I'd like to see a re-do with real bearings in those wheels. The tires may last a lot longer if they are forced to go straight instead of flopping around. Bearings are so cheap nowadays, it wohld still be a valid experiment.
These are really only good for hand trucks and carts in light duty use. Your left wheel has a cracked weld which does happen with these on hand trucks used with heavier loads. Not surprised to see that failed bearing, either.
I take an old saw blade disc, cutoff the teeth, makes center hole and weld onto the bearing holder/spindle and rim. Keeps the center from breaking off or out of wheel.
Really would like more information on the rear set up I want to run big slicks do I need to change my axle or just order the rims and tires and bolt right on ?
It just depends on your axle set up. Most racing rims have a 3 hole pattern. If you have a three bolt hub they should bolt right up. If you don’t have a three bolt hub you can get them for pretty cheap on eBay or a kart site and they will clamp on a 1 or 1.25 inch axle. Spacing is always the biggest issue with these rims because they have deep barrels so you’ve got to make sure you have enough clearance between the frame and the hub so that it wont rub.
My experience is to avoid all tube based tires. Here in the Mojave desert they last me 2 just months, I always get leak at the valve stems on the 10in. 13in lasted around 2 years. HF have 10in wheel made of solid rubber for $10. Get the solid rubber it'll easily last you a couple of decades. For your application, solid foam tires might be better because they're lighter.
No I don’t think so. With the rim cracking and bearing falling apart it seems to be a quality issue. Not that it’s necessarily poor quality for what it’s designed for but that the quality was never meant withstand high speeds and the stresses of being on a kart.
fun video, lol arent those the wheel barrow wheels? i have the $8 small trailer tires, dryrotted as hell but holding up for few k miles at 60 mph and transporing 1k lbs at a time for 125 miles each trip
I’ve bought a bunch of old racing rims and tires from friends of friends that just had them laying around or where getting rid of their racing sets ups. The fronts I got from gopowersports or bmi karts, one of the two
If you greased the bearings, or replaced them with higher quality ones before running them, there would have been less wear and tear (due to less resistance) on the tires and the rims. It's possible the rims wouldn't crack and the tires might last a bit longer. They're only as good as their weakest part.
I’ve had other wheels last for years on this frame and without any issues. It will probably reduce the life some but I don’t think that was the problem here.
Next time get the 10 dollar wheels. Also it says right next to the price what those wheels are for. Why would someone who's wanna cheap out on wheels buy wheels rated for light duty for a fast go kart unless he is an idiot or trying to bash a specific company. I find it curious that someone who was just wondering would begin filming as if he already knew the answer to how question before making the video. Then you were riding off road, grass and gravel, but still decided that those wheels were the better choice over the 5 dollar general purpose wheels. C'mon man.
It says specifically in the video that it was made to see how long these wheels last on a go kart with the expectation that they probably wouldn’t last considering the price and application it is meant for. I see people all the time posting that they are using or going to buy some of these wheels for their karts on the go kart groups which I had always assumed was dangerous and not a good idea. So I tested it out with the idea that they probably wouldn’t last but with the Hope that maybe it would surprise me. It seems you missed the point or didn’t pay attention.
@@jwsbackyard6413 yeah, but, bro, not even a cheapie would have bought those ones. I'm about to get busy with the ten inch black rims. Racing hard on concrete and hopefully the grass. I'll admit, these are weird in that when I tighten the nuts to hold the wheel into my homemade spindle, 5/8 threaded rod, the wheel won't spin freely and tightens the nut further. I'm not sure if I'm to leave some air between the nut and bearing or clamp em tight. Do once I get my rear end back in (rear end lol) I'm gonna kill myself with double nuts holding the wheels on. No lucktite, no nylon stop nuts or whatever, because this cheapie just got finished buying 2 more nuts to do this..sigh! N ha! Anyway, I used to use hf wheels for diy scooters back n the day and had no problems. My thing is, for someone who spends money on parts, you would think a lil bit and consider buying all purpose cheap wheels to test because you know and knew darn well you'd never consider using wheels labeled for light duty on a good kart. It's like you've tried to see if a shirt make of grass would hold up well in a tornado lol.
