It depends on the thickess and some other things. I usually use a foot pedal whenever possible for Aluminum so I can't say exactly. But for this Material (2mm mostly) I use something around 80-90 Amps.
I was watching this and thinking this is amazing every single person that makes DIY cargo bikes can weld so well and then I realized, you make the other bike also
Super cool build! You may experience a stress fracture on the rear triangle if you do not reinforce this area. This is due to the downward bending force the brake caliper puts on the frame, which was strong enough to break my modified titanium frame. A bar from the forward bolt to the seatstay should strengthen this enough that you won't see problems long-term. Lots of current hard-tail designs incorporate this feature.
Yeah I know a lot of people put them in, so far I've never had a problem without it so I'm usually too lazy to do it.. I guess It'll take a broken frame for me to learn the lesson 😅
I think if I were doing that I might clamp the head tube and extension to a piece of angle iron to line them up, then do a couple of tack welds to hold them in alignment before doing the final weld joint. Over all, I'd say that's some pretty good workmanship.
dam excellent!.........you have inspired me to build my own bike! someone stole my yuba mundo that i used to transport my instrument and amplifier! now, i will build my own!
@Phil Do you feel confident that welding a disc brake mount on a normal aluminium fram is safe enough for a public road vehicle? Pushbike. Whatever; you take the road with that. I mean the alu/ frames are being heat treated after welding, and are reinforced where they weld the disc brake mount. You neither have the reinforcement nor the heat treatment. I'd worry about that.
Yeah I'm confident it will hold, I mean it's not like I'm riding down MTB trails with 200mm discs with this. I have never had a single thing break on a frame that I worked on, and like you said, I only ride these myself. if I worried about this kind of stuff I'd never build anything. I'm actually surprised myself that nothing breaks because I'm kind of curious about what the limits are :)
Hi ! Can we have a long term review of your weld ? Did they hold despite not choosing the same alloy and not heat treating ? I'm considering doing the same to modern Alu MTB.
Watch my other videos, you can see me build tons of stuff from aluminum over the years. None of it ever broke, people online way exaggerate the importance of heat treatment, usually it's people who never welded anything. You don't need the same alloy either, same as with steel, it just needs to be a weldable alloy. I've welded 7005 to 6060 plenty of times for example, no problem at all. Choice of filler is much more important, I suggest 5356, it's a bit softer and has lower chances of developing cracks/getting brittle
I really like your cargo bike projects. Would like to see you build an ice cream trike cargo bike. I’m wanting to build one for hauling grandkids around. Thanks for the ideas and videos
I admire your work and enjoy your channel. Coming back to this video again I find myself curious why you left the welding so ugly - is it that you don't find it ugly? Seven years later obviously your welding skills are more refined - do you look at this build now and find the welding ugly or the kind of nitpicking which I suffer from is not something that bothers you? For you the rawness of the welding has its own appeal?
I've never given this any thought so not sure how to answer it, especially since I sold this bike years ago and haven't seen it since. I think back then I was just happy that it works since this was one of the first aluminum welding projects I ever did
@@PhilVandelay It is a great design and imagine who ever has it now loves it - I really like your designs. I put you in the same league as the very meticulous My Mechanics, but of course you are very different people - he largely renovates and you create increasingly beautiful Frankenstein's bicycles (amongst other things). Thank you for responding, I really appreciate it, it's always a pleasure watching you create and learning about your craft.
Nice. Can't tell if the front forks are offset enough like the soma tradesman. That bike'd be brilliant if it wasn't one size fits all. Still pretty good. Specially with a hub motor in the front wheel. Makes the steering less twitchy.
You mean because of the handling? I kept the original steering angle so it's definitely a bit steeper than on the soma. So yeah it could use some more slack when you're carrying heavy stuff but on the other hand I really like the snappy handling when it's empty. The whole thing was kind of an experiment anyway (just wanted to mess around with some aluminum) so I didn't plan it out too much. It's a great bike for just zipping across town and picking up a thing or two. I think the soma is more suited for heavy hauling though.
