I feel like AMD suit mini PC's better due to the performance being higher during low power situations / < 65w scenario . Also the iGPU is miles better than Intel's and way more optimised in many games , you can easily play Forza in medium or high settings 1080p
PLEASE, are these mini PC's capable of streaming 4K movies from them to the TV without any problems? From a Plex multimedia server and the movies copies onto the m.2 of the mini pc.
Looks nice, but I am a bit disappointed that you did not show/check heating and noise from this thing. Would be really interesting to compare to other PC, laptops, Mac.
@@isaboor8270 Yes this model is a very LOUD dud. Send it back if you can. The IT11 i7 is good. The IT12 range apparently has the same LOUD fan issues from what I've read?
Very nice IAM very interested in the specs of the sound card and if the music output goes up to 24bit 192khz ? How it could be connected to a modern amp which has WiFi or ethernet and play high resolution sound ?
Your video is so well thought out. Literally everything I was thinking was covered sequentially so kudos to you Also an AMD option would be epic with an external GPU being the icing on the cake
If you want to boot from the sd card for batocera forget it. This device WILL NOT boot and the bios has been severely restricted on uefi and legacy mode options
I literally have watched countless videos trying to understand what runs on a mini pc I just purchased. The one I bought is an Intel core i9 11900H 8c/16t 16g 512ssd. Can this run Beamng Drive(I know this game is older) and other games that are newer and are soon to come out?
I'm looking for a mini PC that can be a media player, serving the UHD LG TV in my lounge. The media would be UHD HEVC (H265) 10 bit colour depth at 50 frames per second. I understand that HDMI 2.0 can just about cope with this throughput, so the real question is whether the graphics on this little beast can cope. If it can, then this is a real contender to satisfy my needs.
Hi, This is really really very Good explanation. I have one question: Can I upgrade the RAM, if yes then how I can upgrade AND do the heat sink works properly or I will need a extra heat sink to apply externally. Thanks Kushal
TRUALLY VERRY APRECIATIVE for any constructive hints please : Is HP Z2 G9 Mini i9 RTX A3000 64Ram pretty much equivalent stuff ? (I 'need' it to be as portable as possible.) (I plan it for exclusively individual extensive fineart photography editing and printing with high end Eizo monitor 2700X)
Your review is really welcoming. I hope it's true with the Mini IT13, i9 I bought. I have been using IT13-i9 for about less than 2 weeks for web surfing and EMR. No games and or extra software installed. I am unsure if mine is defective, But the computer is very slow. When I ran the speedometer test, it crushed most of the time, and other times it gave low scores. I am in contact with Geekom customer service, and they telling me to "..computer has used too much memory so it can't continue to load web pages. You can try to check the memory usage in Task Manager and close the program that is using too much memory or restart your computer to free up the memory. If the problem still persists, you can try using some software to detect and clean junk files and cache in your system to optimize your computer performance." I RESET the computer, still all the problem persists.
HOw it run Photoshop/Lr? My 2018 gaming laptop i7 is getting super hot and slowing down it performance,...and this could be my choice!. And can you plug a Samsung 870 QVO 8tb on a drive enclosure?
linus did a review on this or different brand that they used i9 and it performed so bad because the bios limits the cpu so much you would be lacking alot and getting a i7 would give you more performance lol
so glad i bought this PC... more than enough for my setup. why shld my pc be $10k to use illustrator & photoshop? also this video does confirm my research comparing all mini pc brands... this was my ultimate dream setup! i don't game or video edit (yet) . also wonder if anyone has experience running fusion360??????? or other high end 3d cad?????? thx for the info!
I have one of these enjoyed it for 8 months then it stopped and support sent me a link to load OS on a SSD I was instructed I needed to purchase. Not a great customer experience.
@@GEEKOMPC Well as I bought one, IT13 i9, I know what they are complaining about. This computer is easily the noisiest computer I ever owned. The fan never turns off and it is LOUD under any condition. For reasons unknown you can not go into the BIOS to adjust it as GEEKOM have configured WIN 11 to not have access to the UEFI tab. The whole situation is bizarre?
