Cheap and cheerful indeed! They just don't build stuff like this anymore. Even the cheap amps of the era still work! I just recently inherited a technics amp from my dad, still in the original box. I fired it up and it worked! 30+ years in a box hasn't affected it at all. Anyway, good video!
I had a Fisher hifi system back in 1987 and I loved it. Good bass comes from those amplifiers. Wish I still had it today and the amp had switchable loudness too.
I have a CA-38U which is very similar to yours. I use it in the garage. It's actually pretty heavy with a decent transformer and discrete outputs. This was when Fisher was owned by Sanyo.
The transformer looks to be decent sized and probably is adequate for the amp chip's rated output. Some of the cheap home theater in a box systems and AV receivers I see appear to have even smaller sized transformers to drive a 5 channel amp. I'd love to see a vid of you showing the output and clipping on a scope to see how well it performs. :-)
The sliders and controls and even the output transistors are similar to my old Technics receiver made by Sanyo. Still working after 30+ years. And still sounds pretty good with 35 watts per channel.
It's not about the sound. Usually they were quite ok, and used also in expensive hi-fi gear. The problem with them is that one they burn out, there are no replacements available and the amp using them is unusable. For the regular solid state amps you can still find replacement transistors or equivalents.
All that Fisher components from 80`s were made by Sanyo in Japan. But this is just entry level gear, so you cannot expect audiophile rank. But these things work for decades.
I've been using a ca-335 for more than 10 years and it's been working fine. I bought it for 5 euros at a dismantling plant I used to work for, when I needed a basic amplifier. The only issue I've had with it has been the lack of power - sure you will get evicted from your home with it but it won't sound good doing that. It starts to clip pretty easily compared to anything more modern or even anything more expensive from the time period. But the eq works well to balance out movies ridiculous bass which would be a problem otherwise with large speakers like I have. And btw, the word loudness in the volume knob might not mean the effect loudness but just be a stupid japanese way of saying volume. I have never seen an amplifier that has integrated loudness into volume - I don't think that is a thing.
I got a fisher ca-862a from a friend almost a year ago and have finally found some substitute bulbs for the spectrum analyzer. Can’t find much information on it although it is one of the more higher ended amplifiers in this model range from 1986-87. I like some of fishers products, just not the cheap ones like in this video.
Wow amazing !!! My amp needed to be at 7 or even 8 before I put the product and it had trouble between the left and right the contact it hurt .. Today it is enough to be at 2 to have enormous power at above 2 my subwoofer of 100w saturates! It was my dad's amp he used in the 90s
There is really nothing "Studio standard" about this amplifier, but otherwise it is a nice piece of low-end equipment. With all in the video mentioned approaches, which make it nicely serviceable. I liked it's simple design, which resulted in quite transparent - although also a tad raw sound. Have been using for audio in our movie projections and it performed nicely. And movies with their dynamics and bass effects are quite a demanding task for an amplifier. The thing which really annoyed me were those slider potentiometers, it was hard to set them accurately.
So, what are you going to use it for? A room at my work has a Fisher "Studio Standard" system, with the matching tuner and speakers. The CD player and cassette deck are both Sony. The one at my work appears to be a little higher up than the one you were demonstrating. I will say, I was impressed with the sound of the system, maybe the room has good acoustics, but if I find myself working in there, I often will turn the radio on.
+weasel2htm The amp is probably going to be used for a computer system in my little AV studio area. At the moment I have the Aiwa amp in there that I repaired about a year ago which is a bit of an overkill.
I have a couple of Fisher items in the loft, both badged as "Studio Standard" - a CD player and a top-loading VCR. The VCR gave rather a nice picture for a long time but needs a head-cleaning now.
I use that amp for 20yrs now and it works great upgraded to some klipsch sprakers and it sounds pretty good although i prefer my dolby atmos system but to be honest its pretty good amp for the price but like in your video i never had outcuts i ghanged fuses 2 times but never had an outcut
You can often remove the loudness function on some of these amplifiers with ease. The volume pot will have another tap on it about 50% travel, this tap stops the loudness running all the time as it should only work at low volume. If the amplifier has such a tap, simply disconnect it. The loudness function is gone. Should sound a lot better with all that extra muffled bass removed.
Is funny that you mention that it was "MAde in japan...by Sanyo" because i have a Sanyo amp from the same era and it looks pretty much the same. Actually most of the cheap equipment of that times looks also kind of like "the same" but with different brand labels.