Phil Vandelay yeah, I think my main reason for liking the somas offset fork is because it makes it harder to go otb and increases the amount of weight the rack can hold before it flips. Soma still seems to love falling over when leant up against stuff.
Changing the entire front end of the bike does of course affect the riding experience - whether you like the new handling is a matter of personal preference I guess, it handles a lot snappier than a 26" wheel so I think it's pretty fun to ride. But the handling is not "bad" or anything if that's what you mean. It's just different.
ok just finished the vid. I have to say I loved it, such craftsmanship. I liked that you bothered to create your own caliper mounts, when I guess you could have just used normal brakes. well done man.
sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a way to log back into an Instagram account? I somehow lost the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Kole Valentin I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Did you build the front wheel yourself or where did you get it? I haven't really found all the specs in one package: 20", disc brake and dynamo. Omnium seems to sell one, but 339e is quite steep.
Yeah they are not easy to find, this one was a front wheel from a Bullitt cargo bike I found used. There are some stores/onlineshops that build custom wheels, that might be the best bet if you don't want to lace a wheel yourself
You just wrap them around the tube a few times on one end (the friction is enough to keep them on) and secure the other end with zip ties or tape. I like using tubes for all kinds of stuff since they're essentially free (just ask your local bike store, they probably have boxes full of punctured tubes they usually throw away). And they have good properties to use them for securing cargo since the friction stops stuff from sliding around and they're very flexible so also work great as holding straps.
wie verbindest du die abgeschnittenen Fahrradschläuche miteinander, um sie auf der flache zu spannen? werden die gerackert, oder genäht oder...? deine Räder sind wirklich der burner. verkaufst du auch?
Die Schläuche schneide ich auf und stecke die beiden Enden ineinander, so dass sie ein paar Zentimeter überlappen. Dann kommt aussen ein Kabelbinder drum und wird gut angezogen. Hält bombenfest, ist mir bisher nie aufgegangen. Verkaufen tu ich bisher eigentlich nichts. Hat hauptsächlich rechtliche Gründe...
das mit den rechtlichen gründen verstehe ich. aber falls du mal n Workshop anbieten solltest, mail mal, hab Interesse am selber bauen. macht eh mehr spaß als kaufen!
Very nice job ! I would love to see you building a mini max version .I have been bicycling in this model for about 8 months and I have had so much fun . The best and most beautiful ,models of Omnium bikes . Very fast , manoeuvrable , and light .It is incredible , but also very expensive .😔
That actually has been on my list of want-to-builds :) I agree the mini max is a great format, very versatile. It's really tricky to bend tubes that size though which is mostly what has kept me from doing it.
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The video is hypnotic. Love the no talking concept.
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@Rob M Then, you should watch the DiResta channel
Being able to store the bike standing on the luggage rack is an excellent idea for saving space or performing maintenance on the tyres and drivetrain.
One of the most handsome cycletruck buildsi have seen. Great video . Great design. Hope you make more videos for us thanks
Thanks! Yes there's more on the way :)
Stem and Bars are spot on!
Watching you work on this is truly therapeutic...
I wish I had the skills, the tools and the workshop to do all this !
And the time, and the parts and the..
No wait, just gimme the bike and let Me go and be Me.
This design makes more sense than a rack on the fork. So the cargo does not follow our steering movement.
Haha, listening to Chancha via Circuito at 1:00! Great work of course!
That ' s easy. I could make that too if i had a tig welder, drill press, band saw and your TALENT. nice bike. Thank you for sharing?!
love the paint job on the ride!! Would love to see some paint videos.
Beautiful build! May thy be blessed by the Retrogott!🙏
Dude! That's pretty impressive build!
I love adjust the Things for me ! Im going to do one like you! Thanks for the inspiration, God bless you.!!!
Thanks! That's awesome, show us when you're done!
how many amps you use for welding aluminum?
