have I seen a black person here immigrate to Africa.....but I have seen Africans come here.
All black! Wow, these days he only has all Jewish guests. He even did a joke about not enough jews in Hollywood, then the next 6 guests, 5 were Jewish.... maybe even the 6th...
It's sad there used to be a time where people were allowed to intelligently think outside the box and test the boundaries of conversation.
People could also disagree and make it known, without anyone becoming embroiled in rage.
Ice T created Gangsta Rap.
Now , 24 years later....what have we accomplished? Just food for thought folks.
a shit load. A couple guests in this video said "black people cant be racist", only insane people say that these days. The media is still spinning the same bullshit, especially every 4 yrs, if you live and work in the real world you know it's better
for example: look up FBI statistics on people killed by cops over the years (and their race).Also, black people are in every movie and commercial today.. nearly no white men
Nothing has changed at all
Yea shit's much worse. White man bad right
Alot has changed unless you are a perpetual victim.
Nothing. Same conversations 25 years later
Back when networks had a little bravery to put good shows and discussion on tv
Someone should play the last minute of this clip to Bill Maher now.
Hed just laugh. Like anyone else would
Ice-T always makes great points.
His comment about “I won’t rob you anymore” I understood most. Black people had banks and a business world that was incinerated to the ground!!! By whom? Not the wealthy people that ICe-T talks about. It was a white angry mob? So, finding meaning in life and a way to fulfill and sustain it you gets you out of trouble.. Many of us need that ( a purpose and being useful- IceT channeled his anger)
Love to watch this! I wish it would come back to folks to substitute the cheesy shows that the majority people are watching today!
So Ice T contradicted himself...he's talking at first about not having money so there's no power to change anything but then says he changed his mentality and pulled himself up. So he took responsibility for himself regardless of the circumstance he was born into.
The “black people cant be racist” argument was as stupid then as it is now
Even using Dick Gregory's definition, which is only part of the racist equation, blacks are not the minority in all country. Even going back to when this aired on TV, American blacks forget about the Caribbean where there are countries that have high GDP, whites are the minority, and blacks hold the financial and political power.
Blacks can't be racist by definition....look it up in the dictionary
Totally wrong. Every race has their own racists. Even towards their own race. Indian people definitely look down on darker skinned Indians. You’ll never see a dark skinned Bollywood lady star.
He makes it quite clear when he says racism is the ability to determine someone's destiny. You might not agree with that definition but it's consistent with his claim.
@@seansmith3058 Based on his definition then 99.99% of white people can't be racist.
She was 100% right.
No she just was being politically correct
Christ, Bill that ending..
I remember being taken to the Mall as an 11yo kid in the early 90’s, & the blacks wouldn’t move out of the way of whites if they were walking in your direction. It was like an underlying thing where they weren’t going to cater to a white person, if you were white, you HAD to move, & Lord have Mercy if you walked into one of them…. That’s the sort of covert racial things you would encounter back then that fueled covert racial animosity (btw for every one thing that the blacks did, the whites probably did 10 because we’re so arrogant, we half the time can’t recognize that we’re doing it).
Bruh, if any of you have a hard time understanding what Ice T was saying, he's not saying that without money you can't live at all or have a house or simple shit like that, he's saying that her grandmother's garden isn't going to stop wars. She doesn't have the power in this system to stop dangerous oil pumping or enact laws. White people literally invented the money we all know now, they also made sure that black and native people had barely if anything to spend it on as you know, they were slaves.
And they were slaves for over 400 years, and let's address him pointing out that we didn't have banks like she thinks, we had banks but like black schools, they heavily underfunded them. Why do you think people who spent and were still spending time oppressing multiple groups of people would suddenly just give those people the means to buy back everything they stole? Hear that well, we have to BUY BACK everything they STOLE, everything that literally belongs to us and if you don't understand zoning laws, then you have zero idea how that mixed with gentrification have absolutely made it improbable for us to ever get back what belongs to us, and the only way we can even get anywhere near the microphone that actually matters is if we "impress" white people. We have to learn English and we have to be "civilized" for white people who savagely took our land.
And if any of you get the idea to bring up rappers, they have literally no power besides influence and as we've seen time and time again when black people use their influence (Sandra Bland, Malcolm X, MLK, Tupac, Nat Turner, Huey P. Newton, Fred Hampton, etc.) they will absolutely kill us and they'll make it look like whatever the fuck narrative they want it to be. We then have to work in white owned corporations who then get to use all that money to fund whatever they want, and now they look for ways to replace all of us with AI.
So I ask you all, is an old woman's garden going to have more power than the 4 chicken industries that own damn near all the chickens? More power than World Bank? More power than wealthy families who made all their money off the backs of her family and ancestors and still continue to do so?
Think about this….if a white guy says something hateful about the black race, and a black person says something hateful about the white race…is one worse than the other? You can call it whatever word you want but if you wanna pretend one is more hateful than the other….well thats racist!!! Or prejudice I guess🤷
Ice t Has a lot more experience than other people seem to forget 2:14.
Star is a brilliant woman where is she 26 years lTer
It's funny how many black ppl went up there and laughed with a man laughing at them and using them in the joke...
