I always tell people to think of 'privacy tones' as 'filters' that are used to 'filter other radio conversations out' - but they can still all hear you because FRS and GMRS are 'public radio'!
@@djk8541 I was trying to make sense of why I would possibly use one, but you made a very good point. Although there are very few people near me that use GMRS. I don't know if I should be thankful for that or disappointed.
Thank you for the clarification. I knew they weren't "private", but didn't pay attention to how they actually functioned. Your videos always make me smile (or snort my coffee!). Two thumbs up!
I just gotta say, I love your videos! Your channel has been my go-to ever since I got into gmrs. You're very clear and concise and I learn a lot from you. Also....for the algorhythm.
Just like his de-boxing a radio is pretty much an unboxing. At least we don't have to endure cutting of boxes open and noisy plastic wrappin so its sorta different. Its subtle, sorta an inside joke same as the "no intro"
I always laugh my a## off watching your videos on the "love" you demonstrate to the UV-5R and the arrogant HAM operators! I am active on CB (SideWinder138), SSB, GMRS (Licensed), FRS (my job) as well as MURS (not alot). I love technology! And to know that I have the ability to communicate with others when I'm out in my Jeep is what makes life so much fun! Life is way too short!! Keep up the good work my friend!!
I knew this was the case even before getting a few Shmotorolas but couldnt explain it as thoroughly and detailed with the finesse of an esteemed professional as yours truly...my favorite...RUclips producer...
"Tone squelch" sounds like the most accurate description for these systems to me. I use it, mainly to cut outside chatter and yeah don't give a shit if everyone else wants to know my hiking/camping itinerary lol. Great channel.
Just got a Baofeng UV-82 and I've learned a LOT of information in watching some of your videos these past week. Good thing as the user's manual is very much lacking understandable detail! Thanks for putting these out.
This video is sooooooo helpful!! I have never heard it explained before and understood it. Today it all clicked. Thank you so much sir for taking the time out of your day to help me, I really appreciate it.
Hey Randy, great channel and very informative content. Thought you might find this interesting. I just bought a pair of Motorola T800 FRS/GMRS radios here in Canada. In the manual, they have stopped calling them "Privacy Codes" and are now calling them "Interference Eliminator Codes"
Sounds like Canada requires Truth in Advertising, what a concept. I'm imagining an America where corporations couldn't lie threw their teeth, wait I'm dreaming again. Got to stop doing that.
Excellent explanation. I've tried to explain this to people. I end up telling them not to bother with codes and either turn them off or set to zero. Otherwise it just complicates communication.
Another great informational video . I know you touched bases on the tones before, But this video was dedicated to them and you broke it down into pieces So even I could understand it. Great job! with me some point
Damn, I like your style of explanation. Total noob here, I was wondering what this "privacy code" does, now I do know and have the proper mental model, and you have a new subscriber.
This is exactly the video I have been looking for. When our team goes canyoneering and we need clear communication, this is how we will go about it. I'm sick of getting so much interference instead of just being able to talk with my team. Thank you. Do you have a video on how to set this up? Cheers
DCS encoding is crucial to our radio communications on the jobsite. We are licensed to use itinerant color dot frequencies for our business. We purchased Blowfung model 1909 radios and use DCS on all four of our licensed frequencies not for privacy or security but to filter out unwanted radio traffic. RFI and EMI.
Great videos, Ive watched several, very helpful! I had no idea what GMRS was a few days ago. I stumbled across your videos wile looking up CB topics! You actually keep my attention. Thanks!
Thank you for putting this out there!! There are several elementary schools in my area that use these radios during dismissal where school staff use them to direct students to their busses or parents, and most often-times use students last names when calling for them to come out for their rides. Why school boards purchase these unsecured radios is beyond me ( more than likely for budget reasons).
I had this same concern at my local school and brought it up to them. They now make phone calls to call out private information and use the radio as general communication where privacy isn't a concern
i have to agree with you on this one100% Mr Rubi. Unless your signal is encrypted (like police and other authorized public agencies encrypt their transmissions) everything you say can be heard by every one else. Fact not fiction.
Three radios: A1 (has CTCSS set), A2 (has same CTCSS set), B1 (no CTCSS set). If B1 transmits while either A1 or A2 is talking, B1 will interfere with the transmission and be heard by the A1 or A2 that is listening. This is because the tone opened up the squelch on A1/A2 so the radio can now hear anyone transmitting on that frequency.
