Second Hand Heroes: Aston Martin Alternatives - Fifth Gear
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Jonny knows not everyone can afford an Aston Martin, so here are three alternatives for those on a budget.
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Hum.... I can accept a Jag or a BMW as cheap substitutes for an Aston Martin, but a Ford Puma? Really? I think that's a (HUGE) stetch... LOL
Tim Franco its from the same company
Same company? That's like saying a VW Polo GTi is like a Lamborghini because of the "same company". The Puma was a good car but limited due to the fact it was basically a Coupe Fiesta. I had one for a few years and it even looked fake Aston like due to its metallic Green paint and custom tan leather but not really a GT or anything approaching it. The 1.7 engine was very meh, the ride height made the car look a little silly and the rear drums were Ford's excuse to save money on production costs. Overall I did enjoy mine but let us not pretend it is anything too special.
Negativvv Ford Owned Aston Martin and Jaguar at the time
Negativvv but it’s fantastic budget sports car
Maybe not any more, not many left... Don't get me wrong, it's one of the best cars I've ever owned but it was the mk4/5 Fiesta Coupe in all but name. It's not a GT car like the other options but it could corner at insane speeds. Still miss mine sometimes!
>aston martin alternative
>ford puma
sorry, you can't have both
Best comment made my day 😊
Ofcourse not, the puma is better
850! just isnt £4k anymore, they are appreciating like a mofo.
Aero Buddy they are 20++ in germany
Still going up
Another car i knew i should have bought and locked away.
My biggest fuck up was a Mk 3 escort RS1600 i 10 years ago. 40k miles one owner 😢 belonging to an elderly widow neighbour. It was her husbands and she garaged it when he died. I used to take her shopping and cut her grass. Anyway we were clearing her garage out and i saw it. Seeing my excitement she tried to give me it but i couldnt take it. I did give it a major service and detailing , fixed the brakes new tyres, sold it for 14k for her. Good deal at the time. Looks cheap now though
@@trumpstinyhands you did the right thing though, bless you.
@@heyhomylord my only comfort lol
the 850 is one of my favourite design from bmw, it looks gorgeous
absolutely
That looks like a lame ford probe lol
I like the Puma. They still look modern, they're snappy, fizzy and funky.
They show the specs for the wrong Puma! Everyone knows the 1.7 is the one to buy. Lovely car : )
No they suffwr from oik leaks andal of them suffer really bady from rear arch rust!!
At this stage a Puma is a mine field and a half. Even when I sold mine in the mid 00's and it was only about 6 years old, the rear arches were f**ked AND I garaged it then too. Ford somehow thought it wise to line the undercarriage of the Puma with what looked like felt, you can guess how that reacted with the metal!!!
@@stevenking9473 Oil leaks? I've had a 1.7 for 12 years now, never had a single problem like that. I mean yes it has rusted itself to pieces, but all Pumas do that ;)
The puma still looks great.
@King Brilliant LOOOOOOOOOLL
I miss my little 1.7 puma. In its size class and age, nothing came close. The only downside was rust, not on the rear arches, but the rear swingarms which are difficult to fix.
I like the shape of the 8 series but I don't think the 850i is the one to go for. The 840i is almost as powerful, lighter, more economical, cheaper to service etc.. Or you could get a 540i with the same engine, also with less weight!
I really love de 840 but I'll vever say no to 540, I adore de 540 sport on 18" wheels, and manual better!
I've got an XK 'R' and it's a fabulous motor. I had a Posrche 911 Carrera S before, and that thing sucked my wallet dry.
XKR-S FRB coupe here. Also had 911 turbo and sold it to make room for the Jag. No regrets :-)
Yes! I really adore the XKR coupé in emerald green or BRG on 20" Detroit wheels what a car, but black looks so badass.
Clearly a lot of people haven't driven the puma. It handles superbly and the engine revs very well thanks to Yamaha. Yes cars are quicker and less girly looking also, but this is about the drive and handling ability. The puma is fun!
But it's not an alternative to the Aston
Ugly it may be, but the Puma will run rings around most things in the twisties. The little Zetec SE lump is a peach and loves to rev.
A car slated by those who've never driven one, usually based on it's feminine appearance.
