Shahid is so articulate on the need to reject the far right politics of AIPAC. Democrats need to reject that agenda and the influence of money. And please Kamala, no to Shapiro as your VP!
Hamas is responsible for this. All of the surrounding nations like Egypt do nothing. Why don't you see how Hamas uses the population as human shields and pawns in this war. They have hundreds of kilometers of tunnels and never protect their own. Isreal is protecting itself from complete annihilation. 35 k is not genocide but 6 million is. There are less than 20 million Jews in the world. Unbelievable rhetoric
Because Trump will make it better? If he wins it will be much worse. Remember his Muslim ban? He said he would "crush" the pro-Palestine protesters. He doesn't care about Palestine. If he wins it will be demolished.
Stating the obvious: The U.S. is a country of immigrants and native born. The president is responsible for serving the WHOLE country, which includes Americans who support our involvement in this war and those who don't. Any statement from a candidate on it will pit one group against another. And in this election, particularly, there are bigger consequences to putting any single issue above the health of the nation as a whole.
@@mjinba07 As I read the description of a fascist state... "one party state" - aren't we just about there, with both owned and operated by "Wall St"? "unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens", afforded them via the tech surveillance? Etc. The face of our democracy is a mighty thin veneer, where we go vote for one of their two cherry picked candidates. Mightily convinced of "the lesser of two evils".
The “uncommitted movement” during the Primaries was a great move. The “uncommitted movement” during the general elections that benefit Dumpy is complete suicide
I don't think Shahid is minimizing the Maga threat against our democracy, but is saying that it's inimical to our values as Democrats and as Americans to allow the unjust and savage killing, wounding and dispossession of Palestinians. Great guest and great interview.
The theory was, supporting Israel helped maintain Middle East stability. But as Israel shows itself the aggressor, that fails. Military support for Israel must be scaled back to defence levels only. They can pay for their aggression themselves. Then supports for Ukraine and other treatened nations may be increased.
How is Israel the aggressor? You do know that the latest escalation started after Hamas attacked Israel and not the other way around. We are still in the phase of how to influence and end the war which Hamas started, but Hamas started it, that is a fact!
@@oldbeatpete I was not talking about the old conflict over territory, I specifically and purposefully talked about the "latest escalation" and Hamas clearly started that one.
@@mardasman428Maintaining an apartheid state is inherently escalatory. “Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories is illegal, a form of apartheid, and must end, says the U.N.’s high court at The Hague.” - The Intercept
I too want to see my country USA to stop supporting the Israel far-right government and pressure Israel to remove all illegal settlements and seriously commit to a 2 state solution. However, this uncommitted movement in this present political situation in USA, a choice between Trump and Harris, is like a child throwing a temper tantrum, cutting the nose to spite the face, and againist one's goals.
You would want to stop supporting Israel, regardless of a left, center, or right government. Palestinians have rejected every peace offer, going back to 1936 when they were offered 80% of the remaining land. They've turned down every offer, last in 2000 and 2008, with East Jerusalem as their capital. The conflict has nothing to do with land.
@@oldbeatpete Gaza sits on an aquifer (water). Hamas neglected their water infrastructure after Israel left Gaza. They ripped pipes out of the ground to make missiles. The EU gave them 150M Euros aid in water pipes in 2021 to help upgrade their water infrastructure - where are those pipes now? Israel supplied less than 10% of Gaza's water for free and were not obligated to do. If the conflict was about land, it would have been settled long ago.
@@7135HOLLY Define "remaining land". Who had any right, but those living there, deciding any partitioning? It has everything to do with land. "Violent settlers" included.
"The Hannibal Directive, ....... is the name of a controversial procedure used by Israeli Defense Forces to prevent the capture of Israeli soldiers by enemy forces." ....Wikipedia (i.e. they kill their own soldiers and probably civilians at the music festival OCT 7)
solarwind907, you are missing the point. Uncommitted will be Uncommitted unless Harris makes the right choice and changes course from the status quo of Biden and does not choose Shapiro for her VP. She will bring in much needed support for the party if she dumps the AIPAC money sucker's and goes with what the majority of the voters want.
