Thanks for the video. I've put 2,002 rounds through the stock barrel of my 6.5 PRC Ruger Precision over the last two years, using mostly 153 gr A-Tip and some 147 gr ELD-M. Velocities are from about 2,850 to 2,990 fps depending on the powders and primers I can get. The shooters around me always comment on "the short barrel life you'll get compared to 6.5 Creedmoor." Well, I regularly shoot this gun out to 1,000 yds and haven't noticed any decrease in accuracy. For me, warnings about barrel life just haven't played out.
@@robinsok I bought Hornady ammo to get the brass. I was fortunate enough to catch Hornady Match ammo in stock on Midway in April and bought 4 boxes. I don't know how guys manage to get Lapua or ADG brass in 6.5 PRC but it's out there apparently.
I've shot of stuff with my 30-06, 25-06. I fell in love with the 308. I thought I needed a flat shooter. So I picked up a Seekins Havak Brovo in 6.5 prc. I don't regret it one bit!! Flat shooting and light recoil!! And crazy accurate!!
If you had to pick one rifle, your 308 or your 6.5 PRC by Seekins, which one would you choose? I’ve also looked at Seekins precision rifles. Trying to figure out which caliber and which rifle manufacturer to get.
I own and hunt with more guns than I care to admit and I was convinced by my gunsmith that this is the hot new ticket. Of course, I had to have one. It’s being built now and I have been buying ammo, time will tell how much I will use it. Seems like the more I hunt, the more I tend to grab my old faithful .270 win.
The 6.5prc is ballistically no different than 270 wsm dam near identical with same ballistic coefficient bullets. That said the 270wsm is superior to the regular old 270
I really really like my PRC, if you reload, I highly recommend the 153 gr A-tip. I know it’s considered a match grade bullet but I can personally attest to it’s incredible effectiveness on large mule deer.
Remember guys the .300 Win Mag, 30-06 Springfield, .270 & .308 are not obsolete. They still work as always intended and they perform just fine like they always have.
Bought a 6.5 prc this spring, it has since taken 1 large black bear, 3 mule deer bucks and 1 bull elk. Ranging from 360 to 880 yards. All 1 shot kills.
Hey Jim. Just wanted to say thank you. I am new to hunting and bolt actions in general. I inherited a r700 that belonged to my grandfather chambered in 30-06 that sat in my safe for a decade. Just recently picked up an x bolt hells canyon in 6.5 PRC and bagged my first elk. I chose the caliber based off input from you and I couldn’t be happier. I’m hooked. I’m already perusing the web to pick up that Springfield 2020. Anyway (I’ll quite blowing you) but thanks and keep up the vids.
@@bradenherle8774 the 6.5 PRC is a bit more manageable. Not by a huge margin but my shoulder appreciates it. Just wish rounds didn’t cost an arm and a leg.
I've had a 6.5x55 Swedish for 18 years and it will do pretty much what a 6.5 creedmore will. Unfortunately it wasn't marketed in the U.S. Right. I have many popular calibers and they all work on all game in North America. It really depends on what one I take out. From 25-06 to 338 they will all take game with the most important part the right shot placement. Don't care how magical someone thinks their round is if you don't make a good shot well the animal suffers. Now if you just punch paper or steel go crazy reach out and see what it can do or more importantly what you can do I've seen some hitting out to a mile with these 6-7 mm fireballs!
@Rom vin Scott Stutzman is exactly correct. You are the clown insinuating that shot placement is not important. I know you didn't say it was not important, but calling Scott out this way insinuates it. Shot placement is probably the most important criteria. Now Scott didn't say it would "put an animal down lights out", he just said it was important. As for your claim of "thousands of video's of all kinds of animals that took off to be found a mile away or not found at all"...I don't think I have seen even one of these video's, probably because most people wont post them. Yes, this is an admission that it does happen and that is a shame. But of these thousands of video's you claim, how can you accurately know if the shot was placed well or not? You cant! In most if not all cases you are looking at a long distance video and you are certainly not doing post shot terminal ballistics. Calling Scott a clown is out of place. My guess is that Scott has hunted a great deal more than you. I am an old guy and I HAVE hunted and killed many animals over the years, bullet placement is paramount. The only thing Scott didn't mention is that between a 25-06 and the 338 is that you MIGHT have a little more room for shot placement error with the 338. I don't normally comment but you are out of place on this one. I think his comments are pretty much spot on.
I think 25 06 has more power then 30 30 which is still used alot. Plus realistically people have taken game with .22 caliber cartridges. And taken big game with 30 06
Thanks for doing the reviews and all of the expense that comes with it on some of these cartridges and rifles that many of us would never have a chance get our hands on. Great Job!!
when i got into the hunting world around me. the 30 06 was the cartridge to have because it would shoot bullet weight from 55 gr to 220 gr. lot of people loved that. I still have some 55 gr. accelator left.
If the ammo situation this year has taught me anything, it's that I need a .243 rifle. Other rounds are out of stock or twice as expensive as usual, but I almost always see stacks of .243 available at all the LGS around me. Maybe that's not the case everywhere.
@@jmkhenka Well, it comes down to what you want to use it for. 100+ gr bullets can cause issues with magazine length loading and your chamber throat / freebore. But I would argue most people using 100+ gr in a .243 are loading their own ammo for long range precision, where those concerns aren't an issue, due to single loading and custom reamed chambers. The vast majority of hunters and plinkers will be at 95 gr or under. My initial comment was more along basic availability for the average shooter, where .243 Win is far ahead of 6 CM and 6 Rem.
All I use in my 243 is 100grain Remington corelokts and I also get handloads alot from a buddy that loads them to spec like the Remington ammo I use plus he hand loads me a special hot load using 120 grain 6mm bullets. So no hand load issues. I wish ammo makers would offer store bought ammo for it with 120 and a little bigger. When it was developed back in the day it was a varmint round with the lighter bullets and folks found it was a fine deer round with the 100grain so no other larger offerings were made or thought necessary
I had one of the first Christensen arms Ridgeline’s chambered in 28 Nosler here in Canada. Ammo, brass and dies disappeared and after almost 3 years I sold it.... Now, 1.5 years later, 28 Nosler ammo is readily available and I want another one. 👌🏽
Would like to see a review of the Mauser M18 in PRC. I picked one up earlier this year at Eurooptic for $379. Awesome gun for the price point. 5 shot MOA guarantee.
I live in WY. Its popular here cuz we own everything else already!! Most guns per person in the US. 🤠 Thanks for a good info video! I definitely need to check out your other sites
Remember when the 30-06 was advertised as "From Chucks to Charging Lions" Best then and still one of the best today. Can find a box of 30-06 any where to include Mule Shoe Texas.
The cool thing that makes the 30-06 so versatile is that the initial military loadings were 220 grain bullets which necessitated a high twist rate in the barrel. Unlike a lot of great cartridges that got hamstrung by slow twist rates the 30-06 was not one of them. Couple that with a reasonable case capacity and recoil and, while graying in the beard, it's still an excellent general purpose cartridge.
Only thing I think the smaller diameter bullets lack is the width of the wound channel. If you double the diameter of the bullet with the mushrooming, the 30. Cal just makes a way bigger hole. The bigger wound channel is whats gonna really help you with a lung or liver shot.
