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Fugazi: The Argument at the Heart of Punk's Finest Hour
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2021
- Fugazi blazed a post-hardcore trail on Dischord Records out of the confines of punk formulas. Ian Mackaye, Guy Picciotto, Joe Lally and Brendan Canty achieved independent DIY success on a scale that no other alternative rock band has matched. And in the 90s, their argument against the necessity of major label support and music business tradition saw them accomplish arguably punk's greatest moment.
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One of the few bands that had a perfect discography, The Argument is a timeless classic.
Yep, they never put a foot wrong 🙂
Fugazi is one of the greatest bands of all time it doesn't matter what you label them.The were pure.
Hit the nail on the head, my friend. This is my absolute, all-time favorite band. Of Ever.
When you go back and listen to the whole discography starting with Minor Threat, then Embrace and Pailhead with Uncle Al, Rites of Spring, finally their discography... The evolution of their song writing is incredible. The opening bassline of "Waiting Room." "Blueprint" on Repeater. Red Medicines "Do you like me?." "Smallpox Champion", "Rend it", "Facet Squared", even "23 beats off" on Kill Taker. "Arpeggiator.." All of these songs, experiences... Getting to the title track, "The Argument" and it being so stripped down. Just Ian and a piano to start and then just building and building tension and release at the very end.
Sadly, never got to see them live, but I honestly probably wouldn't have had the capacity to truly appreciate what I was seeing at the time.
The word is INTEGRITY. That is why I will love them always.
I bought my first Fugazi cassette tape when I was 16, and it had just come out. Margin Walker. Yeah, that's how fuckin old I am...
This is exactly right. I saw them in Richmond Virginia in 1989. The best live show I ever saw and afterwards Ian and all the band hung around on stage and shook everyone's hand and talked.
My favorite band of all time, always. Been a fan since age 15 (1992), and was lucky enough to see them play 6 times. Great video!
Thanks Nick!
I got into Fugazi at the age of 18, I'm 47 now and still my favourite band of all time. As a straight up hardcore kid, they were difficult to 'get' for around six months until I heard Marginwalker. Then Repeater and Kill Taker (my favourite).
i was born in 1976, and remember the moment i put Repeater into the tape deck of my car in 1993.
50 here - the funny thing back then was, someone gave me a cassette with Fugazi on it at the schoolyard, I put it in the player at home and found it very dissonant, began to fast forward, took it out and kind of forgot about it. Half a year later put it back in, like "I'm bored and never listened to that closely" and it hit me. Next 5 years die hard fan. Saw them once in Bielefeld, Germany.
first song i heard was 'Turnover' and it was instantly transformative@@archibaldikowski3646
The Argument is one of those albums I don't listen to regularly but every time I do it's better than I remembered. You're spot on in saying that they stand alone.
Yeah I emailed dischord records as a kid and Guy emailed me back... Pretty cool though... They were definitely the coolest.. I am praying for a fugazi reunion at this point!
I'd love to see them again. I can't imagine Guy pulling off some of his old moves now he's in his 50s, but I'd still love it, nevertheless 😄
Awe, it makes me so happy to hear someone that mirrors my feelings on Fugazi. Them and Sonic Youth were my "soundtrack" in my early years and have "taken me home" to this day. They Are my favorite Punk band.
Mine too! Probably my favourite band, hand on heart.
Absolute gods. Red Medicine is (imho) the best album of the 90s. You're right too: people overlook the music, which fucking rocked hard.
All hail fugazi
I saw fugazi a couple times, one time was on last tour in Boston. Anyone who saw them will tell everyone that they were the best live show ever.
YES! Greatest punk rock and roll band ever.
Been a Fugazi fan since '13 Songs', great video on their history.
Fugazi charged a $5.00 ticket price and all live shows where 'All Ages'.
In the USA the drinking age is 21, most bands play at venues selling booze, so many people get shut out of seeing bands, not Fugazi. And 'All Ages' live shows were looked down upon by many concert goers.
American Legion for the win!
Absolutely amazing band. Thanx for this video
Great video essay. Thank you.
