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  • @MightyGodofGods
    @MightyGodofGods 2 месяца назад +301

    “They are brain damaged. Their parents are cousins.” 😂😂😂

    • @demasmongare4575
      @demasmongare4575 2 месяца назад +4

      ran to the comment section looking for this😂😂

    • @sahilmehta2009
      @sahilmehta2009 Месяц назад +4

      It's even funnier cause Muslims actually marry their cousins 😂😂😂

    • @countrymusicandcher8593
      @countrymusicandcher8593 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@sahilmehta2009 You know christains do too tho? Its not about muslims...but it was funny 😂

    • @genevievegracia9106
      @genevievegracia9106 Месяц назад +6

      @@sahilmehta2009I see no one told you about all the very Christian royal families of Europe 😂

    • @christislove9844
      @christislove9844 Месяц назад +4

      *Muslims are crying after this comment*

  • @oblivion85
    @oblivion85 2 месяца назад +255

    Man, I miss these old Dave Ramsey videos where it felt like he was talking to you one on one.

    • @user-ne9wp8ve5u
      @user-ne9wp8ve5u 2 месяца назад +14

      I agree. When both start talking and asking different questions at the same time gets to be annoying.

    • @emaldon7
      @emaldon7 2 месяца назад +21

      Back when a $600 car payment was extreme and not the norm 😅

    • @oblivion85
      @oblivion85 2 месяца назад +2

      @@emaldon7 lol for real.

    • @kilroywashere9678
      @kilroywashere9678 Месяц назад

      @@emaldon7the average now is $750/month crazy 😳

  • @stratoplayer1988
    @stratoplayer1988 2 месяца назад +137

    My car is a 2012 model and do not have to make any payments on it. Last year, I had to pay about $2500 in repairs just to be able to drive it. I’ll take that over any car payments any day.

    • @roofcamper3473
      @roofcamper3473 2 месяца назад +4

      You should learn to fix it yourself. It will save you thousands

    • @15KHPCLUB
      @15KHPCLUB 2 месяца назад +18

      @@roofcamper3473 Becoming mechanically inclined takes a lot of time and chances are you don’t have that when you’re working just to keep a roof over your head which is what most people are doing.

    • @kathleencooney1518
      @kathleencooney1518 2 месяца назад +9

      I am also driving a 12 year old car. I only have 60,000 miles on it & hope to drive it for another 10 years. I can’t afford a $600 car payment.

    • @epochrocks3857
      @epochrocks3857 2 месяца назад +8

      @@15KHPCLUBeven doing regular maintenance yourself can save thousands. Say a high mileage service interval calls for brakes, oil change, ATF/diff fluid change, power steering, filters, spark plugs, etc. that could be $1000-2000 even on a Honda or Toyota at a local shop or stealership. If you have some basic tools, RUclips, and a little paitence you can get all that done for a couple hundred bucks. I don’t think roofcamper is advising op to rebuild his engine or mess with the electronics.

    • @roofcamper3473
      @roofcamper3473 2 месяца назад +3

      @@15KHPCLUB You're not wrong, tools are expensive. I think doing fluids, brakes, and basic suspension could help people save thousands with not that expensive of tools.

  • @As_A________Commenter
    @As_A________Commenter 2 месяца назад +300

    If BMW stopped financing Persians and Armenians in Los Angeles, their entire North American division would immediately collapse

  • @nancyford8212
    @nancyford8212 2 месяца назад +48

    My son worked from high school at a small airport, did 3 yrs of aeronautical engineering then was needed full time at the little airport. He went back full time and studied on his own...no school and git his mechanics license, then one of his 2 days off worked on helicopters and that money all went for him to get his pilots license within 2 yes, then went on to get his license for doing yearly plane inspections. All done on his own. Now still working 40 hrs a week at the same place but the on call mechanic at the local county airport even on his days off. Proud of him. Pays cash for cars. He is am example for your show. He is 55 and been married 38 yrs, they have 5 rentals from tax liens.

  • @XimHo623
    @XimHo623 2 месяца назад +51

    My husband 's dream had been a Platinum Sequoia Toyota since his 40s. Before he got it, he'd been driving cheap used cars for years until he bought it at 67K in 2019 with no loan. He enjoyed driving it for his early retirement at 62- yr old.

    • @mr.marinero6747
      @mr.marinero6747 Месяц назад +3

      That’s my plan .. I drive 2013 Highlander in a few year I going to buy a 4 runner cash

    • @ramsaybolton7464
      @ramsaybolton7464 Месяц назад

      Amazing truck Xim

    • @googlegmail9888
      @googlegmail9888 26 дней назад

      Dang bruh 20 years to get one car? That’s madness

  • @scottcampbell96
    @scottcampbell96 2 месяца назад +63

    Bought my only new car 9 years ago. Started as a lease, but I saved enough to pay cash for it at the end of the 3 year term. Lost my job at the end of 2019 (and struggled to find something new during COVID). Having the car paid off was such a relief and it’s still going strong today. I live 2 miles from my new job, so the car only has 72,000 miles on it.
    My previous vehicle was a 1997 Silverado that I bought in 1998 and drove for 17 years, so I expect this car to last at least another nine years. Just building wealth debt free, now. On track to be a millionaire in 6 or 7 years.

    • @aaronjmcc1
      @aaronjmcc1 Месяц назад +1

      2 miles ... please tell me you don't drive that distance

    • @andreacordovezflores1248
      @andreacordovezflores1248 Месяц назад

      @@aaronjmcc1dude in my city you have to drive everywhere. 2 miles is not walkable in my city.

    • @echo5827
      @echo5827 Месяц назад

      @@andreacordovezflores1248 Lmao what city is 2 miles not walkable plot the route on maps rn

    • @butchnoneed4883
      @butchnoneed4883 Месяц назад +2

      @@andreacordovezflores1248 2 miles is walkable in any city. Just make sure you carry. 2A.

    • @jimroscovius
      @jimroscovius 6 дней назад +1

      ​@@andreacordovezflores1248I wouldn't live in that city.

  • @JoeMNPT
    @JoeMNPT Месяц назад +3

    Man, after listening to new ramsey show episodes for the past year then hearing this, it’s so much better listening to old Dave by himself.

