The development of the Naval Shell - Stop poking holes in my ship!
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2020
- Today we take a speed-run through the development of naval anti-ship ammunition from 1850-1950, focusing on amour-piercing ammunition.
Sources:
NAVAL ORDNANCE 1937 - CHAPTER XIII
TREATISE ON AMMUNITION - 10th EDITION - WAR OFFICE, 1915
www.navweaps.com/index_tech/te...
www.amazon.co.uk/Naval-Firepower-Battleship-Dreadnought-Friedman/dp/B00FBQO6SK
www.amazon.co.uk/Warrior-Dreadnought-Warship-Development-1860-1905/dp/1848320868
www.amazon.co.uk/Before-Ironclad-D-K-Brown/dp/1848322585
The Riddle of the Shells, by Iain McCallum - 3 part series in Warship 2002-2003, 2004 and 2005
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Pinned post for Q&A :)
You mentioned couple of times, that if transported to WW2, you would choose US BB (forgot witch one), because nobody was killed aboard during the war. I read that same was true for HMS Jarvis. Why not UK ship instead? Is my information wrong?
@@nenad8845 Massachusetts is bigger and has ice cream :D
After the battle of the Denmark straight. Why didn't the british took advantage of Bismarck turning towards them, to distract from the Prinze Eugen, to attack it 3 on 1??
it's well known about the British shells at Jutland bursting on impact, I wonder if there is enough information to say what damage could have been caused to the High Seas Fleet if, for example, the later improved (green boy?) shells had been available to the Grand Fleet? 36.42 of your video alludes to maybe half a dozen sinkings but a more in depth investigation would be interesting
here's a simple aircraft carrier question why did the IJN build half there fleet carriers with islands on opposite sides
I love how nonchalantly Drach lists “people” as a form of object aboard ship that burns
Based
The book Ignition! has a similar line in it. It describes how fluorine has a nasty habit of setting organic stuff on fire, including cotton, rubber, and engineers.
The screaming Alfa fire.
He isn't wrong though
@@dylantowers9367 that book is awesome
Government official: "We want our cannonball to be rounded iron spheres."
Cannonball producer: "Well they're more like guidelines really."
With out machining it's rather hard to make a solid metal round ball.
Crews would literally hammer the iron shot into shape. They would also measure the shot and choose the ones that were the best size (and shape) for their particular gun. These shot would be the ones stacked on the "brass monkey" to be used first. (although they would sometimes fire a couple of less good shot initially to warm the gun before using the more accurate "best" shot).
@@dimesonhiseyes9134 Actually, it's surprisingly easy, for a given value of "round". Shot towers take advantage of the tendency of liquids, including molten metals, to form spherical drops when allowed to fall freely under gravity. Whilst the products were rarely perfect spheres, the cannon the balls were being fired from were hardly precision engineered either
@@talltroll7092 Now show me the shot tower that can form 10-20 pound solid iron cannonballs. Thing would collapse under its own weight, because you'd have to build taller than the Burj Khalifa.
What I'm trying to say is that the shot tower concept does not scale well.
Even lead buckshot requires a very tall tower indeed, and it only gets worse with a material with higher melting temperatures and larger size shot.
You'd need a tower several kilometers tall to form something that could be fired out of even a parrot gun, let alone a full-on cannon.
So you stick to molds for cannonballs and hammer out the imperfections as best you're able to measure them.
@@talltroll7092 with lead shot you are correct. However that is not how they made iron shot for naval guns. It's more or less impossible to make shot that large using a drop method even with lead, which has a much lower melting point.
Iron balls were made the old fashioned way of casting.
Already looking forward to The History of Naval Provisions - Why is the rum always gone?
Sea gremlins
Sounds like the perfect subject for a Wednesday Rum Ration
Spirited away?
@@benwilson6145 oh you.