Great video, love it. I grew up with all the bands referenced, Rites of Springs included ha. I came to Fugazi and was blown away, oddly key to me was more Brendan Canty and Joe Lally. I know where the brain trust was in Ian for making it all work and Guy for providing many of the vocals on my favorite every songs, but man, those two are incredible behind the always incredible guitar landscape. And yes it’s true, only $5 a show for as long as I knew
Absolutely - an incredible rhythm section. As a drummer myself, Canty was a big inspiration, and as I say in the vid, I definitely think Lally was their secret weapon. What a bass player!
Love this band, probably my favourite rock band ever. Wish they wouldn’t say that they are on a ‘extended hiatus’ that means a ‘long break’ - 2 decades is a long break ! and I’m still hoping for a new album and tour 🤣
I was fortunate enough to see them live on every album from ‘red medicine’ onwards although I want to say ‘in on the kill taker’ which is my favourite Fugazi album. The Steve Albini demos of that album, on RUclips are worth a listen !
I know what you mean! I know it's not quite the same, but I love 'Clean Kill' by Coriky and hearing it for the first time last year, I just got hit with such a sense of nostalgia and pleasure hearing Ian singing and playing guitar with Joe again. Made me realise how much I've missed them. I should probably check out The Evens!
@@2020Sound The Evens are good, saw them years ago in London. Now that Coriky album sounded like Fugazi in parts. Would be great if they toured the UK 👍
That Coriky record is brilliant.
Is it true that Fugazi refused to charge more than $5 per ticket their whole career?
@@jowlorenz9555 for the most part. I think near the end or if they played with a bunch of bands it went up to a whopping $7 a ticket.
good work, good commentary, nice to see some other folks see these things as i do. also with you on The Fall.
They lived for this deeply , all of the shows on stage showing through the energy fans reverberate catch’s the scene . Anything on youtube you can filter for their live performances is worth the look , just a Short time ago
Great vid. You put the work in and you nailed it.
Wow! You are amazing! I love your channel. Thanks for your valuable contributions!
Thanks very much Didi, glad you've enjoyed the content!
@@2020Sound possible to get in touch somehow?
Enjoyed your video -- like a lot of kids discovering punk at the start of the 90's, I remember the moment I first heard 13 songs.
Thanks Ben!
great vid mate. thanks!
Thanks Yonatan!
Good stuff, dude. I can somewhat relate to the experience of getting a mail directly from Fugazi. In 1992 my 15-year-old Fugazi-obsessed friend (who "infected" me with punk and hardcore) wrote a letter to Dischord, and a month or two later he got a hand-written letter from Guy himself. His excitement was next level. That was when I was introduced to them along with NoMeansNo, and got hooked from the get-go.
I remember reading an article in Polish alternative press titled "The Godfathers of Underground", which was about therm and NoMeansNo, as those who pioneered the DIY ethics. Whether they were first is debatable, but without a doubt both bands have been true to their punk roots, and never sold out despite numerous temptations from big labels. Even though NoMeansNo remains my absolute favorite band, Fugazi will always have a special place in my heart, being one of my favorite bands.
Thanks Pawel! It's just a really nice touch them taking the time to reply to people, especially back when that meant writing actual letters. Can you remember what your friend asked them?
@@2020Sound It's been almost 30 years, so I don't remember exactly, but I think it was just standard praising fluffer, and asking if their tapes or CDs would be available in Poland. At that time we had mostly bootlegs available, and mixed tapes were the thing, and original records were hard to get and quite expensive.
I remember hearing Waiting Room on KUMN, "The Underground Connection" show. Never heard anything quite like it, and really still haven't.
It was Fugazi and NoMeansNo, to me, who most redefined the genre rather than just distilling it.
Spot on!!
Yeah, nice vid, and one of the few on RUclips discussing Fugazi. I've loved them since the 90's and have never got sick of them! I think that's because they have one of the best runs of great albums in rock history but also as you pointed out their music has got so much depth to it, it's not straight-forward music, it's got layers to sick your teeth into.
They should be mentioned in the same breath as The Clash or Nirvana but for the reasons you mentioned they never will be, just makes them more cool though :-)
Thanks Mark! Absolutely agree on all points. Definitely one of the best runs of albums in history. What I love about the run too is they evolved with each release, but retained a distinctive sound. Each album's at least a little different to the last, but each album sounds unmistakably like Fugazi.
Nice work, young fella!
