Vocal Coach Reaction to The Truth About "Unique" Voices

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • Vocal coach Tristan Paredes reacts to mrskinnyjeanz3 video titled The Truth About Unique Voices where he criticizes singers like Zhavia, Hasley, & Lorde for their "indie girl" singing.
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  • @ameliamorice300
    @ameliamorice300 6 лет назад +5002

    i had an american singing teacher that kept telling me to sing 'naturally' and to 'stop changing my vowels'. it was ridiculously hard to explain that he is in australia and i am australian with an australian accent.

    • @kelsiehibberd8998
      @kelsiehibberd8998 5 лет назад +307

      The fact that an American singing teacher noticed you "changing" your vowels is a good sign if you're Australian! Most of us Aussies try singing in a "neutral" accent which often sounds American, embrace the Kasey Chambers and Missy Higgins Aussie singing accent.. hahah. I swear most Americans love hearing Aus accents.. I remember hearing something on the radio when Dean Lewis released "Be Alright" and some radio host was froathing over how he said "mate" ahaha

    • @begumnazcakir
      @begumnazcakir 5 лет назад +21

      ahshahhaahahahahshahhaahah that cracked me up

    • @taylorbritt499
      @taylorbritt499 5 лет назад +22

      @@kelsiehibberd8998 I'm only replying to you to say that "Be Alright" is SUCH A GOOD SONG.
      If you enjoy that song I'd recommend the song "Polygraph Eyes" by the artist YUNGBLUD
      They kind of remind me of each other. Plus Polygraph Eyes is just a darn good song :)

    • @vic_cresss
      @vic_cresss 5 лет назад +9

      Should’ve sung Sticky Fingers 😂

    • @naritruwireve1381
      @naritruwireve1381 5 лет назад +20

      The "sing naturally" thing I get cause you don't wanna be singing as if you're voice acting spongebob squarepants, but to stop changing your vowels, I dont... vowels are so important for so many different reasons... crazy

  • @bridieeleanor
    @bridieeleanor 6 лет назад +4271

    walcom to mai *kisschen* .... we haev *bonanis* ... and *avocadies*

  • @johananas8407
    @johananas8407 5 лет назад +1013

    This might be just me, but when you hear someone sing without seeing them, like on radio for example, and you know who that voice belongs to, that to me is a unique voice. The technique might not be unique, but the voice is.

    • @samsong24
      @samsong24 5 лет назад +19

      Agreed.

    • @هيلة-ع8م
      @هيلة-ع8م 5 лет назад +48

      The technique literally makes them all sound the same

    • @angellmariaaxoxo24
      @angellmariaaxoxo24 5 лет назад +25

      They all sound the same to me .......

    • @wickeli
      @wickeli 4 года назад +11

      angell Mariaaxoxo tune deaf?

    • @angellmariaaxoxo24
      @angellmariaaxoxo24 4 года назад +3

      @@wickeli no , they all sound the same .

  • @ra94ch
    @ra94ch 6 лет назад +3835

    Taylor Swift is a fantastic example of how an accent changes per the genre they're singing. Her country albums she had a "country" accent, when she started singing more poppy songs, suddenly the accent is gone.

    • @neverenders1111
      @neverenders1111 6 лет назад +140

      Rachael Wagstaff yeah and even depending on the style of her pop songs the accent changes within that. example: i love that song "wonderland" that she made but parts of it sound... British?

    • @PetroleumJellay
      @PetroleumJellay 6 лет назад +112

      I'll give her a pass because it doesn't seem like she's doing anything dramatic to change her voice. Just small changes to fit the style and she still keeps the same tone more or less. The people in this video are doing the most to change how their voice naturally flows and it's not just the pronunciation and such. like Jessie Reyez is trying super hard to keep up that baby tone.

    • @Gaborillaa
      @Gaborillaa 6 лет назад +15

      Jess Reyes literally talks like that too, like I don’t care for her music but she speaks in that accent and her voice is kind of raspy

    • @milaroberts2961
      @milaroberts2961 6 лет назад +31

      it wasn't just in her singing. i think that spending all that time in nashville and working with a lot of people in the country music scene kind of rubbed off on her. she wasn't only doing it for singing, she had one when speaking as well. so i don't think it necessarily came and went with the singing, but more likely just because of her scene change in general

    • @Ali-ib4zd
      @Ali-ib4zd 6 лет назад +25

      As a southerner.... that girl has never had an accent 😂

  • @BiatchesKilo0rin
    @BiatchesKilo0rin 6 лет назад +9635

    ,,,that voice has a name.....it's the banani and avocadi voice u should know that as a professional

    • @demingls4570
      @demingls4570 6 лет назад +516

      Blut Zucker welcome to my kitchen

    • @lidia3450
      @lidia3450 6 лет назад +241

      Demingls Banana Avocado voices 😍😍😍

    • @seamsungg
      @seamsungg 6 лет назад +66

      someone wanna inform me of the viners name so i can watch all his vines again

    • @honeypipe
      @honeypipe 6 лет назад +18

      Sharnelle chrish

    • @millygoose3131
      @millygoose3131 6 лет назад +20

      Sharnelle didn’t he do the ninki minjaj vine too?

  • @WafffleWolf
    @WafffleWolf 5 лет назад +327

    I dont mind the trend bc in the 50s we had the bugle boys 1950s type of singing, now we have the whiny indy sound it is just a product of the times....singing evolves were almost in the 20s now it will continue to evolve...