  • @Kenspencer999
    @Kenspencer999 4 дня назад +100

    What I don’t understand is, on one hand we are told the stock market will crash and yet on the other we are told ways of investing in the stock market. Oxymoron or paradox? I'm considering investing over 150k, but I'm uncertain about risk mitigation strategies.

    • @blabberchannel-me3uj
      @blabberchannel-me3uj 4 дня назад

      Just buy Gold and protect your assets, the stock market is a rollercoaster.

    • @Jamestate-fp2fx
      @Jamestate-fp2fx 4 дня назад

      The market is not necessarily a rollercoaster if you know your way around the market, there are various opportunities in the present market to accrue good profit, If you are not too savvy with the market, just buy and hold on strong companies with good earnings, or consult with advisors on ETFs and actively managed funds

    • @sarahfunnel
      @sarahfunnel 4 дня назад

      Your advisor must be really good. How I can get in touch? My portfolio's decline is a concern, and I could use some guidance.

    • @Jamestate-fp2fx
      @Jamestate-fp2fx 4 дня назад

      There are a handful of experts in the field. I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with ‘’Anna Rounds Fay” for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look her up.

    • @lexgreg77
      @lexgreg77 4 дня назад

      I appreciate this. After curiously searching her name online and reviewing her credentials, I'm quite impressed.

  • @lorrainedempsey3320
    @lorrainedempsey3320 2 месяца назад +11

    This man with the BMW problem, is exatly why i told my son at the age of 23, that in two yrs, at 25, he will have to go out on his own. He needed to learn how to take responsibility for himself. He is now, 52 , and is very much financially secure, and will retire when he is 55. He is not college educated, but is self educated financially. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @rosalinavega34
      @rosalinavega34 Месяц назад

      But I understand if you don't use your credit card your credit scores will go down so low that you won't be able to purchase a house? Since you need at least a score of 750 to get a lower interest rate on the mortgage loan

  • @anthonys5568
    @anthonys5568 2 месяца назад +28

    Regarding Feraz. Thank you Mr Ramsey for helping out a young man who made a mistake.

    • @ST-ue5fb
      @ST-ue5fb 3 дня назад

      I disagree. BMW did not con him. He is a 27 year old adult, not a child. He knew his income and his car payment. I do not feel bad for him.

  • @ibmtpx24
    @ibmtpx24 Месяц назад +10

    Close to 2m net worth no debt and my car is a 2015 Mazda minivan I bought used for $10k. Loving the car and living in my dreams not caring about what other thinks.

  • @companytime
    @companytime Месяц назад +8

    Learned a little about cars growing up and have never paid for repairs, done them all myself. There are so many things you can do on your own that for some people would mean the difference between putting them in a bad financial situation. I think the concept is under-discussed

  • @paulstandaert5709
    @paulstandaert5709 Месяц назад +47

    This first guy on the show is a perfect example of why I do not support student loan forgiveness. 27, living with parents, $600 car payment, and $10,000 in credit card debt and broke!

    • @DrifterZigzag
      @DrifterZigzag 28 дней назад +2

      And stupid.... lol

    • @ryanfisch7047
      @ryanfisch7047 25 дней назад +6

      I support it because of everything else the country has bailed out over the years. Now "normal" people could use a bailout and now it is a big issue. The supreme court ruled that business are people, so why are some people being excluded from a bail out.
      But in general I agree with Mike Rowe the higher education system is screwed up, more jobs I believe should be taught like how trades are with apprenticeships. Also maybe you might agree with this US gov waives the white flag, all student loans are forgiven AND going further student loans are not guaranteed and make university cheaper. I heard that some federal jobs might be dropping the degree requirement, if that were to happen and more businesses do the same then college will be cheaper.

    • @DrifterZigzag
      @DrifterZigzag 25 дней назад +2

      @@ryanfisch7047 wheres my free money then?

    • @DrifterZigzag
      @DrifterZigzag 25 дней назад

      @@ryanfisch7047 i was smart and not delinquint with $. Anyone can rack up mounds of debt. I chose not to. So where's my free $??

    • @ryanfisch7047
      @ryanfisch7047 25 дней назад

      @DrifterZigzag 🤷‍♂️ congress. Wang's argument for Universal Basic Income isn't terrible. Taxing AI companies and giving that out similar to the yearly benefit for Alaskans. He also said if you accept UBI you don't get other federal programs.

  • @rajbeekie7124
    @rajbeekie7124 2 месяца назад +87

    I love Dave's comment on whole life insurance being a rip off. He is 100% correct.

    • @15KHPCLUB
      @15KHPCLUB 2 месяца назад +3

      It’s easy to trash what you don’t understand…

    • @rajbeekie7124
      @rajbeekie7124 2 месяца назад

      @@15KHPCLUB LOL If I hear you correctly, a properly structured whole life or IUL, or what ever will do the trick. Got it. Those products are only good for separating people from their money. Agents are good at singing siren songs.

    • @natersalad889
      @natersalad889 2 месяца назад +17

      ​@15KHPCLUB haha, get your tunnel goggles off.....

    • @15KHPCLUB
      @15KHPCLUB 2 месяца назад +2

      @@natersalad889 Haha proves my point 😂
      You have no logical response just more ad-hominems from the peanut gallery!

    • @LittleMopeHead
      @LittleMopeHead 2 месяца назад

      @@15KHPCLUB What is your perspective and thoughts on whole life insurance?

  • @lukezeiders
    @lukezeiders 2 месяца назад +26

    I got a 2007 Honda Civic for $4,000. I’ve been driving it for 5 years now and it’s never had a single problem. You can buy a reliable point A to point B for cheap. Enough with these car payments!!!

    • @oDazzleRazzle
      @oDazzleRazzle 2 месяца назад +1

      I financed a 09 vehicle for $10k because it had only 20k miles on it. 40k miles and $6k of payments later and I wish I was in an accord, civic, camry, or corolla. Never will I finance a car again

    • @echo5827
      @echo5827 Месяц назад

      You got scammed

    • @chrismitchell6478
      @chrismitchell6478 21 день назад +1

      My friend purchased a brand new car Hyundai Elantra Hybrid and they've had to spend more than I did on my '09 Nissan Versa in the past couple years and to make matters worse for them, they even paid extra for their warranty which has yet to cover anything that's gone wrong with it. . Is their car nicer than mine, yeah, when it works. So many people think buy new, you won't have any problems, it'll be so reliable.
      No, not always and in Canada we don't have lemon laws, so if you get a lemon you are stuck with it.