I really do love how passionate you feel about this band. This is how I felt about them for many years during the 90’s and beyond. Although I have put them aside over the last few years because there is so much other good music to listen too (jazz from 1955-1959 being some of my favourite) having watched this video it makes me feel that I miss this band soo much, I miss the anticipation of going to their lives shows, the sense of electricity before, during and after their performance, standing in that room. I miss the excitement of their latest album and being fully immersed and lost within their songs, lyrics, the Ian song then Guy song then back to Ian song dynamic. The staccato sound, the disjointed angular, kinetic fury of it all. I miss the 90’s, particularly the early 90’s when there were so many good rock / metal bands putting out so many good albums. I feel lost in the present day not knowing what the present punk / metal scene even sounds like! The 90’s is my era, passion and education through attending live shows and Fugazi appealed to that stand up for myself attitude. A sense of justice, honesty and transparency. I really miss Fugazi.
Ps - since lockdown started and because of Fugazi and Ian’s interest in the British punk band Crass, I finally listened to the Crass albums and can certainly hear the influence. Going to see Crass (Steve) next year 👍
It's certainly a lot trickier these days to keep up with new stuff as there's just so much of it I imagine that I'm missing. My mechanism for finding new stuff hasn't changed too much: some magazines, good radio... but with the addition of a well-trained Spotify algorithm 😄 - although the latter has been useful in helping me discover new "old" music too. My biggest lockdown obsession was discovering Quicksand's album 'Slip'. I knew the band existed, knew Walter Schreifels and his stuff with Rival Schools, but had never actually heard the Quicksand stuff until Spotify threw it onto a playlist. Loved it! Crass are another bunch I've never gotten around to listening to, but their name has rung out loudly down the years. Any recommendations for them?
@@2020Sound thanks for the Quicksand tip, I knew of them but was into the bad Helmet a lot more. With Crass I would recommend 2 contrasting albums, their 2nd, ‘Stations of the Crass’ from ‘79 - you can hear bits of Fugazi in here and their 3rd album, ‘Penis Envy’ from ‘81 which is an album solely with female vocals and themed around sexual repression. Musically they are very different too. 2 amazing albums. Enjoy 👍
@@2020Sound just listening to the Crass song ‘Upright Citizen’ very Fugazi-esque 😊
@@2020Sound well I’ve been inspired to go to the Dischord site and see that the 3 live shows that I went to are available to download so I think I will 😊 I saw Fugazi at;
London, Brixton Academy - 5/13/1995
London, Rex - 5/15/1999
London, Forum - 11/4/2002
Nice MC5 Record! I will always have fugazi as one of my favorite bands of all time.
This album is just the greatest
Impressive legacy
.... And 20 years after after Fugazi answered a 18 year old kids he's still making great vids about indie music.
That's what a bit of real attention by a band can do
The thing about Fugazi is; we wouldn't be talking about their politics or business practices if they weren't such an absolutely STELLAR band.
Greatest band of all time.
I started hitting the gym when I watched a YT video recommending the band. I am happy for this coincidence, because otherwise I would not have looked for energetic music, which their "Kill Taker" album provided. After getting hooked on that album, I slowly embraced all the other albums and yeah, I think the discography is just great.
and also agree re Lally
No disagreement here; growing up outside Washington DC, hitting 18 in 1981 I followed the DC punk scene and even though I wasnt a true PUNK (more of a post punk, guy); so as you pointed out the Rites of Spring/Fugazi sound was what i needed....Joe went to my HS
What was Joe like at school?
@@2020Sound didnt know him well, he hung out with the art kids; this was years before he was in Fugazi. The thing about DC punk was it centered on the DC kids (not so much the suburban Maryland kids); especially Discord; not saying they were not inclusive....not sure how Joe got in Fugazi
Fugazi kicks ass. And i kind of live by similar rules as them, not to the same degree but still... I have principles that i stand by.
Also, those four elements you mentioned... Aggression, groove, melody and textures. Yep, i have the same stuff i find important. Along with psychedelia and dynamics.
And what you said about Joe Lally, you could basically say the same about Eric Avery in Jane's Addiction. Another one of those pionering bands, and of my biggest favorites.
I'm surprised how little views your videos have.
Thanks Lauri! Yeah, the bass is pretty crucial to JA songs, isn't it? A great bassline can really make a song for me.
@@2020Sound Damn right! Bass is an underrated instrument. And drummers best friend (i play drums myself)
I'm a drummer too! Brendan was definitely a big influence on me.
