In my opinion, Subaru has always been behind in their hybrid technology. An excellent example of that is the Subaru Forester Hybrid which uses more fuel than the non hybrid model.
@@therightcari am surprised that Subaru didn't adopt Toyota's hybrid system (eCVT) for the 2024 model. it wasn't supposed to be a plug in but the furl savings were supposed to be much better than what you reported
What subaru gives you that few other hybrid does is symmetrical AWD. Many hybrid AWD are actually a FWD car with a small motor added to the rear. The main purpose of this small motor is to allow them to call it an AWD. It may or may not be effective in getting you out of snow or mud.
My neighbour has just bought this vehicle and your review makes me wonder is she did her research? I know people who have purchased new cars based on the color and when questioned about the technicalities, have almost no knowledge.
I would question the viability of a hybrid, even a mild hybrid, in an 'outdoor' or 'rugged' setting. Better would be something that runs on 91RON fuel AND a larger fuel tank for range if the use-case for this vehicle is a rural/semi-rural setting with the occasional dirt / muddy road.
I was considering this or the Subaru Forester, then I saw that the Road Tax charge here in the UK, it is double that of all its main competitors at over £1,000 per year! Presumably that’s because even the hybrid version has high emissions compared to the competitors. That and the smaller boots on both Subaru models mean it’s a pass from me.
Hi, i bought one of this Crosstrek hybrid and when i use this car in city the hybrid system charge the battery pack but when i arrives to my house, parking the car and the next day i start the vehicucle, i see the battery pack of the hybrid system is discharged, it is normal?
Yeah, it’s a great marketing exercise, that’s for sure. Soon Subaru will use Toyota tech for its hybrids, which will make them considerably more competitive.
just sold my '21 xv - loved it however the engine and electric motor where pretty useless. it does have off road chops that the other hybrids don't and that's its main difference.
In Europe you can buy only the hybrid it is very expensive , i live in Greece and have never seen one in the street, it costs 45 thousands euros and with such a small boot it's useless. It is very good off road but there are other options in this price
We only have the Toyota Cross Hybrid in the USA. Really not sure why all these car companies have decided to send the hybrids to Aus and Europe and not the US. Kia and Toyota are cleaning up in American market. All of these other companies have left a lot of sales on the table. Honda HR-V hybird especially looks appealing. Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid is one of the most boring cars on the market.
@@therightcar And its blows the doors off a Crosstrek while having almost 1.5 times better MPG too; Toyota doesn't want competition in their own segment so no useable battery pack for u Subaru.
Expensive, tiny boot, gutless, suspect CVT, disappointing efficiency given the additional complexity. It does offer excellent ground clearance and a cracking AWD system. It depends on your use case, but for me this is a miss.
@@z1az285It is a Subaru engineered Hybrid with Toyota parts. It lacks battery capacity and a sufficiently powerful electric motor to deliver acceptable efficiency. In effect it is a pointless offering.
@@GlowingTube thanks, No i get it when i saw the eBoxer badge. i was confused because the Subaru looked like the 2024 model which in the US was supposed to be released in 2024 (unlike the other trims released this year) with Toyota's hybrid system including a eCVT transmission (motors and gears) but not a plug in like the 2019-2023 US models. Incidentally the plug in models too employed a eCVT transmission borrowed from the prius prime but not the full toyota hybrid system which is one reason why it only had 17 miles full EV range (though it still had 90 mpge, i don't put much stock in that number because it depends on how one drives TBH). The upcoming US Forester hybrid in 2025 won't be a eBoxer either, rather full hybrid
@@therightcar Also, I believe you have the Subaru forester with a eBoxer offered in Australia. Again with minimal fuel savings. Yeah, makes zero sense. I had an opportunity to drive a 2021 crosstrek plug in in the US and @65 mph (highway speed) was getting 6.8 litres/ 100 km but that fell to 3 liters/ 100 km (average) @45-50 mph. So the plug in made sense for urban driving in full EV mode (or mixed mode when I charged the battery while driving) but not on the highway. My 2021 limited crosstrek actually gives me better MPG on the highway because the weight is lower.. 39-40 mpg
I m gonna buy a hybrid crosstreck in a few weeks...can t afford a rav4...I love hybrid cars even they are more expensive...a few thousand dollars more is okay for me....thanks for the review
Subaru has never been well known for fuel efficiency. The AWD imposes a weight penalty, which costs fuel, especially in city driving. It seems that if you do a lot of highway driving, and don't drive excessively over 100km/h, the ICE might be the better choice. But you won't be able to pat yourself on the back for "saving the environment". I wonder how the hybrid would perform with the diesel engine. I've never seen one in Canada (where I'm from), but heard it's still available. Diesel, not the hybrid. Although I've never seen a Subaru hybrid in the wild either.
