Followed your video repairing my own board, quiet a big ding in pretty much the same spot and I was nicely surprised at how easy it was and how well It turned out thanks guys you saved me at least €60 and a lot more in the future no doubt
Indeed you're correct. All the patch-ups ended up being totally smooth with the board's contours, including a chipped nose. I did cheat on that last step (ie the final "painted-on" resin coat after sanding the fiberglass patches)...I used suncure cause I didn't have the patience for a sanding resin to dry for hours (had to get in the water). Still ended up great. Thanks.
Thank you, awesome vid. I'm midway through repairing about 5 small-medium dings on my board using this filler+fiberglass method, but have a question... Should the sanded filler be flush with the surround surfaces of the board? If so, when glassed over, wouldn't the repair then protrude out a few mm from the rest of the surface of the board (even after sanding the glass layer)? Or should I sand the filler area down slightly below the surround surfaces so the glassed layer would end up flush?
Thanks a lot, the best video I came across for this job and super satisfied having done a good few rounds of the repair today. Good on ya for making such a clear and concise guide!
(resp. by Levy Surf Designs) Solarez works great. Good to fill with. Don't forget to sand it flush. After that you shoud put a layer of cloth over it and sand that in so it won't crack. Just Solarez or quick fix by it's self will crack after a while.
(resp. by Levy Surf Designs) Most boards will say "epoxy" on them. If not epoxy cut the broken glass with a razor knife then sand around it a little & make a "dam" with some masking tape. Mix up some resin+hardener+household sugar & pour it in the dam. After it hardens sand flush with board. Put 2 layers of cloth and resin & let it harden. Sand it in level with board. Then tape off and put a final coat of resin on, let it harden. Sand with 150 sandpaper then 220 then 320 & polish it if need be.
For this vid we used items that can be found by most at home and at popular hardware stores: - resin (all will work, clear is better, surfboard rez is best) - resin hardener - household sugar - fiberglass - 40, 100, 150, 220 grit sandpaper, 220 wet dry sandpaper (300/400 for gloss finish) - plastic cup - brush to apply resin mix - masking tape - utility knife - scissors - popsicle sticks - acetone/paint thinner to clean your brush - someone here mentioned using gloves for additional safety
Thanks! No need to worry about such details, fill in with filler and sand down as shown in video, then apply fiberglass and sand as shown. As shown at the end of the video the rail has no "protrusions".
@TheWilliam1g as the vid shows you will need multiple grits of sandpaper, resin, hardener, fiberglass, tape, sugar (for filler element) and as someone mentioned here some gloves if u r sensitive to the resin solution
@MaikiVu the hardener usually omes with the resin in an epoxy kit. Loctite and Kwik Kick offer Epoxy kits. Usually available at your local hardware store next to the resin and fiberglass.
EPOXY NOTE: You can fix a poly board with epoxy, but you can't fix a epoxy board with poly cause you will melt the Styrofoam. Epoxy takes a lot longer to do and cost more. So if it is not a epoxy there is no need in using it. Most boards will say on them if they are epoxy.
Two last questions: How many parts of filler, resin, and hardener work best? And what exactly is "hardener" called in a hardware store and where should I look for it? This video is perfect. Going to try it out this weekend and will share results.
Review the video from :55-1:30 and I think that will answer your questions. We found our resin and hardener in our local hardware store and the filler (sugar) in our pantry. You can also ask for Q-Cell in your local surf shop if you would rather not use sugar...however we found sugar gives your surfing that extra "jolt" ( ; Yep, let us know how it turns out!
Mainly depends on how much water your board has taken on and how much you are able to dry out. Regarding the suggested repair material the weight gain associated with localized repair job will be negligible.
We figured most self repair is done without immediate access to specialized products like clear resin, hence us gathering all needed product for the video at the local repair store which only had brown resin available.
Hey Air Ron. Yes, that's tough even for experienced guys. Should be able to match the surface of the rest of your board if you gradually go from low grit (80/100/150) to high grit sand paper (220, 400) then finish it off with some 800/1000 wet dry. Feels counterintuitive to sand your board in order to smooth it out I know but give it a shot as I describe and you'll see the magic. If you've got a gloss coat (not a sanded finish coat) use some surfboard polish to give it back that shine. Matching tints can be done as well, we use resin tint from FoamEZ.
I have a ding on my board just like yours on the rail but a small chunk of foam is missing where the ding is. What is the best way to fill in the foam area. Also does it matter wheather your surfboard is polly or epoxy and can you use the same materials while repairing it. My surfboard is old (very yellow) and I can't tell what it is.