  • @muniondalenewyurk6777
    @muniondalenewyurk6777 2 месяца назад +13

    I retired last year from hospital admin job after 22 years of service at 60 years old. I got financial management counseling for two years prior to retiring. Paid off my car last year. My husband is retiring in 5 years from the post office & I double his contributions to the pension plan & the post office matches. Last year we got a 10k gain on his pension investments. We purposely have shared one car the past two years to go to work (I worked in daytime for 30 years & he works evening shift for 29 years at post office). Prior to that we paid in cash for used cars, to avoid car payments. We have a 2018 Subaru that I paid off 8 months early. Now I’m working on paying off our mortgage, so in five years we will be mortgage free when my husband retires! 😊❤️

    • @lynnettep9517
      @lynnettep9517 2 месяца назад +1

      Good job!!

    • @paulmifka89
      @paulmifka89 Месяц назад

      Hope you both enjoy a good holiday together.

  • @z31Joshyman
    @z31Joshyman 2 месяца назад +26

    I grew up in my dads used car business. Im 33 years old and have been driving 5000 dolar paid for cars my entire life. One of the best financial lessons i took from my parents was drive good used cars.

    • @jamesrecknor6752
      @jamesrecknor6752 2 месяца назад

      I think my 1966 Cadillac will still be here when I have been recycled lol

    • @muniondalenewyurk6777
      @muniondalenewyurk6777 2 месяца назад +1

      👏🏾👏🏾 it’s great that your parents taught you well to prepare you for life & to stay wise 😊! I teach my son the same thing. My husband & I mostly bought used reliable cars with decent mileage 60k-70k miles. Kept cars until the wheels fell off for over a decade 😅! People needs to stop trying to impress others and do what works best in their household to manage finances & stay out of debt. 😊❤️

  • @teresaellis895
    @teresaellis895 2 месяца назад +48

    We keep cars forever.Gifted our 05 chevy to son to haul stuff,2010 camray to daughter.Both have near 300 k miles.Hubby rode hard daily for nearly hour commute.They are still going...

    • @curiouscat3384
      @curiouscat3384 2 месяца назад +6

      That's great - I'm the same. But it would be helpful to talk to naive people about how much maintenance you did for those vehicles. Even without a car payment there must be a budget for maintenance and repairs. I don't include mine in my regular emergency fund which is for new appliances or a trip to urgent care center or loss of income for a month etc. Those are truly random events. Car maintenance needs to be as routine as a car loan payment : )

    • @sethdanielw
      @sethdanielw 2 месяца назад +6

      @@curiouscat3384 Exactly. I have no payments on my car, but I'm starting to think the cost wouldn't make a difference if I did because of how much maintenance costs. In my opinion, getting an old, slightly worn car is only cheaper if you can fix cars yourself or you have a close friend/family member who can do it for cheap.

    • @oneshot1kill158
      @oneshot1kill158 2 месяца назад +1

      Pretty much,

    • @yubima
      @yubima 2 месяца назад +1

      My uncle and aunt keep theirs too. The hiunday they have is at least 10 years. My aunt did buy a new car, but it was with a reminding of a property sale( subaru), and she is confortable all the 2 and a half hours of travel she does for her work everyday ( shes a nurse, and of charge of the protocols for infections on the hospital), my uncles truck is so beat up, that i dont think he would get ride of it untill is stop working

    • @curiouscat3384
      @curiouscat3384 2 месяца назад +4

      @@yubima I don't know how old your aunt and uncle are but I can also say that us old fogeys also just don't want to give up our comfortable old possessions. I'm wearing a 30 yr old sweater for gardening that's practically falling apart but it's perfect! Vanity and keeping up with the Joneses wears off eventually for most people :)

  • @leahc731
    @leahc731 Месяц назад +6

    SOME people who drive fancy cars get them to impress other people. Truth be told, people dont care what kind of car you drive.

  • @bobschnittman2856
    @bobschnittman2856 2 месяца назад +16

    OMG. Dave "I want it so I am going to go buy it, uh" -- Hilarious

  • @TheWiseYoung
    @TheWiseYoung Месяц назад +5

    I only had a mortgage. Found a vehicle I wanted. Too low of price not to buy, damaged title, didn’t care about any of it. Financed it to talk the dealer into a lower price and warranty, and didnt care. Not waiting till I’m 65 to enjoy life. Paid the loan back after 3 years.
    It’s relatively easy to make purchases for yourself when you are in control of your finances.
    These people calling in who have less than a jar of dirt to their name, who have 60k in CCD and some how were approved for 50k auto loans are exactly the folks who need to listen to Dave.

  • @user-eu9zc8ch3h
    @user-eu9zc8ch3h 2 месяца назад +8

    The car load company also got my brother too. The company tried to get my brother to buy add-on packages that increase the price of the load. For those young people trying to buy first car, find someone with experience to shop the car with you.

  • @leahc731
    @leahc731 Месяц назад +7

    I have been driving a 2006 Toyota Corolla since 2011. No car note since 2013. Love the freedom of being car note free!!! 🎉🎉

  • @isaachunt5799
    @isaachunt5799 2 месяца назад +24

    we have no mortgage. zero loans. 80k in stocks and 80k in savings.
    we drive a nissan leaf.

    • @alinatamashevich3354
      @alinatamashevich3354 Месяц назад

      Better than being Ryan Leaf. Hype job, clipboard QB

    • @malcolmharvey6341
      @malcolmharvey6341 8 дней назад

      Just curious to why so much in savings? Is the 80k equivalent to expenses over 3-6 months?

    • @alinatamashevich3354
      @alinatamashevich3354 2 дня назад

      @@malcolmharvey6341 I have 50K in savings. Kinda common among HNWI

  • @heavyd777
    @heavyd777 Месяц назад +5

    I stopped taking out car loans years and years ago. If I don't have the cash, I don't buy it.
    I own 2 cars, fully paid for. I'm saving up for a used Ram truck!

  • @miriamburkett3294
    @miriamburkett3294 2 месяца назад +19

    I have a 17 year old Civic with 120K on it. My first Honda and I am positive I will buy another one.