@@jwsbackyard6413 they don't use those. I can show you tons of videos of wheels that are not those. My search was "ground force drifter bigger wheels" None of them use those. "4"8v power wheels" or "48v ground force" no one uses those there either, at least my results hasn't shown them. I, myself, even looked at them and was like, heck no. It says light duty. If you weren't trying to bash, then this is a pointless dummy video. Seriously. Click on a video of the guy trying to see hold well a grass shirt hold up in tomato weather as he considers it as an alternative to name brand
@@Mike_Greene sounds like you are putting pressure on the bearing. It’s a pretty common problem. That’s why most karts use a nut with a nylon insert so that you can leave a little clearance between the nut and the bearing without the nut spinning off. I’ve used the two nut method before and it worked fine for me. I’ve seen many people post about using these wheels on their karts in the groups so this was showing whether it was safe or not.
@@jwsbackyard6413 got. was right ready to test er out. Thanks for the help. That's why I clicked . I wanted to see how you mounted them and what you're mounted them onto.
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Why did I enjoy this video so much? Stayed till the end.
same
I'd like to see a re-do with real bearings in those wheels. The tires may last a lot longer if they are forced to go straight instead of flopping around. Bearings are so cheap nowadays, it wohld still be a valid experiment.
These are really only good for hand trucks and carts in light duty use. Your left wheel has a cracked weld which does happen with these on hand trucks used with heavier loads. Not surprised to see that failed bearing, either.
THANK YOU FOR THE TEST AND SHARING
I take an old saw blade disc, cutoff the teeth, makes center hole and weld onto the bearing holder/spindle and rim.
Keeps the center from breaking off or out of wheel.
Thank you for destructive testing ! Scrap the tires I just had in mind for our project kart .
Same 😂💀
I see you have about 25% canter in the frame ? the front tires would ware like that .for a normal yard cart the tires would work just fine .
Really would like more information on the rear set up I want to run big slicks do I need to change my axle or just order the rims and tires and bolt right on ?
It just depends on your axle set up. Most racing rims have a 3 hole pattern. If you have a three bolt hub they should bolt right up. If you don’t have a three bolt hub you can get them for pretty cheap on eBay or a kart site and they will clamp on a 1 or 1.25 inch axle. Spacing is always the biggest issue with these rims because they have deep barrels so you’ve got to make sure you have enough clearance between the frame and the hub so that it wont rub.
My experience is to avoid all tube based tires. Here in the Mojave desert they last me 2 just months, I always get leak at the valve stems on the 10in. 13in lasted around 2 years. HF have 10in wheel made of solid rubber for $10. Get the solid rubber it'll easily last you a couple of decades. For your application, solid foam tires might be better because they're lighter.
Do you think they would hold up better if the toe adjustment wasn't so turned in just on normal cart steering?
No I don’t think so. With the rim cracking and bearing falling apart it seems to be a quality issue. Not that it’s necessarily poor quality for what it’s designed for but that the quality was never meant withstand high speeds and the stresses of being on a kart.
the fact i was planning on buying these for years for a go kart xD
I got a couple and they lasted about 1 minute, then I re welded the rim, then it broke again, it just doesn’t work well
Looks like fun
Awesome!!
Cheap cheap cheap cheap!!!! But yes we kinda knew that going in
fun video, lol
arent those the wheel barrow wheels?
i have the $8 small trailer tires, dryrotted as hell but holding up for few k miles at 60 mph and transporing 1k lbs at a time for 125 miles each trip
Yeah the are for light duty stuff like hand trucks etc. I’ve just seen a lot of people in the kart groups use these on karts.
Are they also at harbor freight?
Where do you find those used racing wheels for so cheap??
I’ve bought a bunch of old racing rims and tires from friends of friends that just had them laying around or where getting rid of their racing sets ups. The fronts I got from gopowersports or bmi karts, one of the two
I just took a pair off my manco and I bought the 10 dollar pair of these same ones on Amazon. The bearing and wheel fell apart in 2 weeks 😂
You didn't grease them. They aren't really a sealed bearing. That's why they have grease zerk fittings
Need to oil the bearings regularly on these - pneumatic oil works good.