Exactly - PRIVACY = NUISANCE blocker & the world scanning within reception area can hear you. It would have been a good option for CB back in the 80s for the 40 channel rigs just to stop keyers.
I like CTSS. When using a repeater and have it on, it will likely keep kids playing from keying it up. Some of my radios have a weird issue where they have a trailing squelch for a few seconds after someone stops transmitting. If I enable the CTCSS tone, that issue goes away. They are great to have if you understand that they don't provide privacy.
I was about to ask you about that because I have 3 radio , I was thinking I was doing something wrong but you answer everthing about that in this videos so thank you once againg till next time .
Yeah, privacy tone are kind of like using noise canceling headphones for a telephone conversation in a library full of people. Everyone that's not also wearing headphones hears everything you say, but you can't hear them politely asking you to shut up.
Your passion to the world class UV-5R is amazing! I am jealous of your dedication to the Sad-Hams on You Tube! I will NOW always look for the posted comments!
Well, damn. I actually learned something i didnt know. I had always thought it was a sub channel that rx/tx on as a base start point for that channel. This makes more sense. Thanks for the edumacation.
Great video as always. I knew tones are not private, but today I noticed on my Radiodditty DB-20G that I was still picking up a 725 repeater on Ch22 Simplex mode while we were using tones paired with a couple Midland handhelds with same tones. The repeater uses 131.8 which we weren’t using but I would only pick up on my DB-20 since it was 35 miles from my location. Not sure if I have something set up incorrectly.
They should call them do not disturb tones, but it's like the do not disturb sign you put on your motel room door but don't know the guy in the room next door has his ear against the wall listening.
Gosh I didn’t know that growing up playing with walky talkies , what a bunch of crap they sell you . Thanks for making this video! Atleast our government does not lie like that and I can keep some trust in the world
Common curtesy going back years is to press the monitor button to check for traffic on the channel when using PL tones. They were mainly designed so you didn’t have listen to chatter from other users on commercial radios back in the day. If I remember right PL tones were developed by Motorola back in the 50s. If used as intended they work well.
or u can just work your way up channel-to-channel hollering a message into the radio or something and wait a little to check if someone is in the frequency untill u find an empty one. but dont be anoying with it just say something like hello is someone on XYZ frequency? Im talking about just like toy type 22channel blubblepack radios or bayophangues with frs in them.
I love your videos, your delivery is epic!! However, especially on the Baofeng, there is T-CTCSS and R-CTCSS. I have tested your claim. If others don’t have the right tone combination they will not be able to hear your transmissions. Your claim is partially correct. Anyway, I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for making great entertaining content and have a great day!!
Another great "class," Randy. Your two radios sure like one another. QUESTION: At one point on another of your videos where you 'splain and review the Retevis RT97 repeater, you mention the word "tones" again.....without explanation. what's up with that?? Still a newby, but my SHTF team does have four of your favored Baofengs....... :)
Hi, im new here but I love your content. I have a stupid question thats about the codes. Do the Dcs or ctcss codes on the GMRS radio translate to the cheep FRS radios sub/privacy codes/ch???
Many years ago I was buying something at Radio Shack and the sales man was try to sell an HT set to a person and was telling them about the Privacy codes as if no one could hear a conversation once they were set. I forget if i had a chance to tell the person how privacy tones actually work but I think I did.
Its basically a dark room with a string and a can and toes getting stepped on all over the place. And those with out a string and can, have night vision and can hear all the conversations, LOL.
That manufacturer makes the best radio equipment on the planet, along with that manufacturer that rhymes with "farris" They are used by local agencies all the way up to federal agencies. Do you want someone you love that needs critical medical attention depending on an EMS or Paramedic agency using a Baofeng? Come on now. Randy's videos are fun and he is a nice guy but this Motorola bashing is just stupid.
Dear Mister Baofeng, thank you for inventing the UV5R. If I'm understanding this correctly, CTCS tones don't guarantee privacy past 20 miles unless I'm on a GMRS repeater subchannel?