@@alanna8983 I couldn’t care less about the democratic party. I do care about the country and the world. If you’re not voting against Trump, there’s something wrong with your brain. That’s the only important point to remember.
@@carolyn7691 Trump needs jail for his crimes. couldn't care less what he might do if elected. He's a pathological liar, convicted felon and sex offender to name a few. Incites violence when he loses elections too. HARRIS 2024!
David Koch is a big PBS donor. How often does PBS report on Big Oil-- the cabal that's killing our planet. Someday this beautiful Earth will become Mars II because PBS "sat" on the destruction for decades.
@@buzoff4642 Uh... no one. The jewish lobby is very strong on capitol hill. if you had a muslim in the WH, you still could not get many in congress to vote against israel for anything.
Their strategy is failed and it's sad because this is an important issue. They're starting to seem like being more filled with antics than actual strategy😢
For the legacy of civil rights and human rights and in the name of Fanny Lou Hamon and Harriet Tubman, I am an supporter. Is there a chapter in Delaware. Please post website
Yes, after the USA and Nato's 20 years of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq....8 months of fighting is a bridge too far.... What do they think about the war in Syria ?
You go suffer as the Palestinians, and you see how it feels to most likely welcome any aid against your oppressors offered. You would not likely be in a position to reject assistance of any kind. The US certainly isn't coming to their aid, the US is causing their suffering.
And yet Hamas started this war and Israel has the right to capture these murderers. Throughout the decades an agreement to a two state solution came close to being realized several times. This is a complex situation and the US doesn’t want boots on the ground in another conflict. The shit the Iraq and Afghanistan wars has caused in the Middle East is the US’ fault and the refusal of Egypt and other Arabic countries to accept those fleeing the war in Gaza tells you how problematic Hamas is. Foreign policy is nuanced and not fully understood by most. I feel that all immigrants to the West have to keep their religion and culture at home. Why the hell are they leaving in the first place. Assimilate and let those in the Middle East itself resolve the problem.
So Hamas started the war, because "violent settlements", "mowing the lawn", shooting Palestinian kids from the border walls, etc., was perfectly okay for them to live with? Genocide isn't "complex".
Netanyahu is a monster. AIOAC has become a terrible example of toxic lobbying. I love Biden, but I was extremely disappointed in his refusal to leverage weapons to Israel (except 1x 🙄) when even Reagan leveraged weapons for the same reason. A President Harris will show a far closer alignment with Palestinian people than Joe.
Maybe he should take his own advice about the dangers of cynicism. Ask him what he feels about Palestinian's morning the death of the monster and leader of the terrorist group Hamas. Or ask him what responsibility he would bare if Trump became president and how that would be far away worse and dangerous the all people. If slaying reason and pragmatism, he would be getting a life sentence.
Like the rest of the world, parties should pick the candidate, not the voters. And don't get me started on primaries. The effect of voters choosing is that those on the far left and far right show up, and we end up with candidates who don't know how to govern and who the center can't support.
@@jps0117 I disagree. In the gerrymandered voting process, I can't think of a single good reason party affiliation for voter registration should be allowed. I can't think of a single good reason Independents should be barred from voting in primaries, in any state. They should all be on one ballot, top 3 continue to general election. It goes downhill from there. The public is "registering" their disgust, 50% are now Independent. Which makes both parties, "minorities", each with 25% of party affiliated voters. Whole Truth Matters
That movement is developing. It's called rank choice voting and it worked in Alaska and kept Sarah Palin from winning a seat in Congress. It will be a refreshing change.
