Roger McGuinn is a national treasure. His contributions are still very underrated, what he attempted to do in the mid-60's still not fully appreciated. And he just seems like a truly chill and good dude. It's crazy that he's on twitter and actually interacts with the fans! Brilliant guy.
Absolutely amazing! Roger McGuinn is ageless , he is 81 ! The early stories are incredible , the show business connections are just not typical for Rock stars of the era . I have been following him from Mr.Tambourine man in the beginning, 1965 but it started way before that for him! Thanks great interview….
I have always admired RM for his musicianship, but hearing him open up and sharing so much about what happened in his life, my attitude toward him has softened.
This interview is a gift to music lovers everywhere. McGuinn is a legend, and Rick steers the conversation in wonderfully insightful directions. Thank you for this!
Great interview of a music legend. Rick really knows how to probe and allow Roger to open up - he has so much knowledge and experience to communicate. Roger McGuinn sounds ageless.
Roger McGuinn has not open up like this before in his interviews. Rick Rubin encourages & inspires McGuinn to share about his spiritual life, songwriting, relationships with the individual Byrds, Tom Petty and others. Wonderful!
This was a fantastic interview. I am a big fan of Roger. TBH he seemed a bit reluctant to give Gene Clark his due. He might not have become Elvis but “No Other” is a frickin’ masterpiece. Sadly it was not promoted properly and so was basically ignored. And “White Light” ain’t far behind. Most of you here have probably heard those LPs but if not check them out. Clark was a helluva songwriter. And of course together they were magic!
Agreed. Dillard and Clark is also phenomenal. Though McGuinn's own mid 70s solo stuff is pretty decent when he went more country rock style. Not as good as both early byrds folk rock, mid byrds psych, or late byrds country but worthwhile nonetheless
Very cool to get some of the greats of our time well documented in conversation as my generation moves on inexorably to the next level of consciousness. It's important because guys like Rodger (and you) are a bridge between eras.
met McGuinn in 1991 in Raliegh, N.C. playing with a band called the Headlights(maybe the Headlamps) McGuinn did a Byrds thing with them he was great and then he came out solo with his Martin 12-string and killed it...he did things from his solo stuff up to Back from Rio...this was at the Rialto theater(old movie theater) then got him to sign my vinyl lp's Mr. Tambourine Man- The Byrds and his 1st solo lp- Roger McGuinn he was real friendly I was knocked out(i put him up there with all the biggies from the 60's)just a real great guy...i asked him about Gram and Clarence and he was real open about them... i've played and sung for 50+yrs. and he's definitely one of my musical hero's... I even wrote a song called "All Folked Up" and the 1st line is "wish i had a 12-string guitar and could play like old McGuinn...I'd sing a song 'bout JESUS then Blowin' in the Wind...I'd shake a Tambourine man..then fly Eight miles high..I'd feel a whole lot better like a Byrd up in the sky...so thar ya go!! GOD BLESS Roger McGuinn and all ya"ll...M. Skinner
Roger’s style is so natural, ‘matter of fact’ talking about the early days in the Village and LA like it was 10 or 15 years ago. If you did an hour interview and only got up to like ‘66-‘67, how many interviews would it require to catch up to present day? Wish we could hear the music cuts in the narrative.
i love the Byrds 1st Album and 5th Dimension Album . one of the finest american 60s bands . the sound of the electric twelve string Rickenbacker guitar is heavenly . the Byrds were the ultimate band to drop a tab of good LSD and hear Dylan songs and songs written by McGuinn , Gene Clark, David Crosby and Chris Hillman .