No Roger beep ? Guess I'm off to use my carrier pidgin.. Pro Tip .. this has a useful use . And is used to minimise interference . But your point is valid privacy tones are not private per say
CTCSS tones ar usefull! :) if you have some distant radio breaking you squelch, turn it on, (tell your buddys wat to set it for or it goes dead silent :P ) I usually set my TX tone to 88.5 and turn on or off RX ctcss so I can hear everything, when I get annoyed by some interference I will turn on RX ctcss (88.5) and since all my other radios transmit 88.5 by default it wil just continue to work :) but yes.. PL (Private Line) the name is BS,.. ps, CTCSS stands for "continues tone coded squelch system" nothing private about that ;-)
In my understanding, if two persons use a tone and a third person transmits in the same channel and *at the same time* with any of the other two persons, he should always be heard from the receiver. It doesn't matter if he doesn't use a tone or uses another tone. As the receiver detects the tone and as both signals share the same band, they should be added.
Great explanation. Calling it CTCSS a *NUISANCE FILTER* is correct. Like what you said, CTCSS could be still be used to prevent those people with bad intentions from disrupting comms like that of an emergency response team. Which could endanger the team or block out the comm itself. It is ok to listen, but do stupid things particularly during an emergency or a special event is unethical and pure evil. As a member of one such emergency response group, I have had experiences like that. Once, it was before a terrible typhoon hit, our city was on high alert and was preparing for it, some a-hole thought it would be funny to key in his/her radio on the frequency used by the city. The frequency was rendered useless the whole night because of that. In another case, it was a parade, two started chit-chatting on the same frquency used by the city which unfortunately does not use a CTCSS. I think, those chatting were using CTCSS. Because they did not cease when we told them to change frequency (a negative effect of knowing how to use CTCSS). Luckily, we (those involved in the parade) still got through to each other but it was difficult and a lot of miscommunication happened. i am sure it will still happen in the future. That is why I am telling our group to use CTCSS on our radio to minimize or prevent that partucularly during emergency operations. With regards to the tone scan, not everyone knows about tone scan. Well, except those with background in communications. Not all radio has that function. I think UV-5R doesn't. (correct me if I am wrong)
They should be referred to as ‘filter tones or codes’ for the benefit of laymen… more in line with the definition of squelch, it literally filters out other radios not on that tone, and wouldn’t allow manufacturers to say “300 channels available” or whatever
Thanks for sharing this info. What we need here in southeast Alabama and I am licensed to use the radio . We need a GMRS repeater in a couple of places . So that any one who can afford the license and a radio can contact each other in case of an emergency during storm season as so forth. Just an idea. As mentioned I like your info. Thanks NotaRubicon
I'm just curious to know if you ever have occasion to use ctss or dcs.... or whatever their called. In the old days when id talk to my friends in a road caravan we'd many times turn up the cb squelch to help eliminate noise from more distant cb users on the same channel - although we COULD hear them weakly if we were actively chatting. I'm thinking ctss or dcs, or what ever their called, act simularly to high squelch settings except for the encoding. From what I understand, ctss/dcs only break open the squelch of the other coded radio such that if there is another signal on your opened channel you'll hear him as well as your own contact. What I'm saying is a bit contrary to what you explained.... but I'm just trying to get this "privacy" tone thing straight in my head. I hope that was less than 15 paragraphs... :)
is to block out the anoying guy keying up over your convos in family use The guy yelling to move a cone or doing god knows what up on some cell tower blowing up your walkie or yelling about flying some speaker cabinets over a stage and cussin on there pecking you being a stinky old karen disrespecting you.
I have a question for you. I have a 16 Channel Tekk NT-90 5 Watt radio the has been preprogrammed by the Company selling the item. The two Tekk radios communicate with each other perfectly. A friend has a Baofeng UV-5R. He can program the frequency corresponding to my Channel 1 and I can hear him fine on my Tekk. However, I cannot transmit to his radio. Is this due to preprogrammed privacy codes on my radio? If so, is there a way to remove these codes so the two radios can communicate with each other or is there something going on? Thanks,
Good morning Nota. Got my new KG 905g radios. I’m setting ctcss codes. What is the difference between RX-DTC and TX-DTC:? Do they perform different functions? Thanks again. Randy S
I’ll try again. Do RX DTC CTCSS codes keep my transmissions from being heard. And do TX DTC CTCSS codes keep my radio from hearing others. Or vice versa. In other words I set both RX-DTC and TX-DTC codes on my kg 905g. Do they perform different functions? If I’m not making sense, it’s ok to say so.👍 Thanks again. Keep the rubber on the trail. Randy S. aka Rando S
@@rando1818 NO tones or codes keep you from being heard by others. No matter what you set, others can ALWAYS hear you. I can think of very few situations if any where it would make any sense for a normal user to not set the RX and TX tones the same. Again, there is NO setting on GMRS or FRS radios that can prevent others from hearing YOU, you can only filter out what YOU hear from other people. Period.