@@2020Sound I have only been listening to Fugazi for a year or so, my biggest influence in playing drums is probably Chad Sexton of 311. By the way 311's first gig ever was opening for Fugazi! 😄
Fugazi really were the future.
base players drive the storm. Much love for your contrert
Thanks JJ!
The Clash told CBS to release Sandinista as a double album, but sell it as if it was a single album.
Hmmm... I left a note on their van after a show in St.Louis in maybe 90? +or- a year. No reply. I was asking for an interview for our local fanzine. Yes, before the internet we had to type, overlay then xerox and staple our magazines for the local youth. Heard nothing.... waited a year before I gave up hope. I assumed by some of their lyrics that they simply didn’t care about local fan-zines. Guess I missed the message. But you get an interview 30 years later? WTF? I was from a small town south of St. Louis but always shared their sound and awesome lyrics with every college to middle school kid that would listen. Good times, awesome music and lyrics but having the band speak directly to the youth of southeastern Missouri would have been epic. I still remember placing that letter under the windshield wiper of that van with some hope. Lmao. I’m still waiting guys. I’ll have to see if my friend and editor “Lonny” is still alive and healthy so we can type, overlay, print and staple a fanzine. Lmfao yes, we gave them out for free. Culture should always be free. Cheers
Honestly, all I did was email whatever address they had on the Dischord website back in '02! Maybe you should email the label and ask Ian if they ever got the note (you sure it was definitely their van? 😄).
Hi, Would you say the best place to start with Fugazi is 'Repeater'?
That's a great question! I think the best place to start is probably the '13 Songs' compilation of their first two EPs. One of the things I love about Fugazi's body of work is the evolution: there's some sense of progression with each release, but they always retain a really distinctive, unmistakable sound. So starting at the very beginning is probably best to appreciate that.
But also, it's full of some absolute bangers 😄. Some of my favourite Fugazi songs are on there: Give Me The Cure, Suggestion, Burning Too etc.
'Repeater' is an excellent jumping on point too, though. You can't go wrong, really!
Get in touch again,ask them to reform,we need them
You don't need a record company but you need to upload your music to spotify, apple music, youtube, etc. and share your revenue with tech giants, and promote your music on instagram, facebook, youtube, etc. and feed these tech companies with ad revenue by doing so. That's today's irony for DIY musicians. It's like working with the worst record label of all times, these tech giants covering nothing of your costs, doing nothing for marketing your music, doing nothing for your artist development, doing nothing for producing the album, and sharing a huge part of your profit because they are the main channels of distribution. Barrier to entry may be reduced, yet only resulting to more musicians earning less, feeding the same giant machines under different names, and more and more mediocre music flooding the market.
Hmm...as it happens, I have a bunch of Fugazi albums on "My watch later" list on YT, knew about the band and Ian MacKaye before. Listening atm to "13 Songs" is that a compilation? Brilliant stuff! Ever heard of Kaaos, Finnish hardcore punk from the 80's? (ruclips.net/video/3jLATPOusrY/видео.html)
Yeah, 13 Songs is a compilation of their first two EPs ('Fugazi' from '88 and 'Margin Walker' from '89). The two flow together so well, though, that it might as well be a proper studio album. Thanks for the recommendation! Never heard any Finnish hardcore before, but I'll check them out.
You get a like for using the word “flabbergasting “.
They’re not for “purists” they have more than one or two songs people like, they were playing the same venues as nickelback and they’ve made a living being independent artists and producers for most of their lives now without having to get”real jobs” you don’t need to be millionaires to be successful. But hey great comment bro
" punk"$ finest hour????! WTF!!!??? WOW !!! Oi was punks only REAL HOUR EVERYTHING ELSE WAS A CORPORATE SCAM!!! SAVE IT
self-knowledge or idiocy. The fact remains, they are a band for purists and that ain't gonna change anything. Sure, they might have one or 2 songs that people like, but they had a chance to bring it t a larger audience. Turning their back on 10 million dollars is asceticism, a foolish one.
The band always were about independence and self sufficiency. They carried that all the way.
The counter argument to signing to a major label was that anyone could order their music directly from Dischords, plus I believe owning your masters shows mc Kaye was smarter in the long run.
LIBERALISM KILLED PUNK!! INDIVIDUALISM IS THE ONLY BRETH OF LIFE LEFT!