@@Neil-Aspinall Wow, that's shocking. I thought one was able to enter the BIOS with the esc key? I've read some Amazon reviews where people did adjust their fan settings in the BIOS, after contacting customer support. Although maybe that might have been another version? I would try to reach out to customer support. I've read that customer support was good and helped people accomplish this (again from Amazon reviews). Although it concerns me that people like you, that have recently purchased one; are still experiencing loud fan noise. You would have figured that they would have addressed this and fixed that before leaving their factory. Being they've had a history of, louder than usual fan noise. Which in turn, shy's me away from purchasing one. Everything else looks/seems pretty good [?]
@@BumpNrun69 Mmmm good luck with 'customer support' all they ever did is give me the run around and refused to answer a straight question. On my version of WIN 11 there was no tab for the UEFI BIOS selection. Believe me I watched many tutorials about the subject (no thanks to GEEKOM) and strangely all the WIN11 settings were unlike mine due to GEEKOM's initial set up I presume? I think they don't want you playing with the fan settings due to the fact that if you were able to run the computer in a quiet mode if would simply over heat and freeze etc? When it vcame to getting the money back that was quite the procedure. To be honest though I earlier in the year (2023) bought their IT11 i7 and the fan is significantly quieter and so far a pretty good computer but...... Two strange things happen with it, although you can turn the spell checker on you can only get the pre emptive checker to work. The normal spell checker that shows you after what you've spelt wrong does not work ( I have tried many combinations of the settings to make it work but nothing except as mentioned) 2. If you watch a few RUclips vids in a row the video and audio looses sync. The only way to fix it is to refresh the page. I can put up with these problems as for the money you get a lot of computer in a small package. Good luck but I'd go IT11 not IT13. (Tech reviewers have said the i9 versions are no faster anyway in real life)
I bought the i7 and even after a bios update the fan is always running even when the system is idle. It's not horrible noisy but I don't expect a fan to need to run all the time. Trying to work out what to do next. Will the i5 be better or should I switch to a Ryzen?
Considerations Before Purchasing This Computer: Firstly, the cooling system is a notable concern, as the fan is not sufficiently effective in dissipating heat. This limitation results in the CPU being thermally throttled to approximately 35 watts, leading to reduced processing speeds. Additionally, despite the CPU's compatibility with DDR5 memory, this computer is equipped with DDR4 RAM. This is a significant factor as DDR4 is 50% slower than DDR5, potentially impacting overall performance.
iI bought one a couple of days ago, and it constanbtlky crashes and tries to repair its self, taking sometimes hours (if your lucky) to do so. Basically all you get is a black screen. . I have lost over £700 on this. Its a disaster. I can't recommend it.
Please test battery test 60hz against 120hz and dark theme against white. It would be interesting to see if there any difference today with the new screens.
Don’t buy this! We purchased multiple for an AV install. All of their power supplies failed and sent too much voltage to the power supply seating on the enclosure. Now we have multiple Geekom PCs that are completely fried because they aren’t properly manufactured to handle any kind of nominal voltage.
Hi everyone, I need a mini PC to mine Bitcoin Cash and Ethereum Classic, can anyone tell me if this mini PC can be useful to me? I intend to buy GEEKOM Mini IT13 SSDi9-13900H 32GB RAM + 2TB SSD! thank you all
I've had this computer and the IT11 i7. To be honest I would stick with the IT11 series as they have a MUCH quieter fan. The IT13 is unbelievably LOUD. Also the difference in power is nominal.
I9 crushes M2 in raw performance fool. And don't forget that M2 can't game, has zero upgradeability and still costs more money. The only think better about will be the video editing and coding performance.
Every 13th/14th gen i9 is gonna crush the M2, even the maxed out M2 Max in raw CPU performance. Apple takes the lead in performance per watt energy drawn, not in the raw performance department, that goes to i9. For iGPUs apple takes the lead and trades blow with any AMD iGPUs.
I miss seeing content like this. It is so refreshing. Thank you PhoneBuff!
I feel like AMD suit mini PC's better due to the performance being higher during low power situations / < 65w scenario . Also the iGPU is miles better than Intel's and way more optimised in many games , you can easily play Forza in medium or high settings 1080p
So true. They should review the RDNA3 graphics one with 7940Hs. It can match entry level desktop GPUs.
Great.