Wrong with modern bullets expansion diameter (and thus wound channel diameter) can easily be controlled by bullet construction. Typically 6.5mm has higher sectional density which is better not worse for hunting.
@@gsxr1189 Bigger bullet still bigger wound channel, yes you can control expansion with bullet construction, but then you can just buy the same bullet in .30 and still have a bigger wound channel. Sectional density only plays part in penetration, if it was all about penetration, why not use FMJ bullets for hunting (illegal because it does not expand). Expansion along with penetration is whats going to give you a big enough wound channel to cause blood pressure to drop quick enough for the animal to expire quickly. I don't want my Kudu to run kilometres into the bush after I shot it.
@@jonathanmitchell3733 Wrong. Bore diameter alone has no impact on terminal performance if a 6.5mm and 30 cal bullet both hit the same target and both were producing say 2000 ft/lbs energy on impact and both expanded to say 0.6" the wound channels produced by both would be the same because physics.
@@gsxr1189 Wrong. If I hit you with a baseball bat or a large ball with 2000Ft/Ibs you would get knocked back, but definitely not permanently hurt, because science. Furthermore, Both projectiles will not expand the same diameter consistently (comparing apples to apples). You are correct in saying no one element can determine the effectiveness of a bullet, but bore diameter plays a big role when we are comparing apples to apples in bullets. Remember that the only thing (except a brain or neck shot, and one other lucky way) that kills the animal is a drop in blood pressure, so the brain is starved of oxygen or inhibiting breathing so the brain is starved of oxygen. Either way the bigger the hole cut in the tissue, the quicker the brain will be starved of oxygen.
Totally agree. But the 6.5 PRC and 30-06 are apples and oranges. The PRC is a short action and designed for high BC bullets that retain velocity and deflect wind at range. Both have their place but if shooting shorter range or larger game the 06 has the advantage
You have a great youtube channel, I have a 6.5prc and haven't been able to get any reloader 26 to load in it, got 120gr. bullets to 3150fps with superformance and it's crazy accurate. I've had three 264 win mags, the 6.5 prc kills well but so far it's not the lightning bolt killer the 264's I've had were. I went for the 6.5 prc because of the better barrel life over the 264, the last one I had serious throat erosion and significant velocity loss after 600 rounds. IMR 7828 is a barrel killer in 264 when loaded to the maximum.
@@Pew_pewchronicles Not if you consider the barrel life. The difference is up to 10 times. Also 308 has better killing power at close and medium ranges. Better bullet weights selection. Creedmoor is here only because of PRS and F class Open.
@Nicholas Rodriguez Ruger and Savage were making budget and high end rifles years before the military adopted it. It was the third best selling cartridge when the military picked it up, trailing only .308 and .223
@Nicholas Rodriguez I was only counting rifle cartridges. It was the third best selling rifle cartridge for a long time before the military picked it up.
Great data & perspective. Not a bad offering for sure. I looked @ it when I first heard of it. I concluded it was a modern offering of 264 Win Mag. We called it a "barrel burner" back in the day. I went with 7mm Rem Mag & never looked back. Any of these 25-33 caliber high power rifles are more than adequate for most all North American "big game". Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.
not that difficult to "see"/tell really..... it's not like all of a sudden one day it turns 180 degrees on you. You'll know it's time.... when you've been shooting MOA/SUB-MOA... and then your grouping starts to open up with the same ammo you've been shooting all along
@@gunfunandstuff9226have you burned one out? In my decades of hunting/shooting I haven’t or know anyone personally that has. I’m sure competitive shooters do it all the time…
Great video. Just a comment, the reason the velocity has a big Saiyan energy is that velocity is squared in the equation where is bullet weight is simply linear. Faster is better up to a point. Then all hell breaks loose…
Seriously great content. Thanks for putting this out here it really helped me decide that this caliber is what I was looking for. Hit all the important parts without being verbose. Thanks for the content.
Try the 7x 64 Brenneke. It is a 7mm equivalent of the 30-06 ( 7.62 x 63 ) , sweet shooting with a flatter trajectory than the -06. Brenneke designed this round in 1920 to replace the 7.92 x 57 German military calibre. It is the most popular cartridge in Germany today. Personally I prefer the 7x 57 Mauser, for I have used a 375 h&h since the age of 12yrs and I find the 7mm Mauser has the same trajectory with a 175gr Sierra game king as a 375 with a 300 gr Norma. I also use the 250 gr Hornady and find it good for 350 metres or should I say 1and 3/4 furlongs ; to put it into Imperial / American terms.
Thanks for the great reviews. You really know how to do your homework and give us well compiled facts and info. Also please keep doing the ballistic gel tests. They give a good idea for the stoping power and the temp wound channel of different bullets.
6.5 Grendel is the bomb, especially with good handloads. I absolutely would take a 6.5GR over pretty much anything else. (Wish that IWI would put out a Tavor in it...)
And a 300PRC outperforms 270wsm but they aren't in the same class of caliber either because you have 15-20% more powder charge but 6.5 PRC will still run you down and pass you given enough distance because 277 cal BC's are garbage. Before you come back with the standard fudd response but but muh rifles only for hunting so distance don't matter try reading the 2nd amendment because rifles are not just for hunting.
@@gsxr1189 .277 bullets. the 2 most popular were just not designed for long, high bc bullets. a .277 bullet will have a higher BC than a .308 bullet if using the same bullet weight and the same ogive profile. i think its funny the .270 wsm fell into the same trap. it should have been designed for with a 160 grain bullet as the standard, pushed to 3100 fps with room and powder capacity to shoot 180 and 190 bullets. it would be the darling of the shooting industry.
For a short time Ruger was marketing the 270wsm in their MDL 77. I was lucky enough to get one and have always been pleased with the performance. I had some work done on the bedding and trigger and it is a very accurate rifle.
@@TheWarriorsMind I know a few guys who live out in the Great Plains regions in the US who sometimes have to take a shot like that. Longest shot I ever took hunting was 400 yards on a mule deer. That said, where I reside, 99% of my hunting is brush stalking and 45 yards or closer. Seldom do I get a longer stretch out beyond 70 yards. So yeah, all on what you like but I'd say it's a fair assessment that most people aren't going to shoot ranges like that EXCEPT at a range.
I hope so. I'm so god damn fed-up with the 308 train of praise. I bought a brand new tikka t3x in 3006 and I got flack from other hunters, Why you buying that old caliber,It is more recoil, precision is better in 308, shorter boltthrow and so on. 3006 does what I whant from it. It kills what I shoot. I really hope the 6,5 prc gets momentum it's a interesting caliber.
I bought a 6.5 PRC in Browning's new Hell's Canyon Long Range Rifle. It has a 26" fluted barrel and it's the most accurate rifle I own now. Ammo is available online but I have been able to buy it off the shelf at my local gun store in match grade and hunting ammo.
Absolutely love my 6.5 prc shot nice whitetail and antelope one shot. My brother shot his 6 point bull elk one shot. All.shot with swift and accubond reloads.
To what I heard, the SMK's have a thin jacket and there is a OTM Version of it, that has a small hollow tip, which will fragment even at lower Velocitys. If the bullet Fragments or Mushrooms, both will do well, as long as they penetrate enough.
I still own a 300WM and 270 Win, but I also have both 6.5’s from Hornady and soon a 7PRC. I agree, the classics are great, but I love playing with the new designs!
