Pike Rods through my years of Pike fishing
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- A little chat about Pike Fishing Rods.
When I started fishing for Pike I was about 11 or 12 I fished as a junior in a local Pike match winter league on Lough Muck outside Omagh I fished for the Elpaso Bar team it was a introduction to Pike fishing.
It taught me some good things and I seen some things that even then I knew were not acceptable but it's easy to look back at fishing in the 1990s and pick faults in the tactics the gear used and the general attitudes to Pike.
Without those early days I'd not have go into Pike fishing, today Pike is my passion I love fishing for them they are the apex predator in NI and the ROI this is a brief discussion about the progression of the fishing gear I used how I started and where I am right now.
Dave lumb rods:-
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The first Pike rod I ever bought was a Shakespeare Persuit Pike Rod a 12' 3lb tc rod I think at the time it was £60 or £70 I scraped together the pennies to buy three of them and I still have two of them today I've used them as marker and spod rods.
Then I picked up some Greys Prodigy and Prowla rods that I still have and if your fishing with me these are my spares so you will get these to use, if I had to go back to using these I'd have no problem doing so. I have two models the Prodigy is a 12' 3lb tc rod and the Prowla is a 12' 3.5lb tc rod. Like I say excellent rods and not super expensive either.
Now I have Dave Lumb BB350 & D-3 rods these are custom built to my specifications. These are the rods I'm fully intending to use for the rest of my days of Pike Fishing.
The BB350 is a 12' 3.5lb tc rod and its a pleasure to play fish on great casting tool and I can put on a 4oz lead and a bait then launch it to the horizons or I can flick the same bait out into the margins and if the Pike picks it up I'm able to set the hook and play the fish to the net without fear of pulling the hooks out the fishes mouth.
The D-3 is a 13' 4lb tc rod its a big bait long range tool. I can drop baits out at distance with a baitboat then knowing full well when it comes to setting the hooks and wrestling a big old Esox to the bank.
Can you tell I'm getting excited for this year's Pike fishing season.
I actually use the Ron Thompson Evp2 Pier and Evp2 Pike. It brilliant to cast a whole makeral and very durable and super strong it nice for a beginner.
Great video Dave from a born again pike fisherman at 66 👌👌cheers and stay safe in these bad times
Cheers Chris good to hear your enjoying the videos
Fabulous presentation, hugely informative, thanks so much
No worries Les glad to hear you enjoyed the video.
Thank's mate great vid 👍👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it buddy
I remember my first pike rods,a John Watson 2/12 TC rod and two Shakespeare boron pike rods three piece jobs,reels where Ryobi sea reels,Eddie turner back biter alarms,which I upgraded from my magnatronic carp bite alarms,I love looking back at relatively old heat,great video Dave👍
I enjoyed that video it was nostalgic looking back at the old stuff I grew up using to what I've got now.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video buddy thanks for the comment.
@@DavidScobie I've binge watched a few of your vids now,I have to go back on my phone to like and comment as I watch em on the TV,no need to reply I'm not one of them subscribers who get the huff on if you don't 😁it's certainly wetting my appetite for next winter, well in Dave👍
Cool video! I still use my Shakespeare SKP pike rods and in all honesty I have never used better. Love them and it will be a sad day when they’re gone. 22 years of solid service 👌.
Hard to find something that has longevity these days buddy, I'm hoping the rods I had built for me will be something I will be using until my days are gone.
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In the late 60s/early 70s when I started pike fishing as a kid, dedicated gear was almost non-existent. The few rods that had "pike" written on them were likely to have 6 lb test curves and give you work out biceps. My first pike rod was a 10ft glass Shakespeare that stopped nodding five minutes after being laid in the rests. Beachcaster rods were not unknown for pike, live bait hung on snap-tackle was the norm, and you had to know someone who could make spoons large and heavy enough to cast. Fish care was negligible to non-existent.
Pike fishing was mainly a still water pursuit, and I don't recall seeing anyone river fishing for pike until the 1980s, though they must have done so. Angling pressure for pike was much lighter. Whenever I discover a Dave Lumb shaped gap in rod collection comprised of Fox products, I remember my nodding Shakespeare and it goes away.. until next time! Seeing your Lumby's has done nothing to help this condition!
I grew up in the 80s & 90s fishing for Pike here in NI was something that was to occupy the game fishing close season. I had to make most of my own gear, trace wire was something I pinched from a mate who tuned pianos looking back I'm amazed Pike took the baits I threw for them.
Angling for Pike has come on leaps and bounds since then thankfully, glad your enjoying the videos buddy thanks for the comment.