There is only one king of GMRS and FRS and that is not a Rubicon, Just watching RUclips listening to this man who belongs to a Laurel Canyon emergency group I guess they’re a bunch of neighbors interfering outside the canyon. He is explaining CTCSS tones, Because of all the gardeners and construction crews, and everybody else using FRS illegally transmitting illegals signals into their canyon, omg. lol 😂 I gave him kudos, thank you for all your knowledge and teaching me all about GMRS.
Seems like the privacy tones just enables hogging a channel. So any 'channel' above 22 on my Midland handheld is one of these tone channels? I wish I could disable the channels above 22 from the scan function.
Thanks for your service to the real people of this world. I wish there was a 'Love' button right beside the 'Like' button on YT, because I love your channel, along with all the sarcasm. Join this man's cause people!
Oh I just went through it trying to get my GM-30 to get on the same so called privacy tones as my smolarota FRS. Radios. I had to get my whisper scanner out and key up to find out that only a few tones were CTSS and in the higher numbers were DCS. The chart did me no good 😂 WRQB218.
Okay, but, for bubble-pack radios only, there is a special Sub-Code that Channels 35 mile range, along with great audio Tone in complete Privacy, right?
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Don't know what you are on, but the radio service are not 50 years old and for sure not 100 years old!
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that Baofeng has been making GMRS radios for over 100 years. You should check your facts.
As a professional historian of ham radio for the last 2 weeks, I concur with nota
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Donald did you straighten slinkeys as a kid.
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Exactly why encrypted smoke signals are still my go-to comms method.
How do you do that?
I want to learn that too! I just learned on the other video that the CCP were listening to my baaofeng
Your intros are the best. Love that Look in The Cup before taking a sip! These little things don’t go unappreciated.
The coffee cup is old and boring and was never funny in the first place.
My friend, I admire your admiration of that little radio! Don’t ever change!
I always tell people to think of 'privacy tones' as 'filters' that are used to 'filter other radio conversations out' - but they can still all hear you because FRS and GMRS are 'public radio'!
They can hear you but, whiteout the privacy tone cannot interfere or join the conversation. It’s a nice “firewall”.
yep, gotta use them or some kid nearby always starts screeching at us 🤣
That's exactly what they are. Filters.
@@djk8541 I was trying to make sense of why I would possibly use one, but you made a very good point. Although there are very few people near me that use GMRS. I don't know if I should be thankful for that or disappointed.
Noo don't tell them, I like listening!
CTCSS is Continuous Tone Coded Squelch System. Interesting that it's telling you exactly what it is and what it does.
Thank you for the clarification. I knew they weren't "private", but didn't pay attention to how they actually functioned. Your videos always make me smile (or snort my coffee!). Two thumbs up!
WHAT!! tell me, mangodperson, how to do a line of my morning coffee!!
I just gotta say, I love your videos! Your channel has been my go-to ever since I got into gmrs. You're very clear and concise and I learn a lot from you. Also....for the algorhythm.
A "Nuisance Filter". Hit the nail on the head. That's a great description.
It took me this long to realize your non-intro is your intro. Always clever. Love all your radio talks
Just like his de-boxing a radio is pretty much an unboxing. At least we don't have to endure cutting of boxes open and noisy plastic wrappin so its sorta different. Its subtle, sorta an inside joke same as the "no intro"
I always laugh my a## off watching your videos on the "love" you demonstrate to the UV-5R and the arrogant HAM operators! I am active on CB (SideWinder138), SSB, GMRS (Licensed), FRS (my job) as well as MURS (not alot). I love technology! And to know that I have the ability to communicate with others when I'm out in my Jeep is what makes life so much fun! Life is way too short!! Keep up the good work my friend!!
I knew this was the case even before getting a few Shmotorolas but couldnt explain it as thoroughly and detailed with the finesse of an esteemed professional as yours truly...my favorite...RUclips producer...
"Tone squelch" sounds like the most accurate description for these systems to me. I use it, mainly to cut outside chatter and yeah don't give a shit if everyone else wants to know my hiking/camping itinerary lol. Great channel.