I just bought a 6.5 PRC Ruger American Go Wild and it actually feels like the recoil is much less than a .308. possibly less than my 6.5 grendel even, which is a pleasant surprise. I have also only shot norma 147gr long range hunting ammunition, as it was the least expensive at my local Scheels. At about 40 a box of 20.
I’ve switch from archery due to severe shoulder injury. I’ve picked out the rifle and the scope. I’ve landed on the .270. I feel like all the information out there, that it feels like I’m looking up a symptom on web-md. I hunt deer and ek. I’m not sure of the distances I’ll shoot, it’s been decades since I was in the Marines and I was an excellent shot. It’s all about what I feel is my own ethical range that will put them down effectively.
270 is a good choice for all-round hunting use without being too much of a shoulder whopper. Maybe a bit light for elk at longer ranges but perfectly adequate for moderate ranges. I personally limit my elk shots to 300 yards under normal hunting conditons with over the counter ammo.
had a guy at benchrest (hunter class) that had a 308 in normal wood hunting stock, he has 20 000 rounds through the barrel and still shot 5 x 5 groups avrage of 17mm at 100 meters. And he didnt even have to clean it in the entire match.
I like how all of these new fancy rounds are chasing what the Swedish accomplished in 1894. Or even what the USA accomplished in 1906. Or even what the Swiss accomplished in 1911.
with the 6.5 PRC it is a Hand Loaders caliber. Once you get 150-200 rounds through your barrel you will see a 150-200 fps pick up in speed. I currently run 142 ELD-X at 3130 in my hunting rifle and 152 a-tips at 3097 in my target rifle. when it comes to barrel life people forget that you are going to spend $5,000 dollars before you replace a $500 dollar barrel.
Great video! Wondering where you get your stats (such as #21 flattest shooting)? Was trying to Google your stats and didn't come up with anything. Love reading stats, so if you could share that would be AWESOME!! Once again, strong work on the video. I have a 6.5 PRC and a Creed. Love shooting both.
Availability is the most important thing keeping it back. I can get 6.5 Creedmoor, the PRC is near unobtanium in my area. Creedmoor is here to stay for sure, the PRC I'm much less sure about. The speed difference also isn't massive over the creedmoor.
@@richardrisner3635 Yeah but the same can be said of the Creedmoor. I'm pushing 140s 2850 with the Creedmoor probably just get me to about 3k or just over with the PRC.
The 6.5mm Rem Mag has been shooting 3200 fps since 1966. Too bad Remington made the actions too short. Severely limited bullet selection. It still rocks!
@@gsxr1189 They've hosed me twice. The latest is the 300 RSAUM. Developed it, sold it then kicked it off the curb. Love the rifle. Accurate, hard hitting. No more $$ of mine going to Remington!
I'm pretty sure the 3,200 fps number is because it's the max velocity allowed in whatever competition George from Ga. Precision competes in. Most likely the PRC. You gotta take into account twist rate when comparing cartridges as a lot of cartridges suffered due to slow twist rates making them unable to stabilize the high bc bullets that are so popular.
You are correct. That’s the limit for PRS matches and George wanted to bump up against that 3,200 limit in a short action and liked the bullet selection of 6.5
I own a Ruger M77 Hawkeye LRT in 6.5 PRC. It makes 1,000 yards seem like 100. But, I can’t recommend it until the ammo situation is resolved. I was lucky to find brass to reload. It’s also been a challenge finding the heavier 6.5 bullets. There just doesn’t seem to be load data for anything lighter than 140 gr.
They are also really short selling the energy on the 30-06. You could get a 180 grain bullet going 2800 FPS at the muzzle which would get your energy at 3200 ft.lbs
Don't be surprised Jim if my wife calls you and complains. I am using this video and your video on the Sako S20 6.5 PRC as the bases for buying the Sako. Another great evidence-based video.
My father and I had an interesting experience with the 6.5 prc this weekend and elk hunting. We took a cow elk with the 6.5 prc. She was facing away at about 125 yards. The only available shot was a neck/head shot. The shot was made right at the base of the skull for an immediate kill. This shot was made because the rifle is such a kitten to shoot, it groups at about .5 inch at 100yrds. The bottom line is it is about shot placement for any cartridge, the value of this cartridge is accuracy over power and this cartridge allowed for a clean kill and shot that would not have been possible with some of the heavier caliber rifles my family hunts with. With that said, it also has plenty of horsepower.
6.5 PRC is here to stay. The same hollow criticisms pointed at 6.5 Creed for years are the same ones now directed at 6.5 PRC. Unlike 224 Valkyrie, the smaller Nosler cartridges, 6.8 Western, etc, 6.5 PRC is now offered by several manufacturers. The most valid criticism of the cartridge is that its sudden popularity has meant Hornady is struggling to meet demand for the ammunition and fresh brass disappears from store shelves in an instant. 6.5 PRC is what 6.5 Creed should have been. It's here to stay. Now that I think of it, everyone should avoid 6.5 PRC like the plague. If you already bought ammo, I'll help you get rid of it. I could probably even throw you a few bucks to help you out.
Out to 400 yards or so, if you can compensate for drop easy enough, it's not all about the energy numbers. Sometimes a larger bullet holds as much or more advantage. 7mm class or 30cal class stuff in a lower recoil option is equally or more effective. 7mm-08, 7x57, 280 Rem, 7mm Rem mag, 308 Win, 30-06. Get within 200 yards and the .30-30 would put them down handily.
The really neat round for those who want to go to the firing line without handicap is 6.5/284. It is MOA at 1000 in wind that’s properly appraised up to about 500 rounds.
I completely disagree. The .270 WSM is a short action the acheives 3,300 FPS with a 130 grain cartridge shoots 3,250 FPS with a 140 grain. That's over the counter ammo as well. If you hand load it is capable of so much more. Plus, the .270 WSM has at a minimum 250 more lbs of energy.
Yeah, but the name of the game right now is High BC. it's why 270 WIN isn't as popular, though it kind of is getting a bit popular with the 150 and 165 grain projectiles around. If 270 WSM would have been spec'd with a 1:8 twist, we might have not seen or had such a huge urge for the 6.5 PRC.
By 270 wsm are you talking Winchester short magnum or Winchester super magnum cause from my understanding the super magnum isn’t a short action my brother has the 270 Winchester super magnum and those casings are like a half inch longer then the 30-06
@@TheShmeebitdog Short mag WSM. Not super short WSSM. There are no manufacturers that even make rifles in that caliber anymore than I am aware of...just custom stuff. Same for the .223 and .243 wssm.
@@carlosfigueroa847 so you are a target guy I assume? If you're a hunter, you always want to throw more lead down range. It's about being ethical. Woodleigh makes a 180 grain .277 cal reload bullet. That in a .270 WSM would take out a grizzly easily with one shot. Don't get me wrong, I see guys shooting moose with the PRC. It takes them 2 or 3 shots to down it though. Same for elk unless you are extremely lucky and happen to hit between a rib in the right spot to hit the heart. Nothing more heart breaking than shooting an animal and having to track it a mile or two knowing that it suffered in agony for that mile or two. 6.5 prc is a perfect round for mule deer or elk that are really close. It's more than BC dude...its ethics. Unless you are a target shooter. Then shoot your 6.5 PRC all day long then. If I had to pick a PRC, it would be the .300 PRC for hunt bigger undulants like elk and moose. Use the 6.5 for caribou or mule deer. Note, my 6.5x55 Swedish handloads perform just as well as a 6.5 PRC w/143gr Norma (it's balistically superior to the Hornady). You can put a 160 grain in that case. (You can't in the 6.5 PRC because of the short case and the extreme angle from the main body to the neck).
an underrated cartridge for sure. I think as with a lot of Remington designed cartridges, they were released at a bad time and often overshadowed. I shot some of my first few deer with my dad’s 280 Rem 700. Lovely rifle.