    • @jackorion7157
      @jackorion7157 5 лет назад +11

      ikr, sometimes the Beatles, Kinks and David Bowie sound very similar, 60's trend

    • @johnindigo5477
      @johnindigo5477 5 лет назад +10

      Or the 2000s pop punk/emo accent

    • @LinChaiVleymore
      @LinChaiVleymore 5 лет назад +5

      @@johnindigo5477 My favorite of which, at the end of any song:
      "....tuhnaight."
      Absolutely destroys me. XD

    • @nickgreatpwrful5754
      @nickgreatpwrful5754 4 года назад +7

      I wouldn't call that evolution. Just a normal cycle of trends and fads.

    • @nickgreatpwrful5754
      @nickgreatpwrful5754 4 года назад

      @@jackorion7157 they're literally all english... That's why they "sound similar" lmaooooo

  • @rodneymills6477
    @rodneymills6477 6 лет назад +1316

    "High white girl voice." I died, Tristan. I'm dead.

  • @jdwcreates4002
    @jdwcreates4002 6 лет назад +997

    9:03 From Brendon Urie to Justin Bieber?? Like, truly, how talented.

    • @alyssam1875
      @alyssam1875 6 лет назад +51

      IKR?!?!? I was taken aback for a minute

    • @TheKoyn
      @TheKoyn 5 лет назад +35

      BRUH! I thought he was singing a panic at the disco song or a Brandon Urie cover for a split second. How he do dat dere

    • @roywallace3832
      @roywallace3832 5 лет назад +13

      Everyone can do it or learn to. That's kind of the point he was making.

    • @charmainen7824
      @charmainen7824 5 лет назад +6

      He is so talented

    • @tomtomsdad
      @tomtomsdad 5 лет назад +21

      I did not hear this until you pointed it out... but yeah he definitely sounds like both of them here.

  • @AreYOUaSpider
    @AreYOUaSpider 6 лет назад +2188

    “Yeah mon, I’m rrrraggae mon.” 😂

  • @a5tr4l
    @a5tr4l 6 лет назад +2571

    I always worry that if I don’t sing with some kind of accent, I’ll sound like Owl City

    • @imissuguys
      @imissuguys 6 лет назад +236

      this comment made my week

    • @leedad3161
      @leedad3161 6 лет назад +262

      YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE YOUR EYES IF TEN MILLION FIRE FLIES

    • @leedad3161
      @leedad3161 6 лет назад +158

      LIT UP THE WORLD AS I FELL ASLEEP

    • @wonder_9315
      @wonder_9315 6 лет назад +27

      Brian Corona YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE YOUR EYES

    • @heneedsomemilk3311
      @heneedsomemilk3311 6 лет назад +45

      this is the most accurate thing i’ve ever read

  • @stacysaurusrex
    @stacysaurusrex 6 лет назад +2448

    I don't really like the baby girl/indie trend bc I don't like the style, but your logic greatly undermines this "truth about unique voices" vid, especially as a real vocal coach.

    • @mara8809
      @mara8809 6 лет назад +42

      I strongly disagree. The style of singing isn’t something you can crutch on, or make up, ergo Fergis National Anthem. The huskiness and selection of vowel sounds, inflection, and tone are tools to execute a specific sound the singer would like to have. If you heard, for example, lorde and the girl with the bright tone and couldn’t tell them apart, considering the vast differences in their voices (because techniques don’t really mask individual voices) or even just their approaches, that has nothing to do with what they’re doing. Was this overview simplified, yes, but, it’s hard to be lengthy without being disrespectful in regards to the negative, and incorrect generalization including tones, several styles, a variety of natural and artificial accents and executions. Even if you don’t like this one particular style of singing, watching the video, you had to have noticed some were just more soul-y, a few (to my knowledge) were even just not from the us. The video creator used any indicator of “not a basic, accent neutral, style free voice” as a classifier for “not trained” which is more or less shaming artists for taking their creative freedoms with an unlimited amount of options and making what they like to produce. You can personally not like a style without clumping that style with everything else, and disrespect it.

    • @bxatch
      @bxatch 6 лет назад +57

      I don't think you understood what Stacy was saying. They were saying that despite not liking the style, Tristan clearly explained how singers who use that style aren't all the same.

    • @bxatch
      @bxatch 6 лет назад +5

      Doc Halling Isaiah I was replying to Mara Downer

    • @WhatAlex
      @WhatAlex 6 лет назад +10

      Stacy i agree... the only person I think it’s working for is Billie Eilish

    • @iTeacupPanda
      @iTeacupPanda 6 лет назад +20

      I mean, the baby girl trend is annoying. Blame Melanie Martinez for that.
      But, Indie in general has a lot of different vocal types that aren't all like that.
      Florence Welch alone could belt most people off a stage.

  • @Aleksandraaaaaaaaaaaa
    @Aleksandraaaaaaaaaaaa 5 лет назад +245

    actually for jessie j she has a english accent so that’s why some of the words sounds like that

    • @tanihehe
      @tanihehe 5 лет назад +49

      Yup. Plus her voice has MEGA control over her vibrato and THAT'S her style. That thicc and prominent vibrato along with the HONESTLY GODLY runs are what jessie j is!! The accent just makes it better to me. XD love her and her styleee ❤

    • @Thesarcasticdom
      @Thesarcasticdom 4 года назад +6

      Yeah, it was a poor example.

