The 40 Minute Out of Station Interchange
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2020
- Did you know that there are OSI's (Out Of Station Interchanges) which lets you have up to FORTY MINUTES of change time. I went to try it out, and also head for the Least Used OSI in the whole of London ...
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48 people look like it's one person doing it once a week.
🤣 🤣 🤣 The same person 😂
And only in one direction.
I live in Paris and I'm one of the 48 people who did OSI at Upper Warlingham but didn't know that it was so least used
what OSIs does the Paris Metro have?
@@SamSitar Is not the paris system a time carnet rather than point to point or zone to zone ?
Yeah there are no OSI in Paris cuz when you validate your Navigo card or ticket you can go anywhere in the system but you cant exit or you have to use another ticket and also cuz the system is condensed that there are many changes you make by leaving the metro and entering another station but you will need a new ticket.
Nicolas Ernandes paris train tickets are so cute and small
No way! I didn't know that I was part of a group of only 48. That's pretty cool.
Love the sneaky 'OSI' in marker pen at the bottom of your Pret cup!
I read it as 150
0:27 You can’t just mention Mornington Crescent out of the blue like that. You have to follow the rules of the game. And also, don’t forget to read out the letter from a “Mrs Trellis of North Wales” before you start.
I've always loved how the little Warlingham valley has two, twin-track, electrified railways on either side, a classic bit of Victorian overkill :p
Geoff, you are suppose to stop as soon as you say Mornington Crescent, that is the end of the game, unless you are playing the George Stephenson rules, but arriving at Mornington Crescent at the beginning of the game is really bad form.
40 minutes provides ample opportunity to sample the superb Radius Arms micropub, just down from where Geoff crosses the road between Upper Warlingham/Whyteleafe. Anyway, I may sadly have been one of the 48 OSIs, hopping on a Whytleafe to Caterham train when the 407 buses are up the spout.
Perfect timing!! Just finished a video on Tom Scott and the Technical Difficulties. Good Morning.
When he dropped his phone imagine if somebody came and took it
In South London? Never.
lemoncloud GT What? That’s so weird
These days someone might suspect that the phone was filming by itself.
I am pleased to understand this. Last trip to the UK I went Epping to Liverpool Street and overground to White Hart Lane. I tapped out at LVS Central Line and back in again on overground and wondered why I was not charged for two journeys. I understand now.
Thank you!
0:18 A 15 STOREY BUILDING GEOFF???
Brought back loads of memories Geoff, lived in Warlingham for over 20 years, used the train for many years into London, my parents had a Pet Store in Whyteleafe and my Father had a Private Hire Company at Whyteleafe Station, all long gone now, but Happy Days I'm talking like 30 plus years.
Geoff's hinted at his next series at 3:12 - Least Used Toilets on the London Underground
Love the fact ur on trending in the UK
By Train is fantastic. I work on the trains and it is such a brilliant tool. You can even add your journeys to your calendar and track ahead before you travel.
This is actually handy to know as a non-Londoner. I had no idea about these interchanges and the little hacks of the ticketing system (I’m much better versed around Manchester)
5:18 - Woman sees Geoff and says "Oh No!". Obviously did not want to be in the video!
0:34. 'It's not about staircases'. But it could be! A video just about London underground staircases please. I can hardly wait!
he did a video about all the staircases on the tube saying that its like a 15 storey building, so he went and counted all the steps to see what was true about it
Great video Geoff. I didn't even know about OSI's before today.
It’s fascinating someone would make a whole video about my old school journey home 😂😂
We can panic all we like about Corona virus but I will never get bored of my regular supplement of Geoff.
The 40 minutes OSI info from a major Tube terminus station is also handy to know for Out of Town people as well as its a little known fact.
5:18 “Oh no!”
I love these OSIs
That's a nice model of London Bridge station! I think Pret should sponsor you
3:02 maybe it's just me, but they ought to get a series of models showing what the station looked like through the years. Maybe even have one showing what the area looked like before the station was built?