Damn the balls on bill at the end, he is so good for the culture
For real. I feel that if they didn't come over we wouldn't have what we have today. We wouldn't have been a successful country as we are today.
RIP Dick Gregory. Thank you for sharing the knowledge you had 🙏🏾
LMFAO he was mascot parading on the field with glow sticks b
Dick Gregory was an insane person who made zero sense.
I guy that was all about HATE
Damn back when there were NO spoiler alerts lol imagine all the people that hadn't seen empire strikes back yet... thanks Bill Lmao
The movie had been released for 14 years I think they're okay
Man, watching this in 2023 makes me thib about 2 things:
1. Sad thst we lost this type of conversation.
2. Debate about black racism always end aup in some shit throwing game.
I guess, by this old guys definition, Obama's election was racist because the white voters elected him. See, it's their white skin and their power over casting votes.
16:44 “I got this Jonathan”
Say whatever you want about belmar but he has read a lot of memoirs and autobiographies ...
If these networks could create something, that’s more powerful than it was years ago, and they would’ve imagined how wonderful it worked into 6:11.
Cant believe Ice-T is 63 now
She reminds me of a modern day Candace Owens lol (TROLL DISCLAIMER: I’m being funny)
I wish Dick wasn’t there. He’s said some things that were true if you understand him, but his chiming in really hurt the discussion.
The woman was absolutely right. The ones who disagreed were incorrect with her statements about who was holding the banks. Black people did own their own things at one point. Ice T was looking at it from a standpoint of “they’ve never allowed us to have anything.” That’s true, that’s why those banks and other businesses were built up purely of black wealth. White mobs were actually angry at black success and were hell bent on destroyed what they had built. Tulsa, Rosewood, Colfax, Atlanta, Elaine, Springfield, East St. Louis, and more are perfect examples of that, and those communities were never reimbursed.
He was “off” about nearly everything that came out of his mouth.
Is this really how he used to sound or is the upload messing with his voice
It is, and he sounds like, what it was. No sound alteration performed.
Dick Gregory was taking shite and Star Parker talked all the sense.
Man Bill has balls but fucking yikes with that last question.
Hes a comedian at heart
Interesting How ,iced t had a bit of he’s reminiscing facts on how people acted and how people see things encouraging most of the time in finish times. 1:47
Dolly The Cloned Sheep....nuff said
I like that lady she's normal
How fascinating how exhilarating? 2:03
I enjoy listening to Star Parker’s comments. She has more knowledge of history and its continuity..
I wish these conversations are taken to seniors in high school.. go back to other blacks prior and right after depression years who are still alive today..
Just like Pauli Murray called Negroes with capital N (and she was instrumental to RGB ‘s legislative/judicial work) and made others feel uncomfortable just a few years later Bc they called themselves Black.. We have to know history and appreciate the hard work and suffering of the ones prior to us..
No one really answered his question.
Twenty seven years later, and it still doesn’t deserve an answer. If you can’t understand why, that could be part of the problem….
Cool panel and90s Candace Owens..
I’ce t a og for real
this was a great show... really a pre cursor to so many, but to me Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn was better, because it was all comedians... but has bill maher changed ? no... not really, it seems like the same writers actually, if you posted this audio and labeled it "2023" would you notice ? no knock on bill but he bombs or slays with his writers... for decades... but his personality is the same, especially if you watch his Club Random show, that is bill, for years, he has been the same dude.
I’ve tea is the man
Poor bill.
That lady loves the sound of her own voice. She speaking nonsense
I agree with Ice T in that the billionaires control the country, but their wealth has nothing to do with race and everything to do with intelligence, choices and the willingness to do whatever it takes to become wealthy...all of which I don't have and neither does he.
That Dick Gregory Dude was clearly bitter and thus it clouded his willingness to entertain anything other than his own views. And I would have loved to hear Star's point of view, but Dick and T wouldn't shut up.
Dick Gregory is full of HATE .
Man, that announcer is annoying af
Let’s goooo
Holy cow, Bill's last question shows how ignorant he is. Are black Americans glad their culture, history, religion, humanity, freedom, etc was stripped away from their ancestors for hundreds of years and this country developed institutional racism that holds minorities down to this day? Then to tell a black woman that objects to that comment that she does not know what is going on in Africa is a prime example of Bill's white privilege and personal racism. Unbelievable.
What do u mean?
Actually some black people have made that point as well (including Walter Williams). Never in my life have I seen a black person here immigrate to Africa.....but I have seen Africans come here.
HAH?!
yaeh aint nobody white up dere neither, my n. dey be jew-ish n sheeit @12:30
black men cant be racist?? what dumb thought
You missed his point. His view on racism differs from yours
His view point is wrong. He has confused racism with power.@@Infam0usKiller
All black! Wow, these days he only has all Jewish guests. He even did a joke about not enough jews in Hollywood, then the next 6 guests, 5 were Jewish.... maybe even the 6th...
It b a mess cause yall want have none of the inventions black brought to America
Can you name a few of these inventions ?
According to Thomas Sowell welfare starting in the 60s caused the problems that we have today? Not before?
Bill was never funny