I was considering buying a set of the Free Spirit pike tamer rods, ,but after watching this review and reading a few others, I think I'm going to save up the extra and buy the Dave Lumb rods. Very informative video 👍
You won't regret it buddy Dave Lumb Rods are a thing of beauty mate
Excellent video David I started fishing at ten in the 60s and all the pike got killed . Thank god it not happening to day more video please 🎣👍 George in Stoke.
Cheers for the comment buddy glad your enjoying the videos.
We never had unhooking mats in the early days long grass did the job! Still have my old pike gear too primitive to nows gear! Got my old drennan pike floats too
I made my first unhooking mat out of a old gortex jacket and foam roll mat for camping, it was folded in half glued then wrapped with the two gortex jackets and sowed together. Using Piano wire for hook trace material home made drop arms and floats was a necessity because you couldn't buy it off the shelf.
Its a different game when you look at what you started out with to what's available now.
Was up fishing lower Lough Erne last week on the boat for the first time couldn’t get over the amount of big boats moving up and down it.
The boat people are a torture mate
Had loads of perch and some nice pike. Such a beautiful stretch of water
nice rods there mate ,, good review too
my history is mainly with Fox predator rods since 1997, I still own my 1st pike rods, daiwa powermesh dictatiors z, gonna make a video on them soon and talking about my 1st pike set up! and then using them 22 years later. I also had the greys prowla 12ft rods, cracking rods, but hated the reel seat, my shimano 8000 gtw used to wobble in them when playing a fish! more suited to a larger bigpit reel with a wider neck!
I had figured that you were having a scan through the playlists buddy glad to hear your enjoying the videos buddy.
Don't be scared to share them and do all the RUclips nonsense hahaha
Great stuff its interesting to see an anglers progression tackle wise i still have some original items but i sold a lot last year simply because of space cheers mate
I gave away a lot of stuff to people starting off but some stuff I kept for daft reasons like the rods being the first ones I bought.
@@DavidScobie im the the same mate ive gave stuff to pals etc ive still got two daiwa whisker carp rods i bought in the 90s they cost me silly money back then as i was skint most of the time and couldnt really afford them they are sentimental to me now
GOOD REVIEW THANK YOU
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video buddy thanks for the comment
great informative video.
The Dave Lumb BB350s are excellent long range Pike rods, I use some similar Harrison blanks if I am using my carbon rods, not sure about modern Greys rods, I have seen quite a few bad reviews on them, I still have and use a Greys Loch Leven 7ft lure rod, about 25 years old and built on a Fibatube carbon blank, top quality.
The Greys Prodigy Deadbait rods the first gen ones the 12ft 3lb tc are beautiful rods for the money, but Greys changed the design and started the Prowla range those to me felt a step down in quality the Prowla rods I owned were 12ft 3.5lb tc for some reason the eyes were tiny on the blank and it felt weird casting bigger baits with it the first few months using it the varnish on the rod round the eyes would creak and crack this scares the crap out of you when your properly loading up a cast and throwing bigger baits there's times I honestly thought the rod would disintegrate on the cast but after a few months of being used the creaking and cracking stopped and I could bully the rod.
For the money they couldn't be argued with if I'm honest and if I had to use them tomorrow I'd be perfectly happy doing so. But compared to Dave Lumb Rods it's like comparing a cheese burger to a steak the burger will feed you and you might be satisfied but it just doesn't compare to a good steak dinner man.
The pursuit was my first pike rod too. Bought from ca Anderson’s
That's where mine came from buddy I think it's where most of the pike league guys got their tackle at the time.
I have a set of Free Spirit Pike Tamer big baits in 3.5lb test, their excellent rods for the money. I think I want some Dave Lumbs now though lol
I remember you and I being laughed at for having unhooking mats and purpose made 40-inch landing nets.
We were blazing a trail back in the day buddy from home made gear to fish safety I'm confident that we didn't do any harm in those early days, we even prevented harm being done to fish.
Thankfully times have changed and Pike gags and gaffs are a think of the past for the most part.
Great vid 👍
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video buddy
Thanks for sharing. I was looking for info for what pound blank to get for a pike rod. Seems like 3lb minimum and 4lb for big baits. I was looking at some budget options for a pike-carp rod here in the USA, not many options. My family lived in England from 1983-87. My father was in the US Air force, stationed at RAF Alconbury. We loved it there, wonderful people. I hope to go back and fish the lakes and rivers of my memories there, Tight lines to you sir.
3lb test will get you through mate for most situations I've 3.5lb and 4lb test for my Pike rods amego.
@@DavidScobie thank you, I accidentally commented without finishing my thoughts.