    • @andrewmanuel1769
      @andrewmanuel1769 2 месяца назад +2

      Great cars . 2006 DX- 403,000kms now. Very minimal repairs over the years

    • @evoman44
      @evoman44 2 месяца назад +1

      My daily beater is a 95 Acura Integra that now has 267k miles. And I even used to race it hard when I was younger.

    • @lisawise4204
      @lisawise4204 2 месяца назад +1

      Hondas are great cars! My parents had a 2002 Odyssey, which I drove for a while. In 2023, it finally stopped being worth repairing with over 300k miles on it . . . Hondas and Toyotas are the way to go 😊

  • @ShideTv
    @ShideTv 2 месяца назад +7

    “All in one accord”🤣🤣🤣 13:00

  • @carnivoreRon
    @carnivoreRon 2 месяца назад +95

    I'm driving a 2002 car and have no debt. I hope everyone else decides to live a debt free life of peace.

    • @c.r.u.e.lsociety4026
      @c.r.u.e.lsociety4026 2 месяца назад +4

      I have a 2002 accord

    • @chansarithsok
      @chansarithsok 2 месяца назад +2

      I have a 1999 4Runner and it'll run at least another 100k miles.

    • @Joce123
      @Joce123 2 месяца назад

      Until you get the first repair bill...omg my friend owns a repair shop ..He gave himself a salary increase of 40% ...just because he could..unfortunate for his customers..they have no choice but to pay 40% more. I'm unimpressed by your debt- free old car

    • @dougtaylor2803
      @dougtaylor2803 2 месяца назад +4

      Not to mention, jealous.@@Joce123

    • @inspirice9844
      @inspirice9844 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@Joce123Old cars that have been looked after barely need a cent spent on repairs, just cheap wear and tear maintenance like brakes and fluids, they were built to last back then.

  • @briancristoni8413
    @briancristoni8413 2 месяца назад +28

    $22/hr as an air craft mechanic in LA????? I’m in Sacramento as an auto collision estimator making $32/hr. No formal education, 24 years old. I thought air craft mechanics were paid more.

    • @GloNavyLaney
      @GloNavyLaney Месяц назад +1

      Yea most jobs where I am start at 30$+

    • @breckfreeride
      @breckfreeride Месяц назад +4

      Burger flippers at Wendy's in Moab are getting 24 an hour... Just saying

    • @bobmcgrath1272
      @bobmcgrath1272 Месяц назад +2

      I’m based in the UK and spent 13 years working as an aircraft technician and moved into IT when I was 30. Primary reason was the shocking low pay especially when considering how much responsibility you have whilst working on aircraft.
      I miss the work but it’s frankly a joke what they pay.

    • @nonamehawg7068
      @nonamehawg7068 Месяц назад +1

      I am NOT flying on anything that he is working on. 😱

  • @tombellamy7167
    @tombellamy7167 2 месяца назад +50

    ...having a BMW while living at home with Mom and Dad....wow what a flex 🤣🤣

    • @EBTROUBLE
      @EBTROUBLE 2 месяца назад +6

      If I was his dad, when he came home with that car I’d have said you can afford a Beamer, you can afford rent… bet he would have took it right back.

    • @esterdrass4964
      @esterdrass4964 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, the fellow I know lives with his parents. He is near retirement age. Has been leasing BMW's for decades now and making car payments for about twenty years but never owned a car in his life.

    • @michaelvang1902
      @michaelvang1902 2 месяца назад +2

      that's pretty common in upper-middle-class homes. I've seen high schoolers drive around 60-50k cars cause of their parent's income while my family drives Toyotas lol.

  • @fredfinger7092
    @fredfinger7092 2 месяца назад +12

    This lady about the truck... "One more question..." Dave answers. "Oh! Thanks! One more question..." Dave Answers. "I see! One more question..." What a joy she must be to live with.

  • @liesascott5414
    @liesascott5414 2 месяца назад +4

    I lived for most of my life in expensive neighborhoods.
    None of my neighbors bought a new car all the time or hoarded them.
    The wives did not go shopping all the time and did not wear designer clothes.
    They did not buy their kids insane gifts but told them the ins and outs of the stock market at age 12.
    None of my neighbors wives looked like Miss America most everybody treated their housekeepers with great appreciation and gratitude.
    Being a housekeeper for these people is usually more fun than being the manager of a grocery store.

  • @jasminhamilton1147
    @jasminhamilton1147 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for all your work and sharing information!

  • @GreekCarFreak
    @GreekCarFreak 2 месяца назад +47

    As a car guy with a few nice cars, they are an enormous waste of money. For a commuter car, buy a reliable used Toyota or Honda (naturally aspirated if possible), maintain it, and you’ll barely notice it exists in your annual budget. If you live in the rust belt, get an oil-based undercoating every year to prevent it from rotting out. Aside from Lexus, luxury cars are junk quality and depreciate accordingly, so try not to buy into the brand marketing. With all that said, I’ve sacrificed in other areas to own nicer enthusiast cars. Not to impress anyone, it’s just a very expensive hobby I enjoy lol

    • @monsieurbojangles2336
      @monsieurbojangles2336 2 месяца назад +4

      The oil based undercoating is a great point and critical anywhere with salted roads. If it's applied every year, the stuff actually works. Most of my previous vehicles were still running fine but rusted away.

    • @lot2196
      @lot2196 2 месяца назад +1

      I always wanted a BMW. I bought a used F650gs motorcycle off Craigslist for $3,000. 3 years now, it's been flawless.

    • @15KHPCLUB
      @15KHPCLUB 2 месяца назад +5

      It’s called cosmoline and not sure what vehicles you own, but from my experience people tend to blame the brand for their own negligence.
      Modern vehicles are much more sophisticated and don’t tolerate skipped maintenance quite well.
      Are there some defective models out there?
      Absolutely, but most of the time people just don’t maintain their vehicles then act surprised when they break down.

    • @cathiematthews1359
      @cathiematthews1359 2 месяца назад +1

      Shhh.. don’t tell people that! Then the price of used Toyota go up! 😂

    • @counterbalancelife4305
      @counterbalancelife4305 2 месяца назад

      Yep, fluid film works very well. Get it put inside your panels, not just underneath the car.

