They Know EVERYTHING! - BLACK ROSE - Arcane Season 1 & 2

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @montybrewster7
    @montybrewster7 7 дней назад +54

    I love videos like this. As someone who knows nothing about the LoL lore i find these sort of deep dives exploring the richness of the story telling in arcane & linking it to LoL lore amazing. Thanks entgrove, that was awesome.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  7 дней назад +2

      Glad you liked it Monty!! Be sure to check out some of my lore videos! I think you will like them :)

    • @montybrewster7
      @montybrewster7 7 дней назад +1

      @@entgrove I definetly will do entgrove. Thanks again.

    • @flux.aeterna
      @flux.aeterna 6 дней назад +1

      Ditto!

  • @FlutterSwag
    @FlutterSwag 6 дней назад +29

    jinx the smartest one killing a raven

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад +10

      Jinx is a genius! She even figured out hex tech

    • @unturned6066
      @unturned6066 6 дней назад +3

      There have been several instances where Jinx seems to supernaturally sense people (or their bullets), and she gets that same weird blank eyes expression. I wonder if she has some latent powers, too

    • @Of_infinite_Faith
      @Of_infinite_Faith 3 дня назад +1

      ​@@unturned6066 she wants to escape her own mind so badly that her external senses are heightened. Also she us female and femininity is usually associated with intuition

  • @clarissarobertatoluporrati9539
    @clarissarobertatoluporrati9539 3 дня назад +5

    just discovered your channel, literally the best channel I've ever seen for lol lore

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 дня назад +1

      Wow thanks clar!! That means alot :)

  • @Okini_Hasa
    @Okini_Hasa День назад +3

    About Jinx shooting a raven - you might be on to something. 😮
    I always thought Jinx simply has no regard for life whatsoever anymore but maybe it's possible that she really sensed that those ravens might be spies. I mean I'd feel creeped out too if everywhere I go a big swarm of ravens follows... I'd too grow suspicious.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  День назад +1

      She is a genius! I just feel like if someone where to figure it out it would be Jinx

  • @slyshindi5545
    @slyshindi5545 6 дней назад +8

    Really interesting theory. The one thing I have to add is that the feathers on the jinx chair from the dinner party scene look like feathers from ravens that have been roughed (Shot, cough cough) up. they're really large but look very distinct. I would say it lends more towards your point of jinx having some thoughts about the raven(s) she's seen. Not sure what it means but thought it was worth adding. Good vid.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад

      Great add! I didn’t notice this
      Thanks sly!!

    • @unturned6066
      @unturned6066 6 дней назад +1

      Thinking on it, it's no wonder she's suspicious. Ravens? In the underground? Sure, there's perhaps space enough for them to fly, but it seems like a strange place for them. No wonder she looked at it weirdly.
      Edit: likely she has never even seen a bird underground before

  • @univeriseman8008
    @univeriseman8008 7 дней назад +16

    Black Rose wants the Shurami necklace that grants protection Mel has

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  7 дней назад +5

      This is interesting, I thought it was tattoos or something. She stole something important for sure

    • @Night-Shade.
      @Night-Shade. 7 дней назад +1

      Wait, you either saw the leaks and spoiled it or you're cooking rn

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  7 дней назад +5

      Promise no leaks. I baked this fresh hah

    • @Le0_0-
      @Le0_0- 7 дней назад

      I think they want Hextech control to develop means to stop mordekaiser.

    • @univeriseman8008
      @univeriseman8008 7 дней назад +4

      @entgrove it's my guess not a leak.
      Lablanc said her mom stole something. The necklace is the one thing we know Mel has. Kino probably died because she was thought he had it

  • @flux.aeterna
    @flux.aeterna 6 дней назад +4

    Oooh re the lines under eyes, maybe Mel’s gold eye makeup is an allusion to her being a secret mage/sorcerer (hence why she and Jayce survive the explosion, why Ambessa sent her away)

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад

      The only thing is Mel tells Jayce 'there is no sense to these things' and it comes of as honest. Like she doesnt know why they didnt get obliterated either. Maybe her mother got her that solari amore or tatoos (I still think its solari), and she didnt know it

  • @summernaleDunningKruger
    @summernaleDunningKruger 6 дней назад +9

    Creators confirm they are crows, and the crow represents Jinx. You can see in the fight on the bridge with Ekko

  • @The_Isaiahnator
    @The_Isaiahnator 6 дней назад +1

    2:40 I always thought this was in reference to when Jinx blew up the town square building (killing six Enforcers in the process) and stole the Gemstone. This was also the event that instigated Jayce to set up a blockade on the bridge that prevented trade between Piltover and Zaun. I'm not exactly sure when Elora handed Mel that letter, but these events would've gotten international attention in the world of Runeterra.