Just got a Baofeng UV-82 and I've learned a LOT of information in watching some of your videos these past week. Good thing as the user's manual is very much lacking understandable detail! Thanks for putting these out.
This video is sooooooo helpful!! I have never heard it explained before and understood it. Today it all clicked. Thank you so much sir for taking the time out of your day to help me, I really appreciate it.
Hey Randy, great channel and very informative content. Thought you might find this interesting. I just bought a pair of Motorola T800 FRS/GMRS radios here in Canada. In the manual, they have stopped calling them "Privacy Codes" and are now calling them "Interference Eliminator Codes"
Sounds like Canada requires Truth in Advertising, what a concept. I'm imagining an America where corporations couldn't lie threw their teeth, wait I'm dreaming again. Got to stop doing that.
Nothing heard. I guess he didn't find it interesting.
Excellent explanation. I've tried to explain this to people. I end up telling them not to bother with codes and either turn them off or set to zero. Otherwise it just complicates communication.
Another great informational video .
I know you touched bases on the tones before, But this video was dedicated to them and you broke it down into pieces So even I could understand it. Great job! with me some point
I am so entertained and appreciate your honesty and humor.... well done KI5CY
The sense of humour that Notarubicon shows is 'almost' British in it's execution ;-)
Exactly what i thought, Like good ol Monty Python is what came to mind😂
Damn, I like your style of explanation. Total noob here, I was wondering what this "privacy code" does, now I do know and have the proper mental model, and you have a new subscriber.
If you got anything wrong? Yeah, right, when does that ever happen, lol. Thanks for the great video Randy.
It's good that Baofeng point out they are not private or encrypted. Certainly in the manual to certain models anyway.
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@notarubicon I love it. The simplicity of this video is priceless and I tell people the same thing all the time.
This is exactly the video I have been looking for. When our team goes canyoneering and we need clear communication, this is how we will go about it. I'm sick of getting so much interference instead of just being able to talk with my team. Thank you. Do you have a video on how to set this up? Cheers
Thank you Randy! You're the man for explaining this!!! If you're ever in the 808 state... we're on channel 16 or 19. Mahalo. Btw... no stupid codes.
I learn something new with every one of your videos 👍
Okay, explains why most folks don't respond to me. It was freaking me out. Friggin "privacy tones". Quite the nut banger.
Thank you for the explanation!!! Love your videos and humour. Greetings from Yellowknife 🇨🇦.
DCS encoding is crucial to our radio communications on the jobsite. We are licensed to use itinerant color dot frequencies for our business. We purchased Blowfung model 1909 radios and use DCS on all four of our licensed frequencies not for privacy or security but to filter out unwanted radio traffic. RFI and EMI.
Great videos, Ive watched several, very helpful! I had no idea what GMRS was a few days ago.
I stumbled across your videos wile looking up CB topics! You actually keep my attention. Thanks!
I love how you call out the silly factions.
Thank you for putting this out there!! There are several elementary schools in my area that use these radios during dismissal where school staff use them to direct students to their busses or parents, and most often-times use students last names when calling for them to come out for their rides. Why school boards purchase these unsecured radios is beyond me ( more than likely for budget reasons).
I had this same concern at my local school and brought it up to them. They now make phone calls to call out private information and use the radio as general communication where privacy isn't a concern
i have to agree with you on this one100% Mr Rubi. Unless your signal is encrypted (like police and other authorized public agencies encrypt their transmissions) everything you say can be heard by every one else. Fact not fiction.
Three radios: A1 (has CTCSS set), A2 (has same CTCSS set), B1 (no CTCSS set). If B1 transmits while either A1 or A2 is talking, B1 will interfere with the transmission and be heard by the A1 or A2 that is listening. This is because the tone opened up the squelch on A1/A2 so the radio can now hear anyone transmitting on that frequency.
Thanks for the information from a “newbie” GMRS user! Very informative, much appreciated..
I use the codes to thrill the Sad Hams. And turn on the Roger beep. 🤣🤣 so I don't hear Sad Hams.
Roger beep!
Exactly - PRIVACY = NUISANCE blocker & the world scanning within reception area can hear you. It would have been a good option for CB back in the 80s for the 40 channel rigs just to stop keyers.
OMG ...love this guy. Finally a no bs channel
Thanks for sharing. I learn a lot from you, and I like your humor. Keep it up!
