Why Darth Bane Destroyed Revan's Holocron (Brilliant) - Star Wars Explained
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Read Chapter 23 of Darth Bane: Path of Destruction. The Holocron was flawed. Bane sat with it for days. Because everytime he used it. It had become more unstable. It died after it imparted all of Revan's Wisdom. He destroyed it to honor Darth Revan's teachings. He crushed it with The Force until only dust remained.
I was just going to bring this up, a weird contradiction that the holocron was only ment to be used once vs the novel specifying that really the holocron was old and falling apart, it was 2000 years old after all
The Emperor screwed himself when he had too many sith working with him
Because he needs stuff to make videos about. Most of this has nothing to do with why Bane destroyed it.
@Thomas Bowling They weren't Sith. Only Dark Side agents who learned some, but not anywhere near enough knowledge of the Dark Side.
I've reread the Darth Bane trilogy at least 5 times. Such a shame that it isn't canon. But fortunately I have copies without the "Legends" tag on it. So it's canon in my mind
The rule of two was always a bonkers concept to me. _One_ hyperdrive malfunction with both master and apprentice on board would have wiped out all the accumulated Sith knowledge. _One_ Sith master that failed to teach part of his curriculum to the apprentice before he was killed would have ended that knowledge for good. Etc, etc. It is a concept that relies on _everything_ going perfectly for _thousands_ of years to _supposedly_ work (for a couple of decades).
@ABCZ ZC dark jedi are never taught all the knowledge that's why the modern sith was weaker than the ancient sith...millenia of knowledge lost over and over
because no story is going to kill of their main villains like that.
The rule of two is something that, if followed as it was designed, would breed the strongest Sith imaginable. However, it wasn’t followed 100% a few Sith into it. Sith needed to prove that they were superior to their masters in a fair duel, whereas many killed the Master by means of deception.
Your not far off from the truth of it it nearly did fail when Plagueis,'es masters master went mad and destroyed alot of sith artifacts and tried to kill his own apprentice
@@zigzagzarf dats not true
I'd be up for watching more videos about revan & Darth Bane
Raven ? Lmao
@@jzl7965 Azarath Metrion….
POWAAHH
Indeed.
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Same
Fascinating that he discusses this around the same time I read “Path Of Destruction.” I feel that well Bane mostly did it because it didn’t even function anymore, so he wanted to put it out of its misery. But I feel that Bane didn’t want anyone else to find it and use that knowledge for something against Bane. Darth Bane had a lot of respect for Darth Revan.
Luke skywalker grandfather lives he behind everything not palpatine he made rule of 3 master king plagues disciple palpatine student lord Vader
@@isaacsantana6560 what?
@@primary2630 Exactly 😂
@@isaacsantana6560 😂 I almost had a stroke
Darth king lord plagues behide everything not palpatine he fake his death and his Luke skywalker grandfather he behind everything by cloneing himself over over he the new villain in coming to movie s
The bane book is so badass. He is the perfect sith honestly. Background as a working class miner with a chip on his shoulder. Ridiculously strong and confident. Just a mega chad through and through. I think he could have beaten Plagueis at their respective peaks
I wish they continued the story with Darth Zannah. It had so much potential.
Disrespectful
He would have destroyed Plagueis… it was well known that the ancient sith were much more powerful than modern republic age sith. Most of the sith knowledge and power was lost throughout the wars with the jedi and the subsequent defeats lead to the destruction of many sith records and holocrons.
@@patientboi5916 But it’s not known at all there’s no proof they were actually stronger. Sidious is the strongest sith ever and Vader while handicapped is still extremely powerful. Also keep in mind Bane was a schemer and less of a warrior
@Patientboi in Banes time this is true but by the time Palpatine is in power he's the product of generations of exponential power gain and growth later. Palpatine could stop death, that alone is a power Bane coveted but didn't achieve and at least one example of the power increase from his rule of 2
I think Revan as a sith made the holocron because while he desired the rule of two, he also knew he couldn't do it in his own time as a sith lord.
