Thanks Tim, I appreciate that! It’s amazing how long even editing takes! The top box is one I’ll need to get back to you on once I see what’s out there! I’m quite excited with the Lone Rider range! The adventure weekend I was in last week nearly everyone was on soft luggage and we discussed the pros and cons of each! Once fitted, I’ll get another video done with them on 😀
I fitted Lonerider Motobags and an Overlander topcase to my R1250GSA some years ago after damaging one of the OEM BMW hard cases on a European tour after slightly clipping a stationary truck when filtering. The Motobags are excellent with some caveats. They are very robust and can be made semi rigid with an insert and unlike other soft bags (eg Bumot Xtremada) they are waterproof and can be locked to the pannier frame. On the downside they are not quite as large as the OEM hard cases, at least on the 1250GSA, and they are a PITA to open and close. If/when I do get a 1300GSA, I will certainly transfer the Lonerider bags assuming Lonerider come out with an attachment system which I'm sure they will
They do indeed have a new frame for the 1300! I’ve just got it, fitted it and done a trip with them! Currently editing the video but you can see what they look like on the bike! They are indeed 100% waterproof as I rode through a storm in them!
Thing is, I don’t want luggage carriers ruining the looks of my bike. Also I’m riding to Bratislava very soon and have no option but to use my vario cases. What I want is a guarantee that They will replace my cases next year even though I have continued to use the old ones. I will find some proper suitable straps in the meantime and that will be at my expense.
My initial problem started when I went to remove the pannier and the locking mechanism snapped inside the case, just watch for that as it’s happened a few times and it locks the key in place and only brute force can remove it sadly!
Same here, @Scratcher2860 - the vario luggage was very attractive to me because no scaffolding was needed. Fortunately I don't need them that often, so I'll wait until the new bags come out before making a decision on what I'm going to do.
OMG, wrapping a strap around the pannier is what we had to do with BMW’s in the late 1970’s to keep the bags from falling off do to the latch at the back filling up with road grit and not securing the pannier. Sounds like a case of “back to the future” 🤨.
its a shame this pannier debacle is sort of taking the shine of the 1300 ..i took my hard luggage of my 1250 (Bumot ) and transferred it to my 1300 they are great quality..but if i was buying new id perhaps go for the lone rider kit as well .
I bought the bike so I could take the panniers on and off, and keep the lines clean and not have a cages sitting on the bike to take third party ones on! That’s why I opted for this bike! That’s not to include the issues I continue to have with this bike. Massively disappointed with the bike and Douglas Park Motorrad have been absolutely woeful considering how many bikes I have bought from them over the course of the years, not doing anything to assist
I’m on the west coast of Scotland and I use Tayside motorrad who have been first class through the whole issue. I’ve heard some horror stories which is why Dundee was my chosen dealer!
Reject the whole bike as not fit for purpose we still have the EU laws in place so they must accept or be taken to court, report failures to the DVSA as a dangerous fault if they open on the motorway the contents spilling out could cause an accident, do not put up with BMWs excuses they know about the issue but have made the sale so do not care. BMW UK is in Fleet Hampshire so pay a personal visit.
Get Bumot luggage instead...works brilliantly, simple and well made and you can use them on different bikes,,,just buy a new rack...never buy own brand boxes.
A friend has them on this adventure! I’ve got the Lone Rider Motobags to try, soft luggage but they seem really well built and sturdy! I’ll let you know how I get on!
The OLD bags Have a recall for falling off as well so there not an option I loss one and they would not accept that it fall off on its own, but then loads more had the issue and still no refund, or new options moved to softbags instead.
Shad made the previous Varios! They should have maybe been used to build the 1300s as well…. I’ve went for the LoneRider set up with the Motobags! I’ll let you know how I get on with them!
@Motoscotty love them because when empty, they don't protude, and you can expand them a lot to load them up. Also, when moving the bike in the garage, or when getting my leg up to hop on the bike, I don't kick a hard surface! And they look good too! Since the racks are simetric, the bike looks balanced from the rear.