Great video! One question: How long does everything need to dry before sanding and going to the next phase? So first the filler, then the fiberglass, and then the coat.
Thanks! Depends on the environment the repair cures in, if you read the specs on the resin it will give you dry times. The amt of hardener and filler you use will tweak that a little. And yes, as it pertains to this specific video, you have the steps in the correct order.
Awesome vid, i have a crack ini my board of about 2 inches, how would I repair this? Would I still need to do everything in the video? A friend of mine mentioned Solarez, would that work?
a hot coat is a layer of resin applied to the laminated fiberglass, fills in the fiberglass "weave" where there may be gaps ensuring a solid fiberglass coat, smooth finish, and no leaks.
hi can you please tell me what you used? i really don't want 2 spend a bunch of $.. i have like 3 boards i need to fix.. and i would have to use like 3 tubes. of sun cure.
Is it really nessecary to go through all these steps? Usually I'll just put suncure on a minor ding, let it dry and file it down the sandpaper. Is that enough? Or is it mandatory to use fiberglass cloth? What are the potential complications?
Suncure is great for minor dings, however the repair area in the video was not minor. If you have not done a repair job like the one in the video there will be a little learning curve, however it is not that hard to do, just go for it!
So, if I wanna, or im forced to, save money, what are the consequences of using the brown, marine resin instead of the clear one; here where I live the clear stuff is rather expensive. Thanks.
and this is called old school bra....before leashes and 3 fins, they fixed em just like you guys.....(..tho I never did know about sugar.!!!)...thanx for the reminder on how many drops of hardener per oz. of resin....now I can go fix my SUP paddle blade...all busted up ....
right on Jack! The premise of the video is to make people aware of the fact that you can easily repair your own boards with stuff you already have lying around (ie. sugar). If you have the time and resources to get better filler, resin, etc that is great too!
Yes, that is what we used, albeit it's more than necessary, but does the job. For this video we wanted to employ products you cold pickup quickly if you didn't have time to wait to find some typical 4 oz fiberglass (or 6 oz for longboards).
EPOXY NOTE: You can fix a poly board with epoxy, but you can't fix a epoxy board with poly cause you will melt the Styrofoam. Epoxy takes a lot longer to do and cost more. So if it is not a epoxy there is no need in using it. Most boards will say on them if they are epoxy. We may come out with an Epoxy repair vid soon, sorry!
whats the filler? are those Q cells? if i dont have the "filler" can i use Resin + Sugar + harderner for the filling? i am repairing a small dislodged on the rail of my nose.
yes, just as we show in the video you can make your own filler out of sugar, resin, and hardener. Also as others here have pointed out there are other fillers that offer benefits over sugar...in the case of the video it was the filler we had available at the time and works well in a pinch.
Hi Cleo, sorry for the late reply, if your board has been damaged for a while exposing the foam to the elements it will deteriorate. Just fill in the gap(s) left behind with filler. First repair job will be a bit of a learning experience (usually at what NOT to do), but don't fret, you will get better at it each time!
the resin you can buy at your local hardware store will have that tinge to it. We have not experimented with manipulating resin colors. Surfboard resin will dry clear.
(resp. by Levy Surf Designs) You can use that resin if it is a polyester board. If it is a epoxy you cannot. That resin comes out brown and your board will look like crap. Go to a surf shop and get a repair kit or a qt of resin. That will come out clear.
Yep you can use any resin, however the stuff you buy from hardware stores is normally going to dry brown and might be a little heavier than resin specific to surfboard repair.
DreamWarrior Depends on your preparation of the area you are repairing, clean it out, prep it with some sand paper so the resin has something to latch onto.
yea Im just going back and repairing a few small cracks less than an inch that were repaired poorly before. I dont think I need to use the fiberglass cloth cause they are so small but this is my first time repairing. thanks for answering, bud
DreamWarrior yup, cloth sounds overkill...remove a bit of the fiberglass and foam at the crack so the resin can fill in a bit and latch. Remember to make sure board is dry and repair in the shade!
Yep, we know, point of the video though was how to quickly repair a board with items you might already have lying around. Clear resin would be ideal.We like the environmentally-friendlier (bio-based) Super Sap ONE resin + hardener.