I had what looks like the ca-40 which looks similar to this one except it had a volume knob and volume indicator. The speakers it came with was so horrible that it would bottom out and crash into the magnet when turning the volume above 3.
still might be handy to use though for maybe PC sound or connected to laptop for games if play them.
9 лет назад
Now knowing that STK chips don't have short circuit, i'll be more careful with my aiwa NSX-5200, it uses an STK 4231 MKII, but at least it has very big caps and 4 relays, 2 for each frontal channel, 1 for both surround speakers and 1 for the subwoofer
The STK shouldn't be cutting out like that . They were notorious for playing up and used to cut out when they became faulty , other faults were intermittent channel drop out when they warmed up etc. Under normal circumstances they were reasonably reliable with reasonable fidelity . As another contributor has pointed out they were used by Sony and Aiwa in their products as well. Mostly their midi box hifis.
On my units I put a line fuse on 120 volt AC primary side of the power cord work comes into the unit and I always put it on the live side of the cord which would be the black wire or the side without the white stripe or if the court has a rib on one side I put it on the side of the cord that does not have a rib that smooth and you can tell if the cord is polarized 1 prong will be wider than the other that's how you know that it's polarized some of them are not polarized consult with an authorized service center before doing
I have Fisher RS-2002 Receiver with the left channel out. Do you think it is the stereo amplifier. It is the STK043 . I took it in to a vintage repair shop and the tech said not to bother if that part went throw away. What do you think? Thanks for your input.
The STK hybrid amplifier circuits unfortunately are not very good. They usually lack any protection, so they get damaged easily. It's very likely that this has happened on your amplifier. The problem is the STK circuits are not available anymore, so there are only two options: Try to find a new old stock circuit somewhere (very expensive) or try to find another amplifier with the same circuit that can act as a parts unit (quite difficult, there were many different STK circuits made). The STK circuits you find online, for example on Ebay, are usually Chinese fakes that are not nearly as good as the originals or don't work at all.
Hi, can you help me maybe it do the same stuff for you too when i turned the volume up its just maked no sound but there was still lights on but theres no sound if i put it to low or anything
This amplifier has a protection circuit, it cuts off the audio output if you overload the power amplifier. Make sure the impedance of your speakers is not too low (rating is printed on the back of the amplifier), if it is correct you will have to accept that you can't turn the volume up so far. You could also try reducing the bass.
In the 1960's the Fisher name meant very high quality and the equipment was pricey. By the 1970's though, it started getting cheap. They put out a stereo cassette deck early on that wasn't very good. By the 1980's, they were down to this level of quality. But, they had to make money somehow, and people were more into other brands, such as Sansui, Onkyo, Akai, Pioneer etc.
Nice video. I have some of the same crap from fisher. They weren't fooling me. You can tell by the front panel and the ribbon connectors on the inside that it's China or Taiwan cheep! Nice video!!! Love your channel. Who has even heard of the cap brand??? Loser brand.
I've got CA-225R and the difference in quality between these two adjacent numbers is quite obvious - the latter has much more quality (e.g. 225 for its rather midget size weighs 5.1 kg (!), it has a lot of LEDs - power level indicator, each band of equlizer has its own LED, 4 real and good output transistors, etc.) and soundwise it's more attractive. 223 isn't even a shadow of 225 but a pathetic mimic though they are somewhat similar in design..
9 лет назад
i saw some HFR glitching in this video, may i guess you used Smooth Video Project to make this video from 25fps to 50fps?
+André Campana Merétika I noticed some glitching too, but I'm pretty sure that's RUclips's fault. The video was natively recorded in 1080p50 on a Panasonic HC-X909 camcorder.
+Der Ubersau I didn't check exactly, but the diodes for the rectifier are something similar to the 1N4007 diodes. Certainly not good for any high current.
6:54 weird! Must be looking out the main cap (2200uF 35v) then replace. The STK 41xx series are cheap ıc. but no shitty component. Simple solutions like this amplifier. I'm apologize for bad english. Regards.
I have a simple question...why create an industry called Fisher when it from Sanyo ? It have no sense....like Technics and Panasonic! By the way, drcassette, nice improvement on your video's intro :)
+Naitoraven951 Fisher was a well established brand in the US when Sanyo took over. Image you are in a store and you have the choice between a brand you've known for years and one you've never seen before and that has a strange sounding name. Which one would you choose if you don't have the time or the ability to compare the two products to each other? And as for Panasonic and Technics, those names are much easier to read, speak and remember than Matsushita ;)
+DrCassette Ah okay, i see. Infact, fisher is recognized like high-end stereo o amplifier. But, ever for me, then i don't understand the quality of a one product...this is really cheap!