Same
"Really the only thing you can do is just build an even bigger gun"
Orks: I LIKE DIS PLAN, 'UMMIE
Also Orks: OR YOUSE COULD SEND OVER A FEW NOBS WIT' POWER KLAWS TA KRUMP 'EM PROPER. MEBBE YA COULD BUILD A GUN WHAT FIRES NOBS AT STUFF?
Origin of Ork boarding torpedoes and drop pods, which are basically the same thing pointed at different targets.
Or DEY SHULD PAINT DA DAKKA YELLOW!
@@connormclernon26 RED WUNZ GO FASTA, YA BAD MOON GIT! :)
U SEE, ROIGHT, IF WE STUCK SUM REAL GOOD AN ’ARD TEEF ON DA FRONT OF DA BOMBZ, DEY’LL GO FRU ANYFIN!
"And if that don't work, use more gun."
At a local foundry a 60 pound James round came in during the scrap metal drives during WWII. Being wise and prudent this shell was put aside. Years later we found the current foundry owner trying to remove the contact fuse. We persuaded him to think better of it.
So we have gone from 'stop blowing my masts up' to 'stop poking holes in my ship'. I reckon the next one will be 'stop shining lasers at my missiles'
Is that Children of a Dead Earth reference?
I believe the next is: 'Stop firing your railgun at my hull'
@@yulu803 another CoaDE fan in the wild! Oh shit! That game is unfortunately not nearly popular enough
@@eligedzelman5127 Probably because it has some serious issues. I lost count of the number of time I had to re-try one mission. The AI ship I was supposed to disable kept flying into an asteroid. The game is also about as dense and impenetrable as naval armour.
@@mrturtlebobington Yes, the amout of pre-reading is basically 1st year university astrophysics.
37:19 "But, with Jellicoe promoted to First Sea Lord and, in at least this matter, with the support of Beatty..."
The shade never stops.
I love this. This is absolutely lovely. There is absolutely no reason for me to know anything about face hardened steel plating or semi armor piercing ammunition but yet here I am spending hours upon hours learning about such topics.
It's intheresting tho!
Maybe not at the moment, but I'd bet that it won't be that long until your understanding of the topic comes in handy in daily life!
Ahh , But what a great topic for a wee dram and a good cigar with friends.
Maybe we all secretly want to build our own battleships and this is the best way to get a basic knowledge of how to build one
I did not even serve in army nor navy (because I was incabable) and so I have zero knowledge about any weaponry science ... except what I read in a few books, and: what Drach is explaining to us. In my naive view, I thought the only reason why the ball was replaced by a "longshot" was aerodynamics ...
"If you roll enough dice, you will eventually get some natural 20s."
Sorry what does that mean????
@@bpetnoi1472 it refers to the 20-sided dice used in Dungeons and Dragons and many other games for rolling to hit your target. A natural roll of 20 usually results in a critical hit, doing extra damage.
A long time ago, I was in this one Shadowrun game. I was playing the Decker, and I had managed to get 20 dice for this really important roll. I needed ONE DAMN SIX, but did I GET IT? Of course not!
@@evensgrey I feel you. On the flipside, I was playing Exalted once, and managed 15 successes on 15 dice, destroying a ballista targeting the boat I was on with a sling and a small glass marble (I was actually out of sling stones). Bear in mind Exalted uses 10-siders and for a success they have to come up 7 or higher...
Straight from the man himself
LMAO at "militant ballast".....you have quite the way with words.
"If you roll enough dice, you will eventually get some natural 20s." I see you are a fellow man of culture.
47 minutes of Drach teaching the history of Naval DAKKA
Unlimited Cannonshot Works
Which begs the question: Why did the Americans make the "Great White Fleet" when they could have gone with the "Great Red Fleet"? Would provide a bonus to speed and rate of fire... though of course at a penalty of a slightly higher chance of Communism. :P
Not quite DAKKA, more Da....K...K...A!, (sounds of shells and powder on their way up)...reload, wait for it, wait for it! Da....K..K...A! ( recalibrate everything, smoke is everywhere, wind has increased, enemy has changed tack. Repeat.