No he could the problem was he made it while he was fighting with the light side of himself and created this knowing it would strengthen the sith but ultimately hinder them more then help so he never implemented it. Honestly the brotherhood of darkness was so scared of being one uped by eachother they never actually learned anything unlike Revans sith empire whos members where always looking to get stronger while they fought together.
To think that something Darth Raven left behind helped to inspire Darth Bane on his path to recreating the Sith. Impressive.
Another reason why Revan is one of my favorite characters in Star Wars, Bane created the Rule of Two, but Revan created the draft
The reason that the holocron wasn't working properly was because of all the Twi'lek porn Revan had downloaded to it.
Yeah, makes sense why he can't beat no nut November or get past day 4 of no nut November.
@@starkillerpumpkin6474 Well, November is relevant to what planet you’re on and which part so we should just be grateful he deleted all of his Wookie porn.
The Damaged Holocron was Missing Something: that the Rule of Two was simply a Rule for Each Master, not for a Sole Master.
Christ even dead Darth Revan is perhaps the single most intelligent Sith in legends if he's able to inspire such a methodology onto Bane.
I'm always down for more Revan. I've always felt that too few people know of him. He certainly did more for the republic and sith combined than many other sith or jedi in my opinion
The Darth Bane trilogy is my favorite. What a great story. Read all three and I promise you will be happy
Definitely interested to hear more from the holocrons about Bane and any materials that still exist to detail Revan's journey!!
Revan is one my favorite Jedi/Sith characters. I’m surprised that Bane destroyed is holocron. I feel like Revan’s holocron could actually be really useful to Sidious or Vader
Sidious and vader hated using sith artifacts they loved collecting them but they almost never used them and disliked using them because they always have cost to use them
Also Revan programmed his to be useless after a sith learned from it
Well I just used them as a reference. I would use his holocrons
In the book, the holycron is old and malfunctioning. It gets more messed up, every time he uses it, until after Revan’s final lesson, it finally stops working.
He crushes it into dust.
None of the other stuff mentioned in this video, was going through Bane’s mind when he uses the force to crush it into ash.
@@blakeprice5540what is the cost of using them? Really interested to know!
I want to hear more anout reven’s history and why he turned to the light side. He sounds like a very complicated person. Also more on bane & how he realized that too many sith around tend to destroy each other.
Speaking of great Sith Lords, where's the love for Exar Kunn? The man who invented the double-bladed lightsaber : ) Froze the entire Senate, and successfully transcended his body, though it didn't turn out well : (
Putting aside the fact that the holocron was flawed and became more an more unstable as it was used, yes, it's an interesting justification after the fact. Makes me wonder of you could fix an holocron at all.
As for making the Rule of Two: Revan phrased it more as an observation, a natural law; heck he even suffered it at the hands of his apprentice. Bane's great contibution was to codify it trusting, correctly most of the times, that it would come to pass and turn the Sith's greatest weakness into their greatest strenght.
Problem is, as is the problem of all dark side users, is that the Force itself can only tolerate so much malevolant use before striking back.
just finished the bane trilogy this morning, great timing for a Bane video
Is it a show?
@@Joe_Friday books
@@Nova6432 Ah. Are they worth a read?
@@Joe_Friday I'd definitely recommend them, I actually listened to them through audible myself.
This is completely true. Revan's teachings are brilliant as ever. One apprentice,one Master. One to embodies power,other to crave it. This is perfect. May the Force be with you too. See you soon :)
It seems to me that Revan was talking more about 1 sith ruler and then splitting the galaxy into fiefdoms like a king and his lords. I think bane just wanted power all to him self and to use any apprentices as host bodies to train up and use later. My problem with the idea that the rule of 2 actually ever worked is that darth wrinkles made his empire and got rid of the jedi through politics and trickery and did not require any sort of sith or dark side anything to accomplish so therefore not a sith victory at all, not to mention how short lived his empire was and the fact palpy would have been just as powerful if there where billions of sith or just 1 not like the universe ever runs out of dark side energy.
