I think it’s a bit of an unfair comparison with the different tone knob settings Some people getting started with bass may not know what a tone knob is, so they may just assume that those two basses can only get those sounds
Would reccomend someone who is just getting started on bass to not base their decision on a 30 second video, get themselves down to a store and try out as many as possible :) Thanks for your feedback! - Sam
Now what's the difference between a rock bass and a jazz bass? A rock bass plays 4 notes to a thousand people A jazz bass plays a thousand notes to 4 people.
I'm at the point where every bass I pick up I end up messing with the tone knobs and dialing in the same tone I always use. Tone truly is in the fingers for the most part.
Closer to the bridge pickup gives you the more pointed, edgier sound, right? I’m a sax player, but I’ve been watching and listening to bass players for a long while.
I always wonder why producers choose pbass more often than J. I belive it is because the "bass profile" from a P is less jumpy due to the offset neck pickup. Thats why I play a pj, cause you get the nice brightness from the bridge J, with the added bass stability from the P.
One of the primary reasons is that j basses typically have single coil pickups and p basses have split coil. This makes j basses have a bunch of hum between notes, whereas o basses are relatively silent. Other than that, if the pickups are in a similar location they can sound extremely similar. Oh, one is usually a few millimeters wider on the neck than the other as well, but I can't remember which at the moment.
I had to mime this out in public to think about it. And if i'm honest I don't think there's a single right answer, other than it depends on what's coming next. For example, if you're going to rake down the strings, start with your index finger. :) Cheers, Ollie
I like the sound of both, but every time I see a bass, I always want to try and match the tone/sound of Peter Steele (lead singer and bassist of the band Type O Negative)
The precision sounds like its tone knob is way down. The jazz sounds like it's neck pickup is off. I still totally appreciate this video, just saying there's more to the story.
I have a Squier 5 string that says Precision on the headstock, but has jazz pickups. What's the deal with this? Anybody know? I got it new from a shop, so it's not like someone swapped the neck.
Slight issue comes from the fact that you can make a jazz bass sound like a pbass. But you can’t do it the other way around. If you have a PJ, even better.
I have a J and a P. They’re both right for that specific sound and gig. I prefer the mid thump of the P. You can always EQ out a bit of the mid in a My influence is James Jamerson, soul and blues.
That was not a fair comparison, the J was using the bridge pickup and open tone while the P was using (as it couldn't be different) the middle/neck (whatever you prefer to call it) pickup and closed tone
@@HickiesMusicStore Well yeah of course you saw my Mom. She was very happy to meet you and thought you were a friend and had no idea you were sucking me off. Also who is Ollie?
Let’s say 1 pickup basses have 3 sounds: tone off, tone 50% and tone 100%. That means the Jazz Bass has 9 sounds, but even 10+ minute comparisons still reduce it to HONK, they just call it ‘the Jaco sound’.
Oh I’m definitely a Precision Bass guy! Got a jazz and for me it’s simple if Im not going to use both volume knobs at maximum why bother? Noting is more simple then a Precision One volume One tone Voila!!
(From a guitar player, who plays bass on the side's perspective) Jazz bass is if you took the bright tones of a fender stratocaster and put it on to a bass, and the P bass has the more creamy tones of a Les Paul or a ES-335 and put it on a bass.
I can't stand people that dial out the neck pickup on the Jazz. I don't know why people feel the need to do it. It literally removes all the bass frequency
I can tell you if I made the exact same comparison. There would be a slight tonal difference but it sounds like either the tone knob waz down on that pbass or it has a problem
@@frankorobinson1540 the other thing is there was DISTORTION on the p bass which is truly indicative of the unfair fight. Why is it muffled AND distorted??? I mean we all know the P Bass has less variety of sounds than a Jazz bass for one due to having one less pickup. But in my opinion, its a sweeter fuller tone than either of the jazz tones, not by a lot but a pinch.. but it is certainly clean and not dull. I can understand if you think the jazz is the better tone. I probably would never make a bassist play a P bass over a Jazz bass on a recording even on a song that I wrote... but man oh man, if doing a comparison of two of anything, you can be sure youre gonna get a fair comparison from me or I wont even do it.