I don't like to defend Jared Kushner because of his awful father-in-law and what he did for him, but his comments on Gaza were widely taken out of context (and even lied about!) here, which is a shame coming from this strategist who pretends to be for facts and all. Kushner basically said in that interview that Gaza is valuable property if the war was over and there would be a rebuilt economy, which is pretty much what everyone wants, especially the Palestinians themselves. He talked about that in hypotheticals though, he didn't say it like he wanted to "grab it". The "bulldozing" part is not true, what he referred to was a hypothetical scheme that wouldn't even be in Gaza. He talked about that he wanted to allow the Gazan Palestinians to escape to Israel(!!!), so the Israelis could have fought Hamas without them being in the crosshairs, and then let them back into Gaza. The bulldozing word only appeared as a reference to that you need to build housing and care facilities to do so, and for that he wanted to bulldoze parts of the desert to make space for that. Obviously Kushner's ideas were quite unrealistic and spaced out, as you can't build a city in the desert in weeks for the entire civilian population of a people that is governed by a terrorist organisation that just tried to murder all of your citizens. But he never indicated anything like expelling people so he could build houses there, that's a completely Trumpian way of reading it (which means: a lie!). And honestly, that is incredibly antisemitic considering that Kushner is Jewish and just happens to conform to antisemitic stereotypes of being rich. The idea of him wanting to kill people for his own economic gains is a little antisemitic, especially considering that it's fake news!
@@reallysomebody Yes, and that video proves what I say. I will admit though that Kushner's words are somewhat ambiguous and invite misunderstandings. Considering that Kushner was not talking to a right-wing think-tank or Fox News, but to an Ivy League University Middle East program that tends to be viewed by left-wing students, I don't think Kushner would make extremist public statements there.
@@mardasman428 were you expecting anyone in the trump orbit to have philanthropic intentions? I wouldn't. Especially when it comes to the welfare of Palestinians.
Shahid is so articulate on the need to reject the far right politics of AIPAC. Democrats need to reject that agenda and the influence of money. And please Kamala, no to Shapiro as your VP!
yes to Shapiro, no to current I. prez.
Crimes against humanity under the color of religion, from a supposed democracy.
@oldbeatpete obviously you live in Israel!
Say no to AIPAC.
@@alanna8983(gag, no. Although it may be beautiful but too violent for my taste. (Same with a lot of other places too).
I worry about her possible choice of Shapiro for VP. So I am still mostly ‘uncommitted’. I think NOT picking him would give me some much needed faith.
Picking Shapiro would be stupid and more of the same of Biden s foolish Zionist position.
Yup. I'm out if she picks him.
Why? Because he's Jewish?
@@shadebleu me too.
I just want to say I'm against the uncommitted movement and this movement will end up helping Donald Trump' win the 2024 election.
Im white, elderly female, Christian Pennsylvania Democrat. I voted uncommitted. Genocide was a bridge to far.
There are other parties, this uncommitted movement is a vote suppression tactic, Jill Stien, Claudia De La Cruz….
Hamas is responsible for this. All of the surrounding nations like Egypt do nothing. Why don't you see how Hamas uses the population as human shields and pawns in this war. They have hundreds of kilometers of tunnels and never protect their own. Isreal is protecting itself from complete annihilation. 35 k is not genocide but 6 million is. There are less than 20 million Jews in the world. Unbelievable rhetoric
Because Trump will make it better? If he wins it will be much worse. Remember his Muslim ban? He said he would "crush" the pro-Palestine protesters. He doesn't care about Palestine. If he wins it will be demolished.
Stating the obvious:
The U.S. is a country of immigrants and native born. The president is responsible for serving the WHOLE country, which includes Americans who support our involvement in this war and those who don't.
Any statement from a candidate on it will pit one group against another. And in this election, particularly, there are bigger consequences to putting any single issue above the health of the nation as a whole.
Is turning a blind eye to genocide worth "the health of the nation as a whole"?
What's a bigger consequence than genocide?
@@buzoff4642 What's a bigger consequence than genocide? Uhm, how about the most powerful country in the world becoming a fascist state.
well said.
@@mjinba07 As I read the description of a fascist state... "one party state" - aren't we just about there, with both owned and operated by "Wall St"? "unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens", afforded them via the tech surveillance? Etc.