Believe it or not, Marka Ragnos ran the old sith empire that way. He was the only Dark Lord while appointed other lords of the sith to rule worlds they inhabited
@@drevato2861 To me that sounds like a great way to cut down on some infighting yet not decimate your group at the same time, I mean some may fight over who rules what and where but any group of sentients will fight with each other over random stuff that is just what they do.
Dud Darth Krayt get inspired by Revan then?
Excellent video! Thank you! There's a link there that I never saw.
Please do more of these videos like this one, where it takes 8-10 minutes to explain it, instead of having 3 min. worth of content that you need to stretch out. It's so much more fulfilling and rewarding
hey do you know the Sith theme at the beginning of the vid?
Revan knew that the dark side was an apex order of hierarchy. Him and his apprentice sat at the top and cemented that they had it all. Revan just understood the importance of leaving knowledge if the trail went dead. Of being known. The sith apprentices in Revans time that survived probably fought for access to artifacts. Bane lost the fact on himself and hence why palpatine failed at making the One Sith. He tried to rediscover it but the Sith culture is what makes Jedi dead. Not necessarily the dark side. Revan understood that. It's even hinted at by Traya
Revan was the total package. Powerful, brilliant, skilled, knowledgeable, wise, determined, and burdened with destiny all at once. He was so influential that if he farted, a thousand years later, there would probably be a hurricane.
"....one to embody the power and an one to crave it..."
More Bane today, more Bane tomorrow, more Bane forever
I think this is officially my favorite video about the sith
I would love to hear more about REVAN for sure
fucking miss Revan. thank you for this i watched the one years ago but theirs not enough revan in anything anymore
Revan is hands down my favorite SW character in any game, video, movie, book, etc. The franchise did such a disservice not focusing on him more. SWTOR did the ultimate disservice by pegging him as some crazed looney.
It was like a deep exploration into Ventris.
I would like to hear more about the bane book of destruction and the jedi things that Darth Revan acheived.
I love learning about Revan
Just finished the book this was in a few days ago, so it was still fresh in memory.
Started the second book today. Do you have videos about the thought bomb? (will search your channel for it)
Would love to hear about Bane, Revane, and the other great Sith. Because while I get that they in real world creation came after Vader so they shared many similarities but were different in other ways. And when creating great characters especially great heros you need equality great, powerful, and terrible villains to be beaten. That simply is what newer Star Wars has been missing because when we think of great heros Batman, Superman, Spiderman, He-Man, and Goku you also bring up the names of the most iconic villains in many forms of media and Darth Vader is right there with those same iconic villains.
Revan inspired so many future Sith; he was really something. I find it interesting how it’s Bane who’s the one to enact the Rule of Two and establish the groundwork Revan laid out all those centuries ago.
This is kinda odd- the Sith are all about competition, and yet there is no competition among them as there are only two with very set roles. Imo the Jedi are much more competitive- there are multiple padawans, multiple masters, multiple visions of the Force- and one has to be the best, not to end up in the Service Corps.
If you think about it is not that odd the dark side of the force probably trick Bane into thinking that with less Sith Lord to share the dark side of the force the more power he would get
@@JoseFlores-xc7wu eh, the Force isn't a deus ex machina- I don't buy it. I think that he tried to ritualize competition to not make it so destructive (which kinda worked out until Sidious).
I mean if you look at the factionalism and skullduggery of the old Sith empire, it becomes rational to try and fix that mess.
The Sith apprentice always kills the master. That’s pretty competitive to me.
@@TheMcleapfrog but only after the master teaches the apprentice well enough. There is no competition between the apprentice and the master, because the master already is the master. Of course it may be a different understanding of "competition", though I see it as for example in SWTOR you've had multiple hopefuls competing for a single position of apprentice. If you are chosen at random by the Sith lord in the Bane order... Well, you didn't win it!