Ben Crowson it's only saving grace is its handling, but I wouldn't say it'd run rings round most things, if we're talking regular hatchbacks and saloons then yes but similar hot hatches/coupes from the time will give it a run for its money and lots of more modern stuff will wipe the floor with it. What a lot of cars from that era had (the puma being no exception) was feedback, you could really feel what they were doing and that made them a lot of fun at relatively low speeds. I have driven one, years ago my ex girlfriend had one. I had a 106 GTI at the same time. Handling was pretty even between them but the 106 was notably quicker and the puma just couldn't keep up. What really turns me off with the puma (and other fords of the era) is corrosion, there aren't many left because they became too expensive to look after once rot set in, needing welding for every MOT. Shame really.
It's slow as fuck mate.
even a 10years older renault 19 16v beats it at everything.
SHITE FUCKING FORD
jarnoob do you have a Renault 19?
i like bmw 850i
DAN RADIATION9988/daniel harmin i dont care
Only thing better is the 850csi
Great to see a car presenter not screaming and shouting as he throws the car into a corner
The Puma was car of the year in top gear magazine 20 years ago!
4:40 There are more differences between the 4.2l and the 5.0l: of course the engine, but also the transmission, suspension and quite a few options inside that were improved. The 5.0l versions are a big step forward from the 4.2l
Laguna Coupe, ideally the rare petrol V6 would be a good alternative. There's something of the Aston Martin about its looks. If you replaced all the badges with Aston ones, the car is so rare that I reckon a lot of people would think it was a new small Aston.
The guy says XK
But the text said XJ
Editor: Ok 👌
That jaguar is stunning,
And i suspect it will remain that way regardless how many years have passed,
I now i will buy one in the very near future.
I just bought a 2006 XR convertible, as an 'emergency' replacement as my car was totalled. I've had it for a couple of days and I quite like it. The soft cover can be down or up in 18 seconds at a press of a button, no catches/ latches etc. The speedo is on the left, and with my usual hand positions, I'm constantly having to shift my head or hands to peek at it. It doesn't have a digital speed display - a feature that I miss. It doesn't have as much oomph as my last car (4.7 L 433 HP) but it's still decent. The steering/ handling is quicker/ lighter and I'm still getting used to it. The soft top creates a big obstruction where the rear far side column would be and I'm having to look at my mirrors more often to compensate for the blind spot. Some nice features for 2006 such as keyless entry, push button ignition, autofolding side mirrors etc. Touch display is very primitive though and you really to press firmly.
I think it would be even more interesting if the actual owners of these cars showed up during the segment, to give share their own car-repair nightmares. That would be very funny.
Too bad Fifth gear is dead, though.
XKR Owner here 45k miles done in mine without any probems other than a thirst for super unleaded and a hunger for Michelins
I love the Puma, but i do want it with the 1.7 engine
Those Pumas are great, wanted to buy one a few years ago, but the rust had taken hold of any one I looked at. It would have turned into a constant weld-paint cycle. But the drive is excellent.
Got to be the 850 👌🏼 gorgeous car one of my favourites
Those 850s are worth serious money now
What's the name of the music at the start when they show the cars?
The Ford Puma is a good car, no doubt... but it is no Aston Martin alternative... although they do share parts I am sure... (door locks for example)... But saying they are a viable alternative is about as close as saying getting the bus is a viable alternative... at least the bus has a straight 6... :D
I go for the Ford Puma 😍
i loved and love Puma! i had 2 first serie (1997 and 1999), 1.7 125bhp and 1.4 90bhp... i drove a 1.6 103bhp (2000) twice and this is (as the Puma in the video) the worst.
the 1.7 it's the best as km/l (mpg) and faster.
in Italy, Pumas are rust free and are cheapest..... but street rules avoided it because EURO 2/3...... Or i would buy it again and again and again! i was looking for "Rally" edition but it's only left drive and again in Italy isn't that good to... :<
My impressions: great chassis, even ifitcould be the same of "Fiesta/Ka", very good suspensions and easy to drive and drive fast..... but brakes was shitty xD and body parts are so rare (as second market) or very expensive as brand new......
Alessandro Girotti i had a 1.7 years ago. The engine was developed with yamaha, i believe , and was a willing unit. The cars brakes were poor and it didnt sound that good. I loved the handling though. You could really keep the speed up on a twisty road. I thought it looked great as well. Some obviously disagree on this page but for the money....