The face of our democracy is a mighty thin veneer, where we go vote for one of their two cherry picked candidates. Mightily convinced of "the lesser of two evils".
That's okay remain "uncommitted" Trump wins, and you don't have to worry about ever voting again. No more pressure for you. Your problem is solved.
This was awesome.
Thank you
The “uncommitted movement” during the Primaries was a great move. The “uncommitted movement” during the general elections that benefit Dumpy is complete suicide
the uncomfortable. movement in the primary had ZERO influence.
Remember Nader 2000.
Now that Harris is showing promise, I think that opinion of the generals is growing less possible.
Self-inflicted wound. From partisan "lesser of two evils" voting. To descent into more evil.
@@oldbeatpete Perot. Sanders.
The two parties are win/win, for Wall St.
@@buzoff4642yes. they're two sides of the same coin. Key? Reduce everyone's housing payment to the original 'capitalist planning' ratio of 30%.
Thank you for this valuable information.
I don't think Shahid is minimizing the Maga threat against our democracy, but is saying that it's
inimical to our values as Democrats and as Americans to allow the unjust and savage killing, wounding and dispossession of Palestinians. Great guest and great interview.
It's Hamas who is responsible ffs
The theory was, supporting Israel helped maintain Middle East stability. But as Israel shows itself the aggressor, that fails. Military support for Israel must be scaled back to defence levels only. They can pay for their aggression themselves. Then supports for Ukraine and other treatened nations may be increased.
well said!
How is Israel the aggressor? You do know that the latest escalation started after Hamas attacked Israel and not the other way around. We are still in the phase of how to influence and end the war which Hamas started, but Hamas started it, that is a fact!
@@mardasman428the eternal war began right from the beginning of time, not Oct. 7.
@@oldbeatpete I was not talking about the old conflict over territory, I specifically and purposefully talked about the "latest escalation" and Hamas clearly started that one.
@@mardasman428Maintaining an apartheid state is inherently escalatory.
“Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories is illegal, a form of apartheid, and must end, says the U.N.’s high court at The Hague.” - The Intercept
Excellent piece.
Amazing interview! My heart ❤️ is with you from Toronto Canada 💕 the most multicultural city in the world 🌎 we do it right 👍
I too want to see my country USA to stop supporting the Israel far-right government and pressure Israel to remove all illegal settlements and seriously commit to a 2 state solution.
However, this uncommitted movement in this present political situation in USA, a choice between Trump and Harris, is like a child throwing a temper tantrum, cutting the nose to spite the face, and againist one's goals.
You would want to stop supporting Israel, regardless of a left, center, or right government. Palestinians have rejected every peace offer, going back to 1936 when they were offered 80% of the remaining land. They've turned down every offer, last in 2000 and 2008, with East Jerusalem as their capital. The conflict has nothing to do with land.
The conflict has EVERYTHING to do with land (subsequently, water!).
@@oldbeatpete Gaza sits on an aquifer (water). Hamas neglected their water infrastructure after Israel left Gaza. They ripped pipes out of the ground to make missiles. The EU gave them 150M Euros aid in water pipes in 2021 to help upgrade their water infrastructure - where are those pipes now? Israel supplied less than 10% of Gaza's water for free and were not obligated to do. If the conflict was about land, it would have been settled long ago.
Yes and I want jihad and terrorism to stop and that is mostly coming from radical Islam.
@@7135HOLLY Define "remaining land". Who had any right, but those living there, deciding any partitioning?
It has everything to do with land. "Violent settlers" included.
Articulated so well!!!
Thank you for educating me on complex issue
Israel will (rightly) never allow a "Palestinian" state, as Israel is not suicidal.
"The Hannibal Directive, ....... is the name of a controversial procedure used by Israeli Defense Forces to prevent the capture of Israeli soldiers by enemy forces." ....Wikipedia (i.e. they kill their own soldiers and probably civilians at the music festival OCT 7)
Uncommitted? I’d call it clueless. Donald Trump would give Bebe a free pass to do anything he wants in Gaza. Engage brain and vote for Harris 2024!
solarwind907, you are missing the point.