  • @xavier_lucas
    @xavier_lucas Месяц назад +210

    2023 was a hell of a year, I have made $250,000 before taxes as the sole breadwinner and head of household. This is a great starting point and I’m very aware how blessed we are to be in this position, but I’m always looking ahead on how to improve. I currently have $88K left in student loans (originally close to $150K) and very little credit card debt (less than $2K with more than $25K available). I have two auto loans totaling $100K for two electric vehicles at 5% interest. I will appreciate suggestions from anyone who has been in same shoes on how to go about them.

    • @FranciszekPawal
      @FranciszekPawal Месяц назад +4

      You may want to start somewhere different, like the snowball method, where you focus on one loan, usually the smallest one, and direct all of your resources to pay off that loan while maintaining payments on the others

    • @Paullookman
      @Paullookman Месяц назад

      You may want to work with a money coach or investment advisor, although an investment adviser will concentrate on long term a money coach will help you with paying off all of your debts, maximize your cash flow and help you create systems and processes to direct your money proactively.

    • @thomasRDG03
      @thomasRDG03 Месяц назад

      A financial adviser could help too to create a more holistic plan for your money. They can assist you in the creation of both short and long-term goals and then help you by giving guidance on the financial decisions and opportunities you are presented with.

    • @Paullookman
      @Paullookman Месяц назад +1

      Yeah get you an invaluable adviser, everyone has blind spots when it comes to their finances. I began consulting with an advisor in WA from NY. I have a plan in place now and began to love spreadsheets making 662k in the past 8 months from barely 400k makes me have high hopes for 2023.

    • @xavier_lucas
      @xavier_lucas Месяц назад +1

      Who is this advisor you work with? I have tried getting around me and it is practically impossible to get one that doesn’t charge exorbitantly. Can you also share what the fee structure is like?

  • @karenmcdaniel1732
    @karenmcdaniel1732 14 дней назад +1

    I am so enjoying this episode! So proud of my adult children after watching this. (I'm speaking from April, 2024)
    I'm especially proud of my daughter. Last year, she worked a resort seasonal job. She saved over $6000 during that season. Near the end of contract, she went looking for a good, used, car - her first personal car - to "drive home for the winter, til the next job." She spent 6 weeks or more researching about used cars, then shopped all around her, and paid $5000 for a used 4wd Mercedes SUV. It had a couple interior cosmetic flaws from use, it had a crack in the windshield. It had 160,000 miles on it. Little rich girl owner had a new ride and wanted to get rid of it. :)
    Wow, that '08 MB is well built and drives beautifully. It has been well maintained and has no major issues. Back home in smalltown USA she works in the city street dept and is popular with all the guys (you know, those guys that know guys ....) Her fuel pump failed and 'the guys' helped order a new one and put it in at their garage. She's spent about $2,000 total over the winter to flush out every little thing that needed replaced or repaired. The 'guys' helped her locate parts at the best price, even helped her do some of the labor. She could probably sell it now for double what she paid, or more, but she loves the car and says its perfect for her lifestyle of travel-work.
    It seems the city-street dept guys now have a bit of, er, Big-Brother Pride? in saying - "Oh yeah, THAT GIRL THAT DRIVES THE BLACK MERCEDES?... is a good friend of mine. Helped her replace [whatever]. She paid cash for that car, ya know . . ."

  • @jennys2005
    @jennys2005 23 дня назад

    Fantastic information- I learned so much. Thank you for taking the time to make this video and share what you learned. Everything you shared I had questions about. Your amazing and so reasonable in your thinking.

  • @MegaIndecisive
    @MegaIndecisive 2 месяца назад +3

    I bought a new car in 2014 after driving two used cars. Paid it off in 11 months. I'm still driving that Civic today. Bought a second car last year that fits two car seats, a used CRV (2019) and we paid cash. No car payments. I hate paying interest.

  • @025MikeMiller
    @025MikeMiller 2 месяца назад +5

    Even with 2 Porsches each increasing 100% in value I've spent too much on cars over my lifetime.

  • @JoeBackspaced
    @JoeBackspaced 2 месяца назад +9

    I am about to buy my second car, I really needed this video to remind myself to not go overboard

  • @Cindy54504
    @Cindy54504 Месяц назад +5

    I use my credit card every month, but I pay my bill in full every month. I been debt free since 2009.

    • @peaceness888
      @peaceness888 26 дней назад

      Then great for you! About 50% of Americans have credit card debt. So, most people are better off with debit. This is especially true of most Dave Ramsey callers.
      If you have been fiscally responsible with it for 15 years, you are fine.

  • @daviddeglau8171
    @daviddeglau8171 2 месяца назад +26

    Unbelievable. I am a 67 year old multimillionaire doctor who drives a 19 year old buick. Great car that I hope lasts 10 more year.

    • @ian234234234
      @ian234234234 Месяц назад +1

      Live a little old mate, get yourself a nice car

    • @keywestfan2503
      @keywestfan2503 Месяц назад

      @@ian234234234I’m picturing you in a red suit, with horns and a pitchfork, sitting on doc’s shoulder! lol

    • @susiemarkle6908
      @susiemarkle6908 Месяц назад +1

      Great job!! A typical millionaire next door!

    • @cindypatrick785
      @cindypatrick785 29 дней назад

      We’re far from millionaires but I drive my paid for 2008 Kia Optima w 145,000 miles and plan on driving it until it quits, my husband drives a 2017 pickup that he paid off in 2023.( before we started baby steps).. 8:47

    • @RawRoyalart
      @RawRoyalart 27 дней назад +1

      Being responsible and being cheap are two different things lol , now if you genuinely like your Buick then enjoy but if you don’t then remember you can’t take your money with you

  • @roofcamper3473
    @roofcamper3473 2 месяца назад +8

    I drive a 2008 lexus IS-F and a 2009 lexus I250. Both paid for and I fix both myself. 170k miles on the 250 and 113k miles on the F

    • @darrellhardy5047
      @darrellhardy5047 2 месяца назад +1

      The ISF is bulletproof

    • @roofcamper3473
      @roofcamper3473 2 месяца назад

      Yeah it is very fun, glad to own one cuz they are a rarer find now@@darrellhardy5047

  • @LordBass
    @LordBass 2 месяца назад +5

    I've always loved "amputate the Tahoe!". I'm at the point in life that i bought myself a loaded, low-miles 2019 Tahoe 6.2 last year for 55% of original sticker. Freaking sweet ride, and debt free 👍

    • @15KHPCLUB
      @15KHPCLUB 2 месяца назад +2

      Ha! Wait til that AFM fails and this “deal” you got won’t look so sweet anymore.

