If you work at a tennis place, you'd be amazed with how stupid some of the people that walk in there. We have people coming in with a 135 head size racquet wanting strung with L/ALU rough at 2lbs below max and he put string-a-lings on every cross not just the sweet spot..
it happens when you do the "brush up myth" and not push the racket through the ball rather by swinging it up like a wiper and mishitting the sweet spot. ahahaha
A thicker beam gives you more power the thicker the beam, the more power, the thinner the beam, the more control and less power it gives you. So in contest, you could say that a thicker beam might give you more spin because a thick beam would be lighter and more powerful, making you swing faster and give you more power to generate. The other side is that, if you hit it too hard, you'll get your spin, but you'll over hit. It depends on your playing style and level. Players lie Djokovic play with a Head Speed Pro, which has a thinner beam, and the string pattern is closed (18 x 20) which means, less ball pocketing from the string bed and less power from the racket beam, but a player like Djokovic, who is a big hitter, has a lot of power to generate on his own, which also gives him the spin he needs out of a 18x 20 so a thick beam will give him too much power. If you are a big hitter and need accuracy, a thinner beam, and you will eventually generate more spin. If you are a recreational beginner/intermediate, then thicker beam will give you more spin because it will give you more power which is what you need.
wish I found this about 3 days ago when I was being educated by a parent that their 12 y/o should be using poly and I didn't know what I was on about. I've copied and pasted it to him. We can but hope he learns something.
No one thinks that higher tension gives more power, but it's actually not completely true that lower tensions give more power either. Rather, the velocity ends up being about the same, but the ball will launch deeper.
Absolutely correct. Looser strings have a higher launch angle (due to the ball staying on the string bed a fraction of a second longer) thereby giving people the incorrect assumption the ball is landing deeper in the court because of more velocity.
@@JW-bw8nj wrong. The center of the strings on a loose stringbed has the same launch angle as a tighter stringbed. More trampoline effect equals longer balls.
@@pappyprimetime7510 This is from an article written for Tennis Industry magazine. They did extensive experimenting using high speed cameras to test spin, speed, trajectory, etc when comparing two identical rackets (one strung at 40 lbs and the other at 70 lbs): "The racquet shown in Figure 1 was strung at 40 pounds, and you can see that the mains strings deform downwards during the impact. However, this downward string motion was generally not seen in our tests for the racquet strung at 70 pounds. The amount of movement of the strings will affect the impact because it influences the location at which the ball leaves the racquet. Therefore this string movement will affect the speed AND ANGLE at which the ball leaves the racquet and thus where the ball will land on the court." Like I said before, lower string tensions provide a higher ball trajectory compared to tighter string tensions with little to no increase in actual ball speed.
I wish that you could make strings like the Rafael Nadal RPM blast have an additional colour where the strings are mainly green (same sort of green as the rackets) and black logo.
He makes it sound like you have to have pro athlete with guns like Nadal to use full poly. BEEEEEP that's a dragon and I'm killin that one. I'd say highschool or experienced middleschooler and up is fine for full poly. If you're a baseliner and love taking big cuts and producing lots of spin then try them out. I had used a poly/synthetic hybrid string setup and I wasn't very consistent with it. I picked up a co-poly "gamma moto 17g" for my graphene speed pro and I have absolutely loved it. I was hammering serves and able to get amazing spin and kick to my shots. It also has really good durability compared to others from what I hear. I got it strung in late December and I am now(April) beginning to notice that the tension has gotten a bit too loose to shrug off and the performance I'm getting now is definitely not as good as when they were first strung. I play club tennis for my college and we practice 3 times a week except I haven't been able to make the majority of them. Vokl Cyclone is another that's supposed to be good. Test different string out though. Everyone drools over the RPM blast / VS gut hybrid but I didn't like them too well. Don't let this dude tell you what strings you should / shouldn't use, find out yourself.