+DrCassette The Panasonic version of Fisher was Quasar, which they bought from Motorola in the 70s and used on mostly lower end stuff in the American market. I had no idea Fisher branded electronics were sold in Europe, I always thought it was a North America only brand.
+DrCassette Fisher-branded amps made by a large Japanese multinational, or Panasonic-branded TVs 30 years later made in a dusty Turkish shed. Hmmm, I wonder which is the more egregious rip-off!
That's got to be the cheapest "real" integrated amplifier ever! If only they'd left out the loudness curve entirely, or at least made it user switchable, things might not have been so dire. The built in protection on those STK modules oftentimes doesn't work, usually because a DC fault blows it away.
I'm not a bad person, don't take it so literally, i enjoyed music so much to the extent that I want to crank it once in a while, and on occasion birthdays like that i play loud, we play loud, occasionally we love to sing Karaoke way , well we have different ways of expressing it.. thank you so much
Ohhhhh, amp on a chip---I wonder if Avery Fisher would've sold his company to Sanyo if he knew how badly they would damage the Fisher name? If he were alive, I'm sure he'd be disgusted.
I think Avery Fisher passed away in the late 80s or early 90s... So he (unfortunately) would have been well aware of what Sanyo had turned his brand into.
Hahaha "studio standard" more like "recycle bin standard". Remember having a Fisher amp from the mid 80s which fried a resistor and smoked like a Russian Lada.
Don't think it's fair to be this critical of an amp that was probably very cheap to buy in the first place. It does seem better made in a lot of areas than the typical garbage Philips were putting out at the same time for several times the price. Plasticky controls win out over all-plastic construction and bad soldering any time.
Philips may have owned Marantz (and Grundig) but their run-of-the-mill gear in the late 1980s and early 1990s was often complete rubbish. Even the Belgian-made Philips/Marantz CD players of this period were very nasty in construction -- miles behind Sony and Matsushita. The Marantz amps, tuners etc were all made in Japan and were orders of magnitude better made. I went through a phase of buying Philips in this era and regretted almost every purchase. From VCRs that failed after a couple of years to TVs with failed tubes very early in life to audio systems where the auto-reverse on the tape decks couldn't stay in alignment and CD players/tuners with backlit LCDs that failed quickly. Compared to these, humble Sanyo were a paragon of reliability and simple, honest design.
Jason james OK give you that,it was a cheap line, but what did they put out during the same time in the studio standard line or any series that was of audiophile quality ?
Cheap and cheerful indeed! They just don't build stuff like this anymore. Even the cheap amps of the era still work! I just recently inherited a technics amp from my dad, still in the original box. I fired it up and it worked! 30+ years in a box hasn't affected it at all. Anyway, good video!
I had a Fisher hifi system back in 1987 and I loved it. Good bass comes from those amplifiers. Wish I still had it today and the amp had switchable loudness too.
I have a CA-38U which is very similar to yours. I use it in the garage. It's actually pretty heavy with a decent transformer and discrete outputs. This was when Fisher was owned by Sanyo.
The transformer looks to be decent sized and probably is adequate for the amp chip's rated output. Some of the cheap home theater in a box systems and AV receivers I see appear to have even smaller sized transformers to drive a 5 channel amp. I'd love to see a vid of you showing the output and clipping on a scope to see how well it performs. :-)
+ESDI80 I think you would need to be very brave to do a power sine wave test!
+ESDI80
I might do that at some point. We'll see.
The sliders and controls and even the output transistors are similar to my old Technics receiver made by Sanyo. Still working after 30+ years. And still sounds pretty good with 35 watts per channel.
STK's were mainly used in 'mini hifi components' by Sony, AIWA. They do actually sound quite decent.
It's not about the sound. Usually they were quite ok, and used also in expensive hi-fi gear. The problem with them is that one they burn out, there are no replacements available and the amp using them is unusable. For the regular solid state amps you can still find replacement transistors or equivalents.
All that Fisher components from 80`s were made by Sanyo in Japan. But this is just entry level gear, so you cannot expect audiophile rank. But these things work for decades.