@@bjorntrollgesicht1144 I see what you mean. I thought about the hatred between Ax and Sith Lord Darth Chratis. Or the lack of competition like how Darth Bane was filled with rage when Zannah wasn’t immediately interested in completing the rule of two. But yeah, after the rule of two I guess it’s the jedi. Actually yea I agree with you the more I think about it. For example in lost tribe of the Sith. It describes exactly what your saying how the Sith are in constant Competition. This was before rule of two though
If you like the Bane series, check out Fatal Alliance. It was equally good to me.
DARTH BANE books need to come to theaters!
I do agree that it was Revan's teachings that Bane used to take the sith forward. But I would say that Bane was the main factor in the fall of the jedi and the republic. It was Bane's intention to spend however long it took to achieve this through careful planning and deception. He also understood it would likely take well beyond his lifespan to achieve. That manifested it's way down the sith line through the rule of two, to Palpatine who finally saw the deed done that Bane set in motion 1000 years before. Although afterward Palpatine betrayed the idea of the rule of two. Seeking to hold power for his own and use Vader as his right hand rather than train him to eventually overthrow him and take his own apprentice.
Revan and bane need their own series/movie
Immediately stopped what I was doing to watch this gem. Love your work man.
Could you do a video about the Sith named Sarasu Taalon? He was literally the only Sith to ever have access to Abeloth's source of power: Pool of Knowledge.
Love Revan. More of hom please
More videos like this!
Amazing
Would be nice to hear about other Sith from that time
Lore from and around sith that aren't relevant to motion pictures is always welcome in my eyes
Crazy how there's a Darth Bane and it's NOT the bald guy with the mouth-respirator lol
this makes Ezra's use of the sith holocrons even more concerning. in addition to opening the holocron with the dark side he was deemed worthy by the guardian. hell, we even see him talk to her.
The Stupendous Wave, personally what side of the force would you align yourself with?
Can you make a video on how all these Sith Lords died?
Didn't his teachings were saved in the Telos Holocron?
What’s the background music in the beginning called
This holocron stopped operating because Bane is the reincarnate of Revan, the creator of that holocron, the knowledge belongs to him. ♟️🧨
The more information the powerful we become with the force.
What’s the song audio for this?
The rule of two actually reminds me of Saw. You have the master and his apprentice, and if you stray from the masters teachings then you are killed and replaced
it was to stop people using lore as a side- hustle, using intellectual property that belongs to someone else to make a profit. (guess it didnt work)
More Revan!
Damm now i gotta play KotOR again. I loved playing Revan.
I doubt theres much that could be found on the subject. But even so, Id atleast love to see what you think Sidious thought of Revan. Or maybe even someone like Valkorian. I think you get where Im going.
Even what he thought of Bane. Since he started the road that eventually led to Sidious completing the sith grand plan
Revan is the balance in the force (eventually)
He destroyed it because he was a coward and feared someone else finding it.
Yeah, really good that did him
Revan is the only person to become a truly great Jedi and arguably the greatest Sith ever
Darth Bane Exclusive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the way revan
More revan pls
The brotherhood didn’t give up, it was said it was futile or one of the dark lords hoard it to them self
He destroyed it because the matrix of the holocron was unstable and it cease to work after he imparted all the knowledge inside of it
Darth Bane may be the father of the rule of two but Reven is the grandfather of the rule of two
MORE bane and Revan
It ceased to be of use to him. Therefore, it must be discarded.
Was it actually confirmed that Revan programmed his holocron to fail after one teaching? Because I’ve read the Bane novel multiple times and this was never mentioned.
No, I don't where it got that info from. I think that's headcannon. The holocron was over 3000 years old and its power crystal was failing.
@@TresBS1 tbh I can see other holocrons lasting much longer and still working fine... Andeddu was the first Darth and his holocron survives to the time of the films and is still able to be used, if I recall.
In all fairness to @stupendous_wave, Revan programming his holocron to fail after teaching only one worthy student sounds in line with the rule of two philosophy, but I would really like to know where he got this info from
@@tardarsauce3355 I just chalk it up to something being wrong with the crystal. Doesn't matter if the rest of the thing holds up but the power source doesn't work.