If lapua makes brass it’s here to stay for a long long time. Over bore for a .264 bullet was figured out 130 years ago. Aaaaaand now we in America have finally done it. We’ve made another case to max out the 6.5 lol. It’s gonna be all about the brass.
Just bought a browning x bolt western hunter in 6.5 PRC. Very excited to try it out. Its my first ever rifle I have owned. I have shot my dads remington 7400 30-06 and that will be passed down to me.
@@fordracer1415 got lucky at academy one day walking around. But sign up for the email restock update from Midway.com. Of all the websites, they've actually gotten some here and there.. I've orded 9 boxes from them. You gotta be quick though. They lg fast.
I Have 4 Gray Carbon In 26 Inch Barrels. These Do Everything & I Ask Of It. From Coyote. Wild Texas Hog With Using Mostly Thermals. Mule Deer. Elk With Correct Shot Placement I Did. Precision Out Past 1350 Yards & Some Change. My Home Defense. (CQB) Truck. Capacity Are My 2 Radians & 2 Geissele In 5.56 To 850-1000 Yards Depending On The Several Variables. I Appreciate Your Coverage & Keep The Honesty Coming.
When all the ammo is drying up early in the pandemic this was the one cartridge that was still on the shelf and I should have grabbed more of it. Sometimes those obscure cartridges that are easier to find, but then the popular it is round took off now I can't find it anywhere ;-p
@@huntershort7936 Apparently. I'm sure you know how all of these caliber debates become an emotional dick measuring contest. I'll never understand why people get so emotionally attached to a certain caliber
I have a Christensen Arms Ridgeline but I never shoot it because in a year I was able to buy 2 boxes of ammo. You can find 6.5 PRC online but it is $119-$149 for 10 rounds. I spend around $75 a box for 50 BMG.
Thanks for the video. I've put 2,002 rounds through the stock barrel of my 6.5 PRC Ruger Precision over the last two years, using mostly 153 gr A-Tip and some 147 gr ELD-M. Velocities are from about 2,850 to 2,990 fps depending on the powders and primers I can get. The shooters around me always comment on "the short barrel life you'll get compared to 6.5 Creedmoor." Well, I regularly shoot this gun out to 1,000 yds and haven't noticed any decrease in accuracy. For me, warnings about barrel life just haven't played out.
I can attest to this statement as well. My Ruger precision has 20 shots through it. Still going strong. 😂😂😂
But seriously, this is promising info, ty!
Bob Brown where are you finding brass for the 6.5PRC?
@@robinsok I bought Hornady ammo to get the brass. I was fortunate enough to catch Hornady Match ammo in stock on Midway in April and bought 4 boxes. I don't know how guys manage to get Lapua or ADG brass in 6.5 PRC but it's out there apparently.
Great video Jim, I'm loving my 65PRC
@@hochhaul Fast forward 2023. 2 bones a case for Lapua and I was glad to find it. Go figure.
I've shot of stuff with my 30-06, 25-06. I fell in love with the 308. I thought I needed a flat shooter. So I picked up a Seekins Havak Brovo in 6.5 prc. I don't regret it one bit!! Flat shooting and light recoil!! And crazy accurate!!
If you had to pick one rifle, your 308 or your 6.5 PRC by Seekins, which one would you choose? I’ve also looked at Seekins precision rifles. Trying to figure out which caliber and which rifle manufacturer to get.
I own and hunt with more guns than I care to admit and I was convinced by my gunsmith that this is the hot new ticket. Of course, I had to have one. It’s being built now and I have been buying ammo, time will tell how much I will use it. Seems like the more I hunt, the more I tend to grab my old faithful .270 win.
Based on what I've seen/shot...if you like that .270win you will really like the 6.5 PRC
The 6.5prc is ballistically no different than 270 wsm dam near identical with same ballistic coefficient bullets. That said the 270wsm is superior to the regular old 270
Same here👍🏼
Not no more the 6.8prc is the top for long range flat shooting hunting round
I really really like my PRC, if you reload, I highly recommend the 153 gr A-tip. I know it’s considered a match grade bullet but I can personally attest to it’s incredible effectiveness on large mule deer.
Remember guys the .300 Win Mag, 30-06 Springfield, .270 & .308 are not obsolete. They still work as always intended and they perform just fine like they always have.
Bought a 6.5 prc this spring, it has since taken 1 large black bear, 3 mule deer bucks and 1 bull elk. Ranging from 360 to 880 yards. All 1 shot kills.
damn, your freezer must be stacked?!?!
How did you get 1 black bear,3 mule deer and a bull elk in one fuckin season???
@@greglebrun7047 lol
It always amazes me just how much hunters worry about barrel life when they only shoot a box of 20 rounds in a year
Then there’s those of us who will burn a barrel up in a year because we practice more than we should 😁
And now with the price of ammo lol ,
I heard about a father and son that shared a deer rifle. They brought a box of the exact same ammunition every ten years.
Sooooooo wrong. Dont make assumptions
Only city boy hunters shoot one box a year lol
Hey Jim. Just wanted to say thank you. I am new to hunting and bolt actions in general. I inherited a r700 that belonged to my grandfather chambered in 30-06 that sat in my safe for a decade. Just recently picked up an x bolt hells canyon in 6.5 PRC and bagged my first elk. I chose the caliber based off input from you and I couldn’t be happier. I’m hooked. I’m already perusing the web to pick up that Springfield 2020. Anyway (I’ll quite blowing you) but thanks and keep up the vids.
How do you like the recoil vs 30-06?
@@bradenherle8774 the 6.5 PRC is a bit more manageable. Not by a huge margin but my shoulder appreciates it. Just wish rounds didn’t cost an arm and a leg.
30 ought 6 is definatly my favorite rifle cartridge
Yes. ...but it kicks like a mule....
But excellent...caliber
@@makeamericagreatagain7314 itll kick, but ive never noticed recoil until after my shooting at a range, let alone on game
I've had a 6.5x55 Swedish for 18 years and it will do pretty much what a 6.5 creedmore will. Unfortunately it wasn't marketed in the U.S. Right. I have many popular calibers and they all work on all game in North America. It really depends on what one I take out. From 25-06 to 338 they will all take game with the most important part the right shot placement. Don't care how magical someone thinks their round is if you don't make a good shot well the animal suffers. Now if you just punch paper or steel go crazy reach out and see what it can do or more importantly what you can do I've seen some hitting out to a mile with these 6-7 mm fireballs!
