I rode an entire trail without lowering my saddle, jumps and drops included!
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I've been riding with a dropper post for the better part of a decade at this point, and I kinda think that I take this awesome piece of tech on my bike for granted. So when my dropper broke while out on a ride, instead of calling it a day, I decided that I would instead continue my ride with the saddle at max height the entire time in the hopes that I would find a renewed appreciation for when I do have my dropper post back up and running. Honestly, I have a hard time believing we ever rode downhill without these things!
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As reach numbers and wheelbases get longer the old school hang behind the seat method only gets harder for sure.
Man gotta say I admire your ''I'M GONNA RIDE MY BIKE NO MATTER WHAT'' attitude
I’ve been riding since about 1990 so I grew up with quick releases but also using the saddle to help guide the bike. I had to unlearn my instincts with a dropper. Every now and then I still forget and get a surprise impact😂
Cant belive ive been doing the no dropper challenge all along
Your poor butt dood
Same
The dropper post, wider bars and shorter stems are still some of my favorite upgrades that have happened to mountain bikes.
Kudos man! I was mountain biking in the late 80s/early 90s and the wheelbase was so much shorter with steeper angles which meant getting out back over the seat was easier. That said when we came to a trail that was the equivalent to down hill the seat would get slammed with the QR seat collar and if there was a climb we would stand. The trails were very different then but I would hate to ride without a dropper now! 🤘👌
It's BC Outdoor, opposite the Cherokee museum. 0.5 miles from trails!
GREAT craft beers, and a cool outdoor & bike shop.
They really helped me out on my 'van life' trip from UK🤘
I rode mt. bike for 28 years before I got a bike with a dropper post. And I'm sure it was a few years before they put a quick release on the seat post.. I do believe that was a major implement to riding technical. Glad you took some time to appreciate it.
My Kona Process 111 has a dropper post, but I never hardly ever use it on my local XC trails, about 800 ft. of elevation change. Unless I know there will be a extended downhill or jump line I don't even bother using it.. I've only been riding for 8 years, so maybe I am not yet at the skill level where it really makes a difference to my ride and lap times...It is a cool piece of tech and when I want to use it I am glad I have it, but if I removed it I doubt I would see much of a change in my riding. Sometimes I like to take my bike and keep it in one gear as if it were single speed and not use the dropper, now that can be a fun time!
I remember starting out on a old 26 wheeled hardtail. No dropper at the time. But I would raise the seat for the climbs and lower the seat for the descents. also most bikes I had, had quick release collars. thanks for bringing back the old memories, lol. Now I cant do without a dropper. lol
Dropper post is a must have for sure! Thanks for sharing the video.
Did fire mtn today. Great little area... Was chatting to one of the guys you met at the top... BC outdoor is great place for local beers after a ride, very near the trails
I honestly forget about my dropper 90% of the time. I do use it when its time to take a break though because it makes it easier to sit stationary on the bike 🤦🏾♂
Impressed with you taking lemons and making lemonade on this one. Next challenge, seat and post removed during a ride.😅
I've had dropper posts before. I wound up going back to the standard. I run a very short seat which allows me to easily get my ass behind the seat and transition back to the seat with no problems. It does take a bit of getting used to as the muscles required to get back on the seat are not strong at first but with a little time doing it, it becomes much more natural. I've got a bike with a dropper and a bike without one. I usually opt for the one without one. In the long run you will develop a higher skill level not running one. Just my experience.....
Since I don’t have a dropper and most of my ride is climbing or flat ground I only drop the seat on drops or features I’ve never done before.
@@TraviNomotion I was so used to riding without one that once I finally got one, I didn't have much use for one. I do like the ability to drop it when I want to stop and take a break. 😂 Makes it easier to get on and off the bike. 👍
Heading to Fire Mountain the first week of August. Can’t wait!
Been riding MTBs for 25 years. I have droppers on both my bikes but I dont use them much. Mostly ride XC type trails and Im very tall. I dont have issues moving around on the bike with seat up.
Same
@@tinshield must be an advantage of being tall. Im 6'4. Ill tell you the 29er wheel is the greatest innovation Ive experienced in my 25 years.
@@flyingnorseman yup. I’m 5’10” and have relatively long legs. If you started riding in the 90’s it was a different style of riding and you learned to ride with the saddle where it was. Don’t get me wrong I do like having a dropper now and use it more every day but for most of my XC type rides I use it very little. Was at the park Saturday and it was down and out of the way the whole day.