I like CTSS. When using a repeater and have it on, it will likely keep kids playing from keying it up. Some of my radios have a weird issue where they have a trailing squelch for a few seconds after someone stops transmitting. If I enable the CTCSS tone, that issue goes away. They are great to have if you understand that they don't provide privacy.
this is why we yodle in the Rockys ????tyvm..good info nice work
Been marathon-watching your vids. You’ve been a huge help 👍
I swallered my chew. Ya killin me. I cant eat or drink when i watch your vids. I almost choked on my spam hamwhich
Thank you...for the In-Service! Well-done!
I was about to ask you about that because I have 3 radio , I was thinking I was doing something wrong but you answer everthing about that in this videos so thank you once againg till next time .
Yeah, privacy tone are kind of like using noise canceling headphones for a telephone conversation in a library full of people. Everyone that's not also wearing headphones hears everything you say, but you can't hear them politely asking you to shut up.
Your passion to the world class UV-5R is amazing! I am jealous of your dedication to the Sad-Hams on You Tube! I will NOW always look for the posted comments!
Another 💎 video, keep'em going loud n clear! :).
The best amateur radio channel on RUclips. Bar none.
Schlub approved🤣 .... honestly great job defining the secrets of the dams / ctcss “private line” mystery....👍✌️
Well, damn. I actually learned something i didnt know. I had always thought it was a sub channel that rx/tx on as a base start point for that channel. This makes more sense. Thanks for the edumacation.
Great video as always. I knew tones are not private, but today I noticed on my Radiodditty DB-20G that I was still picking up a 725 repeater on Ch22 Simplex mode while we were using tones paired with a couple Midland handhelds with same tones. The repeater uses 131.8 which we weren’t using but I would only pick up on my DB-20 since it was 35 miles from my location. Not sure if I have something set up incorrectly.
They should call them do not disturb tones, but it's like the do not disturb sign you put on your motel room door but don't know the guy in the room next door has his ear against the wall listening.
It’s the Cone of Silence
Gosh I didn’t know that growing up playing with walky talkies , what a bunch of crap they sell you . Thanks for making this video! Atleast our government does not lie like that and I can keep some trust in the world
I love how he strokes the UV5R lovingly every time hahaha
Is there a list of privacy tones we can program using Chirp to my Baofeng UV-5R? Thanks for your videos. Liked and Sub'd.
what a great video. I just tried it on my radios and he is spot on. Thank YOU
Common curtesy going back years is to press the monitor button to check for traffic on the channel when using PL tones. They were mainly designed so you didn’t have listen to chatter from other users on commercial radios back in the day. If I remember right PL tones were developed by Motorola back in the 50s. If used as intended they work well.
EXACTLY! Thank you!
or u can just work your way up channel-to-channel hollering a message into the radio or something and wait a little to check if someone is in the frequency untill u find an empty one.
but dont be anoying with it just say something like hello is someone on XYZ frequency?
Im talking about just like toy type 22channel blubblepack radios or bayophangues with frs in them.
I love your videos, your delivery is epic!!
However, especially on the Baofeng, there is T-CTCSS and R-CTCSS. I have tested your claim. If others don’t have the right tone combination they will not be able to hear your transmissions. Your claim is partially correct.
Anyway, I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for making great entertaining content and have a great day!!
Thank you for watching, but, you better test again.
NAR is correct. Listening with no tone set gets to eavesdrop on all. Party line!
I’m not here to waste your time… (Picks up knitting)
Another great "class," Randy. Your two radios sure like one another.
QUESTION: At one point on another of your videos where you 'splain and review the Retevis RT97 repeater, you mention the word "tones" again.....without explanation. what's up with that??
Still a newby, but my SHTF team does have four of your favored Baofengs....... :)
Funny you should mention that because I will be uploading an entire video explaining what tones are and when/how/why to use them in the next few days!
If ignorance is bliss, you have made me no longer blissful...
Hi, im new here but I love your content. I have a stupid question thats about the codes. Do the Dcs or ctcss codes on the GMRS radio translate to the cheep FRS radios sub/privacy codes/ch???
Yes. CTC/DTC/DPL tones are standardized, although there are a few radios that dont support the full list, but most do.
Great video Very to the point and i agree they need to stop calling them privacy tones
Many years ago I was buying something at Radio Shack and the sales man was try to sell an HT set to a person and was telling them about the Privacy codes as if no one could hear a conversation once they were set. I forget if i had a chance to tell the person how privacy tones actually work but I think I did.