I've been using a ca-335 for more than 10 years and it's been working fine. I bought it for 5 euros at a dismantling plant I used to work for, when I needed a basic amplifier. The only issue I've had with it has been the lack of power - sure you will get evicted from your home with it but it won't sound good doing that. It starts to clip pretty easily compared to anything more modern or even anything more expensive from the time period. But the eq works well to balance out movies ridiculous bass which would be a problem otherwise with large speakers like I have. And btw, the word loudness in the volume knob might not mean the effect loudness but just be a stupid japanese way of saying volume. I have never seen an amplifier that has integrated loudness into volume - I don't think that is a thing.
I got a fisher ca-862a from a friend almost a year ago and have finally found some substitute bulbs for the spectrum analyzer. Can’t find much information on it although it is one of the more higher ended amplifiers in this model range from 1986-87. I like some of fishers products, just not the cheap ones like in this video.
Wow amazing !!! My amp needed to be at 7 or even 8 before I put the product and it had trouble between the left and right the contact it hurt .. Today it is enough to be at 2 to have enormous power at above 2 my subwoofer of 100w saturates! It was my dad's amp he used in the 90s
Well done Sir, I just seen this junk for sale on CL. I think the blood sucker wanted $150.00. Surprising the DC offset was very very Good.
I love my CA-871.
There is really nothing "Studio standard" about this amplifier, but otherwise it is a nice piece of low-end equipment. With all in the video mentioned approaches, which make it nicely serviceable. I liked it's simple design, which resulted in quite transparent - although also a tad raw sound. Have been using for audio in our movie projections and it performed nicely. And movies with their dynamics and bass effects are quite a demanding task for an amplifier. The thing which really annoyed me were those slider potentiometers, it was hard to set them accurately.
So, what are you going to use it for? A room at my work has a Fisher "Studio Standard" system, with the matching tuner and speakers. The CD player and cassette deck are both Sony. The one at my work appears to be a little higher up than the one you were demonstrating. I will say, I was impressed with the sound of the system, maybe the room has good acoustics, but if I find myself working in there, I often will turn the radio on.
+weasel2htm
The amp is probably going to be used for a computer system in my little AV studio area. At the moment I have the Aiwa amp in there that I repaired about a year ago which is a bit of an overkill.
I have a couple of Fisher items in the loft, both badged as "Studio Standard" - a CD player and a top-loading VCR. The VCR gave rather a nice picture for a long time but needs a head-cleaning now.
I use that amp for 20yrs now and it works great upgraded to some klipsch sprakers and it sounds pretty good although i prefer my dolby atmos system but to be honest its pretty good amp for the price but like in your video i never had outcuts i ghanged fuses 2 times but never had an outcut
You can often remove the loudness function on some of these amplifiers with ease. The volume pot will have another tap on it about 50% travel, this tap stops the loudness running all the time as it should only work at low volume. If the amplifier has such a tap, simply disconnect it. The loudness function is gone. Should sound a lot better with all that extra muffled bass removed.
+Michael Beeny
Yes, I have thought about that. You don't really need the loudness to begin with because there's also the equalizer!
Is funny that you mention that it was "MAde in japan...by Sanyo" because i have a Sanyo amp from the same era and it looks pretty much the same. Actually most of the cheap equipment of that times looks also kind of like "the same" but with different brand labels.
I had what looks like the ca-40 which looks similar to this one except it had a volume knob and volume indicator.
The speakers it came with was so horrible that it would bottom out and crash into the magnet when turning the volume above 3.
you haven't seen enough bad. when i was young in 80's eraser heads was natural magnet.. and Fisher was the best brand in my dreams..
I have seen plenty of cassette recorders with permanent magnets as erase head. Those are junk. Fisher is cheap, but not junk.
Nice video. You've turn a crap amp into a nice video and done some maintenance to that amp.
still might be handy to use though for maybe PC sound or connected to laptop for games if play them.
Now knowing that STK chips don't have short circuit, i'll be more careful with my aiwa NSX-5200, it uses an STK 4231 MKII, but at least it has very big caps and 4 relays, 2 for each frontal channel, 1 for both surround speakers and 1 for the subwoofer
The STK shouldn't be cutting out like that . They were notorious for playing up and used to cut out when they became faulty , other faults were intermittent channel drop out when they warmed up etc. Under normal circumstances they were reasonably reliable with reasonable fidelity . As another contributor has pointed out they were used by Sony and Aiwa in their products as well. Mostly their midi box hifis.
+Glpi lpi I agree
On my units I put a line fuse on 120 volt AC primary side of the power cord work comes into the unit and I always put it on the live side of the cord which would be the black wire or the side without the white stripe or if the court has a rib on one side I put it on the side of the cord that does not have a rib that smooth and you can tell if the cord is polarized 1 prong will be wider than the other that's how you know that it's polarized some of them are not polarized consult with an authorized service center before doing
That may all be true for the American system, but we don't have that here.