As we described you can pickup everything we employed in our video at your local hardware store. If you can plan ahead get more surfboard-oriented repair material through your local surf shop or online surf reseller (Greenlight, FoamEZ, etc)
Followed your video repairing my own board, quiet a big ding in pretty much the same spot and I was nicely surprised at how easy it was and how well It turned out thanks guys you saved me at least €60 and a lot more in the future no doubt
Indeed you're correct. All the patch-ups ended up being totally smooth with the board's contours, including a chipped nose. I did cheat on that last step (ie the final "painted-on" resin coat after sanding the fiberglass patches)...I used suncure cause I didn't have the patience for a sanding resin to dry for hours (had to get in the water). Still ended up great. Thanks.
Thank you, awesome vid. I'm midway through repairing about 5 small-medium dings on my board using this filler+fiberglass method, but have a question...
Should the sanded filler be flush with the surround surfaces of the board? If so, when glassed over, wouldn't the repair then protrude out a few mm from the rest of the surface of the board (even after sanding the glass layer)? Or should I sand the filler area down slightly below the surround surfaces so the glassed layer would end up flush?
Thanks a lot, the best video I came across for this job and super satisfied having done a good few rounds of the repair today. Good on ya for making such a clear and concise guide!
Right on Luc! Feels good once you get a few repairs under your belt. Easy-peezy from then on out!
(resp. by Levy Surf Designs) Solarez works great. Good to fill with. Don't forget to sand it flush. After that you shoud put a layer of cloth over it and sand that in so it won't crack. Just Solarez or quick fix by it's self will crack after a while.
(resp. by Levy Surf Designs) Most boards will say "epoxy" on them. If not epoxy cut the broken glass with a razor knife then sand around it a little & make a "dam" with some masking tape. Mix up some resin+hardener+household sugar & pour it in the dam. After it hardens sand flush with board. Put 2 layers of cloth and resin & let it harden. Sand it in level with board. Then tape off and put a final coat of resin on, let it harden. Sand with 150 sandpaper then 220 then 320 & polish it if need be.
For this vid we used items that can be found by most at home and at popular hardware stores:
- resin (all will work, clear is better, surfboard rez is best)
- resin hardener
- household sugar
- fiberglass
- 40, 100, 150, 220 grit sandpaper, 220 wet dry sandpaper (300/400 for gloss finish)
- plastic cup
- brush to apply resin mix
- masking tape
- utility knife
- scissors
- popsicle sticks
- acetone/paint thinner to clean your brush
- someone here mentioned using gloves for additional safety
Nice vid buddy, But sugar! Why!
haha it's what we had on hand, point of the vid is to be able to repair your board with items you might already have lying around. Qcell is ideal.
Thanks! No need to worry about such details, fill in with filler and sand down as shown in video, then apply fiberglass and sand as shown. As shown at the end of the video the rail has no "protrusions".
@TheWilliam1g as the vid shows you will need multiple grits of sandpaper, resin, hardener, fiberglass, tape, sugar (for filler element) and as someone mentioned here some gloves if u r sensitive to the resin solution
The best tutorial on RUclips! Helped me out a lot, thankyou :)
@MaikiVu the hardener usually omes with the resin in an epoxy kit. Loctite and Kwik Kick offer Epoxy kits. Usually available at your local hardware store next to the resin and fiberglass.
EPOXY NOTE: You can fix a poly board with epoxy, but you can't fix a epoxy board with poly cause you will melt the Styrofoam. Epoxy takes a lot longer to do and cost more. So if it is not a epoxy there is no need in using it. Most boards will say on them if they are epoxy.
Why are there no other videos on this channel? This one is great!
Thanks Jack, that was our plan but just never got around to it.
Thanks man! This really helped me out with my own repair!
right on Dave!
Two last questions: How many parts of filler, resin, and hardener work best? And what exactly is "hardener" called in a hardware store and where should I look for it? This video is perfect. Going to try it out this weekend and will share results.
Review the video from :55-1:30 and I think that will answer your questions. We found our resin and hardener in our local hardware store and the filler (sugar) in our pantry. You can also ask for Q-Cell in your local surf shop if you would rather not use sugar...however we found sugar gives your surfing that extra "jolt" ( ; Yep, let us know how it turns out!
@@repairyoursurfboard Is it powdered sugar...!
Mainly depends on how much water your board has taken on and how much you are able to dry out. Regarding the suggested repair material the weight gain associated with localized repair job will be negligible.
Thanks man was a bit wary about fixing my own board but now I think I'll give it a crack
(resp. by Levy Surf Designs) Do the same as the video. Use surfboard resin so it will come out clear and clean.
The hot coat is the mixture created in the cup..."hot" for the chemical reaction that takes place.
@lucychoov a popsicle stick can substitute for your finger if you are worried about the resin
Glad to hear we helped save another surfboard from a landfill as well as some money in your pocket!