Good to know. Every day I learn something new.
PL or private line tone used for accessing repeaters. You should do a video on the frs radio with 50 channels
Dude you seriously read my mind - i was just looking at those "50 channel" FRS/GMRS radios that a company that rhymes with Smotorola sells..
Its basically a dark room with a string and a can and toes getting stepped on all over the place. And those with out a string and can, have night vision and can hear all the conversations, LOL.
OUSTANDING! what a great way to describe this.. thank you.
That radio manufacturer that rhymes with "crayola"
That manufacturer makes the best radio equipment on the planet, along with that manufacturer that rhymes with "farris" They are used by local agencies all the way up to federal agencies. Do you want someone you love that needs critical medical attention depending on an EMS or Paramedic agency using a Baofeng? Come on now. Randy's videos are fun and he is a nice guy but this Motorola bashing is just stupid.
Excellent explanation of PL tones.
Dear Mister Baofeng, thank you for inventing the UV5R. If I'm understanding this correctly, CTCS tones don't guarantee privacy past 20 miles unless I'm on a GMRS repeater subchannel?
Very good, simple explanation! Thank you!!
Thanks for revealing the conspiracy and Truth! BTW anyone in the Socal area, sorry my wife thought it was a private conversation!
And multiple declarations on packaging repeatedly saying private, could be a Lawsuit for misleading and deceptive.
No Roger beep ? Guess I'm off to use my carrier pidgin..
Pro Tip .. this has a useful use . And is used to minimise interference . But your point is valid privacy tones are not private per say
CTCSS tones ar usefull! :) if you have some distant radio breaking you squelch, turn it on, (tell your buddys wat to set it for or it goes dead silent :P )
I usually set my TX tone to 88.5 and turn on or off RX ctcss so I can hear everything, when I get annoyed by some interference I will turn on RX ctcss (88.5) and since all my other radios transmit 88.5 by default it wil just continue to work :)
but yes.. PL (Private Line) the name is BS,..
ps, CTCSS stands for "continues tone coded squelch system"
nothing private about that ;-)
In my understanding, if two persons use a tone and a third person transmits in the same channel and *at the same time* with any of the other two persons, he should always be heard from the receiver. It doesn't matter if he doesn't use a tone or uses another tone. As the receiver detects the tone and as both signals share the same band, they should be added.
I like to call those separator tones. They aren't privacy for sure, but they do help separate yourself and your group from others.
Great explanation. Calling it CTCSS a *NUISANCE FILTER* is correct. Like what you said, CTCSS could be still be used to prevent those people with bad intentions from disrupting comms like that of an emergency response team. Which could endanger the team or block out the comm itself. It is ok to listen, but do stupid things particularly during an emergency or a special event is unethical and pure evil.
As a member of one such emergency response group, I have had experiences like that. Once, it was before a terrible typhoon hit, our city was on high alert and was preparing for it, some a-hole thought it would be funny to key in his/her radio on the frequency used by the city. The frequency was rendered useless the whole night because of that. In another case, it was a parade, two started chit-chatting on the same frquency used by the city which unfortunately does not use a CTCSS. I think, those chatting were using CTCSS. Because they did not cease when we told them to change frequency (a negative effect of knowing how to use CTCSS). Luckily, we (those involved in the parade) still got through to each other but it was difficult and a lot of miscommunication happened. i am sure it will still happen in the future. That is why I am telling our group to use CTCSS on our radio to minimize or prevent that partucularly during emergency operations.
With regards to the tone scan, not everyone knows about tone scan. Well, except those with background in communications. Not all radio has that function. I think UV-5R doesn't. (correct me if I am wrong)
The UV-5R does.
"One small step for a man..." was broadcast over a UV5R
They should be referred to as ‘filter tones or codes’ for the benefit of laymen… more in line with the definition of squelch, it literally filters out other radios not on that tone, and wouldn’t allow manufacturers to say “300 channels available” or whatever
Thanks for sharing this info. What we need here in southeast Alabama and I am licensed to use the radio . We need a GMRS repeater in a couple of places . So that any one who can afford the license and a radio can contact each other in case of an emergency during storm season as so forth. Just an idea. As mentioned I like your info. Thanks NotaRubicon
Then be a pillar of the community and put up a repeater !
Thanks . It might take some time and money. But it would be worth it .
Watch this 3 video series from Randy. ruclips.net/video/exAdO2898wI/видео.html
HAM is the domain of storm spotters and emergency response here in AR.