Very excited for Intel Core ULTRA Meteor Lake
Look's good for a media PC under the TV.
PLEASE, are these mini PC's capable of streaming 4K movies from them to the TV without any problems?
From a Plex multimedia server and the movies copies onto the m.2 of the mini pc.
Can you upgrade to DDR5?
Could we know the model of the keyboard and the screen too please?
Holy moly perfect timing
you are soo lucky mate
Looks nice, but I am a bit disappointed that you did not show/check heating and noise from this thing. Would be really interesting to compare to other PC, laptops, Mac.
This IT13 i9 easily has the LOUDEST fan you will come across. It never shuts up, it's like constant white noise. It went back.
The one (IT13, i9, 32 GB) I bought is very slow, and the noise is significantly noticeable while using multiple web pages.
@@isaboor8270 Yes this model is a very LOUD dud. Send it back if you can. The IT11 i7 is good. The IT12 range apparently has the same LOUD fan issues from what I've read?
Very nice IAM very interested in the specs of the sound card and if the music output goes up to 24bit 192khz ? How it could be connected to a modern amp which has WiFi or ethernet and play high resolution sound ?
Where can I get that excel file 😄
Only catch: feels like the sun when idling
Really?
I got this for my wife over a year ago. This thing runs better than my Steam Deck.
So looking forward to this.
When will be the "Drop Test"?
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Your video is so well thought out. Literally everything I was thinking was covered sequentially so kudos to you
Also an AMD option would be epic with an external GPU being the icing on the cake
Thanks!
hope they make theese design and size for ext gpu also, not big chungky like current ext gpu, then use tb 5 next time
I love your thumbnail.
Can anyone tell me if you can connect wired external speakers (not bluetooth) to this?
Is the excel file that you use for tests available for downloading? If yes, where can it be found?
If you want to boot from the sd card for batocera forget it. This device WILL NOT boot and the bios has been severely restricted on uefi and legacy mode options
6:53 GTA guy is funny though😂
With egpu that is very small build and that's very handy. Can try to modify case to add full tower cooler to cpu😅
That would be interesting.
Can you please recommend a mini pc that I can use as a android tv box. That I can game with that is upgradeable. With dolby vision and dolby atmos
Why don't u compare with mac mini m2?
I literally have watched countless videos trying to understand what runs on a mini pc I just purchased. The one I bought is an Intel core i9 11900H 8c/16t 16g 512ssd. Can this run Beamng Drive(I know this game is older) and other games that are newer and are soon to come out?
I'm looking for a mini PC that can be a media player, serving the UHD LG TV in my lounge. The media would be UHD HEVC (H265) 10 bit colour depth at 50 frames per second. I understand that HDMI 2.0 can just about cope with this throughput, so the real question is whether the graphics on this little beast can cope. If it can, then this is a real contender to satisfy my needs.
How will this run as a dedicated streaming pc? With a capture card
Could I connect an apple studio display to this as it needs a thunderbolt so I can use the screen, mic and webcame thats integrated?
Hi, This is really really very Good explanation. I have one question: Can I upgrade the RAM, if yes then how I can upgrade AND do the heat sink works properly or I will need a extra heat sink to apply externally. Thanks Kushal
Would this be a good option to run something like blender or z brush.
Is this i9 same with desktop class?
What is the make and model of your eGPU?
800 dollars that’s crazy
can I connect external speakers to the IT13?
And when it completely fails and you spend months trying to prove it to Geekom then you realize you fucked up
I'm very concerned about heating issue for this system machine. Uhhhhh can it run game ?
TRUALLY VERRY APRECIATIVE for any constructive hints please :
Is HP Z2 G9 Mini i9 RTX A3000 64Ram pretty much equivalent stuff ?
(I 'need' it to be as portable as possible.)
(I plan it for exclusively individual extensive fineart photography editing and printing with high end Eizo monitor 2700X)
Your review is really welcoming. I hope it's true with the Mini IT13, i9 I bought. I have been using IT13-i9 for about less than 2 weeks for web surfing and EMR. No games and or extra software installed. I am unsure if mine is defective, But the computer is very slow. When I ran the speedometer test, it crushed most of the time, and other times it gave low scores. I am in contact with Geekom customer service, and they telling me to "..computer has used too much memory so it can't continue to load web pages. You can try to check the memory usage in Task Manager and close the program that is using too much memory or restart your computer to free up the memory. If the problem still persists, you can try using some software to detect and clean junk files and cache in your system to optimize your computer performance." I RESET the computer, still all the problem persists.