    • @ew3606
      @ew3606 4 года назад +5

      She's not singing in her English accent though

    • @fromchomleystreet
      @fromchomleystreet 4 года назад +11

      People ALWAYS say this whenever this discussion touches on a non-American singer, and it’s always wrong. The qualities of her singing voice to which he was referring are explicitly movements AWAY from her native southern English vowel shapes, and TOWARDS American ones. The prevalent style of contemporary singing for most of the last century has been an American style, which is why almost every singer, regardless of where they come from, Americanises their vowels when singing. If Jessie was overtly singing in her own accent, it would sound completely different to this .

    • @gabrielecome4077
      @gabrielecome4077 3 года назад

      t-t-that

  • @Kaalyn_HOW
    @Kaalyn_HOW 6 лет назад +4467

    A lot of this video also was criticizing ACTUAL accents. ...like speaking accents. Artists from the UK sound totally different from the US, and you can sometimes legitimately not understand them -- even those who are not going for an 'indie' sound. In their speaking voice, their vowels are different than ours. When the UK, Aussie and NZ scene took off, this sound became more popular here in the US, too, bc it's a cool inflection. It's just the natural progression of music. Things trend. And, even within this trend, I'd say just about all the examples in this video didn't actually sound that much alike. They weren't even in the same genre.
    But pop music? No one is saying that they have poor skills or are "making up for no talent" bc they all sound the same. And, if understanding them is a necessity in order to be a "good singer", then Ariana's in trouble. ..only, she's not. Neither is Adele or Sia. Three diff genres, all that have something about their voice that makes them hard to understand depending on where your from. But them criticizing black, native, straight UK/AUS, or black+british voices as an 'indie sound'? What???

    • @tristanparedes
      @tristanparedes  6 лет назад +286

      YES!

    • @drewm.2790
      @drewm.2790 6 лет назад +20

      Kaalyn - OPG Very well said

    • @DJG333
      @DJG333 6 лет назад +100

      No one in that video was using their native accent as their singing accent...

    • @witchassbitch3
      @witchassbitch3 6 лет назад +54

      Stfu lorde, zhavia actually has a bit of that tone in her voice, khalid, sometimes you hear it in Halsey's speaking voice too.

    • @witchassbitch3
      @witchassbitch3 6 лет назад +7

      Kaalyn - OPG thank you for saying this and wording it so much better than I could

  • @madcasual1111
    @madcasual1111 6 лет назад +2712

    This person really said SZA and Khalid's accents are the same. Bish what.

    • @sav.2876
      @sav.2876 5 лет назад +10

      Girl ik

    • @jacobdv91
      @jacobdv91 5 лет назад +35

      I thought they were just pointing out the fact he was singing her song

    • @mariellabeatrice5746
      @mariellabeatrice5746 5 лет назад +5

      I would like this comment but it says 777

    • @Moejave1TTV
      @Moejave1TTV 5 лет назад +42

      ok i like them both but i cannot deny the similarities

    • @imtired4610
      @imtired4610 5 лет назад +3

      What I feel like their accent is similar at all

  • @misterwinkybluff
    @misterwinkybluff 5 лет назад +1148

    I’m really surprised no one mentioned one of the biggest culprits of this…
    *Melanie Martinez.*

    • @memereview9803
      @memereview9803 5 лет назад +12

      Mister Winkybluff
      SAME

    • @echilcote4235
      @echilcote4235 5 лет назад +93

      I love Melanie, but you're right. Lana Del Rey does it a lot too.

    • @Jen-ti1xo
      @Jen-ti1xo 5 лет назад +76

      But at least she can sing. Her good songs and vocals (in my opinion) distract me from the indie thing.

    • @Jen-ti1xo
      @Jen-ti1xo 5 лет назад +17

      Emily F Billie isn’t that extreme, also her good voice makes up for it.

    • @Jen-ti1xo
      @Jen-ti1xo 5 лет назад +5

      Emily F Thats true, I think shes capable of more than what she puts out, but at the same time i still like hearing her voice cause its so beautiful, to me at least, so for me it just balances out the indie thing she does. But at least she isn't so extreme with it, cause then I wouldnt be able to listen.😂

  • @sarahwithstars
    @sarahwithstars 6 лет назад +1654

    Hehe Actually a voice coach, not just a vocal coach.
    Really loving your channel and the ongoing conversation about technique, creative choice, identity and position and placement of the voice.
    zhavia is more of a throat singer with some modified vowels and vocal placement towards the back of here mouth rather than a singer doing the 'indie' accent using bad diction to sound distinctive.

  • @schawlie3893
    @schawlie3893 6 лет назад +207

    I think you are becoming my favorite youtuber just because of how positive and open minded you are.

    • @cheesecakelasagna
      @cheesecakelasagna 6 лет назад

      Schawlie same! i just subbed and have already watched >10 videos of his.