@@neilwilson5785 Wait...... the 'ell is dis "calibra....."? Oh, youz mean aimin..... dats for dem guard gits, just point it and booms!
TOO LONG
NOT ENOUGH DAKKA
A fascinating time to be an engineer, metallurgist or chemist working on shell and armour development. But, probably very frustrating trying to get the old fogies in the admiralty to adopt new ideas!
Poor John Jellicoe, he pushes for more effective large calibre shells, but gets promoted to command the Grand Fleet, so nothing changes. Then, when the outcome of Jutland is disappointing, due in no small part to the mediocre large calibre shells, he gets the blame and (mediocre) Beatty gets his job. That's life!!
I had to laugh, just a little, when you said they weren't impressed with TNT compared to other HE types.
When calculating how much ordinance you need for a demo job, ALL explosives are compared to TNT. It's RE factor (relative effectiveness) is 1.0. A job calls for X pounds of TNT and you use the RE factor to calculate how much of what's available you need for the mission.
I'm just easily amused lol
Well yes there are many different explosive compounds which provide a greater force to mass ratio than standered tnt . TNT is only used as a base measurement as 1 it is relatively simple and easy to make in large quantity’s and 2 it was discovered before a majority of other explosives making it the default standered and 3 relatively speaking it is a stable compound which makes it suited to demolition and other tasks where the exact weight of the explosives has little impact on its performance
@@andrewgraham6006 you're not wrong on any particular point. My post was just about TNT being the default we use when calculating a job.
Example: task order comes in, Z needs to go away. Look in a FM to see how much ordinance is required to blow up a Z of the size in front of us. It says you should use 100lbs of tnt. We don't have any TNT on the truck. We've got a shit load of C4. C4 has an RE factor of 1.34.
100÷1.34=74.6lbs round off to 75lbs
Stack it, prime it, boom. Miller time.
The books give all requirements based on using tnt for the job, if for no other reason than a manual that lists each available types of ordinance on every job type is going to be many pages longer. Give one amount then trust us to do the simple math.
Of course, there are jobs where TNT isn't the best choice. Moving a big ass rock for example. ANFO is a much slower blast so it is more likely to just move the rock where C4 would shatter it. Now you've got a bunch of heavy fragments to move but they're too small to justify a second shot. But, the book is still going to list the ordinance req based on TNT because it's the standard. So take that number and divide by 0.42.
This is what i meant by TNT being the standard. It's just a fixed variable.
@@Damocles54 Miller time. I like that.
@@kennethdeanmiller7324 lol oh man, i bet that old commercial has haunted you a significant portion of your life.
But I'll argue that right after blowing shit up, it's definitely miller time. It's also not a bad idea to phone ahead to the wife or girlfriend and suggest she does some yoga, or at least some stretching exercises so's to avoid pulling any muscles lol.
TNT: The OG Viagra
@@Damocles54 *nitroglycerin quietly seeping from the dynamite stick*
This is why I love RUclips documentaries. Actually goes into detail. Wastes no time with filler material.
I feel like a broken record saying the same thing every time but the quality of your content is top notch. For the upcoming video on special shells I propose: japanese sanshiki (like you said), japanese diving shells, colored dye packs, flares and gas generators, and the french variable time fuses of the dunkerques.
I love the picture of the massive shell with the back half shattered... There's barely a dent or a scratch on the front of it!! That's a lot of hard steel
15:18 If that's the one you're talking about, I've rested my hand on that shell fragment many many times over the years. That's a fragment from a US 16" AP shell that was dug out of the French battleship Jean Bart and returned to us after the USS Massachusetts opened fire on her at Casablanca and struck her several times with the main battery. That fragment is displayed on the deck mounted onto turret #3. :) I have 35mm film pictures of me as a toddler touching it, and I have pictures all the way up to me as an 18 year old standing next to it which was when I last visited and touched it. I love Big Mamie. I really miss going to see this fragment as well as the twisted piece of deck armor that was damaged by the shore battery hit to an empty barracks. I miss saying hi to George the Gremlin on the forward turret, and tracking the cars on Braga Bridge with one of the 40mm Bofors mounts or a 20mm Oerlikon pretending they were Japanese planes. Museum ships are absolutely incredible. Battleship Cove was what got me to fall in love with military history, naval ships, and WW2. It was always incredible stepping aboard the Massachusetts and thinking "This exact ship beneath my feet fired the first and last US 16" shell of WW2 and never lost a man the entire time."