Yes, clear resin will make the patch less noticeable.
thanks man, fixed overnight and ready to go!
repair time varies on your experience and the size of the job...basic ding repair as shown should prob take around an hour to do.
@Austraman not exactly sure what car resin is, we recommend using Silmar surf resin.
We figured most self repair is done without immediate access to specialized products like clear resin, hence us gathering all needed product for the video at the local repair store which only had brown resin available.
@johnraffaghello yep, in this case we were trying to demonstrate repair with commonly found household items like sugar
Excellent to the point video
Thanks conoco, we made it as short as possible for sure!
Argh kind hard getting the finish right with resin tinted board! Even with 500 grit wet sanding still doesn’t match the original sanded coat!
Hey Air Ron. Yes, that's tough even for experienced guys. Should be able to match the surface of the rest of your board if you gradually go from low grit (80/100/150) to high grit sand paper (220, 400) then finish it off with some 800/1000 wet dry. Feels counterintuitive to sand your board in order to smooth it out I know but give it a shot as I describe and you'll see the magic. If you've got a gloss coat (not a sanded finish coat) use some surfboard polish to give it back that shine. Matching tints can be done as well, we use resin tint from FoamEZ.
glad it worked out, tails can be tricky!
Love your work!
Just what i was after!
Hey can you give us a list of the supplies we would need to fix a board?
use a much thicker fill, and dont use brown resin
I have a ding on my board just like yours on the rail but a small chunk of foam is missing where the ding is. What is the best way to fill in the foam area. Also does it matter wheather your surfboard is polly or epoxy and can you use the same materials while repairing it. My surfboard is old (very yellow) and I can't tell what it is.
glad we're able to help keep you in the water!
Great video! One question: How long does everything need to dry before sanding and going to the next phase? So first the filler, then the fiberglass, and then the coat.
Thanks! Depends on the environment the repair cures in, if you read the specs on the resin it will give you dry times. The amt of hardener and filler you use will tweak that a little. And yes, as it pertains to this specific video, you have the steps in the correct order.
Awesome vid, i have a crack ini my board of about 2 inches, how would I repair this? Would I still need to do everything in the video? A friend of mine mentioned Solarez, would that work?
could someone explain what a hot coat is. Or what it does?
a hot coat is a layer of resin applied to the laminated fiberglass, fills in the fiberglass "weave" where there may be gaps ensuring a solid fiberglass coat, smooth finish, and no leaks.
hi can you please tell me what you used? i really don't want 2 spend a bunch of $.. i have like 3 boards i need to fix.. and i would have to use like 3 tubes. of sun cure.
@david8837 If you don't use hardener/catalyst, your resin won't
harden and you can't complete your surfboard repair job
What type of resin is best, is the resin used for cars any good?
instead of sugar you can chop up your fiberglass real fine
Is it really nessecary to go through all these steps? Usually I'll just put suncure on a minor ding, let it dry and file it down the sandpaper. Is that enough? Or is it mandatory to use fiberglass cloth? What are the potential complications?
Suncure is great for minor dings, however the repair area in the video was not minor. If you have not done a repair job like the one in the video there will be a little learning curve, however it is not that hard to do, just go for it!
minus not using gloves with toxic stuff, good video now tweak and use protection :-)
True dat Jamie our bad! Mask and goggles when sanding, mask and gloves when wrapping.
Great tutorial!
so, you only use filler in the first mix, thereafter, you use the resin and the hardner without the filler?
Correct, no filler needed to apply the fiberglass.
Best video ever.
Thanks Jaron! we think so too!
So, if I wanna, or im forced to, save money, what are the consequences of using the brown, marine resin instead of the clear one; here where I live the clear stuff is rather expensive. Thanks.
marine resin does not dry clear so would would see the patch
and this is called old school bra....before leashes and 3 fins, they fixed em just like you guys.....(..tho I never did know about sugar.!!!)...thanx for the reminder on how many drops of hardener per oz. of resin....now I can go fix my SUP paddle blade...all busted up ....
right on Jack! The premise of the video is to make people aware of the fact that you can easily repair your own boards with stuff you already have lying around (ie. sugar). If you have the time and resources to get better filler, resin, etc that is great too!
thanks man, great video!
Pro job.
@DrummerNelly right on!
excelent video!
We have found that going through the steps we described in the video has proven more effective than solarez.
Can i use the resin that is used to repare fiberglass boats?
Yes, that is what we used, albeit it's more than necessary, but does the job. For this video we wanted to employ products you cold pickup quickly if you didn't have time to wait to find some typical 4 oz fiberglass (or 6 oz for longboards).
