Former SAC Ramey AFB, PR. With B-36 later with B-52 & B-47 & KC-135. Now Borinquen Field, Aguadilla, PR. B-52 used to make raids from this base all the way down to Vietnam on certain occasions I was told. There's a USAF station with Early Warning Radars active today. The 141st which belongs to the PR Air Guard.
Thanks for the video Matt. Three things struck me on the first officer's approach. (1) his turn to final left him pretty far right of centerline, (2) he called for "flaps 35°" but was to fast; you can hear the captain call "to fast," and (3) seemed like the captain had to make the go around call instead of agreeing with the first officer.
The approach was fine as far as being high or low he just wasn't configured with gear and flaps down. Most if not all major airlines require you to be stable at 1000 feet and configured. I'm surprised the CA did not go around at the 1000 foot callout.
W.J. Carpenter That approach is a visual approach to 8 at BQN. There is a RNAV but at the time this was filmed it didnt exist. This appears to be an older video if you glance closely at the panel and listen to the callouts. It had not been converted to a MD10 yet. That approach has a lot of visual perception tricks to it if you come in on a tight base leg because you see the airport from an angle and then as you turn final the airport is on a 300 foot tall cliff. It can get tricky.
They are still flying with FedEx. They have some DC 10s, ex United and American still flying! They were built in the 70s and are now MD 10s, two man crew, no FE
BEFORE CONFUSION HAPPENS ON IF THIS IS A MD-10 OR DC 10 READ THE TITLE AND LOOK AT THE DATE (1-25-2000) THE COCKPITS WHERE NOT MODERNIZED UNTIL 2004-2007
You're welcome. This video was so cool! And also listen to that engine power! It's so amazing. That is one old looking cockpit as well. Wonderful video.
What kind of vintage propeller airline is that sitting in front of a hanger as seen out the side cockpit window at 5:19? Nobody seems to know! Looks to be something like a Douglas C-54 Skymaster or DC-6.
Maurits Veen I like it when people use all caps, it lets me know I can skip over whatever it was they thought they had to contribute and move on to someone writing like an adult.
Matt, it just dawned on me...how did you get the jumpseat? I thought FedEx had prohibited the use of the jumpseat following the attempted murder/hijacking of FedEx 705.
Wrong. FedEx allows flight crew(s) of any CASS approved air carrier with a reciprocal jumpseat agreement with FedEx to jumpseat. I have jumpseated on FedEX quite a bit.
Business is still allowed. Personal jumpseats weren't even discontinued after fly 705. It wasn't until the FAA put a stop to it after 9/11. Even then, Fred Smith was told that we could retrofit the aircraft bulkheads to be bulletproof and not allow j/s'ers in the cockpit and get the privilege back for personal use. He did that, but then they forbid it anyways after a couple years, probably 2003 or so.
dsimas1967 dude, you are wrong. You can use the FedEx jumpseat for leisure travel if you are a flight crewmember of a CASS participating airline which has a reciprocal JS agreement with FedEx. I have used FedEx to jumpseat for both work and vacation. Please don't comment if you don't know what you're talking about.
I stand corrected. I am a Fedex employee and j/s on the MD11 probably 50 times or so, prior to 9/11. So, I was honestly just pointing out some info on timelines, etc. I wasn't aware of the interline benefits. Sorry.
Dawn Simas You are correct, FedEx doesn't allow most of their employees to Jumpseat. Mechanics and pilots can, as well as a few others in certain circumstances. I fly for one of FedEx's Feeder Airlines. We have a reciprocal JS agreement with them so I've ridden the jumpseat quite often. It's a nice perk.
The plane was Not configured correctly , wrong flap setting ,landing gear, speed,ect so the aircraft alerted that it was to low thinking the plane was Not landing so telling the pilots to pull up,
They came in a little too fast for final flap selection - nice to see that there is no stress about going around - some companies get a bit upset when that happens, but they'd get even more upset if youd continue the landing "unstable".
When an airplane is prepared to land the gpws knows this because flaps are deployed and gear down. So at first it thinks the plane is landing, but when they decide to go around, the gear would be brought back up, and the gpws would activate since they aren’t in landing configuration.