I think I get just as much of a kick out of the way you react when you get scared as I do watching the trail rides and listening to your commentary. I have ridden before there were dropper posts, but after having one on each of my most current mountain bikes, I'd never go back. I just can't imagine hitting the off-road trails without one.
I was wondering if you'd try Skilly with the seat up. Good call skipping the 2nd drop. The transition is newer but it's a bit too close and still feels like you land flat
Now ride a 71 deg HTA angle bike with a 4 in long stem and welcome to mtbing in the 90s. Lol.
Way to roll with it btw. Last week, my one week a year of being a mtb vagabond, and first ride in a place I love that I only get to ride 1x per year and I sliced my sidewall on a rock. Of course I left my tube in the truck. But, I was like- well it will be a pretty hike. And so that’s what it was until I got back and could toss in a tube. Fast forward 2 days and a lbs hooked me up with putting on the new tire I carry in my truck tubeless. And I got to meet a cool guy at the shop, found a great shop, and, since it was an Assegai that I had that is now on the rear, am getting to try that tire as a rear tire. And you know what, I think I might really like it. So you never know- sometimes something that happens that seems bad can lead to good things.
You should come out to Bike Fest WV this Fri-Sat at Big Bear Lake Campground. It’s a great time. 🤙
Haha dropper is probably the last thing I would want to do without.
what about no handlebars? 😂
@@Dasmanfred My mate tried it with no front wheel once on an old school MTB 90's.
Wheeled a drop off on some tarmac and the wheel left the fork and implanted the fork dead stop into soft tarmac and he went over the bars!
I'm not sure he bled or cried more all the way home. :(
I routinely forget about my dropper post but I started biking on an Xc hardtail and with my long legs I don’t find myself needing the clearance. However with steep terrain I definitely like having it, so I see the pros to having it for riding in mountains like you are
Seeing you hang off the back of your bike, essentially unweighting your front wheel, it was terrifying. I started MTB in the early 2000s and had never even heard of a dropper at that time, and in sharp fast turns I would lean the bike over putting the seat post behind my leg. But with modern geo and steeper seat tube angles I am not so sure that would work as well. Love the dropper! I can’t imagine riding rough terrain without one now.
Ya, I definitely think that modern geo assumes that you have a dropper. Wheel size and bottom bracket height seem to play a role too. Even though my 29er fits me way better, it feels way more off the ground than my old 26er, which I've never thought about putting a dropper on.
Try putting whatever knee is on the inside of the berm in front of the saddle and let the bike drop so that your whole body is on the side of the bike thats inside the berm and then lean into the berm! That's how I had to do it. But I was always way taller then the bikes so maybe the top tube would get in the way now.
I started mounting biking in 92. I’m trying to think how many full suspension bikes I have had. I think I’m on #5 and it’s the first one that came with a dropper. I did add a dropper to #4. And I don’t think I would want to ride without one.
At least you still had a seat. I saw a guy break his non-dropper seatpost about 6miles from trailhead on flat, super chunky terrain. He looked miserable.
my vote for a followup with 360cam-yes! Maybe take an old-skool XC HT out for a day to really appreciate how good we've got it with today's hitech squishies🤙
Been to Fire Mountain twice and it has tons of fun packed on that mountain.
So funny seeing this after riding here today..... With a dropper! 😋
Before dropper posts didn't mean we always rode with the post at full height. When you got to a downhill or a feature you would stop and manually lower your post, then when you got to a pedally section or a climb then you would stop and manually raise your post. Yes, it was an inconvenience and not practical for trails that are constantly going up and down but it you are doing a long climb up and then all down then it worked well. That was then and this is now, I won't ride without a dropper.
since im old and flexible i just take those weight adders off the day it comes home.
I just love listening to Alex's commentary. Dropper, or no Dropper.
About clipless pedals. Mine right one make clicking noise while pedaling so I switched to platforms for moment to check if it's pedal or bottom bracket bearing and did few bunny hops on platforms and it goes quite well because I was train it a bit on clipless and came to conclusion that clipless pedals gives me more control on the bike. I don't get fear of slipping my foot from pedal. I'm so used to clipless and their advantages I can't go back to platforms.
Fire Mountain trails should always be followed up with a stop at Angry Elk Brewing Co! They have a triple IPA that is amazing.