Sorry if this has been answered but will this technique work for Epoxy boards as well? Thanks
EPOXY NOTE: You can fix a poly board with epoxy, but you can't fix a epoxy board with poly cause you will melt the Styrofoam. Epoxy takes a lot longer to do and cost more. So if it is not a epoxy there is no need in using it. Most boards will say on them if they are epoxy. We may come out with an Epoxy repair vid soon, sorry!
Thanks for the video 🤙🏾
No problem 👍
whats the filler? are those Q cells? if i dont have the "filler" can i use Resin + Sugar + harderner for the filling?
i am repairing a small dislodged on the rail of my nose.
yes, just as we show in the video you can make your own filler out of sugar, resin, and hardener. Also as others here have pointed out there are other fillers that offer benefits over sugar...in the case of the video it was the filler we had available at the time and works well in a pinch.
thanks
+repairyoursurfboard
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right on!
I try doing mine at home and seems like there's a substance that's eating away the foam inside my board :/
Hi Cleo, sorry for the late reply, if your board has been damaged for a while exposing the foam to the elements it will deteriorate. Just fill in the gap(s) left behind with filler. First repair job will be a bit of a learning experience (usually at what NOT to do), but don't fret, you will get better at it each time!
I have a board that is kinda older so it has a tan/brown tinge to it... how should I try to color mach?
the resin you can buy at your local hardware store will have that tinge to it. We have not experimented with manipulating resin colors. Surfboard resin will dry clear.
if i wanted to buy a made "filler", what would you recommend?
Kendal Stovall (resp. by Levy Surf Designs) You can buy sun cure in a tube, it has fillers in it. Also it kicks in 30 seconds in the sun.
will it work just as well as the mixture you made?
+Kendal Stovall Use Sun Cure Ultra White filler, the Best
Use bloody glows when you play with fibreglass!!!
Yes, our bad! Def use a mask when sanding and gloves when mixing and applying the resin!
Hell yeah thanks dude dude!!
Right on Ray!
this "hardner" does it have a name? Im norwegian
thanks - great vid
@tuttles78 let us know how it goes!
Great video!...Can I use Bondo Fiberglass resin at HomeDepot? It comes in a 1 quart tin can container. Thanks.
(resp. by Levy Surf Designs) You can use that resin if it is a polyester board. If it is a epoxy you cannot. That resin comes out brown and your board will look like crap. Go to a surf shop and get a repair kit or a qt of resin. That will come out clear.
+Elliot Chu NOO, go to your local surfshop and get Ding All products
Yep you can use any resin, however the stuff you buy from hardware stores is normally going to dry brown and might be a little heavier than resin specific to surfboard repair.
@tuttles78 killer. feel free to email us pictures of your repair job for our Hall of Fame (coming soon)
so can i just not use fiberglass??
No you need a bonding agent...in this case resin + hardener. We used granulated sugar in the absence of Qcell for filler.
I bought a "Sun Cure Ding All" kit. is that stuff any good?
DreamWarrior Depends on your preparation of the area you are repairing, clean it out, prep it with some sand paper so the resin has something to latch onto.
yea Im just going back and repairing a few small cracks less than an inch that were repaired poorly before. I dont think I need to use the fiberglass cloth cause they are so small but this is my first time repairing. thanks for answering, bud
DreamWarrior yup, cloth sounds overkill...remove a bit of the fiberglass and foam at the crack so the resin can fill in a bit and latch. Remember to make sure board is dry and repair in the shade!
repairyoursurfboard
sounds like the best plan. thanks again!
+DreamWarrior Yes, Sun Cure is the Best!
wow, loads of steps... nice vid though :)
@88madmax88 right on
NOOO, don't use that brown resin, use Ding All resin or Sun Cure
Yep, we know, point of the video though was how to quickly repair a board with items you might already have lying around. Clear resin would be ideal.We like the environmentally-friendlier (bio-based) Super Sap ONE resin + hardener.
Sugar?
Wow I did mine completley wrong ahahahaha
Practice makes perfect! Joe and Dave have been doing it for years and each repair offers new challenges.
#Nice
I'm in Ohio where do I buy everything I need I have a long crack down the side any help would be great thanks???
As we described you can pickup everything we employed in our video at your local hardware store. If you can plan ahead get more surfboard-oriented repair material through your local surf shop or online surf reseller (Greenlight, FoamEZ, etc)
LOL @ Not using gloves
Yep, our bad, highly recommend a mask and gloves!