Blame Touratech, but BMW is the one that will get all the hate. I read Shad made the Vario cases and BMW should’ve just had them make the cases for the 1300 also.
Och nothing new here pertaining to BMW most models have been released with lack of development,I’ll stick to my R1100rs now with 500,000 kms and yes had issues with it too mainly fixed by me. Good luck.
Road touring/ hotels prefer hard boxes. Part off-road touring/ wild camping prefer Mosko Moto. Drop the bike off-roading (as you will) all energy absorbed by soft luggage no damage done. Drop the bike on tarmac? Time to wake up.
To be fair, the bike has been faultless and that’s with 6000 miles on it so far and another 2000 planned in the next fortnight! Sadly the panniers seem to be my only issue!
Threaten BMW UK with court action as it is a danger to other road users if they open when riding use the courts if you need to they are based at BMW UK Fleet Hampshire. We are still part of the EU sale of goods so reject the whole bike if less than 2 years old as not fit for purpose use your rights before labour steps in to protect EU company's from prosecution.
Sounds like another great BMW cockup.They are good at those.
Thankfully a good dealer sorted out a refund, new panniers have arrived from LoneRider which will be getting tested tomorrow!
So a problem with the panniers as well as rear suspension. Excellent
Just seen the rear suspension, thankfully mine is ok. For now.....
Will be interesting to hear your thoughts on what top box you go for.
I have used SW Motech for years. Great useful video by the way.
Thanks Tim, I appreciate that! It’s amazing how long even editing takes! The top box is one I’ll need to get back to you on once I see what’s out there! I’m quite excited with the Lone Rider range! The adventure weekend I was in last week nearly everyone was on soft luggage and we discussed the pros and cons of each! Once fitted, I’ll get another video done with them on 😀
I fitted Lonerider Motobags and an Overlander topcase to my R1250GSA some years ago after damaging one of the OEM BMW hard cases on a European tour after slightly clipping a stationary truck when filtering. The Motobags are excellent with some caveats. They are very robust and can be made semi rigid with an insert and unlike other soft bags (eg Bumot Xtremada) they are waterproof and can be locked to the pannier frame. On the downside they are not quite as large as the OEM hard cases, at least on the 1250GSA, and they are a PITA to open and close. If/when I do get a 1300GSA, I will certainly transfer the Lonerider bags assuming Lonerider come out with an attachment system which I'm sure they will
They do indeed have a new frame for the 1300! I’ve just got it, fitted it and done a trip with them! Currently editing the video but you can see what they look like on the bike! They are indeed 100% waterproof as I rode through a storm in them!
Thing is, I don’t want luggage carriers ruining the looks of my bike. Also I’m riding to Bratislava very soon and have no option but to use my vario cases. What I want is a guarantee that They will replace my cases next year even though I have continued to use the old ones. I will find some proper suitable straps in the meantime and that will be at my expense.
My initial problem started when I went to remove the pannier and the locking mechanism snapped inside the case, just watch for that as it’s happened a few times and it locks the key in place and only brute force can remove it sadly!
@@Motoscotty I’m being very careful
Same here, @Scratcher2860 - the vario luggage was very attractive to me because no scaffolding was needed. Fortunately I don't need them that often, so I'll wait until the new bags come out before making a decision on what I'm going to do.
Also , hard boxes , in my opinion, protect your legs by holding the rear of the bike from your legs , whereas , i’d imagine softies compress .
Definitely pros and cons for each option!
OMG, wrapping a strap around the pannier is what we had to do with BMW’s in the late 1970’s to keep the bags from falling off do to the latch at the back filling up with road grit and not securing the pannier. Sounds like a case of “back to the future” 🤨.
I guess you can count that as a “tried and tested” method!
its a shame this pannier debacle is sort of taking the shine of the 1300 ..i took my hard luggage of my 1250 (Bumot ) and transferred it to my 1300 they are great quality..but if i was buying new id perhaps go for the lone rider kit as well .