I dont seem to remember there being any distortion added to the signal chain on this video, and in terms of a "fight" we would rather do our best to cover as many bases as possible for everyone on the channel :) Perhaps some longer, more in depth videos on both basses would better than judging from a video that last less than a minute, and thats on us! Would love to look into doing a feature length demonstration of both, covering the effect of tone knobs to make it the fairest it could possibly be! Hope you are having a great day where you are, and keep your eyes peeled for some feature length bass videos! :) Cheers! - Sam
@@HickiesMusicStore Im just basing this on around 100 new and used squire p basses sounding much cleaner, brighter, fuller and the americans dont sound worse... nor do the Mexican Fenders. Just nit sure why I hear that bit of crunch wven though the treble is squashed. 2 ways to get crunch, a super hot signal naturally over driving some stage of the amp or input chain to the recirding device, or a pedal... but if there is enough gain to distort then the treble should be overwhelming and not smashed. I record and do live aound and how I set my EQ in a recording is by looping just a few seconds of audio so. I will maybe touch it but the fact that its just one minute to me.. I mean what I am establishing is that I know how fenders sound plugged direct and into ampeg, galeon kruger, hartke, mesa, sunn, you name it.. the difference between a jazz and a p bass is what I know in my head, its a close ratio. And I can hear active vs passive on a jazz in my sleep. Or if live at a show if somehow during transporting my ton knob were turned, I would have that knob fixed DURING the very first note I played, would not take me 60 seconds to figure out. All that said, amd I will say that there are some songs that call for a Jazz bass and not a P bass and you really should have both at your disposal. Not even gping to talk about active vs passive on the jazz.
Oh Hey, thanks for replying! I play a Squier Paranormsl 54' Jazz Bass. The buzzing always happens when I let go of anything metal. The buzzing also grows when I solo one pickup with the bridge on full with 100% tone. But the buzzing gets reduced by a lot when I turn the neck pickup all the way up and the tone for that all the way down. It's also the same thing but the other way around with 100% neck pickup tone and 0% bridge pickup tone.
@@athan1453 Cool bass! Love those ones. Sounds like it's got a grounding issue, can happen quite easily with the ones with the dual pots. It's a fairly easy fix if you bring it to a local guitar tech. :D Cheers, Ollie
Idk if he did it on purpose but the white bass he called jazz is actually a Pbass. The jazz bass is the second one with black inlays. It the playing styles that are different.
The jazz bass sounds funky and the P Bass sounds jazzy
That’s what I was thinking
Ironic
Same company who made a guitar called jazzmaster and it's mostly used got grunge and punk...I guess.
So what bass do I need to play Acid jazz (jazz funk) then?
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I think it’s a bit of an unfair comparison with the different tone knob settings
Some people getting started with bass may not know what a tone knob is, so they may just assume that those two basses can only get those sounds
Would reccomend someone who is just getting started on bass to not base their decision on a 30 second video, get themselves down to a store and try out as many as possible :) Thanks for your feedback! - Sam
@@HickiesMusicStore Yeah but the comparison is literally the whole part of this short, so why not compare them fairly?
@@fr3ak1shh We'll have to treat you to a full length video at some point! Good shout! Cheers! - Sam
totally agree thank-you this video is pointless
Especially since on the jazz bass they have the neck pickup turned down!
You forgot to turn the tone up on the p bass maybe
Yeah that’s a pretty poor representation of a P-Bass’ tone. It can growl pretty good too
p bass sounds better with tone rolled off imo
Yea sounds almost like flatwounds
@@tr3ndkiller jazz bass goes honk and the p bass goes growl
He also forgot to turn on the neck pickup on the jazz bass
Now what's the difference between a rock bass and a jazz bass?
A rock bass plays 4 notes to a thousand people
A jazz bass plays a thousand notes to 4 people.
HAH. Don't I know it. :'(
Nice😂
No
damn that's fucked up bro
explain Geddy Lee then
I'm at the point where every bass I pick up I end up messing with the tone knobs and dialing in the same tone I always use. Tone truly is in the fingers for the most part.
Hard agree! - Sam
Agree. So what is the tone you go for?
Jazz Base sounds like somebody farting under water
Thankyou sam for your very detailed and interesting Feedback! Hope you are having a great day where you are - Sam
@@HickiesMusicStore Hilarious 😂
bass*
Do you realize how immature you sound
And I guess a p bass is like 💨 farting in you’re jeans
J bass is just so funky
Too right!!
The way you managed to get beautiful tones from both has me 😍
Thanks so much, I'll be sure to let ollie know, he'll be flattered. - Sam
Think it's fair to say the two of them are so versatile they can't be covered in a short.
So relax guys, it's just two of the many famous tonalities
^PROTECT THIS MAN AT ALL COSTS.