What an amazing interview-one of Rick’s best! I do want to point out a gap in the story (even though I wasn’t there first hand...) Columbia Records DID have a genuine Rock and Roll Band before The Byrds: Paul Revere and the Raiders Who ALMOST had the hit single version-on Columbia-with “Louie Louie”, before Mitch Miller (who was the stick-in-the-mud at Columbia that Roger McGuinn didn’t mention by name) had the record pulled, and The Kingsmen version became the hit. Also, Terry Melcher (mentioned by Roger McGuinn in the interview) cut his teeth as a producer with The Raiders, and he and Mark Lindsay (Raiders lead singer) were great friends and lived together at 10050 Cielo Drive (an INFAMOUS location). Because of their GOOFY dress and T.V. stardom, and shift to pure Bubblegum at the same time Cream and other heavier groups were breaking, The Raiders do not get anywhere near the respect they should IMHO. It was SO NICE to see Quentin Tarantino make The Raiders such an integral part of the plot of “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”, which makes sense when you google “Terry Melcher 10050 Cielo Drive”! Hmmmmmm, maybe it would be nice for Rick to have Mark Lindsay on the show; but in the meantime, Mark currently has a show on SiriusXM called “American Revolution”
I don't get your comparison. McGuinn and Dylan never collaborated as far as I know. McGuinn obviously gave great readings of Dylan songs, and had writing credits on awesome tunes, and Dylan's writing (enough said), whereas Lennon/McCartney was cut from a cloth all their own, and did more for music of their generation than anyone else.
@@NytronXIf, if, if... Dylan was a huge and comparable force on his own. Maybe Paul Simon, Ray Davies, Pete Townshend are comparable to L & M. Jagger & Richards, they are comparable. CSNY. John Phillips maybe. Smokey Robinson. Sorry but McGuinn is not at this level as a songwriter, but few are. The Byrds' great contribution was their vocals and the fusion of folk and rock. The use of the Ric 12 string as the up-front signature sound was a bold choice and totally worked. Where'd he get that from? George Harrison. McGuinn is truly great but not sure this effort to bootstrap him into the upper stratosphere is credible.
@@harveycan5820 He became aware that there was a new 12 string electric available by seeing Harrison with one, but McGuinn had been playing a 12 string for years - all that folk background. What he did with the Ric 12 string was totally unique and groundbreaking, almost the sound of the 60's (in a way). One should not downplay that accomplishment (his style of playing didn't come from Harrison). Sure, as songwriters, Lennon and McCartney and Dylan were at the top of the game. Personally, during that period The Byrds were my favorite (they had a mystical thing). I loved the Beatles - they were the greatest band of all time - but McGuinn and the Byrds flew high in my imagination and in the spirit of the times. Comparing anyone to The Beatles, as song writers, is not wise.
@@harveycan5820 We do pay the song fees and you can hear the episode in full on any regular podcast service. However, the fees don't cover RUclips and we don't want the whole interview to get blocked on here. Enjoy! :)
Yeah great interview but I wish they would have left the music in rather than putting that the swoosh sound in.... But call Great interview Rick Rubin man produced a lot of my heroes and then some🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😢
You mean he sounds like he has half a sandwich in his mouth during the interview? hahaha. He also sleeps on the couch while artist make albums and then he takes the credit.
The 2 reasons why gene clark left are true. He can not fly so he can not tour as byrds member so he has to go solo. That way he can manage himself and his fears
If all you are going to do is "Pfwwwt" every few minutes, then save your pennies up and pay the "Pfwwwt" Fairy her royalties and play the dog-gonned songs!!!!!!!
It’s explained at the beginning. It’s Becuase of copyright. He’s playing riffs from real songs. Algo rhythm of evil online will cause them trouble if they leave it in. 2023 sucks
Really - well Roger is also a Christian, you know. You're not going to say now that this makes Roger a racist, are you? By the way, Chris Hillman is also a Christian , so your disbelief is doubled.
@@92ninersboy Ben Carson is an embarrassing moron who said the pyramids were used to store grain in biblical times, among many other dumb things. I think it's kind of pathetic the way lots of these guys who used to do drugs back in the 60s and 70s find Jesus and become right-wing Christians in their later years. As much as a jerk as David Crosby could be, at least he didn't turn away from the ideals he espoused in the 60s.
Most artists don't (say they) vote for Democrat or Republican Nominees. Since most artists march to the beats of different drums, they tend to think outside the box and therefore do not remain within the confines of the two-party system constituting the modern American government.
Believe it or not, musicians don’t have to be liberal to be great. As far as supporting Ben Carson, he’s the most decent and intelligent human being ever to grace a major political stage. Truly a good and selfless person.