It depends on the thickess and some other things. I usually use a foot pedal whenever possible for Aluminum so I can't say exactly. But for this Material (2mm mostly) I use something around 80-90 Amps.
ok graeat, thanks Phil!!!!
ole phil, hes pretty good. precision but simple. Notice the bolts and welding, just like my 10 car hauler, Bolted & welded at factory, stuff stresses.
Hab das Ding 2020 schon nachgebaut, und trotzdem guck ich das Video ständig wieder :D
I was watching this and thinking this is amazing every single person that makes DIY cargo bikes can weld so well and then I realized, you make the other bike also
Super cool build. Lovely welding.
This might be my dream frame !
another monster build cargo bike!
Oooh. I like that you take the time to make your metal all shiny and nice. I definitely would not.
Super gemacht! Great videos!!
I fricken love the sound of machines during timelapse.
nice work by vandelay industries
Cooles Teil! Deine Arbeitsweise sieht sehr professionell aus!
Bravo bravo !
Très très beau boulot.
Un travail de vrai professionnel.
Super cool build! You may experience a stress fracture on the rear triangle if you do not reinforce this area. This is due to the downward bending force the brake caliper puts on the frame, which was strong enough to break my modified titanium frame. A bar from the forward bolt to the seatstay should strengthen this enough that you won't see problems long-term. Lots of current hard-tail designs incorporate this feature.
Yeah I know a lot of people put them in, so far I've never had a problem without it so I'm usually too lazy to do it.. I guess It'll take a broken frame for me to learn the lesson 😅
This is a work of art! Amazing bike and an amazing video. Good job!
That's one sweet bike man! keep it up!
I think if I were doing that I might clamp the head tube and extension to a piece of angle iron to line them up, then do a couple of tack welds to hold them in alignment before doing the final weld joint.
Over all, I'd say that's some pretty good workmanship.
Yeah that's a good method if both tubes have the same OD
It’s little projects like this that just make me wish I could weld sometimes!
What a killer project! Looks awesome.
Work of Art
when youre welding aluminium do you not still risk getting sunburnt if you dont protect your skin?
dam excellent!.........you have inspired me to build my own bike! someone stole my yuba mundo that i used to transport my instrument and amplifier! now, i will build my own!
Nice, show us when you're finished! Always like to see other builds.
Phil , why not machine your headtube extension ahead of welding it ? Avoid grinding the head tube out to for the bottom headset cup ?
I didn't have a lathe back when I built this bike so I had to resort to some uh.. unconventional methods
Very fine work!! Looks sooo good 👍
Ótimo trabalho.
Ate quantos kilos esta bike suportar?
@Phil Do you feel confident that welding a disc brake mount on a normal aluminium fram is safe enough for a public road vehicle? Pushbike. Whatever; you take the road with that. I mean the alu/ frames are being heat treated after welding, and are reinforced where they weld the disc brake mount. You neither have the reinforcement nor the heat treatment. I'd worry about that.
Yeah I'm confident it will hold, I mean it's not like I'm riding down MTB trails with 200mm discs with this. I have never had a single thing break on a frame that I worked on, and like you said, I only ride these myself. if I worried about this kind of stuff I'd never build anything. I'm actually surprised myself that nothing breaks because I'm kind of curious about what the limits are :)
really nice paint and metal work!! and great final with beluga airbus!!
12:40 I thought I was transported to another episode of Content Cop 😂😂
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Hi ! Can we have a long term review of your weld ? Did they hold despite not choosing the same alloy and not heat treating ? I'm considering doing the same to modern Alu MTB.