@Rom vin Scott Stutzman is exactly correct. You are the clown insinuating that shot placement is not important. I know you didn't say it was not important, but calling Scott out this way insinuates it. Shot placement is probably the most important criteria. Now Scott didn't say it would "put an animal down lights out", he just said it was important. As for your claim of "thousands of video's of all kinds of animals that took off to be found a mile away or not found at all"...I don't think I have seen even one of these video's, probably because most people wont post them. Yes, this is an admission that it does happen and that is a shame. But of these thousands of video's you claim, how can you accurately know if the shot was placed well or not? You cant! In most if not all cases you are looking at a long distance video and you are certainly not doing post shot terminal ballistics. Calling Scott a clown is out of place. My guess is that Scott has hunted a great deal more than you. I am an old guy and I HAVE hunted and killed many animals over the years, bullet placement is paramount. The only thing Scott didn't mention is that between a 25-06 and the 338 is that you MIGHT have a little more room for shot placement error with the 338. I don't normally comment but you are out of place on this one. I think his comments are pretty much spot on.
I think a big reason the 6.5 Creedmoor took off is that it is seen as a competitor for the 308 in AR10 platform. Unfortunately, the Swede won't fit.
I think 25 06 has more power then 30 30 which is still used alot.
Plus realistically people have taken game with .22 caliber cartridges. And taken big game with 30 06
Thanks for doing the reviews and all of the expense that comes with it on some of these cartridges and rifles that many of us would never have a chance get our hands on. Great Job!!
The .30-06. The Swiss Army Knife of cartridges. Does everything in a serviceable fashion.
they did a vid on the 30-06
cant argue with 114 years of success
It does and it doesn’t.
30.06? I'm not sure about this newfangled ammo yet. Sticking with rimmed. 303 for now.
@@joshsinglefooter Well now, being over 100 years old that's a straw man argument.
I am a "for the fun of it" long distance shooter. I recently purchase a Ruger Precision 6.5PRC. I've found it extremely accurate and a bunch 'o' fun.
when i got into the hunting world around me. the 30 06 was the cartridge to have because it would shoot bullet weight from 55 gr to 220 gr. lot of people loved that. I still have some 55 gr. accelator left.
That one will smoke on down range
If the ammo situation this year has taught me anything, it's that I need a .243 rifle. Other rounds are out of stock or twice as expensive as usual, but I almost always see stacks of .243 available at all the LGS around me. Maybe that's not the case everywhere.
so, 6 creedmoor or 6 remington? 243 is more common sure, but not as easy to reload.. and it might not like the 100-ish grain bullets.
@@jmkhenka Well, it comes down to what you want to use it for.
100+ gr bullets can cause issues with magazine length loading and your chamber throat / freebore. But I would argue most people using 100+ gr in a .243 are loading their own ammo for long range precision, where those concerns aren't an issue, due to single loading and custom reamed chambers. The vast majority of hunters and plinkers will be at 95 gr or under.
My initial comment was more along basic availability for the average shooter, where .243 Win is far ahead of 6 CM and 6 Rem.
243 is a fantastic round let the idiots follow the fad a blr in 243 is my fav my 6.5 swede will still wipe the floor with the creedmor
All I use in my 243 is 100grain Remington corelokts and I also get handloads alot from a buddy that loads them to spec like the Remington ammo I use plus he hand loads me a special hot load using 120 grain 6mm bullets. So no hand load issues. I wish ammo makers would offer store bought ammo for it with 120 and a little bigger.
When it was developed back in the day it was a varmint round with the lighter bullets and folks found it was a fine deer round with the 100grain so no other larger offerings were made or thought necessary
Far as 243 my next ar is going to be in 243. Same ar10 upper lower and mag just a different barrel.
I'd love to see one of these on the 28 nosler
I had one of the first Christensen arms Ridgeline’s chambered in 28 Nosler here in Canada. Ammo, brass and dies disappeared and after almost 3 years I sold it.... Now, 1.5 years later, 28 Nosler ammo is readily available and I want another one. 👌🏽
Same
Same. Been leaning towards trying a 28 Nos
28 nosler is king
Now your talking. Absolute beast under .30
Would like to see a review of the Mauser M18 in PRC. I picked one up earlier this year at Eurooptic for $379. Awesome gun for the price point. 5 shot MOA guarantee.
I live in WY. Its popular here cuz we own everything else already!! Most guns per person in the US. 🤠
Thanks for a good info video! I definitely need to check out your other sites
Love the cartridge profile section on your website. I’m surprised you don’t have the .308 profiled. The most popular cartridge around.
It is a great round.
The most boring cartridge around
Remember when the 30-06 was advertised as "From Chucks to Charging Lions" Best then and still one of the best today. Can find a box of 30-06 any where to include Mule Shoe Texas.
Yep. 30-06 isn't real fancy, but gets the job done pretty much every time, and ammo is everywhere.
100% agree...if you have to deviate, base it off the 06 case.
We are out of 30/06 in Montana
@@milkrvr4088 better than being out of 284 Norma.
The cool thing that makes the 30-06 so versatile is that the initial military loadings were 220 grain bullets which necessitated a high twist rate in the barrel. Unlike a lot of great cartridges that got hamstrung by slow twist rates the 30-06 was not one of them. Couple that with a reasonable case capacity and recoil and, while graying in the beard, it's still an excellent general purpose cartridge.
You guys do a great job, thank you. Straightforward and approachable. I like it.
I'd love to see a profile on 7mm rem mag!
Best cartridge imo
Only thing I think the smaller diameter bullets lack is the width of the wound channel. If you double the diameter of the bullet with the mushrooming, the 30. Cal just makes a way bigger hole. The bigger wound channel is whats gonna really help you with a lung or liver shot.
Wrong with modern bullets expansion diameter (and thus wound channel diameter) can easily be controlled by bullet construction. Typically 6.5mm has higher sectional density which is better not worse for hunting.
@@gsxr1189 Bigger bullet still bigger wound channel, yes you can control expansion with bullet construction, but then you can just buy the same bullet in .30 and still have a bigger wound channel.
Sectional density only plays part in penetration, if it was all about penetration, why not use FMJ bullets for hunting (illegal because it does not expand).
Expansion along with penetration is whats going to give you a big enough wound channel to cause blood pressure to drop quick enough for the animal to expire quickly.
I don't want my Kudu to run kilometres into the bush after I shot it.
@Great White Let's face it, thats 80% of all hunters doing it wrong. ha ha ha
@@jonathanmitchell3733 Wrong. Bore diameter alone has no impact on terminal performance if a 6.5mm and 30 cal bullet both hit the same target and both were producing say 2000 ft/lbs energy on impact and both expanded to say 0.6" the wound channels produced by both would be the same because physics.
@@gsxr1189 Wrong. If I hit you with a baseball bat or a large ball with 2000Ft/Ibs you would get knocked back, but definitely not permanently hurt, because science. Furthermore, Both projectiles will not expand the same diameter consistently (comparing apples to apples). You are correct in saying no one element can determine the effectiveness of a bullet, but bore diameter plays a big role when we are comparing apples to apples in bullets.
Remember that the only thing (except a brain or neck shot, and one other lucky way) that kills the animal is a drop in blood pressure, so the brain is starved of oxygen or inhibiting breathing so the brain is starved of oxygen. Either way the bigger the hole cut in the tissue, the quicker the brain will be starved of oxygen.
Totally agree. But the 6.5 PRC and 30-06 are apples and oranges. The PRC is a short action and designed for high BC bullets that retain velocity and deflect wind at range. Both have their place but if shooting shorter range or larger game the 06 has the advantage
So glad you profiled the 6.5 PRC!! Thanks a ton for putting these awesome vids (and that incredible site) together. Much appreciated.