  • @lucydorn2901
    @lucydorn2901 6 лет назад +230

    I am a die hard Khalid fan and I may just be crazy but that video of him singing was so beautiful it made me cry ugh

    • @nupurfaye
      @nupurfaye 4 года назад +9

      I am also obsessed with Khalid. He don't pretend, he got a natural voice

    • @carter3774
      @carter3774 4 года назад +5

      Not obsessed though I like his music, but I don't think he's putting on that much of an accent as the video tries to say, I think it's just kinda his voice

  • @Sadsignet
    @Sadsignet 6 лет назад +521

    As a sound engineer in training the most difficult thing I've come across so far is how vocalists use microphones. Lots of airy vocalists can't be heard down a microphone due to their technique. I've had many singers with softer airy voices be too shy to be up close to the microphone so it can be picked up then constantly complain about not being able to hear themselves. It's impossible to turn them up without high risk of feedback and noise. So while I agree that airy voices can be picked up by microphones I disagree that it's a technicians fault and that's because the issue isn't projection, it's proximity to the pick up of the microphone. Not hating, just sharing my experience as a sound tech that deals with these issues from the other end :)

    • @stanconnorstan4266
      @stanconnorstan4266 6 лет назад +33

      I agree, as a regularly performing singer, I have been told repeatedly to literally put mouth pretty much directly against the mic at times for singing specific notes, especially during airier, high notes. I.e. falsetto (I'm a tenor).

    • @MrProdigy65
      @MrProdigy65 6 лет назад +84

      In other words, the microphone is not a snake don't be afraid of have it close, also its not a dick, dont shove it down your throat

    • @cheesecakelasagna
      @cheesecakelasagna 6 лет назад +1

      MrProdigy love the analogy lol

    • @cresdc8481
      @cresdc8481 6 лет назад +2

      +MrProdigy the analogu lmao

    • @iTsKimmyBlanco
      @iTsKimmyBlanco 6 лет назад +5

      Tbh there’s a lot of things this guy has said that I don’t agree with

  • @sushi8451
    @sushi8451 6 лет назад +793

    I hate indie girl singing but completely agree with this video. Well said!

    • @DamnFineCupOfCoffee
      @DamnFineCupOfCoffee 6 лет назад +25

      I hate how it's called indie girl singing too. No actual indie artists sing like that. Only this new brand of pop, whatever the hell it's called.
      I hate how it sounds too. Guys do it too.

    • @し-か
      @し-か 5 лет назад +5

      @@DamnFineCupOfCoffee ITS BANANIS AND AVOCADIS

  • @jhun8838
    @jhun8838 6 лет назад +1212

    React to Lana Del Rey best live vocals.

  • @aotradimension
    @aotradimension 6 лет назад +358

    I loved this, you are so respectful and nice, also it is so entretaining I could've sworn the video was 5 minutes long

  • @kristenr7816
    @kristenr7816 6 лет назад +388

    Your voice is very easy to listen to. You could probably rant about nothing for two hours and I'd listen to it lol.
    I like how you can disagree with something and present your reasonings in a respectful way.

    • @cathymadsen2930
      @cathymadsen2930 6 лет назад +12

      Kristen R this is why his channel has boomed. Nice and polite, funny, cheeky, and intelligent.

  • @Midnighterz.
    @Midnighterz. 5 лет назад +182

    If the video being reviewed was about art, it would be like: *"as you can see from the ragged strokes and paint drips, it tries to be abstract which is unnatural in depicting people. And thus is inferior to realism."*

    • @adolescentbird
      @adolescentbird 4 года назад +4

      Omg I love this comment

    • @carter3774
      @carter3774 4 года назад +6

      Honestly best metaphor for this kinda stuff

    • @ashamarinella
      @ashamarinella 4 года назад +2

      I love this comment so much ahahahha. PERFECT

    • @liketheTaj
      @liketheTaj 3 года назад +5

      Not really, this type of vocal technique/style is actually not ideal for your voice & your vocal cords, and might be unhealthy long-term. It’s not necessarily inferior to more classical vocal styles but it is objectively worse for your voice. To use your analogy, I’d say this is more like if the art was painted using an unhealthy posture of the wrist that puts strain on the wrist and puts you at more risk of injuring your wrist, rather than just a different style of painting.

    • @selahlodestar
      @selahlodestar 3 года назад

      PREACH

  • @a.m.3708
    @a.m.3708 6 лет назад +142

    something about tristan just keeps me watching. literally been on this channel for hours. keep it up man!!

  • @Gabi-qy5gz
    @Gabi-qy5gz 6 лет назад +125

    "Don't even get me started with that Country shit"😂😂😂dead😂😂😂

  • @skyhe5516
    @skyhe5516 5 лет назад +177

    Singing is not meant for you to sound the same as talking voice 😂😂

  • @jazz3799
    @jazz3799 6 лет назад +34

    I love how informative and non confrontational your videos are. It seems like so many people can't disagree without getting really defensive, and we've lost so much of the art of debate because of it. People are so easily led to believe something is true if it's presented in a way that appears logical, so it's nice to see your counter arguments shed light on things people get sucked into believing is a fact

  • @tonatiuhornelas1472
    @tonatiuhornelas1472 6 лет назад +91

    Love what you're doing, my guy! We need to break these confines of vocal training that only focus on a more classical style of singing and move on to a training that can actually account for different styles. You just might be on to a vocal training revolution, man.

  • @ferretly
    @ferretly 5 лет назад +615

    I feel like the person who made that first video has never heard R&B and just assumes all black singers "put on an accent."