I love that a 48 minute video about naval shells gets 85K views. If Jellicoe's paperwork for better shells for the Royal Navy had as much attention as this video, then Jutland would have been somewhat different.
He’s in the millions now!
Remind me not to play tennis with Drach.
If you absolutely have to, then upgrade from cardboard armour. Hardboard might do the trick?
The pins will penetrate the cardboard armour
@@billgates2903 Yes. That is why I suggested upgrading from that, to something more durable.
Although I would have expected you to focus more on the movement problems accorded to hardboard armour.
@@Temp0raryName Just add extra space behind the armour. Long enough for the needles to lose momentum.
Poor Drach needs a new tennis ball! 🎾
5:50 Hey! That's the shot oven in my town, St. Augustine, Florida at the Castillo de San Marcos!
The oven is still there, positioned behind battlements by the harbor, but outside of the fort proper. Now I know why.
I visited that fort on a trip last winter. Cool place.
Also one at Fort Niagara. I still don’t get how to load it, without igniting powder.
@@robertewalt7789 Wet pad between powder and hot shot is what I remember from Hornblower.
The US Super heavy shells were designed to be able to go through anything that was on the drawing board as a ship prior to WW2 in battleships. They had the capacity to punch through 27 inches of armor at 16k yards. We recovered the turret face armor of the Shinaro the 3rd Yamato class that was converted to a carrier. A 16 in superheavy penned it like it wasn't there.
What was your job title0 b guy.mmm go 4r4 FC
Keep in mind, that test took place under unrealistic (point blank range, armour not inclined) conditions, so it isn’t the best indicator of how effective the 16” superheavy was (in spite of it being frequently used to argue that point); in fact the NavWeaps article discussing this exact test points out the result was highly misleading for this reason.
The 16” superheavy could still punch through all belt and deck armour ever put on a ship, but there were a few other guns that could also do this, including the Italian 15” gun.
@@bkjeong4302 Of course, the American 16s could actually _hit_ the ship carrying that belt and deck armor... the Italian 15 not so much.
Also, those test conditions, although generally unrealistic, could _theoretically_ happen in actual battle (Yamato and Iowa run across each other at point-blank range in a storm, both sides aim their guns at each other and open fire, and Yamato happens to take a clean hit to a turret faceplate at an instant when she's momentarily rolled 45 degrees towards Iowa by the violent sea conditions).
I begin to understand my father's excited chattering at the various coastal forts and floating museums watching your channel. Excellent work
I’m building a battleship made of glow stone in Minecraft, but I still wanted a lot of realistic details. This series is perfect for reference thanks so much
"... more like a militant form of ballast..."😂😂😂
At least once in every Rum Ration Drach cracks me up!:-) Militant ballast bwha
It's a tough gig staying up too late on work nights watching Drachs videos but someone has to do it
@@lostalone9320 I'm on the east coast of Australia
"Upcoming- 5hrs on the history of the Paixhans gun in the 1849 Battle of the Eckernforde." *I start salivating like a pitbull at a pig roast*
I wasn't expecting that ending.
And I applaud you for it.
oh snap
Yes, please, more shell videos in the immediate future! I truly enjoy the details of all the machinery and weaponry in the videos. Ordnance and gunnery are my favorites. I know I'm a small fish in a large ocean but maybe you'll see my request. Thank you so much for your high quality content. Cheers from the States.
"if you roll many dices, you get enough natural twenties" XD Drach, I knew you were from ours.