You have a great youtube channel, I have a 6.5prc and haven't been able to get any reloader 26 to load in it, got 120gr. bullets to 3150fps with superformance and it's crazy accurate. I've had three 264 win mags, the 6.5 prc kills well but so far it's not the lightning bolt killer the 264's I've had were. I went for the 6.5 prc because of the better barrel life over the 264, the last one I had serious throat erosion and significant velocity loss after 600 rounds. IMR 7828 is a barrel killer in 264 when loaded to the maximum.
Still can’t believe I’m waiting on a 308 review.
Me too.
@@Pew_pewchronicles Not if you consider the barrel life. The difference is up to 10 times. Also 308 has better killing power at close and medium ranges. Better bullet weights selection. Creedmoor is here only because of PRS and F class Open.
@Nicholas Rodriguez that’s just not true. The 6.5 creedmor became popular years before the military had anything to do with it.
@Nicholas Rodriguez Ruger and Savage were making budget and high end rifles years before the military adopted it. It was the third best selling cartridge when the military picked it up, trailing only .308 and .223
@Nicholas Rodriguez I was only counting rifle cartridges. It was the third best selling rifle cartridge for a long time before the military picked it up.
Great data & perspective. Not a bad offering for sure. I looked @ it when I first heard of it. I concluded it was a modern offering of 264 Win Mag. We called it a "barrel burner" back in the day. I went with 7mm Rem Mag & never looked back. Any of these 25-33 caliber high power rifles are more than adequate for most all North American "big game".
Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.
The .264 win mag is the BEST middle weight caliber. Tragic that garbage calibers like 6.5PRC exist instead of the .264 being king of the hill.
Wow!! That caliber profile feature of your site is INCREDIBLE!!! Please do more calibers!!
It would be cool to show a barrel that you’ve shot out and the difference in accuracy between a shot out barrel and one that’s not.
not that difficult to "see"/tell really..... it's not like all of a sudden one day it turns 180 degrees on you. You'll know it's time.... when you've been shooting MOA/SUB-MOA... and then your grouping starts to open up with the same ammo you've been shooting all along
@@gunfunandstuff9226have you burned one out? In my decades of hunting/shooting I haven’t or know anyone personally that has. I’m sure competitive shooters do it all the time…
I just discovered your channel and I can’t figure out why I never stumbled across it before. Great content! You have a new subscriber.
Great video. Just a comment, the reason the velocity has a big Saiyan energy is that velocity is squared in the equation where is bullet weight is simply linear. Faster is better up to a point. Then all hell breaks loose…
Great video. I just bought a 6.5 PRC haven’t hunted with it yet. I’m mostly old school but I like to try new things too.
Seriously great content. Thanks for putting this out here it really helped me decide that this caliber is what I was looking for. Hit all the important parts without being verbose. Thanks for the content.
Try the 7x 64 Brenneke. It is a 7mm equivalent of the 30-06 ( 7.62 x 63 ) , sweet shooting with a flatter trajectory than the -06. Brenneke designed this round in 1920 to replace the 7.92 x 57 German military calibre. It is the most popular cartridge in Germany today. Personally I prefer the 7x 57 Mauser, for I have used a 375 h&h since the age of 12yrs and I find the 7mm Mauser has the same trajectory with a 175gr Sierra game king as a 375 with a 300 gr Norma. I also use the 250 gr Hornady and find it good for 350 metres or should I say 1and 3/4 furlongs ; to put it into Imperial / American terms.
Thanks for the great reviews. You really know how to do your homework and give us well compiled facts and info. Also please keep doing the ballistic gel tests. They give a good idea for the stoping power and the temp wound channel of different bullets.
6.5 PRC took down my whitetail buck this year as well as my buddies moose.
Terrific round with great versatility!
I personally prefer a 270 wsm with a 130-150 grain pill but 6.5 prc is cool too
Currently I only have 6.5 grendel and I love it. Time to start doing research and looking into 6.5 prc.
6.5 Grendel is the bomb, especially with good handloads. I absolutely would take a 6.5GR over pretty much anything else. (Wish that IWI would put out a Tavor in it...)
A 270 short mag in the proper bullet out performs the PRC with more energy, same dropped and same drift. Availability of ammo is key
And a 300PRC outperforms 270wsm but they aren't in the same class of caliber either because you have 15-20% more powder charge but 6.5 PRC will still run you down and pass you given enough distance because 277 cal BC's are garbage. Before you come back with the standard fudd response but but muh rifles only for hunting so distance don't matter try reading the 2nd amendment because rifles are not just for hunting.
@@gsxr1189 who actually hunts (shoots) over 500 yds ... It all on what you like
@@gsxr1189 .277 bullets. the 2 most popular were just not designed for long, high bc bullets. a .277 bullet will have a higher BC than a .308 bullet if using the same bullet weight and the same ogive profile. i think its funny the .270 wsm fell into the same trap. it should have been designed for with a 160 grain bullet as the standard, pushed to 3100 fps with room and powder capacity to shoot 180 and 190 bullets. it would be the darling of the shooting industry.
For a short time Ruger was marketing the 270wsm in their MDL 77. I was lucky enough to get one and have always been pleased with the performance. I had some work done on the bedding and trigger and it is a very accurate rifle.
@@TheWarriorsMind I know a few guys who live out in the Great Plains regions in the US who sometimes have to take a shot like that. Longest shot I ever took hunting was 400 yards on a mule deer. That said, where I reside, 99% of my hunting is brush stalking and 45 yards or closer. Seldom do I get a longer stretch out beyond 70 yards.
So yeah, all on what you like but I'd say it's a fair assessment that most people aren't going to shoot ranges like that EXCEPT at a range.
I hope so. I'm so god damn fed-up with the 308 train of praise. I bought a brand new tikka t3x in 3006 and I got flack from other hunters, Why you buying that old caliber,It is more recoil, precision is better in 308, shorter boltthrow and so on.
3006 does what I whant from it. It kills what I shoot. I really hope the 6,5 prc gets momentum it's a interesting caliber.
Love your channel. You guys do a great job
Love your enthusiasm. Sorta like Doogy Hauser ODing on Ovaltine.
New round?? Been out 2 years, little upgrade over a 6.5 creedmoor, reloading could be a dandy with more power.. now a 6mm PRC could be something😊
I bought a 6.5 PRC in Browning's new Hell's Canyon Long Range Rifle. It has a 26" fluted barrel and it's the most accurate rifle I own now. Ammo is available online but I have been able to buy it off the shelf at my local gun store in match grade and hunting ammo.
If you reload I highly recommend the 153 grain A-Tips and about 53.7 grains of RL 26
Please do 270 win next!
Absolutely love my 6.5 prc shot nice whitetail and antelope one shot.
My brother shot his 6 point bull elk one shot. All.shot with swift and accubond reloads.
Why where you hunting with the Sierra MatchKing?
No kidding! I was wondering the same thing. Sierra makes a Gameking.
haha you want bullets that mushroom on impact, not disintegrate. WTF
Because they kill deer just fine
To what I heard, the SMK's have a thin jacket and there is a OTM Version of it, that has a small hollow tip, which will fragment even at lower Velocitys. If the bullet Fragments or Mushrooms, both will do well, as long as they penetrate enough.