    • @Brynwyn123
      @Brynwyn123 5 лет назад +48

      Yeah like... So I don't know who the black guy who was singing next to the guitar is cause I'm not American and mostly listen to dark cabaret but he just sounded like he was a guy with the accent of where he grew up. I'm wondering if they're upset because he has the typical accent from the *black community* in that area specifically.

    • @squakerboy4499
      @squakerboy4499 5 лет назад

      Haha

    • @echilcote4235
      @echilcote4235 5 лет назад +6

      It makes me mad because people think she's actually a really good singer and that she's "oRiGiNaL".

    • @Jen-ti1xo
      @Jen-ti1xo 5 лет назад +6

      It wasn’t just black’s in the video though, sooo...

    • @HyenaFox
      @HyenaFox 5 лет назад +34

      Exactly. They continually cite SZA as an example. I can hear every word she says clearly. The only reason someone wouldn't understand her is because she often incorporates rap into her music (listen to Love Galore) despite being mostly an R&B/Neo-soul artist.
      The passages they played are incredibly easy to understand, look, I'll do it for each one.
      First one (Love Galore): "...Skirt down on me, acting like we, wasn't more than, a summer fling..."
      Second SZA passage (Drew Barrymore) "...I'm sorry I'm not your baby mama, I'm sorry you got karma coming to you, collect and soak it up right..."

  • @ripkylie
    @ripkylie 6 лет назад +472

    I’m sorry but yodeling boy just dropped a new single and I need a reaction ( Mason Ramsey “Famous” )

  • @tavern2468
    @tavern2468 6 лет назад +402

    Oh it's called indie girl voice I thought it was called bananies and avocadeeess

  • @cristalsnow6287
    @cristalsnow6287 6 лет назад +124

    "Dont even get me started with that country shit" -Tristan ❤

  • @tara9635
    @tara9635 6 лет назад +1556

    Khalid has an amazing r&b voice he doesn’t do the indie girl trying at all

    • @taykhamilton
      @taykhamilton 6 лет назад +100

      Tara Sheridan right, because he does the indie boy trying.

    • @cushe83
      @cushe83 6 лет назад +39

      Yes he does

    • @jockmaraisasmr5700
      @jockmaraisasmr5700 6 лет назад +68

      Tara Sheridan yes he does. That’s not an “accent”. It’s completely nonexistent when he talks. It’s only there when he sings and it’s intentional.

    • @loveunconventionally6043
      @loveunconventionally6043 6 лет назад +34

      Have you actually listened to 80's and 90's r&b??? Khalid sounds nothing like it lol

    • @runtzzreacts
      @runtzzreacts 6 лет назад +5

      Tara Sheridan fr khalid is literally my favorite singer

  • @swee435
    @swee435 6 лет назад +231

    That’s like saying Stevie Nicks isn’t unique because she’s putting on an accent bsbsbnd literally every singer puts on an accent to fit well with their voice to see which sounds good or not. And sometimes the indie voice just fits better. Like Halsey is used a lot in these videos and I always get so mad at this cause yeah she has a very indie voice but that singing voice she does makes her voice sound really good. And some artists who use it don’t sound good. It depends. (Also that’s just how she sings Idk why people always make it seem like she’s “faking her singing voice” I’ve heard her live for years and it’s never forced and her singing comes so natural to her. Like people gotta research before making these videos lol)

  • @creuller7166
    @creuller7166 6 лет назад +880

    Wait, I can understand every word SZA says. Her enunciation isn't the problem.

  • @troywilson1654
    @troywilson1654 6 лет назад +55

    your videos make me feel more comfortable about singing because a lot of times i have been told that i cannot sing just because i cant hit high notes. i have a low, smooth tone and i use that to the best of my advantage but a lot of people find it annoying and only supports high vocals. so thank u for pointing out everything that u have here

  • @krisha9413
    @krisha9413 5 лет назад +173

    I dont get why people dont like SZA I love her voice shes my queen🤷🏽‍♀️💞my opinion

    • @ww3bby.392
      @ww3bby.392 4 года назад +21

      I'm still listening to CTRL😭💕

    • @jaydamay6815
      @jaydamay6815 3 года назад +6

      EXACTLY people like her now tho all of a sudden 😒

    • @suoutubez19
      @suoutubez19 3 года назад +1

      @@jaydamay6815 everyone has their own taste in music ♥️

  • @LaynieFingers
    @LaynieFingers 6 лет назад +318

    I'd go a step further and say that it seems like different eras of music have their own general sounds... And this "indie girl" sound seems to be this era's sound.

    • @suk4honesty
      @suk4honesty 6 лет назад +19

      Laynie Fingers yeah remember the weird 1920's singing voice!

    • @Vampiress16
      @Vampiress16 6 лет назад +18

      talk about the 1950’s...definitely had an accent there.

    • @drewm.2790
      @drewm.2790 6 лет назад +11

      Laynie Fingers true, the 80s also had its unique mainly pop Madonna and disco style while the 90s is dominated by power ballad and hip-hop sounds.

    • @LaynieFingers
      @LaynieFingers 6 лет назад +11

      Andrew Maliberan Oh, I'm referring to the way artists use their voices in general, and it spans genres. It's one reason I can differentiate between eras fairly well... The was people sang in the 50s is audibly different from the 60s, which is different from the 70s and so on. Personally, I think that might be why a lot of "vocal coaches" may dislike the indie girl sound... Because it's very different, and as you get older, different can easily equal bad. All my opinion, though, so take it for what it's worth.