11:40 Differential cooling, especially cooled casting forms, was used also by Oliver farm equipment to make plowshares, it was perfected to the point that in many places even into the 1990's local foundries were still making plows using the iron casting technique globally. The process is rather well described and had the result that it produced iron castings with surface hardnesses much like Prince Rupert drops except on the level of iron. Oliver is responsible for making farming viable almost anywhere on Earth with that plow.
Ditto for railroad wheels of the period. They would be cast in a mold that was sand in the middle but iron at the rim so the tread would cool faster and be harder -- more wear resistant.
Nowadays they simply press a yellow-hot billet into a die, roll it while still hot, then machine the final profile.
ruclips.net/video/ui--zx1RmDU/видео.html
Got a link? PDF/textbooks preferred.
Being an ex-sailor, I found this fascinating. I was on an SSN, so we had no guns. When we were in port, I could see the Naval guns, but never got a close look at them. I was wondering about the history of the AP shell. This was an excellent source. And I watched it all the way through at one sitting.
The channel has an excellent video on the infamous Mark 14 Torpedo, the bane of the US submarine fleet.
You definitely gave us more than an empty shell here. I really like the spin you put in the topic. I was fuzed to my couch for the entire episode!
This is terrible. You should feel bad.
@@owenkegg5608 This is great. You should feel great after reading that
@@owenkegg5608my knowledge on this topic exploded after this video
Drach Drinking Game.
Take a shot every time he says 'shot'.
Shot.
That hurts my liver.
I will start that game only after the shift from shot to shell :D
By the time you reach the half way mark, you're either completely drunk or you will have died from alcohol poisoning.
@@IO-hh2fz To be fair, I suppose it al depends on the shots you're taking 🤔
Don't you love it how tank designers eventually had to go through same solutions as battleship designers, but on the basis of experience from their own mistakes instead of taking a peek into naval branches. And usually a few decades later:\
6:00, thats the Shot Furnace in St.Augustine Florida at the fort!!! I work across the street !
It seems that the late age of sail would be a personal hell for a modern safety inspector.
I've watched nearly every Drac vid there is. So when I open new vids I 👍 it first before it even loads.
Why? Drac always delivers 100% and never disappoints. One of the greatest channels of our era!!
“...which might very well end up blowing the furnace, rather counterproductively, all over your own ship.”
Drach, you’re in fine form tonight!
Your explanations are well written and very informative in a highly understandable manner. You are a born teacher and public speaker, as well as an expert in so many topics that I am amazed. Bravo, bravo, and again, bravo!
As always, another excellent production. I especially love the way you introduced the subject of sectional density with your “tennis ball” demonstration. For big game hunters, sectional density of the projectile is an important factor in its effectiveness on the targeted game as some animals have the equivalent of natural armor, e.g. wild boars’ protective shoulder shields and elephants’ very thick skulls. Many people would be surprised at how even modern bullet construction and a well placed shot doesn’t always result in defeating nature’s protections for these animals.
Personal military firearms and their munitions are usually geared towards defeating humans or the body armor they wear of course. Usually with a doctrine behind them. The reason for the adoption of smaller, higher velocity rounds in some cases that have less lethality but can defeat body armor.
Animals and evolution makes far less specific plans. It's definitely interesting to consider how human devices develop for such specific scenarios when those devices involve competition with other humans.
I’m going to recommend that if one wants an in-depth continuing description of the cannon and shot used by crews of English wood ships of the line in the period 1790 to 1815 read the books by Patrick O’Brien - which are available in the libraries of the U.S.
What books does O'Brian write that cover muzzle loading artillery "in depth"? Because I have read most of his stuff and never saw anything like that. He writes historical fiction. He goes as far as to explain the difference between carronades and guns, he describes in the narrative how they operate them, and that it about it. I do not consider that "in depth", not even close. He never even explains what "honeycombing" is, or how during battle the crews can both time the guns to the roll of the ship _and_ fire at the same time as the others, and many other questions he never adequately explains. Because they are novels, not books about guns. For all the technical jargon he uses he never actually does much explaining of how it all works.