I've just got one, I should take delivery of it by next week. After 19 years of dull,stiff, boring and ultrareliable Toyota hybrids I was craving for some driving pleasure and some very light off road capabilities. Given where I live ( very smooth coastal road and fire roads ) I look forward to transfer my hybrid driving skills on this one and maybe achieve a 17 km/liter . Either way this guy just crushes the car mercilessly for no reason, he skipped the legendary Subaru boxer engine, the 4x4 tech, the amazing safety features and the driving qualities. If you like to drive, like you don't even turn on the radio to focus on the job of driving enjoying every second of it, don't you ever buy a Toyota. Also, this guy brings a Yaris Cross as comparison...seriously man, I'm 183 cm and I have a family, I personally feel as comfortable as canned tuna in a Yaris cross. And the about the Corolla Cross I don't know about your market, but here in Europe it hasn't been much welcomed, China holds 42% of the global Corolla Cross sales, so go figure. That car is fugly.
For me, the decisive factor is the car's safety rating and its accident prevention features. However, this might vary depending on your location; in areas with a high frequency of traffic accidents, a Subaru would be my choice, but this may not hold true in Australia.
If it's only a MHEV w/ a 48v battery - not a proper HEV - then seems to me they should just kill the regular engine and get a little bit of that extra efficiency across all models. It's 2023 - time to drop full ICE engines w/o at least some electric assist.
Yeah it is a mild-hybrid system, but it attracts a full-hybrid price premium (in fact, Toyota charges less to step from ICE to hybrid with its model range, and it's PROPER hybrid).
@@therightcar Yeah, that makes absolutely no sense! IMO, if they're capable of building the MHEV, they should just kill the standard engine, make them all as MHEVs, and charge like an extra $1k for the car like most cars w/ an MHEV set-up. Charging an extra $3k for an MHEV system is kinda silly.
As Subaru’s website says itself, you get 24L extra boot space over the non hybrid. I’d pay for that and if I wanted an extra wheel, I’d just get a roof rack with a spare wheel holder. Also, the point of buying a car is to drive 10s of thousands of KMs.
you can't compare Toyota Corolla Cross and Hyundai Kona or Honda with the Subaru Crosstrek, the croosstrak is a real Symmetrical all weels drive while the other two you mentioned are basically city cars a little raised from the ground with a 2+2 which is not a real 4x4. It's normal that a REAL AWD costs more
no other engine choice in my country sadly fyi ride height wise for (mountain roads in europe not america or australia wilderness) all-terrain only the Toyota is in the same league as the crosstrek both the Kona and HR-V have 6.7" ride height while the subaru has 8.7 and the Toyota 8.1 very different car uses with such a difference, australia and the us are in a parallel universe vs europe I doubt subaru can sell a non hybrid car here anymore fyi the latest megane rs is almost 70k in france now, europe is crushing petrol engines and it's only going to get worse
Spot on review. If you mentioned the much smaller fuel tank, I missed it
I didn't, but thanks for bringing it up!
In my opinion, Subaru has always been behind in their hybrid technology. An excellent example of that is the Subaru Forester Hybrid which uses more fuel than the non hybrid model.
Good review indeed, you are spot on with the real-world efficiency - simply it's not good enough
Thanks! Yep, it needs to be in the 4L/100 range for it to make sense.
@@therightcari am surprised that Subaru didn't adopt Toyota's hybrid system (eCVT) for the 2024 model. it wasn't supposed to be a plug in but the furl savings were supposed to be much better than what you reported
I’m hoping to see a review of the 2025 Hybrid version. Hopefully the efficiency improves
If there is a significant change I’ll do a review.
What subaru gives you that few other hybrid does is symmetrical AWD. Many hybrid AWD are actually a FWD car with a small motor added to the rear. The main purpose of this small motor is to allow them to call it an AWD. It may or may not be effective in getting you out of snow or mud.
Fair point.
My neighbour has just bought this vehicle and your review makes me wonder is she did her research? I know people who have purchased new cars based on the color and when questioned about the technicalities, have almost no knowledge.