Ever tried inserting superior quality bearings?
I had though about that but the rim itself cracked so decided it wasn’t going to work
If you greased the bearings, or replaced them with higher quality ones before running them, there would have been less wear and tear (due to less resistance) on the tires and the rims. It's possible the rims wouldn't crack and the tires might last a bit longer. They're only as good as their weakest part.
What are the things called that he put on before he put the wheel on?
It’s a spacer
@@jwsbackyard6413 thank you
Well this taught me not to cheap out on the wheels
I got the 30 dollar ones and the rim shattered immediately
My son wore his out in a week on asphalt
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Crack core
Better front alignment would wear better
Yeah they not built for that i had a 36mph gokart and they hate fast turn snap 3 of them
I run cheap wheels on my stuff
Same lol
@@daneabdalla1954they do fine?
Nice try!
They wouldn't wear near as bad if your mounts weren't so pigeon toed.
I’ve had other wheels last for years on this frame and without any issues. It will probably reduce the life some but I don’t think that was the problem here.
You can get sealed roller bearings to fit those wheels from any bearing outlet
The welds actually broke also. I didn’t notice it until after but you can see it in the video.
Next time get the 10 dollar wheels. Also it says right next to the price what those wheels are for. Why would someone who's wanna cheap out on wheels buy wheels rated for light duty for a fast go kart unless he is an idiot or trying to bash a specific company. I find it curious that someone who was just wondering would begin filming as if he already knew the answer to how question before making the video. Then you were riding off road, grass and gravel, but still decided that those wheels were the better choice over the 5 dollar general purpose wheels. C'mon man.
It says specifically in the video that it was made to see how long these wheels last on a go kart with the expectation that they probably wouldn’t last considering the price and application it is meant for. I see people all the time posting that they are using or going to buy some of these wheels for their karts on the go kart groups which I had always assumed was dangerous and not a good idea. So I tested it out with the idea that they probably wouldn’t last but with the Hope that maybe it would surprise me. It seems you missed the point or didn’t pay attention.
@@jwsbackyard6413 yeah, but, bro, not even a cheapie would have bought those ones. I'm about to get busy with the ten inch black rims. Racing hard on concrete and hopefully the grass. I'll admit, these are weird in that when I tighten the nuts to hold the wheel into my homemade spindle, 5/8 threaded rod, the wheel won't spin freely and tightens the nut further.
I'm not sure if I'm to leave some air between the nut and bearing or clamp em tight. Do once I get my rear end back in (rear end lol) I'm gonna kill myself with double nuts holding the wheels on. No lucktite, no nylon stop nuts or whatever, because this cheapie just got finished buying 2 more nuts to do this..sigh! N ha! Anyway, I used to use hf wheels for diy scooters back n the day and had no problems.
My thing is, for someone who spends money on parts, you would think a lil bit and consider buying all purpose cheap wheels to test because you know and knew darn well you'd never consider using wheels labeled for light duty on a good kart. It's like you've tried to see if a shirt make of grass would hold up well in a tornado lol.
@@jwsbackyard6413 they don't use those. I can show you tons of videos of wheels that are not those. My search was "ground force drifter bigger wheels" None of them use those. "4"8v power wheels" or "48v ground force" no one uses those there either, at least my results hasn't shown them. I, myself, even looked at them and was like, heck no. It says light duty.
If you weren't trying to bash, then this is a pointless dummy video. Seriously. Click on a video of the guy trying to see hold well a grass shirt hold up in tomato weather as he considers it as an alternative to name brand
@@Mike_Greene sounds like you are putting pressure on the bearing. It’s a pretty common problem. That’s why most karts use a nut with a nylon insert so that you can leave a little clearance between the nut and the bearing without the nut spinning off. I’ve used the two nut method before and it worked fine for me. I’ve seen many people post about using these wheels on their karts in the groups so this was showing whether it was safe or not.
@@jwsbackyard6413 got. was right ready to test er out. Thanks for the help. That's why I clicked . I wanted to see how you mounted them and what you're mounted them onto.
maybe for under a long gate carry the load.