Just dropping by from my bands page to say that this is the best comment on this video
I'm surprised more people don't go for a PJ setup. Best of both worlds, man!
Is it really? I have an Ibanez at the moment so not sure.
pretty much a p bass
The Precision bass is unmatched!🤘🏻✨
Sounds like the adjustment of the tone knob.
One of the many cool sounds you can get out of both basses 😉 Cheers! - Sam
Big part of the difference here is also the position of the right hand.
Very true Patrick! makes a world of difference! - Sam
Closer to the bridge pickup gives you the more pointed, edgier sound, right? I’m a sax player, but I’ve been watching and listening to bass players for a long while.
I love how you making those noises perfectly describes the sounds of both instruments 😂
My favorite sound is a only neck pick up and like 9 on the tone knob, then play it almost over fret board....it's like a the best of a p and j
You’ve cut the high frequencies on the second one.
I always wonder why producers choose pbass more often than J. I belive it is because the "bass profile" from a P is less jumpy due to the offset neck pickup. Thats why I play a pj, cause you get the nice brightness from the bridge J, with the added bass stability from the P.
Yeah that bridge pickup is essential for ANYTHING jaco right!?
One of the primary reasons is that j basses typically have single coil pickups and p basses have split coil. This makes j basses have a bunch of hum between notes, whereas o basses are relatively silent.
Other than that, if the pickups are in a similar location they can sound extremely similar. Oh, one is usually a few millimeters wider on the neck than the other as well, but I can't remember which at the moment.
Plus humbuckers have more output which is great mixing wise
P bass goes Bum Bum and J bass goes Bem Bem
Thats some fun sounding feedback matt! Cheers for this - Sam
Jazz bass sounds very goofy, and i like it.
That's why my favorite pickup combo on bass is P/J, and with a blend knob. You get both options.
Having played both for years and in many types of venues I'd say the best sounding is The EBMM Stingray.
Man this is great i subbed
Would be nice to try flats on a jazz, there are some sweet tones on yt.
Yeah great shout Diego, I've never actually tried a jazz with flats.
Yeah I love my jazz with flats
Jazz with flats is actually better than P with flats (assuming youre not going for 50s 60s vibes)
That's the Reggae tone! Jazz Bass with flats is just a classic!
I'm going to have to look up what you're talking about as I am clueless ... this is all new to me
They both sound fantastic
Great straightforward comparison for starters! Although it would have been better IMO if the P’s tone was set to around 5-7 😊
yeah fair shout Paolo! I've been beasting a p-bass with flats and have been hooked on the deadest tone haha.
That sounds so nice fr bro
Great instruments with different tone fields.
Do you start off using middle finger or 1st finger ? What is best? (Without a pick)
I had to mime this out in public to think about it. And if i'm honest I don't think there's a single right answer, other than it depends on what's coming next. For example, if you're going to rake down the strings, start with your index finger. :) Cheers, Ollie
I’ve got a jazz bass and I’ve used it for 54years it’s an amazing bass gorgeous sound I just love fender guitars the best.🎸
You can turn the tone knob one way or the other to get both of those sounds.
my dream bass is 5 string japanese j-bass "Atelier"
The tone on a jazz bass is quite versatile but a pbass can be too. Love em both. They say tone is mostly in the fingers
Both great basses! Thank so much for this - Sam
Honk vs thump. PERFECT 💯
So glad you liked it! Cheers!
Thanks for reminding me why any other bass has more character and life than a pbass.
I’ve found that on a jazz bass if you turn the neck pickup to 90%, the bridge pickup to 0, and roll the tone off it sounds like a P bass.
yeah great idea!! next best thing for sure.
No, it doesn't
That’s how you get the reggae sound ;)
EQ played a fair role in this to be honest...
What’s best for playing funk music?
I'm pretty sure you can get close to that sound with the j bass
The solo bridge pup is NOT why I bought a jazz. The reason I have one is both pickups.
Only if you play the jazz bass on the bridge pickup......
I like the sound of both, but every time I see a bass, I always want to try and match the tone/sound of Peter Steele (lead singer and bassist of the band Type O Negative)
I have one bass so far, a PJ with a malfunctioning J pickup. This video was instrumental in convincing me to get that J fixed.