You're more clueless than you sound. Not everyone is up for that monster because it is something that takes time and skill to use. A poly will always be a poly. Co-polys are bullcrap because they still are poly. Now don't get me wrong but Gamma moto is a good poly because it bites the ball better but using it on an 18/20 setup (graphene speed pro) is kinda counter-intuitive because you already have a dense setup. Gamma moto like any other poly has good durability and that's already a known fact. Obviously, you're not good with keeping up with your stringing because December and April are two months that are a bit far away from each other. First off you lose 2lbs your first 48hrs. If you practice 3 times a week then get your racquet strung at least 3-6 times a year. Volkl cyclone is an iffy string to use because in my opinion stringing it is fun because it's surfaced but you have to have the right blend if you're gonna hybrid it. Lastly, they should be drooling over than because that is Babolat's version of champions choice as well as PHT (Pro Hurricane Tour) 17/VS 16. This guy knows what he's doing because he is the stringer.
you are correct sir. co poly's are a complete fallacy. and, as i always tell customers you lose 2 lbs in the first 24-48 hrs. amazing how little ppl know about strings. thx for spreading CORRECT information about string
Small Anal man hybrid. Gosen sheep micro with a spin poly maybe.... but it’s not that easy, there are a lot of options. The best combination for what you want maybe will only be playable for a few hours so must be expensive. ( players just use the same strings for a few hours and the restring the racket again) so it’s not easy at all!
Kirschbaum Max Power. Even though the name is "Max Power" it is not a power string it is great for spin and as a co-poly monofilament it rarely breaks.
All experienced players have long since learned that more tension does not mean more power. But almost every beginner even up to uninformed intermediates assume more tension=more power. It is somewhat counter-intuitive that the opposite is true. I run into that all the time. Ball sliding up to hit the frame? Scratching my head over that one.
@@miguelpessanha We agree on that, yes. But you said that nobody believed the opposite - that higher tension does equal more power - in other words you don't believe this is a common "myth" that needs to be corrected. I'm saying you are wrong about that. Many, maybe most novices, even some experienced players, are under the misconception that tension=power. It is a myth in that sense. I say that based on 25 years of bi-weekly playground tennis and countless conversations with casual players.
Monofilament is not durable: “Correct, if you use it right.” Monofilament is for everyone: “Wrong, It’s only made for extreme durability.” I assume he means it won’t last long but IS able to handle extreme topspin.
It is traditional thinking that thinner string has better bite and spin of a ball. But, would thicker string has more contact volume with the ball; thus, thicker string creates more rotations?
No. Spin depends on the control, as control is a must to have a confidence. And spin is all about confidence. And a thin string doesn't give you enough control for you to have the full confidence.
The belief that thinner strings (all else being the same) provide more spin is due to the thinner strings causing the string bed to be a fraction more open. Generally speaking, the more open the string bed is the more spin the racquet can generate.
Thick/thin strings are comparable to a knife edge - thinner string is like a sharper knife edge, biting into the felt of the ball more deeply/effectively. More bite, more grip/spin.
Talking of knife edge as a comparsion, would a rough (300 grit) whetstone makes more deep/coarse scratchs on a knife surface than the smooth ultra-fine (12000 grit) whetstone? A fine string net like a sheet of flat paper as compare to a piece of wrinkle paper, which has more bite/friction with felt of a tennis ball?
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"People believe that the ball slides and then touches the frame." uhh what? Who thinks this? Certainly no one that has ever played tennis.
If you work at a tennis place, you'd be amazed with how stupid some of the people that walk in there. We have people coming in with a 135 head size racquet wanting strung with L/ALU rough at 2lbs below max and he put string-a-lings on every cross not just the sweet spot..
it happens when you do the "brush up myth" and not push the racket through the ball rather by swinging it up like a wiper and mishitting the sweet spot. ahahaha
All of these myths are very new and dumb to me.