    • @halos.1
      @halos.1 6 лет назад

      Exactly.

  • @winstonchaychel
    @winstonchaychel 6 лет назад +315

    I ROFL so hard at the banaknees and avacadees 😂🤣🤦

    • @ChronicallyCurious
      @ChronicallyCurious 6 лет назад +4

      MrsG87 Right? I'd never seen that. That just added something to this. 😅 It'll always come to mind when I see baynannies now. 😂

    • @winstonchaychel
      @winstonchaychel 6 лет назад +4

      Chronically Curious I laughed way too hard at it, like snort laughed probably LOL.

    • @SavviiTuesday
      @SavviiTuesday 6 лет назад +1

      It made me uncomfortable for some reason.. 😭 I got issues

    • @tretre3892
      @tretre3892 6 лет назад

      🤣🤣🤣 I laughed way too hard at that too

  • @meganpace3554
    @meganpace3554 6 лет назад +10

    To me, music is mainly about having fun and finding a style you like to sing/play in. When I play bass guitar, I love messing around with the different styles and sounds

  • @red_ashcroft
    @red_ashcroft 6 лет назад +224

    What I find unique voices are singers you can easily tell it's them. There are a lot of singers nowadays who sing almost exactly alike. And that indie voice is so used by so many people nowadays. It's not voice just style.

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 5 лет назад +10

      It's a style that sells which is why it's done over and over. There is very little originality in pop music because all the labels want to mine from the same vein.

    • @Brynwyn123
      @Brynwyn123 5 лет назад

      I agree but at the same time... Why does it matter? Sure, Elliott Smith is more instantly recognisable than some smaller indie singers because his voice is like spiders but it doesn't make him objectively better. I like him more but that means nothing.

    • @Zeli2tear
      @Zeli2tear 5 лет назад

      EXACTLY its an easy style to replicate

    • @TheOfficialBrownHeadedGoof
      @TheOfficialBrownHeadedGoof 2 года назад

      @@Zeli2tear SPIDERS?!

  • @ryans.9502
    @ryans.9502 6 лет назад +2044

    Can you please react to Mariah Careys best vocals? Mainly in the 90's

    • @emiryeksan419
      @emiryeksan419 6 лет назад +3

      lilsheep yesss

    • @instasingingvids3529
      @instasingingvids3529 6 лет назад +2

      lilsheep yes please!!

    • @NostalgicNathan
      @NostalgicNathan 6 лет назад +23

      Yesss and her Grammy performance of “If It’s Over” vocal slayage!!!

    • @ryans.9502
      @ryans.9502 6 лет назад +7

      NostalgicNathan yesss! And her without you performance in Tokyo 1996

    • @BreBrebunny14
      @BreBrebunny14 6 лет назад +2

      lilsheep omg yessss. Even do an album💓

  • @TheGrmany69
    @TheGrmany69 5 лет назад +18

    That "style" is produced by glottal closure, I am very inclined to think so, that's also the feature that gives flamenco it's "quality"; it also reminds me to Shakira in her beginnings.

  • @kaijacelestin8999
    @kaijacelestin8999 6 лет назад +305

    Yea... that video isn't just illogical, but is pretty offensive when you actually have a speaking voice like that. In particular, SZA and Khalid. Not that they speak exactly like that, but the way they sing is a natural extension of how they stress sounds in everyday speech. Of course it's more noticeable when ur belting out music, but it seems whoever created this video is just someone who interprets a typical American accent as the 'norm'.

    • @manicpixiecassidy
      @manicpixiecassidy 6 лет назад +26

      ??? ??? Lorde as well. She's a New Zealander, and she's just using her accent. (I am from New Zealand. I know the accent.)

    • @JayySonataWTF
      @JayySonataWTF 6 лет назад +4

      ??? ??? Yeah but if you listen to old SZA sings, she's never sung like that lol

    • @puthica2060
      @puthica2060 6 лет назад +6

      Jayy Sonata or maybe before she was as comfortable with her accent and voice she used a generic American accent because thats most likely how she learned and heard others singing. Singing voices are constantly evolving as gain more expertise

    • @JayySonataWTF
      @JayySonataWTF 6 лет назад

      Pussandra Jones but her vocal technique is actually worse. And if you see her live, you notice sometimes the accent isn't even there. It's very forced.

    • @sallyanderson8355
      @sallyanderson8355 6 лет назад +3

      Jayy Sonata agree to disagree but as someone who has heard sza live and it seemed like the scent was natural to them. Especially English is her first language she learned to stress different vowels but I’d love to hear your opinion. In the times I’ve seen her interviews even if he sound isn’t natural it’s still prevalent in her speaking voice

  • @naliroka7998
    @naliroka7998 6 лет назад +43

    I have to say, I just discovered you and watched few of your videos, but you got me fired up from the first minutes. I used to hate hearing people sing live and my own singing voice. Thanks to you I became more appreaciative and I am willing to experiment with singing, just for the funsies. You are awesome. Thank you very much! You seem like such a chill dude to hang out with. :D Love your positivity.