Thanks, something I was not aware of either.
I'm just curious to know if you ever have occasion to use ctss or dcs.... or whatever their called. In the old days when id talk to my friends in a road caravan we'd many times turn up the cb squelch to help eliminate noise from more distant cb users on the same channel - although we COULD hear them weakly if we were actively chatting. I'm thinking ctss or dcs, or what ever their called, act simularly to high squelch settings except for the encoding. From what I understand, ctss/dcs only break open the squelch of the other coded radio such that if there is another signal on your opened channel you'll hear him as well as your own contact. What I'm saying is a bit contrary to what you explained.... but I'm just trying to get this "privacy" tone thing straight in my head. I hope that was less than 15 paragraphs... :)
is to block out the anoying guy keying up over your convos in family use The guy yelling to move a cone or doing god knows what up on some cell tower blowing up your walkie or yelling about flying some speaker cabinets over a stage and cussin on there pecking you being a stinky old karen disrespecting you.
Channel Guard term was used by Ericsson or GE
I have a question for you. I have a 16 Channel Tekk NT-90 5 Watt radio the has been preprogrammed by the Company selling the item. The two Tekk radios communicate with each other perfectly. A friend has a Baofeng UV-5R. He can program the frequency corresponding to my Channel 1 and I can hear him fine on my Tekk. However, I cannot transmit to his radio. Is this due to preprogrammed privacy codes on my radio? If so, is there a way to remove these codes so the two radios can communicate with each other or is there something going on?
Thanks,
The technical term for those tones is actually "BOTI-Tones", which stands for: blank out the idiots!
I would only use them for a repeater. Why would I not want to know someone else is on the same channel.
Good morning Nota. Got my new KG 905g radios.
I’m setting ctcss codes. What is the difference
between RX-DTC and TX-DTC:? Do they perform
different functions?
Thanks again. Randy S
RX=RECEIVE and TX=Transmit - One is the tone that is sent when transmitting and the other, when receiving.
@@TheNotaRubicon
Thanks. I understand that, but does one keep my radio
from hearing others and the other keep my radio from being heard?
I’ll try again. Do RX DTC CTCSS codes keep my
transmissions from being heard. And do TX DTC
CTCSS codes keep my radio from hearing others.
Or vice versa.
In other words I set both RX-DTC and TX-DTC codes
on my kg 905g. Do they perform different functions?
If I’m not making sense, it’s ok to say so.👍
Thanks again. Keep the rubber on the trail.
Randy S. aka Rando S
@@rando1818 NO tones or codes keep you from being heard by others. No matter what you set, others can ALWAYS hear you. I can think of very few situations if any where it would make any sense for a normal user to not set the RX and TX tones the same. Again, there is NO setting on GMRS or FRS radios that can prevent others from hearing YOU, you can only filter out what YOU hear from other people. Period.
There is only one king of GMRS and FRS and that is not a Rubicon, Just watching RUclips listening to this man who belongs to a Laurel Canyon emergency group I guess they’re a bunch of neighbors interfering outside the canyon. He is explaining CTCSS tones, Because of all the gardeners and construction crews, and everybody else using FRS illegally transmitting illegals signals into their canyon, omg. lol 😂 I gave him kudos, thank you for all your knowledge and teaching me all about GMRS.
"Privacy" tones and sub-challens are the radio equivalent of the Cone of Silence.
Seems like the privacy tones just enables hogging a channel. So any 'channel' above 22 on my Midland handheld is one of these tone channels? I wish I could disable the channels above 22 from the scan function.
Thanks for your service to the real people of this world. I wish there was a 'Love' button right beside the 'Like' button on YT, because I love your channel, along with all the sarcasm. Join this man's cause people!
Now this is interesting! Thanks!👍👍😎🇺🇸 Great PSA!
Oh I just went through it trying to get my GM-30 to get on the same so called privacy tones as my smolarota FRS. Radios. I had to get my whisper scanner out and key up to find out that only a few tones were CTSS and in the higher numbers were DCS. The chart did me no good 😂 WRQB218.
And yes sir, you are correct, they allow for no interruptions not privacy.
Okay, but, for bubble-pack radios only, there is a special Sub-Code that Channels 35 mile range, along with great audio Tone in complete Privacy, right?
Thank you. Great explanation.
I like your presentation style.
Also, very informative material here.