That's what they have. There are a series of plaques depicting the layout of the station after each major refurbishment over the years, with the 2017 concourse overlaid.
I have a map of Roman London with modern London superimposed. The north bank of the Thames was pretty much as it is today but generally a bit further north. The south bank however didn't really exist, there were just mud flats, marsh and open water with a few small islands for sometimes hundreds of yards south of the current south bank. Most of the station is on what is shown as "tidal mudflats" or "tidal creeks and channels". The western end is on dry land with a few buildings shown.
1:34 Geoff really doesn't care about his phone does he?
If he didn’t had a screensaver on his phone he could have cracked the screen a bit
@@lv-ag6129 I don't think he dropped it on a very hard surface
@@lv-ag6129
I don't think you mean screensaver.
I was more concerned he might have accidentally stopped or paused the stopwatch.
he probably had his bag on the floor which it landed it on from a very small height. It would have been fine even if it was concrete floor
@@squeakers27
Yes. You can tell by the sound that it doesn't land on the pavement.
Good try Geoff & fascinating too. Well done!
40 minutes from the Underground to NR at termini is very generous, as someone who often changes at London Bridge that's worth knowing as there's not much to do inside the ticket barriers and no toilets!
Cool - I have actually done the Whyteleafe to Upper Warlingham walk due to a train cancellation. Did it on a paper ticket, though, so no real excitement...
I feel like quite a few people make this connection but don't touch in at Warlingham because there are no barriers there?
Great thanks!
Back in BR days you could visit Melksham, Trowbridge, Bath and Chippenham on one day return ticket. I'll leave you to work out the logistics. This was due to there being no "break of journey" restriction, and tickets being issued "by any route". You could do the same thing from Westbury and Frome also.
Ta.
I can imagine that - the tickets in that area are still anomalously cheap. I once visited Swindon, Chippenham, Trowbridge, Bath, Yeovil, and Weymouth using one day return (using the Salisbury service out of Swindon and returning via Bath), and it was only £12 with a railcard. Long day mind!
I do this at Shepherds Bush on the way to work, use the 20min OSI to go to lidl.
Great video keep up the good work
Ooooh. I’m one of those 48....
Maybe you are all 48 of them?
Yea its probably just 1 person doing it once a week, minus 4 weeks for holidays
Nope. Not I. Just the occasional missed train home with a faster line very close by
I did it 3 times last year after touching in at Upper Warlingham and realising the train was cancelled and walking to Whyteleafe or vice versa. Also my parents have done it a couple of times each year so I guess my family accounts for about 20% of those 48 people!
2:58 The "OSI" on the bottom of the cup, nice easter egg, Geoff 😅
I’ve never seen that staircase at bank, where is it?
Robbie Morrison It runs between the Lombard Street ticket hall and the Northern line
Do a Google image search for "bank station cutaway".
Bank.
I guess we're going to have a completely separate video about that level foot crossing then!
Oh, and I found the bit about non-spiral stairscases very interesting.
Whatever that dude at the start invented, I had to listen three times to get it. I think I finally got it 🤔
Tunnelling shield. I had to look the man up on Wikipedia.
Amazingly I have done the walk between the 2 southern stations it's very short. But it was when the local service didn't go through so there would otherwise have been a bus, and who would want that!
That dead pan "Oh no!" killed me, hah!
I'm one (possibly two) of the 48 who did this OSI in 2019. I'm surprised the numbers are quite as low as they are, but there are a few reasons why they are low:
Firstly, there are no barriers at either station, so Zone 6 ST holders can (and sometimes will) make the interchange without touching in or out. Additionally, anyone going beyond Upper Warlingham on that line would need a paper ticket anyway.
Secondly, if you're on a train from London/Croydon and heading anywhere between Whyteleafe and Caterham, you're probably better off getting a 407 bus than changing trains. Buses are more frequent and aren't much slower. In fact, sometimes the 407 can actually win a race with the train between Caterham and Whyteleafe. Both are timetabled to take about six minutes and if they're running at the same time it can be quite exciting... (I wonder if Geoff would want to do a video racing Southern trains and the bus between Caterham and Whyteleafe? Best of three wins!)