I have Fisher RS-2002 Receiver with the left channel out. Do you think it is the stereo amplifier. It is the STK043 . I took it in to a vintage repair shop and the tech said not to bother if that part went throw away. What do you think? Thanks for your input.
The STK hybrid amplifier circuits unfortunately are not very good. They usually lack any protection, so they get damaged easily. It's very likely that this has happened on your amplifier. The problem is the STK circuits are not available anymore, so there are only two options: Try to find a new old stock circuit somewhere (very expensive) or try to find another amplifier with the same circuit that can act as a parts unit (quite difficult, there were many different STK circuits made). The STK circuits you find online, for example on Ebay, are usually Chinese fakes that are not nearly as good as the originals or don't work at all.
Not too bad though, certainly better than the cheap chinese amps on eBay
I have this amplifier but it won't start. All fuses are OK. What could be wrong?
Check the primary and secondary sides of the transformer with a multimeter. Start from there and if you have anymore questions I’d be glad to help
Hi, can you help me maybe it do the same stuff for you too when i turned the volume up its just maked no sound but there was still lights on but theres no sound if i put it to low or anything
This amplifier has a protection circuit, it cuts off the audio output if you overload the power amplifier. Make sure the impedance of your speakers is not too low (rating is printed on the back of the amplifier), if it is correct you will have to accept that you can't turn the volume up so far. You could also try reducing the bass.
For some reason the heat sink fins reminded me of an aluminum ice tray from the 60's~70's.....
In the 1960's the Fisher name meant very high quality and the equipment was pricey. By the 1970's though, it started getting cheap. They put out a stereo cassette deck early on that wasn't very good. By the 1980's, they were down to this level of quality. But, they had to make money somehow, and people were more into other brands, such as Sansui, Onkyo, Akai, Pioneer etc.
The end of the competition era is when every one of them took a crap. Everything after that the bean counters made them all cut corners.
Nice shaved aluminium heatsink
Nice video. I have some of the same crap from fisher. They weren't fooling me. You can tell by the front panel and the ribbon connectors on the inside that it's China or Taiwan cheep! Nice video!!! Love your channel. Who has even heard of the cap brand??? Loser brand.
I have a Fisher CA 226 graphic 5 band graphic equalizer with a channel out is it fixable
Before screwing around, I’d give those sliders some contact cleaner. Is the channel faint or completely dead?
If everything seems ok, according to some of these posts it could be the stk chip. Read below for more detail
Not to mention when Fisher was on it's last legs they were just tossing out pretty poor sounding speakers.
I've got CA-225R and the difference in quality between these two adjacent numbers is quite obvious - the latter has much more quality (e.g. 225 for its rather midget size weighs 5.1 kg (!), it has a lot of LEDs - power level indicator, each band of equlizer has its own LED, 4 real and good output transistors, etc.) and soundwise it's more attractive. 223 isn't even a shadow of 225 but a pathetic mimic though they are somewhat similar in design..
i saw some HFR glitching in this video, may i guess you used Smooth Video Project to make this video from 25fps to 50fps?
+André Campana Merétika Ran perfectly well on my 79 inch LG TV at 720p
Michael Beeny I played on a 19 inch Samsung monitor at 1080p 75Hz using DVI
+André Campana Merétika
I noticed some glitching too, but I'm pretty sure that's RUclips's fault. The video was natively recorded in 1080p50 on a Panasonic HC-X909 camcorder.
This amplifier deserves more capacitance in the power supply.
+Nathan Campos as cheaply made as this thing is, if i swapped in 47's, i'd constantly be waiting for the trafo to fry!
+Nathan Campos You could put in bigger filter caps, but you'd also have to upgrade the rectifier. The transformer could take it.
DrCassette amazing! they managed to skimp on the rectifier, too!
+Der Ubersau
I didn't check exactly, but the diodes for the rectifier are something similar to the 1N4007 diodes. Certainly not good for any high current.
6:54 weird! Must be looking out the main cap (2200uF 35v) then replace. The STK 41xx series are cheap ıc. but no shitty component. Simple solutions like this amplifier.
I'm apologize for bad english. Regards.
I have a simple question...why create an industry called Fisher when it from Sanyo ?
It have no sense....like Technics and Panasonic!
