Afua's argument is elementary and easily provable: UK is the biggest beneficiary of the Common Wealth. An intelligent response (of which there was none) would be to ask why that is a bad thing. I would have loved to hear an intelligent debate. Alas, Afua is without equal.
Are they? If anything it benefits the Commonwealth citizens of underdeveloped countries that have an easier immigration process to more wealthier commonwealth countries like Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. Realistically how does it benefit Britain, we hardly trade with any of the other Commonwealth countries so it doesn't give us an economic benefit if anything we send billions of pounds a year in aid to help out poorer Commonwealth countries. Members still go to war with each other so it doesn't provide peace. The Commonwealth charter aims to promote things like democracy, human rights, international peace and security, tolerance, respect and understanding, freedom of expression, separation of powers, rule of law, good governance, sustainable development, protecting the environment, access to health, education, food and shelter and gender equality all of which are present in Britain and are ironically the main reasons why Commonwealth Citizens migrate here due to the scarcity of these very principles in their native countries. If the Commonwealth is so beneficial for Britain, why hasn't it been expanded into an organisation like the EU to help Britain's trade in a post Brexit climate and why have countries that were never apart of the British Empire joined it?
Y2JHBK6 she speaks the truth. If that hurts, so be it. Just because she lives in the U.K., does that mean that she should agree with everything the uk has ever done?
Camtaine82 bullshit.... in medieval times families watched criminals have their heads cut off for entertainment... its wrong by today's standards but the norm then... idiot leftists need to stop crying about the past...
Jedi Romeo , shooting deserters was considered wrong by today’s standards and I’m sure a number of pardons have been issued for those shot. Can’t just disconnect past and present.
Afua: clearly intelligent, but acting like a spoilt child here. Rolling her eyes when a valid point is made? How can you take her seriously when she does that?
More so naive, for example when they read out the Commonwealth manifesto as an argument, like nothing everything on paper is the same as reality, and Carole is very oblivious and can not have a nuanced discussion about international relations. another example is when they said other states had signed up voluntary as an argument. This ignores the pretty much all of the states in Africa have corrupt leaders, that are aided and abetted by the west. When you have that kind of awareness, which I'm sure Afua has, ofcourse she is going to roll her eyes when Carole talks out her ass like that.
Afua knows things Carole doesn't. Which shouldn't be a shock as Afua studied politics and economics at Oxford. She has expertise in the matter, and Carole is talking from a place of ignorance.
Carol Malone is laughable. Literally repeats Afua's point about the Queen, tries to present it as her own and attempts to use it against her. Complains about Afua apparently taking away her ability to speak while interrupting Afua at every given (or stolen) opportunity. Personalises her attacks on Afua in an attempt to inflame her into the same level of nonsensical argument. But nope, Afua is not that easily duped! Nothing but respect for Afua's ability to stay composed, rational, and logical in her arguments. What an incredible woman.
I wondered when Ms Hirsch would bring race and racism into an argument. Never mind the Nobel Peace Prize when are we ever going to see a non white winner of the Prize for Physics? No time soon I would suggest.
Afua speaking sense again . Brits have this delusion of wanting credit for stopping apartheid and civil war in Zimbabwe... when they started the whole thing lol
The civil war on Rhodesia was ended by the thousands upon thousands of people who died fighting for their freedom! The arrogance of that woman to completely overlooked that.
However to balance the argument Canute was a Viking, that unified Britain - in this regards he is a hero of history; however he also enslaved White people across the country and Europe; in this regard a White person would not want Canute as a hero of their nation in retrospect, and if this is the case then Afua has a point.
I do agree we should have the ability to change who we see and view as heroes in this country; I think telling Afua to leave the country based on this view creates feeling of commentary based on race or appearance. However, I think Afua is too radical at this point in time - Churchill and Nelson saved civilization as we know it, they achieved what seemed the impossible, in the times they lived - yes they have a blemished profile; and yes we do need to recognize due to Britain today having globalised back ground, for instance Black British people, and we need to deal with a need for shared heroes and consensus...particularly in the education process, we need to bring people together; I feel Afua stimulated a divide...shocked she has so much time to spend on this, considering her privileged background, shes example of change in Britain.. I mean who does Afua replace statues of Churchill and Nelson with? There is no one in history with their profile; which mean we accept historic figures may have blemished pasts, in this this modern age. beautiful woman is Afua, I love to hear her take on the Cleopatra crisis, and think her cause she champions just creates more divides...and someone as privileged and educated as Afua must know this...
Please let have at least a balanced more debate where 2 other participants have views that are not always pro-colonial/pro-imperial, for a change. Where is Mr T. Philipps at a time like this?
I'm originally Indian but British through and through. I've now watched well over a dozen of these videos and I don't understand why this Afua lady hates quite literally everything about Britain, British culture and its history.