What are the settings on the amp and the jazz bass? I want that sound
Thanks for this, I would have asked Ollie, but he is no longer with the shop anymore, and off to the fire and rescue service! Cheers - Sam
The precision sounds like its tone knob is way down. The jazz sounds like it's neck pickup is off. I still totally appreciate this video, just saying there's more to the story.
what should i get a hambucker or a jazz bass to get the sound like joe dart
I have a Squier 5 string that says Precision on the headstock, but has jazz pickups. What's the deal with this? Anybody know? I got it new from a shop, so it's not like someone swapped the neck.
Slight issue comes from the fact that you can make a jazz bass sound like a pbass. But you can’t do it the other way around. If you have a PJ, even better.
Played in different locations relative to the bridge, so hard to say. Of course it will sound brighter nearer to the bridge.
The Jazz Bass is brighter because he has the tone rolled way off in the P-Bass segment.
put a treble booster and a fuzz on that thing
yeaaah great shout dude!
That p bass sound is a drug
The only perscription...is more p bass.
I have a J and a P. They’re both right for that specific sound and gig.
I prefer the mid thump of the P. You can always EQ out a bit of the mid in a My influence is James Jamerson, soul and blues.
That was not a fair comparison, the J was using the bridge pickup and open tone while the P was using (as it couldn't be different) the middle/neck (whatever you prefer to call it) pickup and closed tone
Tbh the difference sounds more like an EQ thing if anything.
Dude... I met this guy on grindr months ago. Weird to see him making videos on youtube after he blew me.
Yeah that's right! About a week after I saw your mum wasn't it? :) Cheers, Ollie
@@HickiesMusicStore Well yeah of course you saw my Mom. She was very happy to meet you and thought you were a friend and had no idea you were sucking me off. Also who is Ollie?
Get a PJ bass.
So a P-bass with a Jazz rear single coil.
Now use both pickups, and dial the front P-pickup back just a slight amount. You’ll hear it.
Great shout. :) I love the Mustang basses with that configuration! Cheers, Ollie
Let’s say 1 pickup basses have 3 sounds: tone off, tone 50% and tone 100%. That means the Jazz Bass has 9 sounds, but even 10+ minute comparisons still reduce it to HONK, they just call it ‘the Jaco sound’.
You're exactly right, might have to do a longer video on this topic. Great idea. :)
I like P bass and change the treble on the amp, but Jazz Bass is awesome too! But i prefer the simplicity. Minimalism hahaha
Got it. Thanks
I got a p bass with jazz neck. Its a beauty
You can make either of those sound those ways
Oh I’m definitely a Precision Bass guy! Got a jazz and for me it’s simple if Im not going to use both volume knobs at maximum why bother? Noting is more simple then a Precision One volume One tone Voila!!
You can get the best of both worlds: PJ with jazz neck
both are great, but have a jazz 5 rn
Tone is really dialled back on the precision. It's a lot more versatile than you hearing here.
Hi David! Heres a squier precision doing its best to be dynamic for you
ruclips.net/video/837ZvArxZ4M/видео.html
Thank you
What are the tone settings on the jazz bass?
That p bass has a beautiful appearance and tone for only being 389GBP. I want it for that price. Is it really a squier?
Most scientific video I found on this topic
You definitely messed with the tone controls lol
Having owned both, I MUCH prefer the sound and feel of a P Bass.
The jazz goes thwonk and the precision goes bwomp
Maybe if you didn't turn the treble all the way down on the P-Bass it would honk vs thump?
I'm going to have to revisit this aren't I? Cheers, Ollie
You can thump with a j bass but you can’t honk with a p bass.
Is the tone rolled down on the P bass?
I learned today that Jazz bass sounds "honk!"
Well, shit! Now I got to get another one!
We are not sorry ;) - Cheers! - Sam
I m drawn to PBass tones, probably because I Like James Jamerson
you can make either sound like either
Have a 1974 Jazz bass...
Had a 1977 Precision bass.
How was the P-bass? Am quite the admirer of vintage basses! - Sam
Jazz bass goes thump if you use the neck pickup. 😀
Listening to that P bass I don't know why people crap on Squire it sounded great
(From a guitar player, who plays bass on the side's perspective) Jazz bass is if you took the bright tones of a fender stratocaster and put it on to a bass, and the P bass has the more creamy tones of a Les Paul or a ES-335 and put it on a bass.
I can't stand people that dial out the neck pickup on the Jazz. I don't know why people feel the need to do it. It literally removes all the bass frequency
If you believe this Dude...your crazy...It all depends on how the bass & Amp settings are adjusted.