By the way, drcassette, nice improvement on your video's intro :)
+Naitoraven951
Fisher was a well established brand in the US when Sanyo took over. Image you are in a store and you have the choice between a brand you've known for years and one you've never seen before and that has a strange sounding name. Which one would you choose if you don't have the time or the ability to compare the two products to each other? And as for Panasonic and Technics, those names are much easier to read, speak and remember than Matsushita ;)
+DrCassette Ah okay, i see.
Infact, fisher is recognized like high-end stereo o amplifier. But, ever for me, then i don't understand the quality of a one product...this is really cheap!
+DrCassette
The Panasonic version of Fisher was Quasar, which they bought from Motorola in the 70s and used on mostly lower end stuff in the American market.
I had no idea Fisher branded electronics were sold in Europe, I always thought it was a North America only brand.
+DrCassette Fisher-branded amps made by a large Japanese multinational, or Panasonic-branded TVs 30 years later made in a dusty Turkish shed. Hmmm, I wonder which is the more egregious rip-off!
Akai also made crap like this. I had a stk powered plastic amp that curiously got it's power transformer fried and not the amplifier hybrid.
Yes, I saw an Akai amp at a flea market the other day. All plastic, terrible.
Nice job
Fisher did still make good equipment back then, you just had to buy near the top of the line.
I use the Fisher CA-225 now and I like it quite a bit. I matched it with some Paradigm Atoms and a sub.
They should have named it Sound Design
"Soundesign Standard by Fisher"
Back in the day, we used to laugh at the Fisher brand, we really did!
That's got to be the cheapest "real" integrated amplifier ever! If only they'd left out the loudness curve entirely, or at least made it user switchable, things might not have been so dire.
The built in protection on those STK modules oftentimes doesn't work, usually because a DC fault blows it away.
AY didn't expect to find you here
In case you want to see the datasheet for my STK, here it is: pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/41608/SANYO/STK4231II.html
It cuts off too fast so sensitive, not even loud enough to blast Ur neighbor, i think my TdA 2030 is much louder than that...
As somebody who has suffered under this sort of behaviour for years all I can say is: Do not blast your neighbour!
I'm not a bad person, don't take it so literally, i enjoyed music so much to the extent that I want to crank it once in a while, and on occasion birthdays like that i play loud, we play loud, occasionally we love to sing Karaoke way , well we have different ways of expressing it.. thank you so much
Ohhhhh, amp on a chip---I wonder if Avery Fisher would've sold his company to Sanyo if he knew how badly they would damage the Fisher name? If he were alive, I'm sure he'd be disgusted.
I think Avery Fisher passed away in the late 80s or early 90s... So he (unfortunately) would have been well aware of what Sanyo had turned his brand into.
oh wow
Oh wow, this thing is nasty. Remembers me a lot of all these cheap all in one systems... only not all in one.
Avery Fisher would not be proud of this cheap unit.
Certainly not.
A very basic system, ok for a kid's bedroom.
Hahaha "studio standard" more like "recycle bin standard". Remember having a Fisher amp from the mid 80s which fried a resistor and smoked like a Russian Lada.
Don't think it's fair to be this critical of an amp that was probably very cheap to buy in the first place. It does seem better made in a lot of areas than the typical garbage Philips were putting out at the same time for several times the price. Plasticky controls win out over all-plastic construction and bad soldering any time.
+Jason james philips owned marantz one of the best hifi brands around never seen badly made philips audio before .
Philips may have owned Marantz (and Grundig) but their run-of-the-mill gear in the late 1980s and early 1990s was often complete rubbish. Even the Belgian-made Philips/Marantz CD players of this period were very nasty in construction -- miles behind Sony and Matsushita. The Marantz amps, tuners etc were all made in Japan and were orders of magnitude better made.
I went through a phase of buying Philips in this era and regretted almost every purchase. From VCRs that failed after a couple of years to TVs with failed tubes very early in life to audio systems where the auto-reverse on the tape decks couldn't stay in alignment and CD players/tuners with backlit LCDs that failed quickly. Compared to these, humble Sanyo were a paragon of reliability and simple, honest design.
Jason james OK give you that,it was a cheap line, but what did they put out during the same time in the studio standard line or any series that was of audiophile quality ?
Philips 8000 series has all metal construction . Way better than . Fisher crap from this time
Even the 6000 series is better than this .
That amplifier is not worth the contact spray you used on it, but still an interesting video.
Класс!!!
Wow this is bad, even yugoslavian RIZ in cop. with Unitra Diora did it alot better
got it for 10 bucks lmao