Actually good practice because it teaches you to stand taller vs getting to low
2:03 "why would anyone opt to ride without a dropper? I have no choice"
Me who can't afford one:
I just have a modestly inexpensive hardtail, but I added a dropper post to it when I bought it and it feels like a million bucks. I'd highly recommend anyone who doesn't have one to go for the upgrade before going to a whole new bike.
hahaha - great video! I think your misfortune turned a fortunate turn! love it
So when you're that far back, I think we can see the lack of control. Also, without weighting the front tire you def can't push as hard in the turns!
On today's episode, The Sampler time travels to a simpler age of Cross Country and near zero technology
That's gotta be tuff on the family jewels :)
Let's go, can't wait to get to watch this video!
Have you tried the Aenomaly Switchgrade yet? It’s a game changer on the climbs and downhill. Changing that saddle angle on the fly is awesome.
way to shake it off and enjoy the day and ride anyway!
I only recently got a dropper and was manually putting my seat down, and oh my freaking gods is it so much better with a dropper than without one.
Awesome ride
I have currently have a dropper on my bike, but I started riding way before they were a thing, 1997, and keep forgetting to use it during a ride since I’m so used to not having the option.
Alex your voice might be a couple shades higher after that ride! 🚴 My first dropper had a lever under the front of the seat with a big warning that I always ignored, something like "don't try to operate the dropper while riding..."
I've been mountain biking for 35 plus years. I agree, dropper's are a game changer and I would never go back. Before carbon fiber frames (and the worry about over torquing and cracking our frames) we just lowered our saddles before a down hill the old fashioned way with the quick release seat collar.
Only an hr from S. Asheville... I recon that's doable given I'm in Pisgah! 🤔
To be fair, pre-dropper bikes were much shorter as you normally rode off the back of the bike, and even then on sustained downhills it was normal to use your QR seat clamp to slam the saddle down. The dropper post is also why modern trail and enduro bikes are as good as they are. Riding gnarly trails on trail bikes was unthinkable 20 years ago
How about go straight throwback with some 26" full rigid on some classic SE handcut trail?
360 camera with the helmet pole to view from behind/above would be sick, kinda like a 3rd person ride view. Might be a bit uncomfortable but it could be cool to try out.
I tried a no-dropper post ride last summer and after an hour and a half, I failed that mission cause I bumped my trigger while seated.
It’s a not an easy thing to do with a working dropper.
just want to send some love. Really enjoy your Channel.
BRO!! That is unbelievably generous Bryan, thank you so much, but most of all thank you for being stoked on these silly videos I make just getting out and enjoying riding my bike in the woods. Cheers to you dude! 🍻🤘
@@The_Sampler I’m hoping we can connect sometime and ride. I follow you and Seth’s channel and absolutely love them both. I’m in Virginia Beach area. We have a few cool trails here and hope one day you can come out and ride. I need to make a trip out to Berm park and that area someday. Anyways would love to talk more sometime. Let me know a way I can send you my number so we can catch up. Hope you are doing good brother.
@@The_Sampler also I sent Seth a super thanks awhile back and never heard anything from him. I hope he got it. Let him know next time you talk to him if you don’t mind. Just want to make sure he got it.
Wow!!!
You make me remember the time I almost lose one of my balls.
Here goes what happend, if someone needs the proof I have pictures and how my leg is right now hahaha
Around 1989 or 1990, I was 11 or 12, I rise the seat of my bmx so I could climb more easy.. I jump and I lose it, I sort it out with oit problem but the bike crash against a tree, the seat twist a bit, so with the same tree I fix it (throw the bike against the tree in the opposite direction hahaha)
Jump again with no problem, and when I seat, the seat tube broke and it slice or cut my right leg (inside of it) from a few inches up my knee to about half anf inch of my right ball..
Long story short, about 20 stiches on the deep part of my leg and about 40 or 50 the skin level.
Ouch!!!
In those times we are were in hands of darwin, no helmet, no protection.. we all survive
Wow such a challenge 😂. I don't even have one bro, too much faf
Been doing the no quick release challenge even for yearsies!!
😂
An entire ride with your saddle up!?! That's not quite how it worked in 'the old school days', we did have quick releases you know...
Skilly is 🔥
Welcome to my life for the last 26 years.
Omg a few reusable zip ties solve this problem. Through the seat and through the frame.
Or even a bit of duck tap.
Wow, this ride Alex sounds like me on my early 2000s 26" dual suspension bike, maybe it actually is the tech and i should upgrade?
I'm just glad you're not riding that ebike you had. Cue the ebiker backlash in 3....2.....1
Was this the weekend before the 4th?