Im shocked that intel no longer sells NUC product themselves. To me it feels like it's the way of the future
is there mini pc with ryzen 7 7800x3d
No mini PCs typically come with laptop processors. You may find one with 7945Hx3D
HOw it run Photoshop/Lr? My 2018 gaming laptop i7 is getting super hot and slowing down it performance,...and this could be my choice!. And can you plug a Samsung 870 QVO 8tb on a drive enclosure?
i have a question, shall we use a powerbank to use this stuff ?
If it works, it's a great thing to use as a laptop. 😋
@phonebuff Would you say this i9 in this small form factor throttles so what other have found that it's throttled to 35W TDP only ?
Would this run games like world of tanks?
Where is pixel 8 drop,speed & battery test?
Coming soon!
linus did a review on this or different brand that they used i9 and it performed so bad because the bios limits the cpu so much you would be lacking alot and getting a i7 would give you more performance lol
so glad i bought this PC... more than enough for my setup. why shld my pc be $10k to use illustrator & photoshop? also this video does confirm my research comparing all mini pc brands... this was my ultimate dream setup! i don't game or video edit (yet) . also wonder if anyone has experience running fusion360??????? or other high end 3d cad?????? thx for the info!
Nice video!
Structural Engineer here: would it be good for engineering/architecture like Revit, AutoCad, Robot etc?
Waiting for Snapdragon with Geekom.❤
Awesome video... No more mac mini m2
So how’s Street Fighter 6 run on that?
Will this be good to use for gaming such as first shooters and etc?
might be better off building a pc and looking for ddr5 ram for cheap
Yes, 1999 Unreal Tournament will run perfectly on this!
Yes, for first person shooters
I have one of these enjoyed it for 8 months then it stopped and support sent me a link to load OS on a SSD I was instructed I needed to purchase. Not a great customer experience.
So Much for a 3 year warranty
We’ve had 4 of these PCs overvolt and blow out the power supply, in turn frying the PC.
Is it true as many people say that this i9 has an incredibly loud fan that rarely turns off?
No, it's only noisy when running large software for long periods of time, office work is quiet
@@GEEKOMPC Well as I bought one, IT13 i9, I know what they are complaining about. This computer is easily the noisiest computer I ever owned. The fan never turns off and it is LOUD under any condition. For reasons unknown you can not go into the BIOS to adjust it as GEEKOM have configured WIN 11 to not have access to the UEFI tab. The whole situation is bizarre?
@@Neil-Aspinall Wow, that's shocking. I thought one was able to enter the BIOS with the esc key? I've read some Amazon reviews where people did adjust their fan settings in the BIOS, after contacting customer support. Although maybe that might have been another version? I would try to reach out to customer support. I've read that customer support was good and helped people accomplish this (again from Amazon reviews).
Although it concerns me that people like you, that have recently purchased one; are still experiencing loud fan noise. You would have figured that they would have addressed this and fixed that before leaving their factory. Being they've had a history of, louder than usual fan noise. Which in turn, shy's me away from purchasing one. Everything else looks/seems pretty good [?]
@@BumpNrun69 Mmmm good luck with 'customer support' all they ever did is give me the run around and refused to answer a straight question. On my version of WIN 11 there was no tab for the UEFI BIOS selection. Believe me I watched many tutorials about the subject (no thanks to GEEKOM) and strangely all the WIN11 settings were unlike mine due to GEEKOM's initial set up I presume? I think they don't want you playing with the fan settings due to the fact that if you were able to run the computer in a quiet mode if would simply over heat and freeze etc? When it vcame to getting the money back that was quite the procedure. To be honest though I earlier in the year (2023) bought their IT11 i7 and the fan is significantly quieter and so far a pretty good computer but...... Two strange things happen with it, although you can turn the spell checker on you can only get the pre emptive checker to work. The normal spell checker that shows you after what you've spelt wrong does not work ( I have tried many combinations of the settings to make it work but nothing except as mentioned) 2. If you watch a few RUclips vids in a row the video and audio looses sync. The only way to fix it is to refresh the page. I can put up with these problems as for the money you get a lot of computer in a small package. Good luck but I'd go IT11 not IT13. (Tech reviewers have said the i9 versions are no faster anyway in real life)
I bought the i7 and even after a bios update the fan is always running even when the system is idle. It's not horrible noisy but I don't expect a fan to need to run all the time. Trying to work out what to do next. Will the i5 be better or should I switch to a Ryzen?