    • @ACabral711
      @ACabral711 Месяц назад

      delete the AFM and change your oil and trans fluid often

  • @coldandafraid
    @coldandafraid Месяц назад +3

    First one, going to school for 22/hr... man that's tough. Im not flexing i just want to tell people, my job pays 25/hr and im 19 with a highschool diploma. If you need to start a snowball of good income and good finance the midwest is where you gotta go.

  • @anisenkrill6179
    @anisenkrill6179 2 месяца назад +7

    $501 average car payment. When was this recorded, 2016?

  • @emilyhudson8455
    @emilyhudson8455 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for the advice. 😊 little more confident now…

  • @steelcastle5616
    @steelcastle5616 2 месяца назад +9

    For the most part, poor and middle-class people tend to treat cars like jewelry.
    Rich people tend to treat cars as transportation.

    • @michaelvang1902
      @michaelvang1902 2 месяца назад +2

      ill-logic take. Plenty of "Rich" people drive expensive cars, it's those in the middle class thinking they can afford a luxury car that gets them in financial trouble. Even older luxury cars are still expensive to maintain.

    • @steelcastle5616
      @steelcastle5616 2 месяца назад

      @@michaelvang1902 And "plenty" of financially lower and middle-class people drive affordable cars and so do rich people. And just because a car is "older" doesn't mean it's expensive to maintain.

    • @michaelvang1902
      @michaelvang1902 2 месяца назад

      @@steelcastle5616 making your first initial statement pointless. I'd beg to differ on older cars as they can become a financial nightmare as well depending on what brand and especially how well it's been taken care of. Sometimes it's just not worth the cost of repairs thus a newer car would make more sense.

    • @steelcastle5616
      @steelcastle5616 2 месяца назад

      @@michaelvang1902 It all depends on how you define "older" and what maintenance costs are required. As for comments being "pointless", well you read it (that was the point) Mikey.

    • @michaelvang1902
      @michaelvang1902 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@steelcastle5616 Well you said "older" cars aren't expensive to maintain. How so? Aren't "older" cars subject to more repairs?

  • @texasboy5117
    @texasboy5117 2 месяца назад +3

    As impoverished millionaires we drive: wife a 2018 GMC Arcadia; and I drive a 2001 Yukon. We bought both new and paid cash for them. Both are kept in tip top shape. We will drive these till they die. We couldn’t care less about the status.

  • @kevinrtres
    @kevinrtres 2 месяца назад +3

    Yup! Did car payments twice and then never again. The last one because I had absolutely no credit score to buy a much, much cheaper used car - so I got suckered into a terrible purchase. I survived.

  • @jorgesalazar818
    @jorgesalazar818 2 месяца назад +19

    When i heard Feraz and Los Angeles i already knew it was an Armenian with a BMW 😂. I feel that its in Armenian culture to have a BMW or you are shunned by the community.

  • @esterdrass4964
    @esterdrass4964 2 месяца назад +5

    I know a man that has been leasing his cars for decades. He likes to drive the BMW's, Mercedez and Lexis and he likes them new, clean and modern. He has spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars a month on these leases, one time one car was about $700 a month, to lease! He turns them back in and starts a new lease. So, he has been making huge car payments for about 20 plus years now and still does not own a car.

  • @jermainerobinson7098
    @jermainerobinson7098 Месяц назад

    Love Dave everything he says is true l wish he would teach this stuff in schools in America, and in the UK and anywhere else thanks Dave keep the videos coming and let’s spread the word 👏🏽👍🏽👊🏽🥂

  • @TomK-ti8kp
    @TomK-ti8kp 2 месяца назад +5

    One of the surprises of my adult life is looking at the choices friends make and thinking “… I thought you were smarter than this”. Much of this includes cars and houses.
    Stealth wealth is the best because you don’t get people up in your face about it and your stress levels are so much lower.

    • @retirementpirate3665
      @retirementpirate3665 Месяц назад +1

      "Stealth wealth" I like that. I take pride that I drive a very nice but very old car that I almost always get comments on.

  • @AstonM6
    @AstonM6 2 месяца назад +4

    I got a 4K Toyota Scion on Craigslist. Two years later it runs fine.

  • @joachimmika1087
    @joachimmika1087 2 месяца назад

    I agree with the advice about leasing. However, in some jurisdictions (ie. other countries) there may be tax advantages in leasing if it's part of your employment package, so it's not 100% clear cut under those circumstances.

  • @jimroscovius
    @jimroscovius 6 дней назад

    We paid cash for our last cars. We finanaced new cars 21 years ago, paid them off early, and have never done it since. We buy 2-4 year old used cars with cash.

  • @TheSupervillain316
    @TheSupervillain316 Месяц назад +1

    Bought my 2010 Toyota Tacoma in 2012 with under 7k miles. Got my loan lined up prior but they gave me 0.9 pct so I went through the dealer instead. Got the truck price down and argued up my trade. Still driving the truck and keeping it as long as it runs. My truck is a single cab 2 wheel drive but it does what I need from it

  • @oldarkie3880
    @oldarkie3880 11 дней назад

    Dave wants you to have a full time job looking for and selling cars. Its ok to have a small car loan instead of repairs. Just make sure its simple interest and pay it off in two months. This has served me well.

  • @johnwrclinton
    @johnwrclinton 2 месяца назад +5

    I have a car, and a pickup (for our farm), both 100% paid for.
    But I do use credit cards - NEVER carrying a balance, I pay them off 100% when the monthly bill comes in. I think it's good to get the discount points / rebates. Where am I wrong?