Uncommitted will be Uncommitted unless Harris makes the right choice and changes course from the status quo of Biden and does not choose Shapiro for her VP.
She will bring in much needed support for the party if she dumps the AIPAC money sucker's and goes with what the majority of the voters want.
@@alanna8983 I couldn’t care less about the democratic party. I do care about the country and the world. If you’re not voting against Trump, there’s something wrong with your brain. That’s the only important point to remember.
@solarwind907 what makes you think I'm not voting against Trump?
Are you illiterate?
Trump doesn't "give" anybody anything. What might Trump insist on, in return for weapons?
@@carolyn7691 Trump needs jail for his crimes. couldn't care less what he might do if elected. He's a pathological liar, convicted felon and sex offender to name a few. Incites violence when he loses elections too. HARRIS 2024!
PBS is the best source for accurate reporting
um ...... major American funding by those with strong Mideast feelings......
@@oldbeatpete "Feelings" being ethics.
David Koch is a big PBS donor. How often does PBS report on Big Oil-- the cabal that's killing our planet. Someday this beautiful Earth will become Mars II because PBS "sat" on the destruction for decades.
@@buzoff4642hmmmmm..... but not all feelings are "ethical".
@@oldbeatpete We can see that.
We'll see with her VP pick. If it's Shapiro, she is fully with Israel. She's already said she defends Israel.
Dear Uncommitted. Please remind me who tried to enforce the Muslim ban in 2017?
Dear xopo267, please remind me who voted to fund genocide?
@@buzoff4642 Uh... no one.
The jewish lobby is very strong on capitol hill. if you had a muslim in the WH, you still could not get many in congress to vote against israel for anything.
Their strategy is failed and it's sad because this is an important issue. They're starting to seem like being more filled with antics than actual strategy😢
For the legacy of civil rights and human rights and in the name of Fanny Lou Hamon and Harriet Tubman, I am an supporter. Is there a chapter in Delaware. Please post website
600,000 wow what do the other 330 million Americans think ???
Yes, after the USA and Nato's 20 years of fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq....8 months of fighting is a bridge too far....
What do they think about the war in Syria ?
I’m trying to join uncommitted Georgia but except for utube I’m not on “social media”
It’s about Iran, and Hamas is Iran-backed, and, not good for Gazans either.
You go suffer as the Palestinians, and you see how it feels to most likely welcome any aid against your oppressors offered. You would not likely be in a position to reject assistance of any kind. The US certainly isn't coming to their aid, the US is causing their suffering.
the only one who stands up for palestinians
And yet Hamas started this war and Israel has the right to capture these murderers. Throughout the decades an agreement to a two state solution came close to being realized several times. This is a complex situation and the US doesn’t want boots on the ground in another conflict. The shit the Iraq and Afghanistan wars has caused in the Middle East is the US’ fault and the refusal of Egypt and other Arabic countries to accept those fleeing the war in Gaza tells you how problematic Hamas is. Foreign policy is nuanced and not fully understood by most. I feel that all immigrants to the West have to keep their religion and culture at home. Why the hell are they leaving in the first place. Assimilate and let those in the Middle East itself resolve the problem.
So Hamas started the war, because "violent settlements", "mowing the lawn", shooting Palestinian kids from the border walls, etc., was perfectly okay for them to live with?
Genocide isn't "complex".
Netanyahu is a monster. AIOAC has become a terrible example of toxic lobbying. I love Biden, but I was extremely disappointed in his refusal to leverage weapons to Israel (except 1x 🙄) when even Reagan leveraged weapons for the same reason. A President Harris will show a far closer alignment with Palestinian people than Joe.
Significantly reduce US assistance to Israel, but at the same time strongly condemn Hamas and anyone in this country that supports Hamas.
What is wrong with Hamas?? Are you aware that China is brokering a deal between the Palestinian factions…..what does condemning hamas do?