Finally, if you're travelling in the other direction, from Caterham or Whyteleafe South you'd probably stay on your train and change at East Croydon or Purley. So you'd only do this OSI if you're making a very specific journey like Caterham to Riddlesown or Kenley to Woldingham or something. In most cases there will be bus or bus+train options that make more sense.
Thinking about it, the last time I did this change I had a paper ticket from Caterham to Oxted, so I wouldn't have counted as one of the 48.
Might be useful If I am visting a shop or friend in the area for a short break
On the information I've seen, TfL said 'around 48' people made this journey last year, which I thought was odd - 48 seemed like a very specific number to be approximate, but this makes sense :)
@@finlaycox8026 Around 42 would have been a better answer
The 40-minute OSI at London termini looks interesting. BUT I note that the OSI from KingsX/StP LU is indeed 40 mins into Kings X NR but only 30 mins to St Pancras International - which seems very odd.
Please do least used NR station in London now that Angel Road had closed. Or are you waiting for the stats to come in?
6:35 ... time enough to pop into a corner shop for stuff on the way.
The Alan Partridge of The Choo Choo's .. Bless Geoff :)
Uh hu.
Nice
Never knew!! Bit odd that you can get charged twice if you go through the inmost gateline in Canary Wharf from an incoming train then go through the next gateline to get into the Shopping Mall!
when Geoff dropped his phone cracked me up
but aren't you walking the distance 3 times when going, setting up a camera, walking back and then picking up the camera as you walk by?
Geoff!! I've got great news for you, you have 25 days to catch a slam door train, then they go, greater anglia are retiring them march 31st
TfW will still have them for a while longer. Possibly GWR as well
@@norbitonflyer5625 ah yes, silly me!
Meanwhile I live in Stockholm and think that all these fees and charges seems horrendously overcomplicated... Here we just have single ticket that is valid for 75 minutes and allows one to travel to all stations. (except Arlanda that needs another ticket...) So one can more or less go from anywhere to anywhere for about 3€. But most people here just pay 97€ for a ticket that is valid a whole month. (except to Arlanda...)
If one will only be staying for a day or two, then it is debatable if the 24 (16€) or 72 (33€) hour ticket will be more worth while compared to just buying a regular ticket for 3€.
In the end.
Geoff should probably visit Stockholm sometime and go to all the subway, tram and commuter train stations available. For the nominal fee of 43€ for a week long ticket + hotel and travel expenses.
The only time I visited Stockholm was way back in 1985... and that was for only a couple of days. It's been I'm my plans to visit many European mainland destinations but the pandemic meant those have been on hold... Stockholm is high on my list, as part of a longer trip to include Copenhagen and Oslo. Might even manage it later this year!
I live in Whyteleafe and often use the OSI when trains are delayed but don’t tap in both sides so realise now i haven’t been contributing to the stats. Oops. Theres a foot crossing beside jewsons on the upper warlingham line (just after the bridge as you come from London), I didn’t know there was one for the other branch in Kenley.
I was one of the 48 👌
May be they offer twenty minutes to use the Warlingham interchange, because some trains may be late...twenty minutes are likely enough time,even if a train is quite late and some passengers are not common with the whole area.
You should do a Tier List of you’re favourite and least Favourite underground stations
As an Irish person who studied Archaeology when I here the OSI I think of Ordinance Survey Ireland
Went from Euston to Tower Hill (to drop bags off at hotel), on DLR Tower gateway and off to Stratford and was all listed as 1 journey, so I guess this means it was an out of station interchange?
1:47 Geoff catches Coronavirus...
You should check out the metros of the US like Washington DC, NYC Subway, etc...
Interesting app names. Have you also considered using national rail for the timetable side of things?
do you know about the 'twittern' crossing at Kenley,
well it is between Whyteleafe and Kenley, trains have to signal bcus you can just walk across the track at that point,
Interesting about the stats for OSIs, is there potential for a video about some of the most used ones?