    • @AK-ne4og
      @AK-ne4og 21 день назад

      Same here. Always pay and always paid in full

  • @spinnersesq
    @spinnersesq 2 месяца назад +2

    "I got fleeced" is a very common expression here in Ireland

  • @Whiskey_Jane
    @Whiskey_Jane 2 месяца назад +6

    Just bought my second paid for car, wasnt sure I made the right decision it was allot, it was newer then I ever owned. Also was not most expensive. I made the best decision using Daves knowledge at the time. Also saved myself a 20k loan on a new one. They looked at me in shock when I said no extra warranty. Thank you Dave for all you do. ❤👌

    • @handleyobusiness
      @handleyobusiness 2 месяца назад

      Smart move, warranties are scams anyway.

    • @15KHPCLUB
      @15KHPCLUB 2 месяца назад

      @@handleyobusiness For Toyotas, yes.
      Supercars, not so much.

  • @00177454419
    @00177454419 2 месяца назад +3

    This fellow Feraz is a piece of work.

  • @noahrose1able
    @noahrose1able 2 месяца назад +5

    I’ve had my 2009 Pontiac g6 since 2016. I got it for 5k, and maybe put $7000 into it. But it’s drives beautifully today and I’m not getting rid of it until it’s done

    • @evoman44
      @evoman44 2 месяца назад

      I don't think I have come close to putting that much money into my 1995 Acura Integra since I bought it used in 2001.

  • @cathiematthews1359
    @cathiematthews1359 2 месяца назад +4

    With that kind of income, he should be catching the bus! 🚌

  • @l.a.gordon5660
    @l.a.gordon5660 Месяц назад +12

    I'm afraid to tell you Dave.But Nissan's are not good cars.They have the worst automatic transmissions in the auto industry

    • @shawnweaver3955
      @shawnweaver3955 Месяц назад

      Yes, I took a loss on our 2010 Altima to get out of it before the trans could go out on me. New ones might be better. Get a Toyota, Honda...

    • @leahc731
      @leahc731 Месяц назад

      Love Toyotas! Will last 20 plus years if taken care of 🎉🎉

  • @joshyoung
    @joshyoung 2 месяца назад

    How’d I know bmw boy would be the first clip 😂😂 wow… I’m scared for ya man 😂 classic Dave

  • @GoogleUser-qp8mb
    @GoogleUser-qp8mb Месяц назад

    I agree with everything Mr. Ramsey said, except one. Leasing can be equal to buying so long as the interest rate is low. Manufacturers will offer same low interest rate on leases, whenever they have over-manufactured a model with low demand.

  • @peterr8848
    @peterr8848 7 дней назад

    Per car payments: it depends on the interest rate. I bought a new car in 2012 and planned to pay cash, but they offered financing at zero percent for something like three years. So I invested the money, made the payments, and paid the car off over the three years. I probably saved about $1,000 by not paying cash.

  • @walkidiafuentes7021
    @walkidiafuentes7021 Месяц назад

    I am on baby step 7 and driving a Nissan Sentra for 16 years now 😅 still running good 👍

  • @italian1488
    @italian1488 2 месяца назад +2

    Their parents are cousins! I love it!

  • @faltio69
    @faltio69 Месяц назад +1

    Dave: “their parents are cousins!” 😆

  • @motorcycleartist
    @motorcycleartist Месяц назад

    My fav Dave quote ... "Id like to meet your dad and box his ears"...😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @klguest60
    @klguest60 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Dave,, just recently started viewing you vids. mainly because looking for JP vids i saw where you hosted for an event. i haven't gotten through this whole car advice vid yet but i have a lot experience with vehicles, my advice would be buy a well maintained lexus or toyota. or some hondas or acuras are pretty good, but if folks want to have reliable car and maintain some sort of resale value, can't beat those.. those brands cars will last 20+ years provided about how they were maintained in the past and the prior owners conscientiousness..

    • @leahc731
      @leahc731 Месяц назад

      My 2006 Toyota Corolla has 228k miles on it, no issues. Love my car!! 🎉🎉

  • @azaboy2
    @azaboy2 2 месяца назад +9

    I had a £430pm car payment in 2018 from BMW when I was earning £1700pm.. It was just a case of keeping up with my peers and wanting a fast, reliable car. I decided to end the lease early and bought a used BMW with a low interest loan and cash, best decision I ever made car wise, now I'm car loan free and have a mortgage. Obviously, the other thing you can't outrun is the fact that you need to literally earn more money to be more comfortable in life.

  • @user-zu2ge9vs6y
    @user-zu2ge9vs6y Месяц назад +2

    I live in my car so I don't pay any rent at the moment. Rice and beans baby!

  • @Mujcanal
    @Mujcanal 2 месяца назад +2

    Remember this, your car is parked at work for 8hrs then another 8 hrs front of your house or inside the garage, probably most of you driving on average max 4hrs daily. I couldn’t stand the fact that Im paying for fancy car a fortune to the bank for nice shaped piece of steel and aluminium on four wheels and most of a day its not being used.

  • @timothyfinn905
    @timothyfinn905 3 дня назад

    work until you die,enjoy the ride.

  • @darinherrick9224
    @darinherrick9224 2 месяца назад

    I love the "sell the car show".

  • @jimnoe406
    @jimnoe406 Месяц назад

    I bought 06 f250 5 years ago🎉4wd its got 264000 miles on it now . I only paid 6300 dollars for it. And it is still going strong.

  • @802asher
    @802asher Месяц назад +2

    Wait, so how does $240,000 saved in mutual funds ($500 a month for 40 years) become $5 million? The magic of compounding interest? I want to do that plan!

  • @mitz2368
    @mitz2368 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm crying for this young man. A car for $6000 should be more than enough for him. That car salesman really did him over 😢

  • @raythemanroe
    @raythemanroe 15 дней назад

    I know Dave hates extended warranties but trucks nowadays like Ford, GM and Toyota have common engine problems that require the entire cab to be pulled. These jobs outside of warranty would cost more than your trucks value. It all depends on how long you intend keep the vehicle.

  • @jaymoney9643
    @jaymoney9643 2 месяца назад +6

    Dave gives top tier advice. The one area I would disagree with him on is to not say things like “you’re going to sell it wholesale, might as well sell it to me.” At that point, you’ve shown all your cards and the salesman has no reason to incentivize you with a slightly lower price. Plus, lots of dealers are super competitive. I’ve seen people who were hard negotiators get great deals because they were humble and didn’t make it seem like they knew the dealer’s business or what the purchased the car for. And I’ve seen people walk in with an add from 6 months ago of the car still sitting on the lot talking about how they would never sell the car get completely blown off. Just be careful with your language when you negotiate. Be humble and act a little bit ignorant of the topic if you have to.