Watch my other videos, you can see me build tons of stuff from aluminum over the years. None of it ever broke, people online way exaggerate the importance of heat treatment, usually it's people who never welded anything. You don't need the same alloy either, same as with steel, it just needs to be a weldable alloy. I've welded 7005 to 6060 plenty of times for example, no problem at all. Choice of filler is much more important, I suggest 5356, it's a bit softer and has lower chances of developing cracks/getting brittle
Nice one. Cool workshop dude
I really like your cargo bike projects. Would like to see you build an ice cream trike cargo bike. I’m wanting to build one for hauling grandkids around. Thanks for the ideas and videos
Did I hear la cumbia sampuesana at 1.00 or was that just machine noises?
wow, great craftsmanship
I like how the rack is on the frame instead of the fork.
And removable! This guy has a lot of forward thinking
eine wahre freude, deine vids zu schauen! gruesse aus potsdam!
Can we know what part you used for the bike ? Thé origine of the 20’´ forck and the wheel specialy. Great video, i realy enjouée it
Melhor cargueira até hoje que eu já tinha visto, perfeito parabéns.
I admire your work and enjoy your channel. Coming back to this video again I find myself curious why you left the welding so ugly - is it that you don't find it ugly? Seven years later obviously your welding skills are more refined - do you look at this build now and find the welding ugly or the kind of nitpicking which I suffer from is not something that bothers you? For you the rawness of the welding has its own appeal?
I've never given this any thought so not sure how to answer it, especially since I sold this bike years ago and haven't seen it since. I think back then I was just happy that it works since this was one of the first aluminum welding projects I ever did
@@PhilVandelay It is a great design and imagine who ever has it now loves it - I really like your designs. I put you in the same league as the very meticulous My Mechanics, but of course you are very different people - he largely renovates and you create increasingly beautiful Frankenstein's bicycles (amongst other things). Thank you for responding, I really appreciate it, it's always a pleasure watching you create and learning about your craft.
Do you know its weight please ? Awesome !
Great craftsmanship!!
Quick question: shouldn’t he be using lubricants when drilling into metal?
Huge dude... Congratulations 👊👊👊
Anxiously waiting for your recent bike build bro!!
Fantastic project !
Building a frame is a dream of mine. Nice work!
which hub did you use on the front? Is it ok that common bmx fork dropout is 10mm and I will use 9mm axle hub?
Yeah it's not ideal but it usually works fine
Nice. Can't tell if the front forks are offset enough like the soma tradesman. That bike'd be brilliant if it wasn't one size fits all. Still pretty good. Specially with a hub motor in the front wheel. Makes the steering less twitchy.
You mean because of the handling? I kept the original steering angle so it's definitely a bit steeper than on the soma. So yeah it could use some more slack when you're carrying heavy stuff but on the other hand I really like the snappy handling when it's empty. The whole thing was kind of an experiment anyway (just wanted to mess around with some aluminum) so I didn't plan it out too much. It's a great bike for just zipping across town and picking up a thing or two. I think the soma is more suited for heavy hauling though.
Phil Vandelay yeah, I think my main reason for liking the somas offset fork is because it makes it harder to go otb and increases the amount of weight the rack can hold before it flips. Soma still seems to love falling over when leant up against stuff.
soma only suggests 50lbs though, what do you reckon how much you can load? also, have you got some drafts for this one?
by converting to 20inch fork, and not altering headtube angle, is the overall wheelbase length shortened? is it affecting riding experience? thanks b4
Changing the entire front end of the bike does of course affect the riding experience - whether you like the new handling is a matter of personal preference I guess, it handles a lot snappier than a 26" wheel so I think it's pretty fun to ride. But the handling is not "bad" or anything if that's what you mean. It's just different.
@@PhilVandelay thanks
Where did you find a 20l wheel with disc hub? Or did you lace it up yourself?
I googled 20" disc wheel, there's plenty around in online stores
Hey nice job, the bike looks fantastic, are you using gas for welding ?
Amazing work! Love it!
another cool build! way to go, man
Could you add then blueprints for this on your Etsy?
Você é um artista, parabéns.De Cuiabá MT Brasil.
No heat treatment? Did it last?
Of course
@@PhilVandelay What kind of alloy did you use?