Absolutely recommend the books though, fantastic, some of my favorite. I actually bought the whole set after reading them 2-3 times from the library.
"I've got the mouth of my gun literally pressed against the side of your ship." I lol'd!
The flower like appearance for small arms round is mostly likely the result of the impact of jacketed hollow point on a steel plate. A full metal jacket or lead round nose bullet will look more like a disk.
Steel gun barrels destroyed by premature look similar, except of course wire wound ones.
My hometown is Bethlehem, where we built the American navy. Most American ships and guns from WWI and WWII come from steel made here. Sadly it closed before I was born.
The heavy forge is fully active and was spun off before the Bethlehem collapse. I worked in the plant which was an incredible place. If there was a call for new big guns and armor, Lehigh Valley Heavy Forge is fully capable of producing it.
How appropriate that the town that "built the American navy" would be named after the town where Jesus was born.
@@lawsonj39 Reputedly.
Bethlehem native here myself! Currently on main street rn
Hang on, just where exactly has that “tennis ball” been for the last century? 🤣 It looks.....petrified.
It wasn’t a tennis ball. It was a piece of iron shot. Drach just recorded the audio first and then found an iron ball for the demo, and added a caption to note this in the video.
@@bluemarlin8138 I was being facetious lol. Not sure any tennis ball could have deteriorated to such a state. 😉
@@jakerubino3233 Whoops!
@@bluemarlin8115 all good, might be my Australian twisted sense of humour! 👍🏻
I would like to point out that the red hot shot furnace that was shown with the crosses/Xs on it is at the Castillo de San Marco in St Augustine fl
Never gonna curb my enthusiasm for these videos. Thanks Drach.
Hérésie ! Talking about Tsushima without mentioning the Kamtchatka (it is not relevant here but it's precisely the point of the Kamtchatka : irrelevence).
Did anybody else see torpedo boats?
@@alanfhall6450 Which direction are they coming from? - "ALL DIRECTIONS"
I just finally caught up after the 4+ hours drydock of last week, this weeks dry dock and the Belfast video. Guess Drach wants me to listen to another 50 minutes. 😅
Best gift for me, just became a flight instructor. Can’t wait to see where this video goes
Congratulations
@@curtismcelhaney2512 thank you
Congrats I always wanted to get my flight license
Good for you sir!
Congratulations
Waddaya know - HE spam in WoWS is based on a real naval tactic.
I used to play the old SSI game Great Naval Battles: North Atlantic back in the 90s. It had a thick manual that was also a pretty good history book about WWII Atlantic theater. One of the tactics sections mentions that while cruiser fire won't penetrate battleship armor, it is useful for starting nuisance fires and fore taking out things like gun directors and other sensitive bits above deck. And that's exactly what I used them for. I particularly like 6" gun cruisers, which often had 12 guns each and a rapid rate of fire, so I could form them up, get in close, and pepper the enemy battleships with them, then when my battleships came into range I had the advantage since I was not busy fighting fires and my fire control systems were all still in good shape.
@@RCAvhstape Would you happen to remember which one of the series the game was? It sounds fun!
USS Atlanta: *Eat my fire*
@@tbg3889 It was called Great Naval Battles: North Atlantic. There was a follow-on to it that was about the Pacific war but it wasn't as good as North Atlantic.
@@RCAvhstape Ah, I see. Thanks, I'll make a point of checking it out!
Funny thing with projectile vs. armour hardness. At hyper velocity, 3km/s, both will behave as liquids so hardness is totaly irrelevant. It can even be a gas and it will still work. It is all about the impulse and the area.
*laughs in plasma cannon*
I Thought I had the armour piercing sussed out. But it turns out I really needed an expert to go through the physics in detail. Thank you.
It’s interesting in how most of the terms and effects also relate so well to tank shells which I’ve been reading about
Gee, it's almost like trying to shoot through metal is the same in ships and tanks. What a truly amazing coincidence.