Revan is a bad ass
Ahhh good star wars
Darth Bane is my second favourite Sith Lord.
I thought it was Darth Mickey who destroyed all traces of Revan?
So, this is a retcon, eh?
I could've sworn Sidious and Vader were aware of, and studied from, Revan's holocron.
In the Bane novels while he was learning from Revan. The holicron was getting weak and losing power. So when it quit working he destroyed it. Bane was the last to see Revans holicron. I wish they would have turned these novels into movies. But I don't want Kathleen Kennedy anywhere near these stories. I love the novels so much more than anything Disney has been putting out.
So.. a Revan version of Cortana was inside? 😲
i remember when i read this series. i was with bane. they werent true sith. i spent every page waiting to see just how the hell he planned to wipe out the sith and make them stronger than ever
What books cover Revan?
You should do a what if Greedo killed Han
Revan also turned back to the light too so some of his teachings might not have been to banes liking
Knowledge is powerful but can't be share, trustworthy by people whom used it
I've been having problems with the audio, volume going in and out, on your videos lately. Not sure if it's just me or not.
The holocron was failing. Furthermore, it fit with Bane's philosophy. Once it had served its purpose, it was to be discarded.
Why the hell don't we have a movie on this??
Disney sucks man
Anyone else think Darth Revan is more deserving of the title "the wise" over Darth Plagueis?
Too bad Disney couldn’t pull off a Sith history set of trilogies. Rated R. Souls of the Dark Side.
1000 years of hard work only for a 20 year payoff and the complete destruction of the Sith.....ngl the Rule of 2 had a pretty poor return on investment.
Yeah, I think people give Bane and his Rule of Two way more credit than they deserve, the result was the Sith pretty much sat on their hands for a millennia then lost miserably.
WE WANT KEANU REEVES TO PLAY REVAN IN OLD REPUBLIC SERIES!!!
I thought revin's teaching and knowledge was empowered with the great Seth crystal after he learned everything you could cause I know there was a great crystal of central knowledge for the sith
I hate Bane so much, he is the type of Sith/ darkside user who is evil for the sake of being evil while the best Sith imo is Darth Malgus.
Revan the GOAT
No he isn't
@@persuasivebarrier2419 but he wasn't the greatest sith
No wonder Sidious failed! How many apprentice's did he have?
Dooku, Maul, Vader, And by extension Ventress . . .
Is revan only popular cause of the game? Or do you think he would have been just as popular in only books/comics?
Actually because of books man read it you will understand and but not strongest force user because anakin is the strongest force user but couldn't reach because of that series injury with Obi wan and revan is more best in understanding force because he can use light and dark without light and dark emotions without turning
So anakin meant to be strongest even if he turn light or dark is meant to be the strongest and revan best in understanding force and use light and dark created many force abilities and technique but both anakin and revan got manipulated and toyed so both emperor are something don't you think manipulated both strongest force user in history and best Balanced force user in history 😅
Their story is amazing read it better than woke Disney
The OG EU was so god-tier. Hope Jon Favreau slowly brings it back.
Yay! Revan! Always good when fun characters get the credit they deserve, even if they aren't George Lucas creations, or penned by Disney.
So, I've prattled this line before, but how does Bane justify his own system to his own ego? There must be only one master, and they will rule, and do great things, but by him taking on his apprentice, and teaching them what he knew, for the furtherance of the ideal, he was setting himself up to be deposed; he was admitting that that great Sirh Loed would not be him. He wasn't weak, withered, aged, or dying, yet as soon as he took on Darth Zannah, he was saying "she will continue with the path because I know I can't achieve it." As the one who tore down the old order, and built the new Sith in its place, he just didn't seem the one to accept his own limitations, and he even tried to body swap with her, which seemed to violate his edicts. How did he rationalize the system, and that a system would be needed, instead of him simply winning, and why didn't he try a more Krayt-style approach, that could have allowed his efforts to bear fruit with him, instead of for his successors?