May be she is pretty confident with its all wheel drive and ground clearance and then chose the colour
I would question the viability of a hybrid, even a mild hybrid, in an 'outdoor' or 'rugged' setting. Better would be something that runs on 91RON fuel AND a larger fuel tank for range if the use-case for this vehicle is a rural/semi-rural setting with the occasional dirt / muddy road.
I was considering this or the Subaru Forester, then I saw that the Road Tax charge here in the UK, it is double that of all its main competitors at over £1,000 per year! Presumably that’s because even the hybrid version has high emissions compared to the competitors. That and the smaller boots on both Subaru models mean it’s a pass from me.
Good to know. Thanks for the comment. What are you going to choose instead?
@@therightcar Probably the RAV4 depending on delivery times.
Love this review so honest 😂I
Hi, i bought one of this Crosstrek hybrid and when i use this car in city the hybrid system charge the battery pack but when i arrives to my house, parking the car and the next day i start the vehicucle, i see the battery pack of the hybrid system is discharged, it is normal?
Better send in for check as it is very new and under warranty
Spare wheel thing is a joke. For a brand that has always pushed getting to those out o the way places. Needs a roof box with a space saver.
Have Subaru fixed the touch screen freezing problem yet
Hey matt, like the vid, the fuel conception, there’s not much difference between the two, what was the point of Subaru making a hybrid? 🤷♂️
Yeah, it’s a great marketing exercise, that’s for sure. Soon Subaru will use Toyota tech for its hybrids, which will make them considerably more competitive.
Thinking to buy corsstrek petrol or mazda cx3, need help which is better daily use
Great video! I was wondering if the American version will have a plug in hybrid or non plug in?
Looks like they have badged it for the people who want to be seen saving the planet.
just sold my '21 xv - loved it however the engine and electric motor where pretty useless. it does have off road chops that the other hybrids don't and that's its main difference.
Yep, I hope you saw my Crosstrek off-road short video. It surprised me with its capability. :D
If you have subtitles on the graphics that you display are behind them, best to consider the position of the graphics if users have subtitles on.
Thank you! Great feedback.
Subaru tried to turn a pigs ear into silk purse with a name change sorry they failed. Also no spare they can keep it.
Hahaha okay! Crosstrek was to bring it in line globally. XV worked really well.
In Europe you can buy only the hybrid it is very expensive , i live in Greece and have never seen one in the street, it costs 45 thousands euros and with such a small boot it's useless. It is very good off road but there are other options in this price
Corrolla cross has no spare tire!! Next...
Nor does the Subaru if you get the hybrid.
Lol same as the subaru cross hybrid. So what's your point 🤣🤣🤣
We only have the Toyota Cross Hybrid in the USA. Really not sure why all these car companies have decided to send the hybrids to Aus and Europe and not the US. Kia and Toyota are cleaning up in American market. All of these other companies have left a lot of sales on the table. Honda HR-V hybird especially looks appealing. Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid is one of the most boring cars on the market.
Ha! Corolla Cross looks boring, but is BRILLIANT.
@@therightcar And its blows the doors off a Crosstrek while having almost 1.5 times better MPG too; Toyota doesn't want competition in their own segment so no useable battery pack for u Subaru.
Expensive, tiny boot, gutless, suspect CVT, disappointing efficiency given the additional complexity. It does offer excellent ground clearance and a cracking AWD system. It depends on your use case, but for me this is a miss.
Some big points for and against. Like you say, user-chooser situation, this one.
doesn't it have Toyota's E-CVT system
@@z1az285It is a Subaru engineered Hybrid with Toyota parts. It lacks battery capacity and a sufficiently powerful electric motor to deliver acceptable efficiency. In effect it is a pointless offering.
@@GlowingTube thanks, No i get it when i saw the eBoxer badge. i was confused because the Subaru looked like the 2024 model which in the US was supposed to be released in 2024 (unlike the other trims released this year) with Toyota's hybrid system including a eCVT transmission (motors and gears) but not a plug in like the 2019-2023 US models. Incidentally the plug in models too employed a eCVT transmission borrowed from the prius prime but not the full toyota hybrid system which is one reason why it only had 17 miles full EV range (though it still had 90 mpge, i don't put much stock in that number because it depends on how one drives TBH). The upcoming US Forester hybrid in 2025 won't be a eBoxer either, rather full hybrid
@@therightcar Also, I believe you have the Subaru forester with a eBoxer offered in Australia. Again with minimal fuel savings. Yeah, makes zero sense. I had an opportunity to drive a 2021 crosstrek plug in in the US and @65 mph (highway speed) was getting 6.8 litres/ 100 km but that fell to 3 liters/ 100 km (average) @45-50 mph. So the plug in made sense for urban driving in full EV mode (or mixed mode when I charged the battery while driving) but not on the highway. My 2021 limited crosstrek actually gives me better MPG on the highway because the weight is lower.. 39-40 mpg
I m gonna buy a hybrid crosstreck in a few weeks...can t afford a rav4...I love hybrid cars even they are more expensive...a few thousand dollars more is okay for me....thanks for the review
You’re welcome. I hope it suits your needs.