How hot did the IT13 get??
It didn’t really get that hot, even under load. The TDP limits keep it running cool for the most part.
Very I'd say as the loud fan never turns off.
Considerations Before Purchasing This Computer: Firstly, the cooling system is a notable concern, as the fan is not sufficiently effective in dissipating heat. This limitation results in the CPU being thermally throttled to approximately 35 watts, leading to reduced processing speeds. Additionally, despite the CPU's compatibility with DDR5 memory, this computer is equipped with DDR4 RAM. This is a significant factor as DDR4 is 50% slower than DDR5, potentially impacting overall performance.
Beware - the fan on this computer never turns off and it is LOUD!
Yes! And we’ve had multiple that have blown power supplies and have completely fried the computer
How much fps does this get on fortnite
Can it run vr
iI bought one a couple of days ago, and it constanbtlky crashes and tries to repair its self, taking sometimes hours (if your lucky) to do so. Basically all you get is a black screen. . I have lost over £700 on this. Its a disaster. I can't recommend it.
Blown away by this tiny thing
Blown away is an apt description as the fan that never turns off is LOUD!
Nobody evere mentions that the CPU in this thing is a mobile or laptop CPU. Even a desktop i5 is more powerful than this mobile i9.
Expected to come With arc mobile graphics 4gb it will be worth to buy this for casual gaming low to high settings 1080p 🎉🎉🎉
800 is shocking
Please test battery test 60hz against 120hz and dark theme against white. It would be interesting to see if there any difference today with the new screens.
That i9 is barely more powerfull than my ryzen 7 5700h lol. 10 500 pt on cinebench r23.... at 45w
geekom like it
really cool specs, but they should hire a team to design it better.. It looks ugly on desk...
Should’ve had Nvidia GeForce rtx graphics at least
Xiaomi 13t pro (Dimensity 9000+) vs Xiaomi 13 pro (snapdragon 8 gen 2) speed test!
Don’t buy this! We purchased multiple for an AV install. All of their power supplies failed and sent too much voltage to the power supply seating on the enclosure. Now we have multiple Geekom PCs that are completely fried because they aren’t properly manufactured to handle any kind of nominal voltage.
I thought these mini PCs heavily throttled these Intel CPUs, thus making them not so effective. AMD works better, right?
Thermals just can't be it💀
You should do more of this unbox therapy type videos. Your videos are enjoyable unlike them.
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😂 are you kidding? its a mobile CPU, you can do microsoft word on it smooth, otherwise is shit, get 13900k the real medium CPU
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Hi everyone, I need a mini PC to mine Bitcoin Cash and Ethereum Classic, can anyone tell me if this mini PC can be useful to me? I intend to buy GEEKOM Mini IT13 SSDi9-13900H 32GB RAM + 2TB SSD! thank you all
I've had this computer and the IT11 i7. To be honest I would stick with the IT11 series as they have a MUCH quieter fan. The IT13 is unbelievably LOUD. Also the difference in power is nominal.
Nobody wants an i9 when an M2 with ARM architecture is still better.
I9 crushes M2 in raw performance fool. And don't forget that M2 can't game, has zero upgradeability and still costs more money.
The only think better about will be the video editing and coding performance.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat wrong
Every 13th/14th gen i9 is gonna crush the M2, even the maxed out M2 Max in raw CPU performance.
Apple takes the lead in performance per watt energy drawn, not in the raw performance department, that goes to i9. For iGPUs apple takes the lead and trades blow with any AMD iGPUs.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat You're right, I wish there were more people who understood.
Google luck playing PC games on that closed ecosystem. 😂
AMD one is MUCH better
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Dealing with this company is a nightmare. I ordered a PC July 25th, and still have not received it.