  • @tregi
    @tregi 7 дней назад +4

    At first I thought this can't be true, because if they are supposed to be ravens then with all the attention to detail this show has they would 100% animate them to look like ravens, and bird nerds would've noticed already. So I looked up key differences between crows and ravens, and judging from the few close-up shots, they actually do look more like ravens.
    Good theory 👍

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  7 дней назад

      Woo! Thanks tregi :)

  • @cheaptrick_8
    @cheaptrick_8 6 дней назад +1

    The instant ambessa arrived she said mel that jayce was considering hextech weaponry and I always wondered how she coule be aware of it

  • @lamelonlord1854
    @lamelonlord1854 6 дней назад +3

    Those damn birds. All this time we thought it was a symbolism for jinx but maybe ur on to something. I just can’t wait to find out what’s the deal with Mel. Like why doesn’t she know she has powers? or maybe she does?? idk mel is such an interesting character this season.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад

      These next 3 episodes are about to be crazy!

  • @deadmanslastwish
    @deadmanslastwish 6 дней назад +3

    Neat theory. But I still think this is over reading a bit. Its not a raven, its a crow, and its association is with Jinx, signifying 'bad luck'. Its even shown as the back ground during Jinx's fight with Ekko with Ekko represented by a Firefly.

    • @unturned6066
      @unturned6066 6 дней назад +3

      Or maybe they're always there because they're watching. If they're just association, then why did Jinx looks so weirdly at one and shoot it?

    • @talkmone
      @talkmone 6 дней назад +1

      Arcane is much more deeper than Jinx being bad luck

  • @АлевтинВикторианский

    Bro you're clever and observant, respect

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад

      Thanks! :) can’t wait to degenerately watch the next 3 episodes tomorrow hah

    • @BenDover-qg3lj
      @BenDover-qg3lj 5 дней назад

      @@entgroveI’m cracking a 4loko and binging tomorrow

  • @bubsenseijebe2993
    @bubsenseijebe2993 3 дня назад

    I always thought the Ravens/crows were a symbol of the death of Powder and the birth of Jinx. But this is interesting

  • @joshuafortun
    @joshuafortun 6 дней назад

    Ravens are from Swain. Even Swain knows about what Powder did and stated "Of course it's her fault" referencing what happened to Jayce's lab and the last Ep in S1 Act 1 Ep 3

  • @ESP-23
    @ESP-23 6 дней назад +4

    OMG it's Mel. I watched this video this morning and the watched a reaction video to season 1. If you watch season 1 episode 4 under the assumption that she is working with the black rose all of her scenes play differently, but still make sense, from her stating that the her gates must stay open after the attack. To Amara asking her why enforcers showed up at her door.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад

      I don't know about Mel but look how a Amara nods to Elora when she enters their box at the concert!

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf 4 дня назад +1

      looooooolllllllllllllllllllll..... NO. like that literally doesn't make any sense nomatter how you swing it

  • @FlutterSwag
    @FlutterSwag 6 дней назад +4

    Season 3 & 4 have to be Ionia vs noxus, theres to much set up to not be

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад +1

      That is the obvious choice for sure and where I would go if I was choose what’s next for arcane. Seeing that war would be insane

  • @EmoryNester
    @EmoryNester 6 дней назад +3

    BRILLIANT

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад

      Thanks Emory!!

    • @EmoryNester
      @EmoryNester 6 дней назад +1

      @entgrove I came to similar conclusion about the Nobel lady when they mentioned Noxian wine. Crows and Ravens have a lot of symbolism and IDK LeBlanc had crows so I assumed Swainn was spying because of the secrets being passed through all the secret mongers. Also what do u think about Ambessa's body guard ending up being Urgot? His accent is dead on. He's already started beef with the Baron's and him and Vi are gonna fight and He has a BIG AX with Green ruins...

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад

      @@EmoryNester Urgot is noxian so its possible! Everyone was so hung up on the guy Vi fought because her stance on the bridge references a cinematic. He is the only one I see who could possible become Urgot in the short time we have left in the show. I think we would need a time skip to get the Urgot we have in game. Maybe it will just be foreshadowed at the end?
      If we go to Noxus next they could setup Urgot there with another character. Thats also a possibility

  • @rikko1067
    @rikko1067 7 дней назад +2

    damn good video

  • @GarnetDust24
    @GarnetDust24 3 дня назад +1

    Guess what other character has lines under her eyes… MEL

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 дня назад +1

      True but the lines are different. Hers are gold squares while LeBlancs are more triangular

    • @GarnetDust24
      @GarnetDust24 3 дня назад +1

      @ yes AND Mel’s eye makeup is purple and gold which also match LeB’s color theme!

  • @walterhenry9574
    @walterhenry9574 7 дней назад +2

    🐦‍⬛

  • @jalcome4201
    @jalcome4201 6 дней назад +2

    They alrdy said the Crows are a symbol of Jinx herself, not swain not BR, keep up 😂

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  6 дней назад +2

      No way really? Send me the link! I’ll pin it as a comment and say I was wrong

    • @flux.aeterna
      @flux.aeterna 6 дней назад +2

      Por que no los dos?
      Arcane writers have shown themselves to be very shrewd, efficient lore weavers

    • @unturned6066
      @unturned6066 6 дней назад +1

      ​@@flux.aeternayeah, it could have 2 meanings

    • @decidueyezealot8611
      @decidueyezealot8611 6 дней назад

      Literally nothing to do with jinx and ravens have nothing do with the other. If they ever said that its absolutely arcane only or writer head canon

    • @suzujizu
      @suzujizu День назад

      Absolute clown 🤡