Wow! Despite its abbreviated nature, that was a lot to take in. Talk about people working at maximum capacity. But all in all a worthwhile video. It will of course require another see-through, when my head regains its normal size. Thanks Drachinifel.
Another excellent documentary from a generous 'lecturer/military historian/engineer'. Nice video 👌 and your efforts add something substantive to our lives.
Perhaps we've misheard Admiral Beatty all this time: "There seems to be something wrong with our bloody shells today..."
Came across your channel accidentally, instant subscribe on this content. Naval politics are particularly funny to me (family background), so very much enjoyed the insight into some of the little dramas of the British Navy's arms race, which is a huge topic in itself. And then I see you've done an episode on the Mark 14 torpedo and I knew this was the right place!
I use your vids to fall asleep to sometimes, so whenever I hear your intro music I get nice and relaxed lol
I love you picturesque adjectives (hole poking device, shore bombardment landscaping etc.)
Sometimes i watch a video just to see what you will add. Thanks.
4:19
...unless Will Wheaton happened to involve himself...
Edit: timing
Another masterpiece by one of the great historians of our time. Thank you for your time and thoughts. Well done, sir!
15:18 I've rested my hand on that shell fragment many many times over the years. That's a fragment from a US 16" AP shell that was dug out of the French battleship Jean Bart and returned to us after the USS Massachusetts opened fire on her at Casablanca and struck her several times with the main battery. That fragment is displayed on the deck mounted onto turret #3. :) I have 35mm film pictures of me as a toddler touching it, and I have pictures all the way up to me as an 18 year old standing next to it which was when I last visited and touched it. I love Big Mamie. I really miss going to see this fragment as well as the twisted piece of deck armor that was damaged by the shore battery hit to an empty barracks. I miss saying hi to George the Gremlin on the forward turret, and tracking the cars on Braga Bridge with one of the 40mm Bofors mounts or a 20mm Oerlikon pretending they were Japanese planes. Museum ships are absolutely incredible. Battleship Cove was what got me to fall in love with military history, naval ships, and WW2. It was always incredible stepping aboard the Massachusetts and thinking "This exact ship beneath my feet fired the first and last US 16" shell of WW2 and never lost a man the entire time."
Thanks for the video. Now everyone in my shop knows a bit more about naval shells.
Drach "good enough for government work". My father defined 'government work" as that which you 1) measure with a micrometer, 2) mark with chalk, 3) cut with an axe.
Thats bloody gold mate
4) Discuss every step on multiple repeating meetings involving the maximum available number of random employees.
@@vkhvala 5) Over document with redundant paperwork
Eloquent, informative, and amusing. Draco is the gold standard.
WOW!
Great detailed history in this video!
Thank you for posting!
Would love to see a video on propellants & explosives, from black/brown powder to triple base
Thanks for a well researched video, very interesting stuff.
This clears up some questions I had about the performance of British shells at Jutland, Thanks!
I love your videos, they are so in depth & informative, i enjoy the fun of both watching and playing in the background.
I absolutely love your videos on naval technology! The video on naval armour development was amazing as well. Do more just like this!
I Really enjoyed this as it also brings a lot of background to the Landship Ordinances as they're similar if not the same
Well done. I've been curious about the history of Naval Ammunition for a long time and this has filled some holes in my knowledge base.
Excellent video, really informative. Definitely one of my favorite videos of yours.
I don’t know why but I keep coming back to this video every few months.
It just tickles the good bits of my brain.
What would be interesting is a study on the shells used by the Japanese fleet during the battle of Leyte, when they used AP shells against the smaller carriers and ships of the invasion fleet. -Gunny T sends
Pft, the obvious solution to iron armor is ramming. Ramming is the way of the future I tell you what.
*Stares at Shinyo*
You might have a point there...
*Imperium Navy intensifies*
I tell you old boy. We should design entire ships around ramming. Putting a ram on an ironclad isn’t enough. We should commission an entire line of rams. Yes, if naval guns rapidly advance, then these ships will become redundant before their even built. but really, what’s the chance of that happening?