None of the alternatives has the same off-road capabilities as the Subaru.
Power from electric engine is 10% of the fuel engine, thus savings in fuel are accodring to physics.
I agreed in Subaru fuel efficiency is really not fantastic
Disappointing, I’d say, considering the extra money you have to pay for the hybrid.
Subaru has never been well known for fuel efficiency. The AWD imposes a weight penalty, which costs fuel, especially in city driving. It seems that if you do a lot of highway driving, and don't drive excessively over 100km/h, the ICE might be the better choice. But you won't be able to pat yourself on the back for "saving the environment".
I wonder how the hybrid would perform with the diesel engine. I've never seen one in Canada (where I'm from), but heard it's still available. Diesel, not the hybrid. Although I've never seen a Subaru hybrid in the wild either.
I've just got one, I should take delivery of it by next week. After 19 years of dull,stiff, boring and ultrareliable Toyota hybrids I was craving for some driving pleasure and some very light off road capabilities. Given where I live ( very smooth coastal road and fire roads ) I look forward to transfer my hybrid driving skills on this one and maybe achieve a 17 km/liter .
Either way this guy just crushes the car mercilessly for no reason, he skipped the legendary Subaru boxer engine, the 4x4 tech, the amazing safety features and the driving qualities. If you like to drive, like you don't even turn on the radio to focus on the job of driving enjoying every second of it, don't you ever buy a Toyota. Also, this guy brings a Yaris Cross as comparison...seriously man, I'm 183 cm and I have a family, I personally feel as comfortable as canned tuna in a Yaris cross. And the about the Corolla Cross I don't know about your market, but here in Europe it hasn't been much welcomed, China holds 42% of the global Corolla Cross sales, so go figure. That car is fugly.
For me, the decisive factor is the car's safety rating and its accident prevention features. However, this might vary depending on your location; in areas with a high frequency of traffic accidents, a Subaru would be my choice, but this may not hold true in Australia.
If it's only a MHEV w/ a 48v battery - not a proper HEV - then seems to me they should just kill the regular engine and get a little bit of that extra efficiency across all models. It's 2023 - time to drop full ICE engines w/o at least some electric assist.
Yeah it is a mild-hybrid system, but it attracts a full-hybrid price premium (in fact, Toyota charges less to step from ICE to hybrid with its model range, and it's PROPER hybrid).
@@therightcar Yeah, that makes absolutely no sense! IMO, if they're capable of building the MHEV, they should just kill the standard engine, make them all as MHEVs, and charge like an extra $1k for the car like most cars w/ an MHEV set-up. Charging an extra $3k for an MHEV system is kinda silly.
As Subaru’s website says itself, you get 24L extra boot space over the non hybrid. I’d pay for that and if I wanted an extra wheel, I’d just get a roof rack with a spare wheel holder. Also, the point of buying a car is to drive 10s of thousands of KMs.
I don’t get your point - you get a slightly bigger boot but less practicality in real terms for an Aussie driver.
you can't compare Toyota Corolla Cross and Hyundai Kona or Honda with the Subaru Crosstrek, the croosstrak is a real Symmetrical all weels drive while the other two you mentioned are basically city cars a little raised from the ground with a 2+2 which is not a real 4x4. It's normal that a REAL AWD costs more
Okay calm down champ. I can compare whatever I want. I’m here to help buyers make the best choice, not to sell Subarus.
I am waiting to be mine subaru crosstrek mhiv
It's like 20% better MPG
no other engine choice in my country sadly fyi ride height wise for (mountain roads in europe not america or australia wilderness) all-terrain only the Toyota is in the same league as the crosstrek both the Kona and HR-V have 6.7" ride height while the subaru has 8.7 and the Toyota 8.1 very different car uses with such a difference, australia and the us are in a parallel universe vs europe I doubt subaru can sell a non hybrid car here anymore fyi the latest megane rs is almost 70k in france now, europe is crushing petrol engines and it's only going to get worse
3600 aussie dollars is 12 american freedom bucks