This guy is Benny blanco if benny blanco played bass
What's the difference between a PJ bass?
Both pickup styles in the same instrument! A good choice for versatility!
OK but you have zero treble in your P bass, making the comparison not so great
I love the p bass sound.
Thanks so much Natasha! Really glad you enjoyed the sound of it! :) Stay awesome - Sam
What about the Fender Precision Jazz?
I can tell you if I made the exact same comparison. There would be a slight tonal difference but it sounds like either the tone knob waz down on that pbass or it has a problem
Hes scared of a fair fight lol
@@frankorobinson1540 the other thing is there was DISTORTION on the p bass which is truly indicative of the unfair fight. Why is it muffled AND distorted??? I mean we all know the P Bass has less variety of sounds than a Jazz bass for one due to having one less pickup. But in my opinion, its a sweeter fuller tone than either of the jazz tones, not by a lot but a pinch.. but it is certainly clean and not dull. I can understand if you think the jazz is the better tone. I probably would never make a bassist play a P bass over a Jazz bass on a recording even on a song that I wrote... but man oh man, if doing a comparison of two of anything, you can be sure youre gonna get a fair comparison from me or I wont even do it.
Bring it on ;) - Sam
I dont seem to remember there being any distortion added to the signal chain on this video, and in terms of a "fight" we would rather do our best to cover as many bases as possible for everyone on the channel :) Perhaps some longer, more in depth videos on both basses would better than judging from a video that last less than a minute, and thats on us! Would love to look into doing a feature length demonstration of both, covering the effect of tone knobs to make it the fairest it could possibly be! Hope you are having a great day where you are, and keep your eyes peeled for some feature length bass videos! :) Cheers! - Sam
@@HickiesMusicStore Im just basing this on around 100 new and used squire p basses sounding much cleaner, brighter, fuller and the americans dont sound worse... nor do the Mexican Fenders. Just nit sure why I hear that bit of crunch wven though the treble is squashed. 2 ways to get crunch, a super hot signal naturally over driving some stage of the amp or input chain to the recirding device, or a pedal... but if there is enough gain to distort then the treble should be overwhelming and not smashed. I record and do live aound and how I set my EQ in a recording is by looping just a few seconds of audio so. I will maybe touch it but the fact that its just one minute to me.. I mean what I am establishing is that I know how fenders sound plugged direct and into ampeg, galeon kruger, hartke, mesa, sunn, you name it.. the difference between a jazz and a p bass is what I know in my head, its a close ratio. And I can hear active vs passive on a jazz in my sleep. Or if live at a show if somehow during transporting my ton knob were turned, I would have that knob fixed DURING the very first note I played, would not take me 60 seconds to figure out. All that said, amd I will say that there are some songs that call for a Jazz bass and not a P bass and you really should have both at your disposal. Not even gping to talk about active vs passive on the jazz.
More neck on the Jazz and some treble on the P.....
It's amazing how clean the tones, how did you get them to sound like that? I play at home and there's always buzzing.
Somebody said they took off the pickups and replaced them with ones that don't create that buzzing sound
Hey mate! We didn't do that, this is stock out the box. :) Cheers, Ollie
Hey mate! What bass do you play? and how do you dial it in? Cheers, Ollie
Oh Hey, thanks for replying! I play a Squier Paranormsl 54' Jazz Bass. The buzzing always happens when I let go of anything metal. The buzzing also grows when I solo one pickup with the bridge on full with 100% tone. But the buzzing gets reduced by a lot when I turn the neck pickup all the way up and the tone for that all the way down. It's also the same thing but the other way around with 100% neck pickup tone and 0% bridge pickup tone.
@@athan1453 Cool bass! Love those ones. Sounds like it's got a grounding issue, can happen quite easily with the ones with the dual pots. It's a fairly easy fix if you bring it to a local guitar tech. :D Cheers, Ollie
tbh, really informative
The jazz is smooth, slippery and sly. The p bass is a brick thudding into mud.
I think of if as the Duck Bass and the Goose Bass
quack and honk Cheers, Ollie
Now I gotta pick up my bass to see what it is
Always an excuse to play some bass! Cheers :)
Groovin ma duudeee 😊
The jazz bass tone sampled is a horrible representation of a sliver of a sound that the jazz bass can deliver
Kind of odd to compare them when one clearly has its tone rolled back super hard
Idk if he did it on purpose but the white bass he called jazz is actually a Pbass. The jazz bass is the second one with black inlays. It the playing styles that are different.