@Rom vin Agreed! I also, Nosler Accubond!
Just bought one. Weatherby First Lite last group of my barrel break in was 2" at 300 yds. Love the rifle and cartidge so far
Why hunt with a match bullet instead of a hunting bullet engineered for that application?
I think the idea is about gaining shot placement advantage. Not saying I agree with it but just why some people think this way
Just get a 270.
@@rgjr.6055 agree
@@rgjr.6055 Theres a thousand ways to skin a cat and some like to make it more difficult
And got crap performance out of the bullet
I still own a 300WM and 270 Win, but I also have both 6.5’s from Hornady and soon a 7PRC. I agree, the classics are great, but I love playing with the new designs!
Now I want to see the chart of 88 cartridges.
I just bought a 6.5 PRC Ruger American Go Wild and it actually feels like the recoil is much less than a .308. possibly less than my 6.5 grendel even, which is a pleasant surprise. I have also only shot norma 147gr long range hunting ammunition, as it was the least expensive at my local Scheels. At about 40 a box of 20.
Need the 280 AI review
I’ve switch from archery due to severe shoulder injury. I’ve picked out the rifle and the scope. I’ve landed on the .270. I feel like all the information out there, that it feels like I’m looking up a symptom on web-md.
I hunt deer and ek. I’m not sure of the distances I’ll shoot, it’s been decades since I was in the Marines and I was an excellent shot. It’s all about what I feel is my own ethical range that will put them down effectively.
270 is a good choice for all-round hunting use without being too much of a shoulder whopper. Maybe a bit light for elk at longer ranges but perfectly adequate for moderate ranges. I personally limit my elk shots to 300 yards under normal hunting conditons with over the counter ammo.
had a guy at benchrest (hunter class) that had a 308 in normal wood hunting stock, he has 20 000 rounds through the barrel and still shot 5 x 5 groups avrage of 17mm at 100 meters.
And he didnt even have to clean it in the entire match.
.308 is my favorite
I like how all of these new fancy rounds are chasing what the Swedish accomplished in 1894. Or even what the USA accomplished in 1906. Or even what the Swiss accomplished in 1911.
To be honest, I never would’ve bought a 6.5 creedmoor if I had my 6.5PRC first.
with the 6.5 PRC it is a Hand Loaders caliber. Once you get 150-200 rounds through your barrel you will see a 150-200 fps pick up in speed. I currently run 142 ELD-X at 3130 in my hunting rifle and 152 a-tips at 3097 in my target rifle. when it comes to barrel life people forget that you are going to spend $5,000 dollars before you replace a $500 dollar barrel.
Great video! Wondering where you get your stats (such as #21 flattest shooting)? Was trying to Google your stats and didn't come up with anything. Love reading stats, so if you could share that would be AWESOME!! Once again, strong work on the video. I have a 6.5 PRC and a Creed. Love shooting both.
I believe he is quoting stats that they have compiled on the" Backfire" page.
Availability is the most important thing keeping it back. I can get 6.5 Creedmoor, the PRC is near unobtanium in my area. Creedmoor is here to stay for sure, the PRC I'm much less sure about. The speed difference also isn't massive over the creedmoor.
You’ll have to hand load to get the speed out of it, then it will shine
@@richardrisner3635 Yeah but the same can be said of the Creedmoor. I'm pushing 140s 2850 with the Creedmoor probably just get me to about 3k or just over with the PRC.
The 6.5mm Rem Mag has been shooting 3200 fps since 1966. Too bad Remington made the actions too short. Severely limited bullet selection. It still rocks!
Ahh Remingtons long list of Fk ups.
@@gsxr1189 They've hosed me twice. The latest is the 300 RSAUM. Developed it, sold it then kicked it off the curb. Love the rifle. Accurate, hard hitting. No more $$ of mine going to Remington!
I'm pretty sure the 3,200 fps number is because it's the max velocity allowed in whatever competition George from Ga. Precision competes in. Most likely the PRC. You gotta take into account twist rate when comparing cartridges as a lot of cartridges suffered due to slow twist rates making them unable to stabilize the high bc bullets that are so popular.
You are correct. That’s the limit for PRS matches and George wanted to bump up against that 3,200 limit in a short action and liked the bullet selection of 6.5
Keep them coming hopefully 6.5 Grendel and very random 35 Whelen at some point.
I love these cartridge profiles. I have trouble differentiating between different cartridges
Don't get me wrong I'm not bashing the 6.5 PRC, just want a slightly bigger jump from a creedmoor
26 nosler
I own a Ruger M77 Hawkeye LRT in 6.5 PRC. It makes 1,000 yards seem like 100. But, I can’t recommend it until the ammo situation is resolved. I was lucky to find brass to reload. It’s also been a challenge finding the heavier 6.5 bullets. There just doesn’t seem to be load data for anything lighter than 140 gr.
"more power than a 30-06" shooting what bullet in each?
My same question. Are they shortchanging the 30-06 with a 100 grain bullet?
I like how he hasn't answered this question.
Look at hornady website. The 30-06 superformance 180 gr sst has 200 ft lb more energy at 500 yards than any 6.5 prc available.
They are also really short selling the energy on the 30-06. You could get a 180 grain bullet going 2800 FPS at the muzzle which would get your energy at 3200 ft.lbs
Don't be surprised Jim if my wife calls you and complains. I am using this video and your video on the Sako S20 6.5 PRC as the bases for buying the Sako. Another great evidence-based video.
Have you projected the cartridges you intend to profile? I am most interested in the 7mm Rem. Mag.
The 28 Nosler also interests me.
Thanks gents.
Better profile old grandpa 7mm Weatherby while your at it!!
My father and I had an interesting experience with the 6.5 prc this weekend and elk hunting. We took a cow elk with the 6.5 prc. She was facing away at about 125 yards. The only available shot was a neck/head shot. The shot was made right at the base of the skull for an immediate kill. This shot was made because the rifle is such a kitten to shoot, it groups at about .5 inch at 100yrds. The bottom line is it is about shot placement for any cartridge, the value of this cartridge is accuracy over power and this cartridge allowed for a clean kill and shot that would not have been possible with some of the heavier caliber rifles my family hunts with. With that said, it also has plenty of horsepower.
Follow up for the second license today. 6.5 prc at 564 yards, shot double lung, no questions asked.
I'd like an episode on the 308. Gotta cover the basics...
your "cartridge profile" section is not available anymore....I'd like to be able to compare the 6.5 PRC and the 7mm-08.
It's great kinda like a short 264 Win mag
Never thought of that,but yes I agree😂
Yep, with a proper twist rate and a slightly more efficient case. It utilizes about 8% less powder to achieve similar velocities.
6.5 PRC is here to stay. The same hollow criticisms pointed at 6.5 Creed for years are the same ones now directed at 6.5 PRC. Unlike 224 Valkyrie, the smaller Nosler cartridges, 6.8 Western, etc, 6.5 PRC is now offered by several manufacturers. The most valid criticism of the cartridge is that its sudden popularity has meant Hornady is struggling to meet demand for the ammunition and fresh brass disappears from store shelves in an instant. 6.5 PRC is what 6.5 Creed should have been. It's here to stay.
Now that I think of it, everyone should avoid 6.5 PRC like the plague. If you already bought ammo, I'll help you get rid of it. I could probably even throw you a few bucks to help you out.