You find a 850 for that price now If you can al buy it 😂😂
Makes me feel good about my 2007 xk that I bought 2 years ago for a hair under $20k US. Had the transmission pan/filter/fluid changed just as recommended here. Mine's bright red and turns heads all the time. No supercharger but I didn't want to shell out an extra 7k for the R
not getting the R was probably a good idea as when the XK becomes a classic, the car with the naturally aspirated engine will become more valuable
A V12 FOR 4000? HOLY SHIT THATS A DEAL
I saw an XK today.
When you look at the registration of the puma ... all I saw was LEL
Cheapest 850 BMW today in 2022 12k, cheapest Jaguar XK 6-7k, cheapest Ford Puma 1.5k. Everything has gone up with the exception of the Jag.
Did he say a Jaguar has good build quality?
Yep, and the XK does. Times change - Ford spent a fortune on Jaguar - and the XK is not only a reliable Jaguar, but more reliable than most (if not all) of its direct competitiors. I have one...94K miles with no issues.
Yep. We’re not talking about the 80’s.
That model is very reliable. I have one.
Is that Puma was bought by Plato in a very early 5th gear episode in auction with a clutch slip?
Pretty sure it is.
That 8 series was beautiful.
That's a lame ass ford probe
Mr Babangoh's Service Charge Collector still is
Puma's rock!
I think for £20-30K you could get an OK Aston Martin DB7 or Vantage
The BMW 850i is a gorgeous car but a stock 2.0 na rev 3 MR2 can match it to 60 and won't need 2,000 at the next service.
It looks pretty good too.
Luv and Peace.
That BMW is in my top 5 best looking cars
It said XJ not XK when it was it's turn.
Alex Hughes auto-generated
4:20 Jaguar XJ - - - didn't proof read that part..
Pumas are good fun. Bit old now though. I dont think anyone would consider it as an alternative to an aston, however....
The jags are so reliable, I’m thinking of buying this year
Saw an 850i today.
The older X100 XK8 was actually going to be the DB7 Aston Martin.
Slightly irresponsible to recommend something like an 850. Even someone with some modest car knowledge could completely bankrupt themselves on such a car.
Anyone can be bankrupt by that car. V12 means problems.
Bullshit. The M70 engine is very reliable, so is the 4 speed ZF automatic (as long as you don't rev it in N due to a design fault).
Vital Mendoza i learned the the hard way with my S600
750i / 750il e38? Has same v12 as 850
I like the vw
Puma still looks modern
I’m a fan of the European Luxury cars because they last and the quality of build. The unfortunate thing in the US preowned cars are a premium vs EU
Reliability? You must be joking? I had a 2009 bmw x5. Never ever again. Koreans kill them on reliability let alone Japanese. And wnglish cars reliable? Don't make me laugh
It's a shame that the puma 1.6 featued doesn't exist anymore
Imagine getting an 850 for 4k
What they didn't say is that the Jaguar XK8 and the Aston Martin DB7 really are the same car!Jaguar XK8, Aston Martin DB7, and the rare AC Ace (aka Brooklands): badge engineering by Ford.
LOL. Wont find a working and m.o.t cleared Puma in my country these days.
The Puma is practically an economy car and doesn't compare at all to an Aston. The BMW is an over-complicated dinosaur, which can easily turn into a money pit. Some problems are literally unfixable. The Jag is not especially reliable, but it's a reasonable suggestion. I'd also suggest an older Bentley such as a Bentley Turbo or even a Continental R.
I have the puma
jaguar xk 4.2(2007) is a luxury gt.
0-100 5.80 seconds
14lt/km
womens-magnet
you will never in you’re life can buy an 850 il with only 4 k
wake up
840i is lovely but 850i is nice aswell
I like the Puma the most... I bet everyone's gonna hate me for saying that, looking at all the comments
I rather have a jag, but I have a jag so I'm a little biased lol
kano b And I'm going to work for Jag so I hope they're good.
Zlupper. Its been good to me!
I’ll say, the Puma is a greatly fun car, probably more fun than an Aston will ever be, because you can throw it through almost all corners and drive flat out most of the time. And they are cheap
There is no way you can get an 8 series for £4K. They start at at least £10k. But a decent example £12.5k upwards
The jag is by far the best.