A stringing legend when I started in 1985 and he is still regarded with sainthood by top stringers, a much respected "stringing guru" Liam
A thicker beam gives you more power the thicker the beam, the more power, the thinner the beam, the more control and less power it gives you. So in contest, you could say that a thicker beam might give you more spin because a thick beam would be lighter and more powerful, making you swing faster and give you more power to generate. The other side is that, if you hit it too hard, you'll get your spin, but you'll over hit. It depends on your playing style and level. Players lie Djokovic play with a Head Speed Pro, which has a thinner beam, and the string pattern is closed (18 x 20) which means, less ball pocketing from the string bed and less power from the racket beam, but a player like Djokovic, who is a big hitter, has a lot of power to generate on his own, which also gives him the spin he needs out of a 18x 20 so a thick beam will give him too much power. If you are a big hitter and need accuracy, a thinner beam, and you will eventually generate more spin. If you are a recreational beginner/intermediate, then thicker beam will give you more spin because it will give you more power which is what you need.
What you do have against dragons?
wish I found this about 3 days ago when I was being educated by a parent that their 12 y/o should be using poly and I didn't know what I was on about. I've copied and pasted it to him. We can but hope he learns something.
Very useful info
Love this guy, merci!
No one thinks that higher tension gives more power, but it's actually not completely true that lower tensions give more power either. Rather, the velocity ends up being about the same, but the ball will launch deeper.
Absolutely correct. Looser strings have a higher launch angle (due to the ball staying on the string bed a fraction of a second longer) thereby giving people the incorrect assumption the ball is landing deeper in the court because of more velocity.
@@JW-bw8nj wrong. The center of the strings on a loose stringbed has the same launch angle as a tighter stringbed. More trampoline effect equals longer balls.
@@pappyprimetime7510 This is from an article written for Tennis Industry magazine. They did extensive experimenting using high speed cameras to test spin, speed, trajectory, etc when comparing two identical rackets (one strung at 40 lbs and the other at 70 lbs):
"The racquet shown in Figure 1 was strung at 40 pounds, and you can see that the mains strings deform downwards during the impact. However, this downward string motion was generally not seen in our tests for the racquet strung at 70 pounds. The amount of movement of the strings will affect the impact because it influences the location at which the ball leaves the racquet. Therefore this string movement will affect the speed AND ANGLE at which the ball leaves the racquet and thus where the ball will land on the court."
Like I said before, lower string tensions provide a higher ball trajectory compared to tighter string tensions with little to no increase in actual ball speed.
Great job dude.
he seems SO freaking happy and content with his life. i envy that so much LOL
I wish that you could make strings like the Rafael Nadal RPM blast have an additional colour where the strings are mainly green (same sort of green as the rackets) and black logo.
Maybe try Solinco Hyper-G.
The first question was completely wrong. If the frame is thicker you get more power, if the frame is thinner you get less power.
He makes it sound like you have to have pro athlete with guns like Nadal to use full poly. BEEEEEP that's a dragon and I'm killin that one. I'd say highschool or experienced middleschooler and up is fine for full poly. If you're a baseliner and love taking big cuts and producing lots of spin then try them out. I had used a poly/synthetic hybrid string setup and I wasn't very consistent with it. I picked up a co-poly "gamma moto 17g" for my graphene speed pro and I have absolutely loved it. I was hammering serves and able to get amazing spin and kick to my shots. It also has really good durability compared to others from what I hear. I got it strung in late December and I am now(April) beginning to notice that the tension has gotten a bit too loose to shrug off and the performance I'm getting now is definitely not as good as when they were first strung. I play club tennis for my college and we practice 3 times a week except I haven't been able to make the majority of them. Vokl Cyclone is another that's supposed to be good. Test different string out though. Everyone drools over the RPM blast / VS gut hybrid but I didn't like them too well. Don't let this dude tell you what strings you should / shouldn't use, find out yourself.
You should check out the Talk Tennis forums and Tennis Warehouse University sections on strings, lots of good info there.