@@stormbringercoming8105 Ben Carson is a fool who said the pyramids were used to store grain in ancient times...among many other dumb things he's said.
Roger McGuinn is a national treasure. His contributions are still very underrated, what he attempted to do in the mid-60's still not fully appreciated. And he just seems like a truly chill and good dude. It's crazy that he's on twitter and actually interacts with the fans! Brilliant guy.
Yes: "Roger McGuinn is a national treasure."
Absolutely amazing! Roger McGuinn is ageless , he is 81 ! The early stories are incredible , the show business connections are just not typical for Rock stars of the era . I have been following him from Mr.Tambourine man in the beginning, 1965 but it started way before that for him! Thanks great interview….
I have always admired RM for his musicianship, but hearing him open up and sharing so much about what happened in his life, my attitude toward him has softened.
This interview is a gift to music lovers everywhere. McGuinn is a legend, and Rick steers the conversation in wonderfully insightful directions. Thank you for this!
Where can one find the full version with songs.....link should be here...this is historic!
Great interview of a music legend. Rick really knows how to probe and allow Roger to open up - he has so much knowledge and experience to communicate. Roger McGuinn sounds ageless.
Roger McGuinn has not open up like this before in his interviews. Rick Rubin encourages & inspires McGuinn to share about his spiritual life, songwriting, relationships with the individual Byrds, Tom Petty and others. Wonderful!
A wonderful interview. I always enjoy Rick’s interviews because he lives the life of a musician and producer.
Fabulous interview with a living legend. Loving all of these dives into such rich musical history,
This was a fantastic interview. I am a big fan of Roger. TBH he seemed a bit reluctant to give Gene Clark his due. He might not have become Elvis but “No Other” is a frickin’ masterpiece. Sadly it was not promoted properly and so was basically ignored. And “White Light” ain’t far behind. Most of you here have probably heard those LPs but if not check them out. Clark was a helluva songwriter. And of course together they were magic!
Agreed. Dillard and Clark is also phenomenal. Though McGuinn's own mid 70s solo stuff is pretty decent when he went more country rock style. Not as good as both early byrds folk rock, mid byrds psych, or late byrds country but worthwhile nonetheless
Very cool to get some of the greats of our time well documented in conversation as my generation moves on inexorably to the next level of consciousness. It's important because guys like Rodger (and you) are a bridge between eras.
met McGuinn in 1991 in Raliegh, N.C. playing with a band called the Headlights(maybe the Headlamps) McGuinn did a Byrds thing with them he was great and then he came out solo with his Martin 12-string and killed it...he did things from his solo stuff up to Back from Rio...this was at the Rialto theater(old movie theater) then got him to sign my vinyl lp's Mr. Tambourine Man- The Byrds and his 1st solo lp- Roger McGuinn he was real friendly I was knocked out(i put him up there with all the biggies from the 60's)just a real great guy...i asked him about Gram and Clarence and he was real open about them... i've played and sung for 50+yrs. and he's definitely one of my musical hero's... I even wrote a song called "All Folked Up" and the 1st line is "wish i had a 12-string guitar and could play like old McGuinn...I'd sing a song 'bout JESUS then Blowin' in the Wind...I'd shake a Tambourine man..then fly Eight miles high..I'd feel a whole lot better like a Byrd up in the sky...so thar ya go!! GOD BLESS Roger McGuinn and all ya"ll...M. Skinner
A fascinating interview.
Roger’s style is so natural, ‘matter of fact’ talking about the early days in the Village and LA like it was 10 or 15 years ago. If you did an hour interview and only got up to like ‘66-‘67, how many interviews would it require to catch up to present day? Wish we could hear the music cuts in the narrative.
Excellent.
Roger will be playing at Eric Claptons Guitar Festival in L.A later in the year
i love the Byrds 1st Album and 5th Dimension Album .
one of the finest american 60s bands . the sound of the electric twelve string Rickenbacker guitar is heavenly . the Byrds were the ultimate band to drop a tab of good LSD and hear Dylan songs and songs written by McGuinn , Gene Clark, David Crosby and Chris Hillman .