  • @zitatoth9458
    @zitatoth9458 5 лет назад +75

    I have a unique voice
    Uniquely annoying
    Of course I hear myself worse than I actually am, but still

  • @NostalgicNathan
    @NostalgicNathan 6 лет назад +414

    Yes! You gave a clear cut demonstration of how we all have accents when we sing. It’s all about vowel modifications. I love your videos Tristan! Keep it up. 👏
    I would love it if you did a video reacting to Demi Lovato’s best live vocals or even Tori Kelly’s PYT riff. It would make me so happy since those are two of my favorite singers. Anyways, keep up the good work boy! You’re slaying! 😍

    • @Key_1111
      @Key_1111 6 лет назад

      NostalgicNathan He did

    • @bechastime666
      @bechastime666 6 лет назад

      Showed that video about unique voices to my vocal teacher and she said that the video is right soo...

  • @dariondubiuos123456
    @dariondubiuos123456 6 лет назад +480

    In my opinion, we really don’t just listen to music for the words. If that were the case we wouldn’t have people like foreign artists. I think its shallow to say that the sound of someones voice or the twang they give in performances is bad or shouldn’t be celebrated.

    • @Gameworks1407
      @Gameworks1407 6 лет назад +7

      The style restricts their artistic freedom, it's like giving a painter a broken brush. This style causes bad pitch precision, awful melismata, no control over volume and causes major vocal problems.

    • @drigao16
      @drigao16 6 лет назад +5

      Ive Mc Fallen How? Give evidence...

    • @Gameworks1407
      @Gameworks1407 6 лет назад +5

      A simple comparison would do. Halsey next to Beyonce. Beyonce goes from loud to soft, while I've rarely heard Halsey sing above mezzo voce. Beyonce can reach down to C3, while retaining control and up to C6, Halsey's never even reached C3 or C6. Comparing melismata would be a joke. I've heard Halsey be so flat it wasn't even in the lower notes flat range. Therefore Halsey is restricted. And since singing in her airy tone would dry the vocal chords there is a big chance she's gonna have vocal damage.

    • @drigao16
      @drigao16 6 лет назад +24

      Ive Mc Fallen Does she needs to hit high notes? I don't think it fit her style, and beyoncé is a R&b singer. There's a lot of great singer without big range. I'm not saying Halsey is an example of someone in full control over the voice, I'm just saying that only a doctor can tell if her vocals are damaging her vocal chords, we are not.

    • @Gameworks1407
      @Gameworks1407 6 лет назад +5

      Of course, you don't need a big range. But even without range, her control is minimal, meaning she is restricted. If your style doesn't demand at least some amount of high vs low then your style restricts you. Low notes, mid notes, and high notes all give different emotions, how loud or soft you sing them also give different emotions, how you phrase them to which tempo all combine, not being able to sing high and/or low or loud and/or soft restricts you.

  • @shelbyyoungest
    @shelbyyoungest 6 лет назад +48

    When you brought up Opera I went ‘NO DON’T CALL ME OUT LIKE THIS’
    I’ll admit, when singing classically, I think of almost a British accent to give me tall, open sounds, only a touch of bright sounds (e being the absolutely last thing you hear in a dipthong vowel, instead of going straight to that wide sound such as in pop, like the letter/word, I, is more of an AH-(ee), because of course the open vowel allows opera singers to project and healthily carry the sound and note).
    The genre is ALL about open sounds and open spaces, because closing off affects the pitch and projection (like he said, projection is important pretty much only in opera, because opera is NO MICROPHONES WHATSOEVER)

    • @inthemoment8791
      @inthemoment8791 5 лет назад

      Unless you're being recorded!

    • @jhart1127
      @jhart1127 5 лет назад +4

      When people say "British accent" and they mean a teeny tiny minority accent of London. Which is in England. One of the 4 countries in Britain 😩

    • @JDsayslol
      @JDsayslol 5 лет назад

      @@jhart1127 ok

  • @ameliedean7197
    @ameliedean7197 6 лет назад +43

    I found your channel a few days ago and I can't stop watching your videos. You're so positive and explain things in an actually understandable way. Honestly just thank you

  • @Gabriel-ud5hu
    @Gabriel-ud5hu 6 лет назад +49

    The part about "projecting your voice" got me like "holy shit, that's SO TRUE". Loved your explanation on this part because a bad sound crew and bad microfone can screw up with any live show and any singer regardless of vocal talent.

  • @RachelsDarling
    @RachelsDarling 6 лет назад +536

    I think the “indie girl” thing is not appealing. I find airiness and breathiness very easy as a singer, but I would never sing like that because personally just annoying to me, that’s just my opinion though. but your explanations for accents makes so much sense and changed my opinions a lot, different styles of singing are required for different styles of music

    • @RachelsDarling
      @RachelsDarling 6 лет назад +3

      your videos are so helpful and informative!! I’m so glad to have found this channel

    • @foxsisters6257
      @foxsisters6257 6 лет назад +9

      RachelsDarling i guess breathing’s is fine if it comes naturally(like if you have a husky voice) but it’s not nice if it’s forced

    • @elanan9411
      @elanan9411 5 лет назад +1

      OH YES PREACH LORd

    • @naritruwireve1381
      @naritruwireve1381 5 лет назад +22

      I personally find airiness and breathiness (when not overdone) really attractive for songs that are more intimate with a lot of emotional lyrics. It'd be a bit weird for some songs like that to be sung with a powerful or neutral speaking voice kind of volume.