I have the lone rider kit here, just arrived, will fit and post a review!! The bike is amazing, just a shame about the luggage sadly Gerry
Side loading is a no go for me . Top loading 💯 all the way
I’m with you on that now! Converted!
I bought the bike so I could take the panniers on and off, and keep the lines clean and not have a cages sitting on the bike to take third party ones on! That’s why I opted for this bike! That’s not to include the issues I continue to have with this bike. Massively disappointed with the bike and Douglas Park Motorrad have been absolutely woeful considering how many bikes I have bought from them over the course of the years, not doing anything to assist
I’m on the west coast of Scotland and I use Tayside motorrad who have been first class through the whole issue. I’ve heard some horror stories which is why Dundee was my chosen dealer!
Reject the whole bike as not fit for purpose we still have the EU laws in place so they must accept or be taken to court, report failures to the DVSA as a dangerous fault if they open on the motorway the contents spilling out could cause an accident, do not put up with BMWs excuses they know about the issue but have made the sale so do not care. BMW UK is in Fleet Hampshire so pay a personal visit.
I understand BMW are discontinuing the central locking option on these - I don’t believe it is an option on the new GSA for example….
Probably a sensible move! I see one side has an electric mounting point purely for charging your phone!
BUT,are they secure against a Stanley knife. It’s NOT the bags thieves want , it’s the contents.
Get Bumot luggage instead...works brilliantly, simple and well made and you can use them on different bikes,,,just buy a new rack...never buy own brand boxes.
A friend has them on this adventure! I’ve got the Lone Rider Motobags to try, soft luggage but they seem really well built and sturdy! I’ll let you know how I get on!
The OLD bags Have a recall for falling off as well so there not an option I loss one and they would not accept that it fall off on its own, but then loads more had the issue and still no refund, or new options moved to softbags instead.
Thankfully that’s not happened to me, that would have been a nightmare!
@@Motoscotty there is a FEMA recall on them
Get yourself some shad panniers/topbox
Shad made the previous Varios! They should have maybe been used to build the 1300s as well….
I’ve went for the LoneRider set up with the Motobags! I’ll let you know how I get on with them!
I put mosko motos on touratech racks on mine. Problem solved!
Soft luggage as well! What’s your thoughts so far?
@Motoscotty love them because when empty, they don't protude, and you can expand them a lot to load them up. Also, when moving the bike in the garage, or when getting my leg up to hop on the bike, I don't kick a hard surface! And they look good too! Since the racks are simetric, the bike looks balanced from the rear.
Blame Touratech, but BMW is the one that will get all the hate. I read Shad made the Vario cases and BMW should’ve just had them make the cases for the 1300 also.
I agree, the old vario’s worked well! Touratech have a great reputation as well so it’s rather disappointing they don’t work properly
Och nothing new here pertaining to BMW most models have been released with lack of development,I’ll stick to my R1100rs now with 500,000 kms and yes had issues with it too mainly fixed by me. Good luck.
Amazing mileage to have done! All 500km done by you?
Road touring/ hotels prefer hard boxes. Part off-road touring/ wild camping prefer Mosko Moto. Drop the bike off-roading (as you will) all energy absorbed by soft luggage no damage done. Drop the bike on tarmac? Time to wake up.
I’ve just had a weekend with the LoneRider Motobags and I was really impressed!
Yet another reason to not buy a BMW......as if you didn't have enough already. Absolute shambles of a company at this stage.
To be fair, the bike has been faultless and that’s with 6000 miles on it so far and another 2000 planned in the next fortnight! Sadly the panniers seem to be my only issue!
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I’ve not deleted anything, did you post one?
Threaten BMW UK with court action as it is a danger to other road users if they open when riding use the courts if you need to they are based at BMW UK Fleet Hampshire. We are still part of the EU sale of goods so reject the whole bike if less than 2 years old as not fit for purpose use your rights before labour steps in to protect EU company's from prosecution.
I got a full refund from them, the dealer handled it really well! The actual bike is fantastic!