Afua Hirsch has no idea what the people of this country suffered through two world wars.We lost most of our active young men defending this country against Adolph Hitler.We were forced to bring immigrants into( Great Britain) because there was no-body else to rebuild our country.In fact we were only a few months away from certain defeat because Adolph Hitler had invented rocket propulsion but we beat him just in time before he could start using them..Many British Empire soldiers perished in the war against Hitler and also many brave Americans (We owe it to America for helping us because without their support we would all be speaking German..What Afua Hirsch is saying about this country is disgusting She has a huge grin on her face as she insults our Queen. Flag. National Anthem. War Heroes British Empire and says our country is endemic with racism.. We do not need racists like her in this country. doesn't she realise she is stirring up potential hatred for the country that has welcomed her with open arms
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After many views of Afua's opinions it's very apparent she has a disguised hatred of Britain.
She is a racist bully AGAINST White People. Give me Carole Malone anytime. Afua I don't even want to see your racist bully face on the pledge
She doesn't even bother to disguise it.. do one then u won't be missed @afua
She isn't disguising it very well.
Every honest person on earth should hate old england and hitler
Afua's argument is elementary and easily provable: UK is the biggest beneficiary of the Common Wealth.
An intelligent response (of which there was none) would be to ask why that is a bad thing.
I would have loved to hear an intelligent debate. Alas, Afua is without equal.
Amen, Carol lets her live for britian blinde her to the facts and im undecided of whether she subconsciously racist or actively racist and hiding it
Crap
Michael Katide
Equally dumb??
Are they? If anything it benefits the Commonwealth citizens of underdeveloped countries that have an easier immigration process to more wealthier commonwealth countries like Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. Realistically how does it benefit Britain, we hardly trade with any of the other Commonwealth countries so it doesn't give us an economic benefit if anything we send billions of pounds a year in aid to help out poorer Commonwealth countries. Members still go to war with each other so it doesn't provide peace. The Commonwealth charter aims to promote things like democracy, human rights, international peace and security, tolerance, respect and understanding, freedom of expression, separation of powers, rule of law, good governance, sustainable development, protecting the environment, access to health, education, food and shelter and gender equality all of which are present in Britain and are ironically the main reasons why Commonwealth Citizens migrate here due to the scarcity of these very principles in their native countries. If the Commonwealth is so beneficial for Britain, why hasn't it been expanded into an organisation like the EU to help Britain's trade in a post Brexit climate and why have countries that were never apart of the British Empire joined it?
As someone from africa, am well aware that British imperial interests in africa are alive and well
But don't also rich Africans own millions of pounds worth of property in the UK?
🙄
Indeed.
8:00 Well said, Maajid Nawaz! I was going to say the same thing: two countries joined that weren’t part of the British Empire.
H....y....p....o.....c.....r.....i......t .
And heard the name of these countries first time 😏
Carol is the most disrespectful and foul mannered person I have seen on TV in many years. Christ!! you can just see the hatred in her eyes for Afua.
Y2JHBK6 she speaks the truth. If that hurts, so be it. Just because she lives in the U.K., does that mean that she should agree with everything the uk has ever done?
Camtaine82 bullshit.... in medieval times families watched criminals have their heads cut off for entertainment... its wrong by today's standards but the norm then... idiot leftists need to stop crying about the past...
I agree its uncomfortable
Jedi Romeo , shooting deserters was considered wrong by today’s standards and I’m sure a number of pardons have been issued for those shot. Can’t just disconnect past and present.
I would like the queen to have a live debate with afua on her concerns and campaign to change our views on history
I actually live in former Rhodesia and at this point no blame can be put on the British for our misfortune like at all
Britain is to blame for not supporting Rhodesia
Well said Afua
afua hates everything about this country but has gained so much from it. I think she would be so much happier if she moved to africa
Afua: clearly intelligent, but acting like a spoilt child here. Rolling her eyes when a valid point is made? How can you take her seriously when she does that?
It's not good to role your eyes in a debate but after what Carole said, how can you not. Shes so oblivious.
Javan uHnah Really? What she said was wrong? Factually inaccurate?
More so naive, for example when they read out the Commonwealth manifesto as an argument, like nothing everything on paper is the same as reality, and Carole is very oblivious and can not have a nuanced discussion about international relations. another example is when they said other states had signed up voluntary as an argument. This ignores the pretty much all of the states in Africa have corrupt leaders, that are aided and abetted by the west. When you have that kind of awareness, which I'm sure Afua has, ofcourse she is going to roll her eyes when Carole talks out her ass like that.
Javan uHnah Yeah, because Afua knows things nobody else does. O.K.
Afua knows things Carole doesn't. Which shouldn't be a shock as Afua studied politics and economics at Oxford. She has expertise in the matter, and Carole is talking from a place of ignorance.
... Did Afua just say she loves this country?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I smell bull sheeeet
That Afua doesn’t seem like this country, why don’t she go to a country she likes
Afua Hirsch. An identity crisis and privilege wrapped up in one awkwardly grinning package.
Majid is so catty. He really didn't have to take it on a tangent.
Afua is a very interesting and intelligent modern woman
She's smarter than all of them at the table combined. She makes factual arguments and these simps are there making adhominem arguments.
Afua is nothing but an anti-white, fact distorting, racist bigot.