Former SAC Ramey AFB, PR. With B-36 later with B-52 & B-47 & KC-135. Now Borinquen Field, Aguadilla, PR. B-52 used to make raids from this base all the way down to Vietnam on certain occasions I was told. There's a USAF station with Early Warning Radars active today. The 141st which belongs to the PR Air Guard.
Thanks for the video Matt. Three things struck me on the first officer's approach. (1) his turn to final left him pretty far right of centerline, (2) he called for "flaps 35°" but was to fast; you can hear the captain call "to fast," and (3) seemed like the captain had to make the go around call instead of agreeing with the first officer.
The approach was fine as far as being high or low he just wasn't configured with gear and flaps down. Most if not all major airlines require you to be stable at 1000 feet and configured. I'm surprised the CA did not go around at the 1000 foot callout.
W.J. Carpenter That approach is a visual approach to 8 at BQN. There is a RNAV but at the time this was filmed it didnt exist. This appears to be an older video if you glance closely at the panel and listen to the callouts. It had not been converted to a MD10 yet. That approach has a lot of visual perception tricks to it if you come in on a tight base leg because you see the airport from an angle and then as you turn final the airport is on a 300 foot tall cliff. It can get tricky.
Ryan, thanks for the additional info. Understood about the tricky approach at this airport.
W.J. Carpenter that’s why it’s Fed ex
Yeah I was thinking that might have been a downwind leg no way they were trying to land it. But they tried. Never a stable landing setup.
Nice video! I use to see these and the A310s coming to BQN and now I'm a planespotter and I miss them...
Nice video I miss the DC-10s they where beautiful
You are not the only one; I flew the DC10, L1011 and B777 and until this day the -10 remains my favorite.
They are still flying with FedEx.
They have some DC 10s, ex United and American still flying!
They were built in the 70s and are now MD 10s, two man crew, no FE
i know exactly what you mean
BEFORE CONFUSION HAPPENS ON IF THIS IS A MD-10 OR DC 10 READ THE TITLE AND LOOK AT THE DATE (1-25-2000) THE COCKPITS WHERE NOT MODERNIZED UNTIL 2004-2007
frmerboy777
Well, you could also tell because there was a flight engineer and analog gauges.
I was an instructor on MD-10s at FedEx in 2001...
I flew my first trip as a MD10 Captain on Oct. 14, 2000 on 364. I recall it had been a while since differences training.
Lucky guy to ride jump seat.
They would be AWESOME 🙏
This is what you call an airplane. Something that requires skills to fly. Miss seeing these birds everyday. Will be sad when this icon is gone
Airbus a340, 310,300,md 11 and l1011 were the best aircrafts. Sad many of them are not flying anymore
Fantastic video! Seemed like they were possibly to high but what was the reason for the go around?
Thanks,SoCal Spotter. Yes, they were too high on the approach.
+Matt Farris Thanks a bunch for the reply. I hope to fly for FedEx down the road so I appreciate you sharing this video!
@@mfarris314 why too high? Didn’t the call out say to low?
@@coca-colayes1958 They were too high and fast. But why the too low from the cockpit voice?
It’s possible the GPWS system just miss interpreted an obstacle in front of them. This is not too uncommon
AWESOME video! This aircraft is named "Dusty." Therefore this must be N68049, which is a MD/DC-10-10F.
Nick Fenton Thank you,Nick.
You're welcome. This video was so cool! And also listen to that engine power! It's so amazing. That is one old looking cockpit as well. Wonderful video.
In this Video it was still a DC-10 i would say.
The MD-10 has female altitude callouts and aural warnings like in 717 or C-17.
What was the reason for the g/a? Too high? Too fast?
What kind of vintage propeller airline is that sitting in front of a hanger as seen out the side cockpit window at 5:19? Nobody seems to know! Looks to be something like a Douglas C-54 Skymaster or DC-6.
do fedex still use the old dc10 cockpit. i heard it was modernised
YES IT WAS MODERNIZED
ironbassler747 don't use caps
I USE THEM IF I WANT TO.IF YOU DONT LIKE THEM SORRY.
Maurits Veen I like it when people use all caps, it lets me know I can skip over whatever it was they thought they had to contribute and move on to someone writing like an adult.
@@bf1255 Bless your heart!
Where did the flight originate from? My old man was Avionics with FedEx…..
The flight originated from the Fed Ex world hub in Memphis,TN.