Amazing process!
ok just finished the vid. I have to say I loved it, such craftsmanship. I liked that you bothered to create your own caliper mounts, when I guess you could have just used normal brakes. well done man.
sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a way to log back into an Instagram account?
I somehow lost the account password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me
@Eduardo Zayn Instablaster ;)
@Kole Valentin I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@Kole Valentin It worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thanks so much, you saved my account!
@Eduardo Zayn no problem :)
I love it ! Perfect job
Sehr sehr schön, cool gebaut
Do you make them regularly? Would you make a new one?
Did you build the front wheel yourself or where did you get it? I haven't really found all the specs in one package: 20", disc brake and dynamo. Omnium seems to sell one, but 339e is quite steep.
Yeah they are not easy to find, this one was a front wheel from a Bullitt cargo bike I found used. There are some stores/onlineshops that build custom wheels, that might be the best bet if you don't want to lace a wheel yourself
how many kilos can it support? , good job
Echt schön geworden! was ist das für ein hinterreifen?
Puh gute Frage. Auf jeden Fall irgendwas von Continental, aber bin mir beim Modell nicht sicher und habe den leider nicht mehr
Fantastic, Phil !!!
Great videos mr phil, continu & sharing, i hope you have plan available for this built, give us a link., tjanks, joe.
Sick bro! Love the build!
Good Idea & Good Job..I like it
How did you install the cut-up tubes on the cargo platform? How convenient is this? I haven't seen this method before.
You just wrap them around the tube a few times on one end (the friction is enough to keep them on) and secure the other end with zip ties or tape. I like using tubes for all kinds of stuff since they're essentially free (just ask your local bike store, they probably have boxes full of punctured tubes they usually throw away). And they have good properties to use them for securing cargo since the friction stops stuff from sliding around and they're very flexible so also work great as holding straps.
wie verbindest du die abgeschnittenen Fahrradschläuche miteinander, um sie auf der flache zu spannen? werden die gerackert, oder genäht oder...? deine Räder sind wirklich der burner. verkaufst du auch?
Die Schläuche schneide ich auf und stecke die beiden Enden ineinander, so dass sie ein paar Zentimeter überlappen. Dann kommt aussen ein Kabelbinder drum und wird gut angezogen. Hält bombenfest, ist mir bisher nie aufgegangen. Verkaufen tu ich bisher eigentlich nichts. Hat hauptsächlich rechtliche Gründe...
das mit den rechtlichen gründen verstehe ich. aber falls du mal n Workshop anbieten solltest, mail mal, hab Interesse am selber bauen. macht eh mehr spaß als kaufen!
amzing work
the best design
Mega Hobel...respekt wer’s selber macht!
You are a artist Man! Your bike It's great! 🤩
bright idea you the man
Shoe or shin strikes while pedaling or dismounting?
Nope, I made sure there's enough space
Love watching your videos !
Really amazing work!!!
Super Arbeit! Würde mich freuen mehr in Richtung Cargo Bikes zu sehen. Grüße
Das nächste Bike ist sogar schon fertig! Video kommt auch bald
hermano , son tus bicicletas o son de clientes ?
I want this bike , so cool !!!
Stem tube is a 1 or 1 1/8? If 1, what tube would i use?
Que genial! So cool! Contrast for this work
hello, where did you get the 20 "front wheel complete with disc?
or did you put it together?
Precious video, thank you 👍🏻
Great video, what happened to this specimen?
Are the plans for this available?
Can't really make plans for this one as they would have to be different for every bike frame out there
Very nice job !
I would love to see you building a mini max version .I have been bicycling in this model for about 8 months and I have had so much fun . The best and most beautiful ,models of Omnium bikes . Very fast , manoeuvrable , and light .It is incredible , but also very expensive .😔
That actually has been on my list of want-to-builds :) I agree the mini max is a great format, very versatile. It's really tricky to bend tubes that size though which is mostly what has kept me from doing it.
Nice build!
Well done excellent job