Carol Malone is laughable. Literally repeats Afua's point about the Queen, tries to present it as her own and attempts to use it against her. Complains about Afua apparently taking away her ability to speak while interrupting Afua at every given (or stolen) opportunity. Personalises her attacks on Afua in an attempt to inflame her into the same level of nonsensical argument. But nope, Afua is not that easily duped! Nothing but respect for Afua's ability to stay composed, rational, and logical in her arguments. What an incredible woman.
shakespeare she’s a well spoken disgrace
Imperial Guard Carole? I agree she is.
shakespeare they both are
Imperial Guard Afua speaks a lot of sense. Nuanced, textured, clear arguments.
shakespeare what sense is she speaking?
She's up there with Dianne Abbott as one of our biggest racists ever
i will buy her a one way ticket to MARS
Carol is too old to have a clear vue on life and world. Caro just keep the figures that young guys give her and try to interpretate.
I’m here for Afua love her
We need more people like Afua, she depicts the truth, says it how it really is without glamorising.
Everything is racist to her, she is a fool.
@kalunda it is a fact she is a fool. We agree
@kalunda Report it to the police then.
How many times does some say ‘forget about the history’??? Why forget?
Carol thinks being loud and using emotive words make her right.
thank you maajid for calling afua out.... because you are Asian it will also carry more weight when debating with far left Marxists..
I wondered when Ms Hirsch would bring race and racism into an argument. Never mind the Nobel Peace Prize when are we ever going to see a non white winner of the Prize for Physics? No time soon I would suggest.
Afua speaking sense again .
Brits have this delusion of wanting credit for stopping apartheid and civil war in Zimbabwe... when they started the whole thing lol
The civil war on Rhodesia was ended by the thousands upon thousands of people who died fighting for their freedom! The arrogance of that woman to completely overlooked that.
This is why I don’t like the term BAME because Asians and Afro Caribbeans have different experiences of racism and discrimination
I think afua enjoys being a media celebrity and being able to debate these topics live with the people of Britain more than being a barrister
If the commonwealth is so bad why do so few countries leave it despite their free to do so for decades ?
Stopped watching this show. They cannot even listen to an opposing argument. Uncivilized.
Don't mention kleptocracy in Africa. Just mention imperialism . Not balanced
Afua Hirsch is 50% British white and 50% Ghanian.
100% libfeminist
Half 'German' Jew. Half Ghanian. No British blood in her. Her hatred for us is easy to see
However to balance the argument Canute was a Viking, that unified Britain - in this regards he is a hero of history; however he also enslaved White people across the country and Europe; in this regard a White person would not want Canute as a hero of their nation in retrospect, and if this is the case then Afua has a point.
Why is Karan so aggressive and Angry and always shouting over people. Makes loads of noise but with no substance
I do agree we should have the ability to change who we see and view as heroes in this country; I think telling Afua to leave the country based on this view creates feeling of commentary based on race or appearance.
However, I think Afua is too radical at this point in time - Churchill and Nelson saved civilization as we know it, they achieved what seemed the impossible, in the times they lived - yes they have a blemished profile; and yes we do need to recognize due to Britain today having globalised back ground, for instance Black British people, and we need to deal with a need for shared heroes and consensus...particularly in the education process, we need to bring people together; I feel Afua stimulated a divide...shocked she has so much time to spend on this, considering her privileged background, shes example of change in Britain..
I mean who does Afua replace statues of Churchill and Nelson with? There is no one in history with their profile; which mean we accept historic figures may have blemished pasts, in this this modern age.
beautiful woman is Afua, I love to hear her take on the Cleopatra crisis, and think her cause she champions just creates more divides...and someone as privileged and educated as Afua must know this...
If I had a fiver for every time she mentions the R word I’d be a rich homer
Acura should live somewhere else!
Ex Muslim majid is a far better person, since becoming an ex Muslim
Please let have at least a balanced more debate where 2 other participants have views that are not always pro-colonial/pro-imperial, for a change. Where is Mr T. Philipps at a time like this?
Afua Challenging White Fragility
i may not agree with afua but why does carole behave so irate? she needs to relax.
Carol Malone is the best
Africa is literally getting richer...
I'm originally Indian but British through and through. I've now watched well over a dozen of these videos and I don't understand why this Afua lady hates quite literally everything about Britain, British culture and its history.
yuk revolting female!
The world needs more people as reasonable and balanced as Majid!!
Afua Hirsch has no idea what the people of this country suffered through two world wars.We lost most of our active young men defending this country against Adolph Hitler.We were forced to bring immigrants into( Great Britain) because there was no-body else to rebuild our country.In fact we were only a few months away from certain defeat because Adolph Hitler had invented rocket propulsion but we beat him just in time before he could start using them..Many British Empire soldiers perished in the war against Hitler and also many brave Americans (We owe it to America for helping us because without their support we would all be speaking German..What Afua Hirsch is saying about this country is disgusting She has a huge grin on her face as she insults our Queen. Flag. National Anthem. War Heroes British Empire and says our country is endemic with racism.. We do not need racists like her in this country. doesn't she realise she is stirring up potential hatred for the country that has welcomed her with open arms
I love Carole Malone.
One day this woman will wake up and realise her career has been based on hate.
She hates this country . And wants to de anglicise every thing
ah fo