Waterloo probably? Most used station. Lots of people will arrive by tube to get the train home.
Him:drops phone
Me:ayo is it broken
I got stung once thinking I had the same 40 minutes you get for going between Aldgate and Fenchurchurch Street, when doing that trip in reverse. Nipped for a quick pint at the bar at Fenchurch before setting off to Aldgate. Turns out you only get 20 minutes when going that way. Never again.
1:34 WOAH Geoff! Would you have dropped it if it was an iPhone 11 Pro Max?😂😂😂
Lol I’ve used that osi on my oyster zone all the station.
Bank DLR/Monument Station probably has the longest internal change time between platforms.
that video of you on the escalator completely confused my brain.
Geoff you got a sparkly ScotRail Oyster Card Holder
Great effects out of the bus window. How did you do that?
He got the conductor to sit on the roof with a watering can.
Cutaways aka Caseyvision \m/
Is there a journey which is cheaper(/more expensive) if at the end you walk to a nearby station connected via an OSI and immediately tap out afterwards, or are all OSIs between stations with the same fares?
Sometimes it is cheaper to take a bus between OSIs to break the journey.
@@katrinabryce Depends if you have to pay a bus fare or if you have a zonal season that will give you free bus travel plus you pay for out of zone journeys with the OSI between charged (or not) as appropriate
Long time fan and subscriber, never had cause to question your vast knowledge before. (I honestly mean that, it wasn't meant sarcastically!)
48 people? I've seen more folk do that OSI in a week, Is this based purely on Oyster Card data? There's gotta be a fault in the data capture somewhere.
It could well be the least used in *ahem* London, but could it be some form of anomaly as Upper Warlingham is the last station on the Grinstead/Uckfield line inside the 1-6 zones, whereas Whyteleaf continues Oyster/zonal service all the way to Caterham?
Paper tickets, available with that OSI/route will probably make up the majority of folk travelling from EGR/Uck lines, therefore not appearing in figures?
Dunno, apologies for rambling, hope it makes sense.
I do love the vids, not trying to be the one comment who starts a disagreement.
150 under the Pret cup - is that the amount of steps at Bank?
OSI innit
Can you go visit Shireoaks Train Station?
in Moscow all the metro OSIs are 90 minutes
Geoff taps out at London Bridge
Head of TfL: I sense a disturbance in the network.
Geoff: I'm just going to faff around for half an hour before touching back in to National Rail
Head of TfL shudders
I used to work for TfL and never understood when anyone asked me about osi
Is it in ios and android
1:10 ♫♫ Goin' anywhere ♫♫
Can't find by train on the android app store!
Did you ever get back to Kenley & its crossing?
Time for a pint!
Brilliant! Shame things went a bit pair-shaped at the end!
Can u do the least used station on c2c
Good that you’re explaining what apps you use, but another question, does it take the info from the National rail feeds or is it a third party source? I mean the second app which you pointed out in this video.
0:01 morning to you to even though it's evening (I know this was recorded then)
At nine minutes to four.
Any benefits of using By Train to official National Rail app?
The “Ministry of Silly Transport Quests” strikes again...
Wait why didn't he do it the other way? Like the Caterham train he got on at London bridge stops at Whyteleafe no?
Question: Do you get a 40 min OSI Underground to Overground at Euston? Watford DC trains do leave from the National Rail platforms after all...
I think so. It is because you have to wait until the platform is announced before you go through the gateline.
Like the ‘Brad Pitt you ain’t’ on the clock!
that phone drop
Very interesting video. Good to meet other addicts of the game, maybe one set of rules could be based on exits!
Geoff mate: here's a suggestion to combine 2 of your interests. OSI Marathon/ 1/2 Marathon & 10KM. Rules are your bit though, I'm noted for not being detail oriented...
Does the 40 minute thing work at Tower Hill fenchurch st
Makes the 25 minute OSI at Farnborough seem stupidly close!
Please can you clarify the fact about non-spiral staircases?