@@menschman1464 At least we'll be ready to face the Martians!
@@orenashkenazi9813 we must ensure that that the Fwench the Huns and the wussians don’t get any big ideas. Convert all our ships into rams! Convert our merchant ships into rams! convert queen Victoria into a ram! convert the isles into rams! We must be prepared to be ahead of the curve on the ram trend we mustn’t let there be a ram gap. We must establish ram supremacy. We must... wait.. what rear admiral? Armor piercing shells? Oh...
Very interesting, I'm looking forward to more of these videos.
I must say this is an extremely well-done video and deserves recognition for the time put into it.
Thank You, keep up the great content!
Some age of sail mad lad thought just shooting regular cannon ball at the enemy ship was too basic.
...few hundred years later...
Naval officer in the early 1900's: hear me out lads, we put TNT in our shells.
Yeah that sounds about right, logical progression.
Last time I was this early, the Suez Canal was still Anglo-French.
Thank for a very interesting and illuminating presentation of the naval gun shell development. 😃 Great work.
I've watched many vids of yours now and I am consistently amazed on the amount of information you provide along with the quality and humour you put into the narration. top notch sir.
I am in school, undercover, if I am comprised; let Admiral Drachinifel know!
No seriously I’m listening during boring science
explosive science is exciting science! :D
Update: mission was success: was not comprised
Admiral Drach!
Would drach be drach if he wussed out of science classes?
Haven't been this early since Kamchatka went missing.
Do you see torpedo boats?
And the 2nd Russian Fleet was still doing live firing practice
Great stuff always mate!!! You’re material and delivery produces an addicting calming experience while filling my head with fascinating facts of history. Keep up the great job and thank you very much for all your hard work and passion for learning!! May God bless all the works of your hands.
Excellent. I had four questions that were answered before the end of the video. More importantly, zero questions remained unanswered.
Wish you had gone into greater detail on the US AP 16 in shells and what would have made them so hellacious.
I love how he makes a horribly boring topic interesting.
I was gonna say the exact opposite
I strongly disagree. In my humble opinion he makes a fascinating but complicated topic easy to understand in a entertaining way.
I wish my teachers had been so skilled and entertaining with their fields of education.
Can’t help but wonder what topics you find interesting if artillery shells are horribly boring.
I'd say that he does a pretty good job at condensing a couple centuries of information into an hour.
If you don't find this interesting, I'm curious how you found this channel.
I think you all missed the pun. "Horribly boring topic" what do these shells do but bore into armor? Ba dum tiss.
Fascinating topic, thanks! Very explosive presentation as well, great education!
Outstanding video on artillery shells in the development well done sir thank you
Never been this early... that's ok I didn't need sleep this morning... so... do you see torpedo boats?
About a four dozens of them, sailing towards Ancona. :)
Other than those Japanese ones over there?
--Kamchatka
They're traveling 300 knots!
No, those are neutral fishing trawlers disguised to look like torpedo boats so that we won't attack them.
@@coryclemett5569 nay, nay, they are teleporting I say!
Since wood pretty much always floats, actually causing a wooden ship to sink was more difficult than it became in the age of iron ships.
As big as the density difference between hardwood and steel, I think a wooden ship under sail with full magazines and full cargo holds might sink just as fast as a steel hulled ship. That’s why all those marine archeologists have so many wrecks to investigate.
@@alfredsutton7233 I think you are correct for merchant ships, but once cannon became common, shooting the ships to pieces had parts that floated long after the battle; at least according to Avalon Hill's Designer Notes in Wooden Ships and Iron Men from 1976.
Looking for something to fall asleep to and your voice + interesting material + video length makes this perfect ♥️ thanks mate
Very good film, thank you!
Sixty-nine Halifax residents dislike this discussion of ships and explosives.
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"Their precious!"
I have watched this episode a number of times, as much for the humor as for the knowledge. Congrats on a most hilarious style of presentation! I have learned a great deal while laughing aloud.