How many boxes got crushed on this flight
Great old video. Thank you.
Awesome perspective. Good video.
If you end up on an island, just open all the packages.
Matt, it just dawned on me...how did you get the jumpseat? I thought FedEx had prohibited the use of the jumpseat following the attempted murder/hijacking of FedEx 705.
Wrong. FedEx allows flight crew(s) of any CASS approved air carrier with a reciprocal jumpseat agreement with FedEx to jumpseat. I have jumpseated on FedEX quite a bit.
Business is still allowed. Personal jumpseats weren't even discontinued after fly 705. It wasn't until the FAA put a stop to it after 9/11. Even then, Fred Smith was told that we could retrofit the aircraft bulkheads to be bulletproof and not allow j/s'ers in the cockpit and get the privilege back for personal use. He did that, but then they forbid it anyways after a couple years, probably 2003 or so.
dsimas1967 dude, you are wrong. You can use the FedEx jumpseat for leisure travel if you are a flight crewmember of a CASS participating airline which has a reciprocal JS agreement with FedEx. I have used FedEx to jumpseat for both work and vacation. Please don't comment if you don't know what you're talking about.
I stand corrected. I am a Fedex employee and j/s on the MD11 probably 50 times or so, prior to 9/11. So, I was honestly just pointing out some info on timelines, etc. I wasn't aware of the interline benefits. Sorry.
Dawn Simas You are correct, FedEx doesn't allow most of their employees to Jumpseat. Mechanics and pilots can, as well as a few others in certain circumstances. I fly for one of FedEx's Feeder Airlines. We have a reciprocal JS agreement with them so I've ridden the jumpseat quite often. It's a nice perk.
Thanks Michael.
so, they miss approach.... ? too low too low.... terrain terrain....
Mr. Stone, yes I am a pilot but please know my intent was to simply state my observations as I could see and hear on the video.
Why was the first landing aborted? Looked like perfect weather.
The plane was Not configured correctly , wrong flap setting ,landing gear, speed,ect so the aircraft alerted that it was to low thinking the plane was Not landing so telling the pilots to pull up,
They came in a little too fast for final flap selection - nice to see that there is no stress about going around - some companies get a bit upset when that happens, but they'd get even more upset if youd continue the landing "unstable".
What set off the GPWS?
When an airplane is prepared to land the gpws knows this because flaps are deployed and gear down. So at first it thinks the plane is landing, but when they decide to go around, the gear would be brought back up, and the gpws would activate since they aren’t in landing configuration.
there is one thing wrong with this dc10 i am not flying it love that air plane sure miss them as well
He still smashed it on during the 2nd attempt!
when pilots needed real skill and had to think.
Still do
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There was something wrong with that pilot 🧐🤔
5:07 whoop whoop pull up
Hope I never have to hear that for real.
@@crocodile1313you’ll hear it during simulator session, the ultra rare occasion you hear it outside of the internet
Beautiful vid. I wished he stayed on the centerline during t/o though.
It looks like its not on the center line due to camera angle
Dude they're in a heavy and 5 miles out without the flaps and gear down?? No way they would make it
DC-10 has a high approach speed. I have a feeling those old heads have some idea of what they’re supposed to be doing.
@@thejackbox Thank you.
What..ya had to go round? Must have been a new airport for you all.
That Airplane is a MD-10 not a DC-10 . DC-10 are tail dragger
Wilberto Noriega MD10 has a Glas Cockpit! Did you See the Video ??? It is a Original DC10, not a MD10.
@*IOETER* Sure it is a taildragger, overrotate and see what happens!
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whoop whoop
Fedex is all together
Plenty of surf spots...wilderness. shit house...ramey shorebreak...surfers beach...Survivor...(look for Kelly Slater on this monster slab).
I flew down there for the waves, just south a few miles, in Rincon.
MD-10 not DC-10
ironbassler747 it is now an MD-10 that is what i want to say
Maurits Veen no it's not. MD-10s have updated avionics as well as an MD-11 glass cockpit. This one here does obviously not.
look at gauges it's a DC-10 this was back before 9/11 besides MD-10s don't have Flight Engineers
and look at the title of the video
It was a DC-10. The MD-10 has female altitude callouts and aural warnings like in the 717 and C-17.
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