This is an engaging, enjoyable conversation; Rick is an impressive interviewer! But the too-often overlooked Chris Hillman remains... overlooked ;-)
Have you read Chris Hillman's memoir, Time Between: My Life As a Byrd, Burrito Brother, and Beyond?
Great interview Rick really enjoyed it ! 😎🎶
McGuinn is one of musical heroes! The BYRDS my Beatles.
17:59 thats ahhhmazin...so sincere and real sounding..
Very good, thanks. Was hoping for some mention of Gram Parsons.Those edits were tough, but I guess unavoidable.
His advice to Roger at the end of this described exactly what Roger did with hey Mr tambourine Man 60 years ago.
Thanks Broken Record ✌️
This was excellent.
Mcguinns voice is very impressive. He still seems to hit those high notes.
Thanks - delightful and ensightful interview
72 little bars... for some reason i count them every time.. there is 72, then it starts again. great interview as always.
What an amazing interview-one of Rick’s best!
I do want to point out a gap in the story (even though I wasn’t there first hand...)
Columbia Records DID have a genuine Rock and Roll Band before The Byrds:
Paul Revere and the Raiders
Who ALMOST had the hit single version-on Columbia-with “Louie Louie”, before Mitch Miller (who was the stick-in-the-mud at Columbia that Roger McGuinn didn’t mention by name) had the record pulled, and The Kingsmen version became the hit.
Also, Terry Melcher (mentioned by Roger McGuinn in the interview) cut his teeth as a producer with The Raiders, and he and Mark Lindsay (Raiders lead singer) were great friends and lived together at 10050 Cielo Drive (an INFAMOUS location).
Because of their GOOFY dress and T.V. stardom, and shift to pure Bubblegum at the same time Cream and other heavier groups were breaking, The Raiders do not get anywhere near the respect they should IMHO.
It was SO NICE to see Quentin Tarantino make The Raiders such an integral part of the plot of “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”, which makes sense when you google “Terry Melcher 10050 Cielo Drive”!
Hmmmmmm, maybe it would be nice for Rick to have Mark Lindsay on the show; but in the meantime, Mark currently has a show on SiriusXM called “American Revolution”
loved the Raiders, maybe not quite at the byrds level but great stuff. kicks, hungry, steppin out, thanks for the post
Great interview but sad that Roger’s guitar demos were cut.
What Louvin Brothers song? Thank you.
“I Like the Christian Life.” It's on Sweetheart.
Please, please interview Pete Townsend 🙏💖
U enjoy listening to child predators
What where the fredick something books you mentioned?
Wish we could have heard more about his pot and lsd experiences ✌😊
The edits in this interview of names and songs etc is really frustrating for the listener. Who wouldn't know that????
Wait a minute, they're censoring the NAMES of songs??
V E R Y Agravating!!!
Please interview Jeff Lynne about the making of Tom Petty 's "Full Moon Fever". A deep inside look please! ❤this channel...
Roger McGuinn + Bob Dylan were as powerful of a force as Lennon-McCartney. I wish they properly squaded up
I don't get your comparison. McGuinn and Dylan never collaborated as far as I know. McGuinn obviously gave great readings of Dylan songs, and had writing credits on awesome tunes, and Dylan's writing (enough said), whereas Lennon/McCartney was cut from a cloth all their own, and did more for music of their generation than anyone else.
@@mcdaniels6188 I'm saying if Dylan and McGuinn formed a group, it could have been as great as Lennon McCartney potentially. We'll never know.
@@NytronXIf, if, if... Dylan was a huge and comparable force on his own. Maybe Paul Simon, Ray Davies, Pete Townshend are comparable to L & M. Jagger & Richards, they are comparable. CSNY. John Phillips maybe. Smokey Robinson. Sorry but McGuinn is not at this level as a songwriter, but few are. The Byrds' great contribution was their vocals and the fusion of folk and rock. The use of the Ric 12 string as the up-front signature sound was a bold choice and totally worked. Where'd he get that from? George Harrison. McGuinn is truly great but not sure this effort to bootstrap him into the upper stratosphere is credible.