17hmr soon?
I still like 17hmr
It's fun for a rimfire.
Out to 400 yards or so, if you can compensate for drop easy enough, it's not all about the energy numbers. Sometimes a larger bullet holds as much or more advantage. 7mm class or 30cal class stuff in a lower recoil option is equally or more effective. 7mm-08, 7x57, 280 Rem, 7mm Rem mag, 308 Win, 30-06. Get within 200 yards and the .30-30 would put them down handily.
Need a review on the mauser m18 please, thanx for content from namibia
The really neat round for those who want to go to the firing line without handicap is 6.5/284. It is MOA at 1000 in wind that’s properly appraised up to about 500 rounds.
I completely disagree. The .270 WSM is a short action the acheives 3,300 FPS with a 130 grain cartridge shoots 3,250 FPS with a 140 grain. That's over the counter ammo as well. If you hand load it is capable of so much more. Plus, the .270 WSM has at a minimum 250 more lbs of energy.
Yeah, but the name of the game right now is High BC. it's why 270 WIN isn't as popular, though it kind of is getting a bit popular with the 150 and 165 grain projectiles around. If 270 WSM would have been spec'd with a 1:8 twist, we might have not seen or had such a huge urge for the 6.5 PRC.
By 270 wsm are you talking Winchester short magnum or Winchester super magnum cause from my understanding the super magnum isn’t a short action my brother has the 270 Winchester super magnum and those casings are like a half inch longer then the 30-06
@@TheShmeebitdog Short mag WSM. Not super short WSSM. There are no manufacturers that even make rifles in that caliber anymore than I am aware of...just custom stuff. Same for the .223 and .243 wssm.
@@carlosfigueroa847 so you are a target guy I assume? If you're a hunter, you always want to throw more lead down range. It's about being ethical. Woodleigh makes a 180 grain .277 cal reload bullet. That in a .270 WSM would take out a grizzly easily with one shot. Don't get me wrong, I see guys shooting moose with the PRC. It takes them 2 or 3 shots to down it though. Same for elk unless you are extremely lucky and happen to hit between a rib in the right spot to hit the heart. Nothing more heart breaking than shooting an animal and having to track it a mile or two knowing that it suffered in agony for that mile or two. 6.5 prc is a perfect round for mule deer or elk that are really close. It's more than BC dude...its ethics. Unless you are a target shooter. Then shoot your 6.5 PRC all day long then. If I had to pick a PRC, it would be the .300 PRC for hunt bigger undulants like elk and moose. Use the 6.5 for caribou or mule deer. Note, my 6.5x55 Swedish handloads perform just as well as a 6.5 PRC w/143gr Norma (it's balistically superior to the Hornady). You can put a 160 grain in that case. (You can't in the 6.5 PRC because of the short case and the extreme angle from the main body to the neck).
.270wsm is my go to rifle .
Your making very good videos with very good info !!! Keep them coming ..
Any new rifles chambered for .280rem?
an underrated cartridge for sure.
I think as with a lot of Remington designed cartridges, they were released at a bad time and often overshadowed. I shot some of my first few deer with my dad’s 280 Rem 700. Lovely rifle.
Not very popular, and spends, most 270 guys are staying put.
If lapua makes brass it’s here to stay for a long long time. Over bore for a .264 bullet was figured out 130 years ago. Aaaaaand now we in America have finally done it. We’ve made another case to max out the 6.5 lol. It’s gonna be all about the brass.
7mmSTW...amazing and my fav...
Just bought a browning x bolt western hunter in 6.5 PRC. Very excited to try it out. Its my first ever rifle I have owned. I have shot my dads remington 7400 30-06 and that will be passed down to me.
How is the recoil compared to the 30-06?
Can't. Find. Ammo. Anywhere.
I found 60 rnds cost me $200!
@@fordracer1415 jeezus. I found some the other day for $41 a box
Dustin Sisoutham where?
@@fordracer1415 got lucky at academy one day walking around. But sign up for the email restock update from Midway.com. Of all the websites, they've actually gotten some here and there.. I've orded 9 boxes from them. You gotta be quick though. They lg fast.
Dustin Sisoutham midway goes to some movie site
I Have 4 Gray Carbon In 26 Inch Barrels. These Do Everything & I Ask Of It. From Coyote. Wild Texas Hog With Using Mostly Thermals. Mule Deer. Elk With Correct Shot Placement I Did. Precision Out Past 1350 Yards & Some Change. My Home Defense. (CQB) Truck. Capacity Are My 2 Radians & 2 Geissele In 5.56 To 850-1000 Yards Depending On The Several Variables. I Appreciate Your Coverage & Keep The Honesty Coming.
Cause we can find ammo now... let alone a Obscure new round....
When all the ammo is drying up early in the pandemic this was the one cartridge that was still on the shelf and I should have grabbed more of it. Sometimes those obscure cartridges that are easier to find, but then the popular it is round took off now I can't find it anywhere ;-p
I have owned a 6.5 prc for nearly 2 years and absolutely love it! Luckily for me I stocked up on Ammo b4 the ammo shortage!
What ammo do you use
@@sebastiendugger6929 I have been using the 6.5 PRC 143 gr ELD-X Precision Hunter from Hornaday
Would someone please tell my 7mm WSM it can’t shoot 3200 fps in a short action. This dude should do some homework before spouting off crap
My mates getting 3455fps using 284 Berger's 147g and 2225 ar powder and norma brass
I've seen him achieve this but it ain't that accurate as of yet he needs to build a longer barrel 28inch instead of 26 and faster twist rate
Did he hurt your feelings?
@@huntershort7936 Apparently. I'm sure you know how all of these caliber debates become an emotional dick measuring contest. I'll never understand why people get so emotionally attached to a certain caliber
Great video, thank you. The big issue for me is finding ammo in 6.5 PRC. There is none on the shelf in my area.
Ammo on the shelf at all is a plus in most areas. Prior to the shortage I was able to find this at most gunshops.
6.5 prc. More hype to sell rifles.
Probably not taking off next year if all major ammo manufacturers are producing the common calibers that are sold the moment they come off the line.
Reloading components go away for longer than loaded ammo.
6.5 what??? Good by. Just like cars. Keep coming out with something just a little different so you got to have one?? 270-30-06. More awesome.
Good *"BYE"*
I have a Christensen Arms Ridgeline but I never shoot it because in a year I was able to buy 2 boxes of ammo. You can find 6.5 PRC online but it is $119-$149 for 10 rounds. I spend around $75 a box for 50 BMG.
Just go ahead and convert your son to where he’ll end up at .308.
I enjoy the caliber comparisons. I think it was Solomon who said “ there isn’t anything new under the sun”. Thanks and keep ‘me coming
F=1/2mass X velocity squared... that's why retained velocity is so important.
I'd love to see you guys profile 300 blackout, given how popular it's gotten
I made this change by accident (long story) Anyway, I'll never go back. Try a 6.5 PRC and I bet you will say the same. Super accurate at distance!
Would love to see one of these on the 257 Wby Mag! Keep up the good work!
What?? Are you saying a 6.5-.257 Wby?? I wanted that for 15 years!! I'll be damn happy with the 6.5 PRC built on the Mark V action if I can get ammo!!
.257 Weatherby Mag is a great cartridge!