You're more clueless than you sound. Not everyone is up for that monster because it is something that takes time and skill to use. A poly will always be a poly. Co-polys are bullcrap because they still are poly. Now don't get me wrong but Gamma moto is a good poly because it bites the ball better but using it on an 18/20 setup (graphene speed pro) is kinda counter-intuitive because you already have a dense setup. Gamma moto like any other poly has good durability and that's already a known fact. Obviously, you're not good with keeping up with your stringing because December and April are two months that are a bit far away from each other. First off you lose 2lbs your first 48hrs. If you practice 3 times a week then get your racquet strung at least 3-6 times a year. Volkl cyclone is an iffy string to use because in my opinion stringing it is fun because it's surfaced but you have to have the right blend if you're gonna hybrid it. Lastly, they should be drooling over than because that is Babolat's version of champions choice as well as PHT (Pro Hurricane Tour) 17/VS 16. This guy knows what he's doing because he is the stringer.
joe pro im a high school varsity player and polyester is the best thing that's happened to me
you are correct sir. co poly's are a complete fallacy. and, as i always tell customers you lose 2 lbs in the first 24-48 hrs. amazing how little ppl know about strings. thx for spreading CORRECT information about string
@@IgnatiusChinaskipoly is terrible
Lucien!
Yonex Poly Tour Fire, full bed @31.75kg to get the control I want. Get Wrekt.
OMFG! I use Yonex Poly Tour Spin and find it totally dead over 22 kg. I sting it between 19 and 21 kg (depending on the string bed).
If so what is the best string to get power spin and durability in one string
Small Anal man hybrid.
Gosen sheep micro with a spin poly maybe.... but it’s not that easy, there are a lot of options. The best combination for what you want maybe will only be playable for a few hours so must be expensive. ( players just use the same strings for a few hours and the restring the racket again) so it’s not easy at all!
Kirschbaum Max Power. Even though the name is "Max Power" it is not a power string it is great for spin and as a co-poly monofilament it rarely breaks.
Eric Haynes thx
MrTchupam thx
Some of these "dragons" are bullshit. Who thinks the ball slides from the strings and touches the frame? Who thinks higher tension gives you power?
All experienced players have long since learned that more tension does not mean more power. But almost every beginner even up to uninformed intermediates assume more tension=more power. It is somewhat counter-intuitive that the opposite is true. I run into that all the time. Ball sliding up to hit the frame? Scratching my head over that one.
@@bigalexg Exactly, you're agreeing with me. Higher tension obviously means less power
@@miguelpessanha We agree on that, yes. But you said that nobody believed the opposite - that higher tension does equal more power - in other words you don't believe this is a common "myth" that needs to be corrected. I'm saying you are wrong about that. Many, maybe most novices, even some experienced players, are under the misconception that tension=power. It is a myth in that sense. I say that based on 25 years of bi-weekly playground tennis and countless conversations with casual players.
Monofilament is not durable: “Correct, if you use it right.”
Monofilament is for everyone: “Wrong, It’s only made for extreme durability.”
I assume he means it won’t last long but IS able to handle extreme topspin.
Where is he from? France or France?
I want a babolat. :(
this is a dragon again, kill it :DDDD
It is traditional thinking that thinner string has better bite and spin of a ball. But, would thicker string has more contact volume with the ball; thus, thicker string creates more rotations?
No. Spin depends on the control, as control is a must to have a confidence. And spin is all about confidence. And a thin string doesn't give you enough control for you to have the full confidence.
The belief that thinner strings (all else being the same) provide more spin is due to the thinner strings causing the string bed to be a fraction more open. Generally speaking, the more open the string bed is the more spin the racquet can generate.
Thick/thin strings are comparable to a knife edge - thinner string is like a sharper knife edge, biting into the felt of the ball more deeply/effectively. More bite, more grip/spin.
Talking of knife edge as a comparsion, would a rough (300 grit) whetstone makes more deep/coarse scratchs on a knife surface than the smooth ultra-fine (12000 grit) whetstone? A fine string net like a sheet of flat paper as compare to a piece of wrinkle paper, which has more bite/friction with felt of a tennis ball?
40% what about the rest of the players and what would the rankings be f the 40 %? u r the best at this thanks
Roger Federer uses Natural gut at the cross string and hybrid strings is used Only by the top players
Federer uses natural gut in the mains, not the crosses.
This guy is weird af
So r geniuses who knows their jobs when others don't know