@@harveycan5820 Don't forget Syd, Waters, and Page.
@@harveycan5820 He became aware that there was a new 12 string electric available by seeing Harrison with one, but McGuinn had been playing a 12 string for years - all that folk background. What he did with the Ric 12 string was totally unique and groundbreaking, almost the sound of the 60's (in a way). One should not downplay that accomplishment (his style of playing didn't come from Harrison). Sure, as songwriters, Lennon and McCartney and Dylan were at the top of the game. Personally, during that period The Byrds were my favorite (they had a mystical thing). I loved the Beatles - they were the greatest band of all time - but McGuinn and the Byrds flew high in my imagination and in the spirit of the times. Comparing anyone to The Beatles, as song writers, is not wise.
George Clinton now this 🔥🔥🔥
I would kill to see an interview with Steve Howe or Jon Anderson of yes or Leo kottke
What's up with all the edits? What are we missing?
We're missing Roger playing parts of songs. I guess they don't want to pay royalties.
@@harveycan5820 We do pay the song fees and you can hear the episode in full on any regular podcast service. However, the fees don't cover RUclips and we don't want the whole interview to get blocked on here. Enjoy! :)
@@justinrichmond9652 Do it ALL, or NONE AT ALL!
👂 🌎
Down to Rog and Chris sadly
Yeah great interview but I wish they would have left the music in rather than putting that the swoosh sound in.... But call Great interview Rick Rubin man produced a lot of my heroes and then some🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😢
Rick "The Sandwich" Rubin
You mean he sounds like he has half a sandwich in his mouth during the interview? hahaha. He also sleeps on the couch while artist make albums and then he takes the credit.
The 2 reasons why gene clark left are true. He can not fly so he can not tour as byrds member so he has to go solo. That way he can manage himself and his fears
Ray Davies?
rick rubin's voice is grating.. and his interviews are hard to listen to. really wanted to watch this, but can't get through it.
I hate his editing! Every few minutes there will be a "Pfwwwt!" where he obviously couldn't affford to pay a royalty, very poorly done!!
If all you are going to do is "Pfwwwt" every few minutes, then save your pennies up and pay the "Pfwwwt" Fairy her royalties and play the dog-gonned songs!!!!!!!
Who the heck is Rick "Pfwwwt"?
Am I the only one hearing these extremely bizarre edits?
would be way cooler to hear the guitar bits instead of cutaways
It’s explained at the beginning. It’s Becuase of copyright. He’s playing riffs from real songs. Algo rhythm of evil online will cause them trouble if they leave it in. 2023 sucks
It sucks... Corporate censorship... Unfreedom... To dance beneath the diamond sky...
@@harveycan5820 I don't live in AmeriKKKa, so why am I being affected by their corporate people? American people are so depressing.
@@dweber4 You can hear the episode in full with the guitar bits intact on any regular podcast service (not RUclips). Enjoy! :)
Can't believe Roger supported Ben Carson for president. Ugh...
Really - well Roger is also a Christian, you know. You're not going to say now that this makes Roger a racist, are you? By the way, Chris Hillman is also a Christian , so your disbelief is doubled.
@@92ninersboy Ben Carson is an embarrassing moron who said the pyramids were used to store grain in biblical times, among many other dumb things. I think it's kind of pathetic the way lots of these guys who used to do drugs back in the 60s and 70s find Jesus and become right-wing Christians in their later years. As much as a jerk as David Crosby could be, at least he didn't turn away from the ideals he espoused in the 60s.
Most artists don't (say they) vote for Democrat or Republican Nominees. Since most artists march to the beats of different drums, they tend to think outside the box and therefore do not remain within the confines of the two-party system constituting the modern American government.
Believe it or not, musicians don’t have to be liberal to be great. As far as supporting Ben Carson, he’s the most decent and intelligent human being ever to grace a major political stage. Truly a good and selfless person.
@@stormbringercoming8105 Ben Carson is a fool who said the pyramids were used to store grain in ancient times...among many other dumb things he's said.
Protôols sucks - What the heĺl happened to you guys?😊