Vote Jill Stein! Green Party instead!
(never forget Ralph Nader).
Arab Americans do not vote for harris
I do not trust his fabulous mustache and outstanding hair.
ah, to be young with non-grey full head of hair!😅
@@oldbeatpete I'm so incredibly jealous and I like my bald head head and white beard! Maybe cause I have to. 😂😂
Maybe he should take his own advice about the dangers of cynicism. Ask him what he feels about Palestinian's morning the death of the monster and leader of the terrorist group Hamas. Or ask him what responsibility he would bare if Trump became president and how that would be far away worse and dangerous the all people. If slaying reason and pragmatism, he would be getting a life sentence.
Abraham Accords ?
This is why Shapiro cannot be the VP running mate!!!!
This is why voters should have been able to pick the candidate! Shame on the Democratic party for making that selection for US voters.
Like the rest of the world, parties should pick the candidate, not the voters. And don't get me started on primaries. The effect of voters choosing is that those on the far left and far right show up, and we end up with candidates who don't know how to govern and who the center can't support.
She is the most likely to do good for the Palestinian people.
@@jps0117 I disagree. In the gerrymandered voting process,
I can't think of a single good reason party affiliation for voter registration should be allowed. I can't think of a single good reason Independents should be barred from voting in primaries, in any state. They should all be on one ballot, top 3 continue to general election.
It goes downhill from there.
The public is "registering" their disgust, 50% are now Independent. Which makes both parties, "minorities", each with 25% of party affiliated voters.
Whole Truth Matters
... like in France, people should vote once, then twice.
That movement is developing. It's called rank choice voting and it worked in Alaska and kept Sarah Palin from winning a seat in Congress. It will be a refreshing change.
Does AlJazzera own CNN...?
Does Fox Fake News own the GOP?
Look at her husband and that will tell you everything you need to know.
satanyahu
I don't like to defend Jared Kushner because of his awful father-in-law and what he did for him, but his comments on Gaza were widely taken out of context (and even lied about!) here, which is a shame coming from this strategist who pretends to be for facts and all.
Kushner basically said in that interview that Gaza is valuable property if the war was over and there would be a rebuilt economy, which is pretty much what everyone wants, especially the Palestinians themselves. He talked about that in hypotheticals though, he didn't say it like he wanted to "grab it".
The "bulldozing" part is not true, what he referred to was a hypothetical scheme that wouldn't even be in Gaza. He talked about that he wanted to allow the Gazan Palestinians to escape to Israel(!!!), so the Israelis could have fought Hamas without them being in the crosshairs, and then let them back into Gaza. The bulldozing word only appeared as a reference to that you need to build housing and care facilities to do so, and for that he wanted to bulldoze parts of the desert to make space for that.
Obviously Kushner's ideas were quite unrealistic and spaced out, as you can't build a city in the desert in weeks for the entire civilian population of a people that is governed by a terrorist organisation that just tried to murder all of your citizens. But he never indicated anything like expelling people so he could build houses there, that's a completely Trumpian way of reading it (which means: a lie!). And honestly, that is incredibly antisemitic considering that Kushner is Jewish and just happens to conform to antisemitic stereotypes of being rich. The idea of him wanting to kill people for his own economic gains is a little antisemitic, especially considering that it's fake news!
Nonsense. He wants to build a Gaza resort without Palestinians.
Mmm. There's video.
@@reallysomebody Yes, and that video proves what I say. I will admit though that Kushner's words are somewhat ambiguous and invite misunderstandings. Considering that Kushner was not talking to a right-wing think-tank or Fox News, but to an Ivy League University Middle East program that tends to be viewed by left-wing students, I don't think Kushner would make extremist public statements there.
@@mardasman428 were you expecting anyone in the trump orbit to have philanthropic intentions? I wouldn't. Especially when it comes to the welfare of Palestinians.
@@mardasman428... he's a non Master of Deception.
😂😃😃AIPAC IS THE MASTER OF ALL USA POLTiCIANS😂😂😂