I think I would have pulled post out and lowered dropper without cable. Funny I say that, I started mtb in 1984.
I love watching your videos can you get a bmx next time you buy a bike.
Ah yes.. I remember the saddle to the stomach position lmfao
Are you going to Whistler this year?
This title made me click. I used to have no dropper and ride XC marathons, but clipless pedals help A LOT with that. I could go quite fast on the downhills like that and do some drops and steep sections with no problem.
What happen with the Kenevo?
I don't have a dropper and I just run my post all the way down at all times. I suffer on climbs. Am I just dumb for going about it this way lol?
That was my first thought - where's the helmet !!!!
"the key is to get behind the saddle" no, it isnt, thats how you get a saddle to the jewels, i found that out the hard way lmao. I just get off and manually lower my seat post now lmao
haha i have done that
Been riding so long that we all learned to ride without droppers... Like you learned, you just get behind the saddle.
BALLS...
you don't have a spare cable in your kit? it costs cents and doesn't either weight anything nor does it take a lot of space....
Lol
Single track sampler and the fine print were separated at birth! 😅😂
i live in Alabama so i don’t have much a need for a dropper. i have one on my hardtail.
Saddles were more narrow back then...
i never had a dropper post or full suspension
Wouldn’t lowering your seat by a few inches solve some of the problems. Yes it wouldn’t be as efficient climbing, but it should make the downhill cornering a bit easier.
He cant, dropper is slammed against the collar and lever is broken
@@olieko your right. Sorry, I didn’t realize that. I don’t have a dropper post on my hard tail so that’s how I get by. I just noticed that he raised the seat to the usual height that he climbs with.
why wouldn't you have your sadle low all the time instead of dropping and raising it while riding?
odd challenge lol
I’ve never rode with a dropper. Essentially what’s the benefits?
Your seat height changes a lot of things. When you go uphill having your seat height at the maximum for your legs gives you more power and makes climbing easier but when going downhill you want your seat post to be as low as possible so you have space to move your body around where you need to. Your seat post being too high can result it it making contact with your butt as you're going down rocks or something chunky and then encourage you to go over the handlebars. A dropper post lets you raise or lower the seat post with just a flick of the thumb.
It transforms the way you ride. I don't live in a mountainous area and the trails I ride are short technical climbs followed by short technical descents , having a dropper post means I can keep riding up and down without needing to stop to adjust the seat or having to compromise between pedaling and freedom of movement.
I used to think they were overrated (who pays 100+ for a heavy seatpost right!?) but now it's the one part on my bike I love the most!
@@NearEDGE This helps so much! thanks!
Modern bikes are so much worse with the saddle up because they're so long. The long reach doesn't work without droppers. 90s. 2000s bikes were short and u could easily get the saddle in your chest abs sit right on the back wheel... and that's low cuz its a 26
Also. We all had quick release seatpost clamps.
Welcome to the 80/90's. Just lock out your suspension for full old school affect...
You should put... where you are riding... in the title... videos are great.. but still would be nice to know where you are from the title itself!! Thanks.
Hey dude! I just got onto Trailforks pro so keep an eye out in the description and I'll do my best to link to the trails being ridden in each vid for ya!
@@The_Sampler Ok cool. Thanks. Also, do you do consultations on how to "live this life?" Just the realities of it.. I can PayPal you $$$ for like an hour of time or something. I just want to hear all the shit.
But I know it's the perfect life for me broadly heh..
Me with an xc bike
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could you just lower the seat and ride?
Dude, don't risk your junk like that again.
First! If that still matters haha
Can confirm your are indeed first, well played!
@@The_Sampler Score! What did I win!? lol
Ive never had one, used one once on a buddys bike & dont see a need for it. Ill never have a dropper🙄 seems pointless to me
Good for you
Holy crap that was hair-raising, lol!🫣😱 To answer your question would I like more of it, I think “like” is a strong word, I’m not in this sport for the fear factor, but I would definitely watch it. 😅 My fave part of it was actually the proactive focus pivot, shite happened and you were like “Okay, we’re gonna make some lemonade today!” I super dig that unstoppable vibe, keep it up! 🤘💯🍋💩
Seeing you hang off the back of your bike, essentially unweighting your front wheel, it was terrifying. I started MTB in the early 2000s and had never even heard of a dropper at that time, and in sharp fast turns I would lean the bike over putting the seat post behind my leg. But with modern geo and steeper seat tube angles I am not so sure that would work as well. Love the dropper! I can’t imagine riding rough terrain without one now.