    • @Jenda-ld8dj
      @Jenda-ld8dj Месяц назад +1

      Negotiate entirely in writing and take your time. Hold your ground.

    • @thetapheonix
      @thetapheonix Месяц назад

      Huh? If it’s the wholesale price then that’s as low as it goes unless the dealer will take a loss which they never do. Wholesale would be a good price as a buyer and if the car has been sitting they can move it to not have to pay the showroom. If he dealer says no walk and tell them they can eat the showroom costs another month. Don’t humble yourself, they will add all sorts of shady costs and market adjustments, hardball them all day.

  • @leonardyoung6821
    @leonardyoung6821 Месяц назад +1

    The advice Dave gives Suzy about negotiating a price between trade-in value and private party value is unrealistic. Those deals exist, but they are the exception, not the rule. A dealer is usually only going to do that if a) they "stole" the trade for an unfair price thousands below book value; b) the car has major reconditioning issues and so should be sold for less; c) the model is not popular (or the dealer is not great at marketing) and so the car sat without selling for 60-90 days.
    "Retail" price in the internet age is different than retail price was 30 years ago. It is too easy to mouse-click to 10 other similar offers online. The dealer may have some fluff on the internet price, but they generally will not have thousands.

  • @ollieshow
    @ollieshow 20 дней назад

    It's funny to hear Dave say BMW should forgive this loan given how he talks about student loans.

  • @inadollard6672
    @inadollard6672 12 дней назад

    I saved for years and drove old cars, bought a nice car, I only had 2/3 of the cost of the car, paid it off in six months. My husband was not happy with me but it is paid off.

  • @sl0w_racer
    @sl0w_racer 2 месяца назад +3

    I will never understand why people sign up for these leases/rents. You put down a big deposit, which reduces the monthly payments then you pay a fix amount of money for the duration of the rent which can be 2 or 3 years, sometimes 4 years then you hand it back and start all over again!?? it's madness. The same with mobile phone contracts, it appears as a bank loan on your credit file. You really don't need a new £1500 phone every 2 years, again why do people do this? we buy our cars and our phones, no payments, no interest.

    • @thetapheonix
      @thetapheonix Месяц назад

      We’ll have you ever hard to pay for maintenance for a BMW or a Mercedes? 😂 Leasing is cheaper than the upkeep when they get older. The best course of action is just avoid those kind of cars. If you want a new phone and you want it now then the only option is to finance it. People have no financial discipline and they want everything now. If they can swing the payment they don’t care.

    • @sl0w_racer
      @sl0w_racer Месяц назад

      @thetapheonix yes I have a BMW 340. All paid for. The maintenance is expensive mostly tyres and brakes etc but we love it and can afford it. I saved £30k on the new price because I bought it when it was 2.5yrs old

  • @mikepaulus4766
    @mikepaulus4766 2 месяца назад

    In the Navy, stationed in Hawaii, my ship's XO grew up in a wealthy family. He drove a solid, but ugly old car that he paid cash for. I did the same. $1200 for a beat up convertible that was rusty, but drove great. I left Hawaii and sold it before I left.

  • @jamesbrown7521
    @jamesbrown7521 10 дней назад

    This isn’t corporate mismanagement this is the result of the finance manager at the dealership bumping the income on the credit app. If the credit is strong enough they know the lender won’t ask for proof of income. This the income is boosted and an approval was soon to follow.

  • @fullerlifeministryconsulta9126
    @fullerlifeministryconsulta9126 Месяц назад +1

    We make bad financial decisions on cars like this BMW buyer. I think Dave needs to first ask the question, “ Why did you buy a BMW? Or Mercedes etc?
    It will reveal the psychology of many people

  • @adrianholguin3936
    @adrianholguin3936 17 дней назад

    hahahahahhaa I'm dying 🤣 Dave cracks me up

  • @KULTUREFILMZMEDIA
    @KULTUREFILMZMEDIA Месяц назад +1

    I hope one day to go without a car payment lol. I do agree with the overall scope it's good to not have a car payment, however let's say everyone is smart and drives paid off vehicles...how does this effect the sale of new cars, and further the jobs and people who earn their living at the plants to build the vehicles/parts.

  • @heididodge7526
    @heididodge7526 10 дней назад

    Good point that credit cards are to your finances what cigarettes are to your health, and hopefully someday society looks down on credit cards like we now do to cigarettes. Touche.

  • @esotericone9101
    @esotericone9101 2 месяца назад +8

    My car is a 2009 (bought used in 2011), 234,000 miles, paid off since 2015, I’ll drive it until it dies…

  • @Palaemon44
    @Palaemon44 8 дней назад

    I never finance a car. You may need a car but it just has to run, and anything beyond that is a luxury, so I buy what I have the cash for. I used public transport until I was able to buy my first car for $2,000, and as my wealth grew, my latest one was $51,000. In both cases I wrote a check for it because I could easily do it. Paying interest when you don’t have to is giving money away.

  • @Momo-bb2fn
    @Momo-bb2fn 2 месяца назад +1

    13:00 hahahahaha!

  • @pilotoblackbird433
    @pilotoblackbird433 2 месяца назад +3

    Damn fellow aircraft technicians rise up

  • @Avi8tor857
    @Avi8tor857 19 дней назад

    The wife's van I went to buy it, and I know as the "no debt" guy you would disagree with this but I have a policy of never having a car payment of more than $500/mo and no loans over 2% as my investments out perform that, and never buy one I couldn't of just bought out right. At the time the only "discount" you could get on it was 0% financing, they didn't have any other incentives and the price was the price no matter if I paid cash or financed. So I financed it, but I put 50% down as that is what I had from selling a couple of other cars (that I made a profit on)... but the finance guy was like the loan can be 0/0 why would you put that much down and not finance it longer... he just didn't get that I wanted a payment under a certain amount and didn't want a long term. I see how people could be talked into horrible finance terms without being prepared. (I also paid less for the new one than the 1 year old at the same time, and it was right before new prices went crazy in 2020, but after the used prices had gone up a lot)
    Go in with a specific number, control the conversation, and be willing to walk away.