The reliability would be fearsome though 😬
Well not really. As a 2007 XK owner I have found the drivetrain to be quite reliable. However the interior despite how beautiful it is quite cheap. The most problems are with the AC unit.
She UGLY!
@@tomtalk24 In what way is the XK ugly? I'm a hardcore BMW fan but that XK is a fundamentally beautiful car. If you don't like it you either have no taste, or you are partially sighted.
@@LawAbidingCat Its plain, its dull, its built to a number. Its a US version of a British comedy, lifeless. Looks just like the Astons of the time.
This is a car from Fords era, Jag never made them any money, cus ugly.
*EDIT: I mean its so forgettable, so boring. Even the editor got its name wrong. XJ XK?* 4:18
i recently bought the ford puma thunder ( check it out on my channel ) its a 1.7 with 138 bhp
the v12 bmw is slower than a new gti
Probably but as a continent munching grand tourer, the 850i is just brilliant
Aston Martin alternative. A BMW 850, a Jag and a... Ford Puma?
I burst out laughing when i saw the puma xD
Codoli16
You know the BMW is cheap because V12 out of warranty service bills can easily cost more than the entire car right?
$64,000 for that Jaguar in Australia! that's so cheap🤔😂
It's in pounds, so in Australian dollars it is 114,000
2018 anyone?
the 8 series is nowhere near 4k, on Autotrader now 4.0 840Ci is 8k with 98k miles on it. Cheapest. :(
Ian Callum didn’t design the DB9.
that puma was pretty lel
I don't think than Ford Puma was a good Aston Martin alternative, better is Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor
Yeah no sorry but an 850i has never been £4k. That's just a bare faced lie. Even 4 years ago
Ok how the hell did you think a Puma is an alternative to an Aston? The 850 n Jag yes but Puma? *facepalm*
I love Jaguars.idc what nobody say
Come on... in which universe is a ford puma an aston-alternative?
A front wheel drive hatchback being as an alternative cheapskate to the Aston Martin Vanquish? Hmmmmmmmmmmm... Things getting interesting...
A shitty rustbucket like the Puma *lol* They aged sooooo bad.
Barely any of them are still alive.
Yup, can't remember when I saw it last.. been years and years. And even then it was ugly, weird car.
I do, last year whilst I was out in my Z4 someone tried to race me in one. I don't usually rise to it but I wasn't going to give this twat the satisfaction of thinking he'd beat a Z4. I pulled up, found a parking spot at my destination and was out of the car by the time he came past and it sounded like it was about to blow up. I doubt that car is still alive because aside from the fact that they're rust buckets, his driving style tells me that he drives it on the rev limiter everywhere.😂
In the UK there are loads and loads still on the road. Even here in Holland, I see the quite frequently. And I own one.. :D
Astonishing martin vs astonishing cheaps
Hyundai coupe slll that’s all I’ll say
WhiteLion_uk 😂
Tiburon
An 850 for 4 grand? Have they got their prices from a scrappie?
An oil change every 5000 miles??
Start at 2:20 if you want to skip past that pos Puma. You're welcome.
4MATICbenz have you ever driven one? I doubt it by your comment. It was a great car to drive, extremely rev happy and stuck to corners like a go kart. Looks weren't a strong point, but I'm definitely glad I owned one for the fun I had driving it.
I've never noticed it before but that B. M. W is a rip off of the Aston Martin lagonda.
I would rather have the ford puma
Harry h 95 great wee cars. The 1.7 was quick enough, with great handling. Brakes were rubbish. They should have given it a better sound too, imo.
15 grand for a car is hardly cheap!
Change oil every 5000 miles? give over
Did he really say you can do a repair on bmw for only1500? Surely he's jesting?
I would not buy any of those.
Don't buy any of those then.
I bought two of these, still have the XKR
I'd av the jjjjjaaaaaaaggggggggggg
Puma ??? That's a huge insult to the Aston Vanquish. .. such CHAV CAR. ..
Chav supercar
Image.. - Spoken like someone who has never driven one.
A 850i costs like 20000 euro in Europe. This car really doesn't hold any of it's value in Britain.
Why has he got a stupid triangle on his chin
Had my 5l jag for 2 summers now amazing licence loser!😊