Ah right I am not sure where would do carp type rods in the states I know there's a few Canadian Musky men who fish with live baits using 10ft heavy lure rods.
As for budget I couldn't advise amego.
Spent a lot of time with the USAF guys in different parts of the world they were all good guys couldn't drink for shit though hahaha
1992 Shakespeare Specimen Pike 11ft 2.5 TC rod...proper through action rod, had car crash in 2006 n lost them. Just recently bought one on ebay 4 nostalgia. Greys GS prowl a 11ft 2.5 Tc now...great rods for playing pike, a lot of 12 ft rods now are too tip action only, even tho they try to distinguish themselves from carp rods. Next ones will be Freespirit...they are the only ones who know how to make proper pike rods now greys have discontinued.
Carp fishing rods aren't the worst thing to use for Pike but they aren't ideal I think with the Dave Lumb BB350 series rods I've found the ideal rod for Irish Pike fishing.
@@DavidScobie 👍 yes I meant to say Dave Lumbs rods are good. The Pike in Ireland fight ridiculously hard, playing action is critical for me over there.
Hi mate, do you happen to know what year the original prodigy rods came out please or when you bought yours? I've just picked up a set that have only seen the bank twice and can't find much info on them anywhere. Cheers.
They would have came out in the early 2000s buddy I picked up mine in 2004 I think.
It was Greys first attempt at Pike gear they were Salmon and Trout rod builders before that if you have a set of Greys Prodigy with the Cork handles they are worth their weight in gold mate they are cracking rods.
Starterd of with a pair of daiwa black widow carp rods and they were the biggest pile of pish!
I then changed to the greys prowla platinums in 12ft 3lb and till this day they are the best rod I have ever used ( why I sold them I will never know 😥)
Moved onto a set of drennan Essox pike flex rods and would not recommend them at all.
So for the coming season i am going to try my new daiwa powermesh deadbait specialists in 12ft 3lb tc and see how they get on🤞
If only I could get my greys back, but couldn’t find any for sale throughout the land a tinterweb😭
Greys Prodigy deadbait rods were way ahead of there time I've still got my set of them, it was weird the Prowla rods Greys made weren't the same as the Prodigy.
Drennan esox gear wasn't something I put stock in I've never had much joy with if I'm honest.
David Scobie never sell you greys as they are one of the best ever made, I really don’t understand why greys discontinued the prowlas when they had the perfect pike rod on their hands.
2 of my drennans top sections went bang on a cast 🤬🤬 so will never have faith in them again.
I’ll give these daiwas a real good go over winter and see how they perform!
If they’re shite aswell then I’d say I’ll be heading down the custom rod route like yourself buddy
@@garymcquillanangling1690 to be honest it's like I said in my video buddy the Greys Rods will be used as spares or something if I have folk coming out fishing with me will use then when I've kids of my own they will get them to use.
But as far as rods go the Dave Lumb's rods are hard to beat.
David Scobie my eldest daughter is wanting to get into it with me this year, can’t wait to see her wee face when she gets her 1st double
@@garymcquillanangling1690 that will be awesome make sure you take plenty photos buddy
I am trying to kick start my pike fishing after 30 years working overseas and I wonder what your thoughts are regarding using carp rods for deadbaiting. I have read various pros and cons and wondered what your thoughts are.
Ian Carp rods will cope for Pike fishing you just have to operate within their limitations, but a standard 12ft 3lb test should be fine.
Throwing a 3oz lead and a tigernut is a million miles away from a 3oz lead and a 10oz mackerel tail so you have to beef up your gear to match.
I have smashed rods in the past trying to cast to heavy a load so go easy buddy until you get the feel of your gear.
Reels won't be a problem I use 10000 size shimanos baitrunners with either 20lb mono or 50lb braid.
Let me know how you get on Ian and thanks for taking the time to ask me.
What do you think of the savage gear sg2 power game rod for lure fishing?
I've the 350g one and it's a beast for throwing heavy lures mate the 9ft length gives you better casting from the bank and it's dirt cheap to buy man
@@DavidScobie that’s great to hear man, I just ordered the 8”3 70-130g one. I wouldn’t be throwing overly huge lures to go for a bigger one. Thanks for the reply mate 🙌
@@DavidScobie actually just have one more question. What reel would you recommend to pair with this rod? Every reel I’ve been recommended is 200+ quid, maybe in the future I can go all out for a proper set up but for now a reel for around 80-100 wild be ideal if that’s possible
The one I have on the rod is a Piscifun Alijoz 300 reel and for 60 quid I can't fault it mate.
I started fishing for pike when I was 12 aswell
We all got to start some time amego it's all about enjoying the journey from learning to where we are now.