    • @YouWillGetThereBuddy
      @YouWillGetThereBuddy 5 лет назад +22

      Airyness and breathiness is super attractive when applied stylistically... Look at billie eilish for instance. A lot of the shit she sings about and the style of her music requires it...
      The "indie voice" is very technical and is not always easy for most... But because people choose to hate in it they don't even bother to try and understand what is required to do it healthily... Simply cuz uts new and unconventional...

  • @SirDave
    @SirDave 6 лет назад +38

    Wow, 8:35-9:17 was such a clear explanation, that helps a lot and of course makes a lot of sense. The examples you employed afterwards were spot on too.

  • @mikaerin
    @mikaerin 6 лет назад +1292

    is it just me or does he sound like justin bieber from 9:10-9:18

    • @melaniecisneros6379
      @melaniecisneros6379 6 лет назад +126

      mika erin it reminded me more of Shawn Mendes

    • @srt10acrx
      @srt10acrx 6 лет назад +32

      I thought the same thing. Very JB

    • @AMcDub0708
      @AMcDub0708 6 лет назад +33

      He sounded EXACTLY like Bieber!!!

    • @theasiancroissant1215
      @theasiancroissant1215 6 лет назад +19

      He sounds like that becuz when he started learning how to sing, he aimed for that type of voice 🙂

    • @bubbassegment6744
      @bubbassegment6744 6 лет назад +23

      And right before that, he kind of almost sounded like Brendon Urie

  • @delsunreys
    @delsunreys 5 лет назад +383

    Then again, if all singers sang well-projected and with good volume and didn’t adjust the odd vowel here and there, the world would be a massive broadway show 💁🏼‍♀️
    edit: bro i haven’t even got more than 10 likes before, u lovely humans

    • @itzzy1859
      @itzzy1859 4 года назад +8

      that's not true at all. the majority of iconic pop singers who can actually sing do everything you stated. from whitney to mariah to hayley to demi. while they could, most definitely, sing on broadway, that doesn't mean their voices are suited for it, and certainly doesn't mean they're meant for it because they enunciate and actually project.
      the singers faking their accents would fucking wreck their voices if they tried projecting and enunciating correctly. their throat muscles wouldn't be able to keep up.

  • @bjsaringan5864
    @bjsaringan5864 6 лет назад +32

    Thank you for this! Newbies/Amateurs gets discouraged by those kind of videos. It's really just style. That's it.

  • @stinw.9226
    @stinw.9226 6 лет назад +29

    ALSO I just wanted to say I rly love watching your videos, I think even when you’re disagreeing with someone and giving your personal opinion you are ALWAYS respectful and kind towards the people you’re critiquing and we always need more decent people in the world, so thank you!

  • @megansimpson1918
    @megansimpson1918 6 лет назад +843

    I've never really liked Halsey's voice for some reason🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @lauren3596
      @lauren3596 6 лет назад +30

      Megan Simpson SAME

    • @lauren3596
      @lauren3596 6 лет назад +80

      ITS SO ANNOYING

    • @MzTogar
      @MzTogar 6 лет назад +63

      Megan Simpson its forced

    • @beItway
      @beItway 6 лет назад +72

      That video is so old her voice has improved greatly. See her stripped Eyes Closed performance.

    • @musicbyerii5962
      @musicbyerii5962 5 лет назад +27

      same here. it kinda sounds pretentious at times

  • @Chelaxim
    @Chelaxim 6 лет назад +35

    I think their issue with the indie voice is because these diva worshipers go by the book with technique. The indie voice goes against everything they know. It's like when people who rioted during Igor Stravinsky's Rite of Spring in 1913 because of their brains were not used to dissonant chords. I think the better example of Jessie J putting on an accent would be the fact that she is British and I find it funny when Indie singers get bashed while people who are not from the US or Canada sing with an American accent. On a side note I find it funny how some of the same people who called Iggy Azalea fake because Australians don't sound like that have no problem with Keith Urban.

  • @cadisquire8592
    @cadisquire8592 6 лет назад +81

    I've always had problems with people telling me to 'project my voice'and hearing you saying the things I've always thought about using microphones has made me so happy!!!

    • @justaannoyingvegan3655
      @justaannoyingvegan3655 6 лет назад

      Cadi Squire omg hey cadi, haha I’m in the same school as you, you may not know me it’s poppy😂

    • @cadisquire8592
      @cadisquire8592 6 лет назад

      FoodNMe * which year are you in?

  • @arianya7076
    @arianya7076 5 лет назад +56

    Honestly I don't care how they sing if I like what I hear I listen to it

  • @RosieEBT
    @RosieEBT 6 лет назад +151

    'I am _actually_ a vocal coach' 😂

    • @mayarabaggio6985
      @mayarabaggio6985 6 лет назад +6

      Rosie i think is a shade for Selena "Vocal Coach" LOL

  • @hollymorgan7420
    @hollymorgan7420 6 лет назад +605

    the halsey singing compare with the indie girl vine was just a meme that got popular. this person took a joke waaaay too seriously

    • @pewpewpew3212
      @pewpewpew3212 6 лет назад +67

      To be fair, the vine was making fun of people who sing like that

    • @AegyoKpop913
      @AegyoKpop913 6 лет назад +56

      Ingrid Al yes, and it was accurate af

    • @aliupsr
      @aliupsr 6 лет назад +17

      You have obviously missed the point of him referencing the vine in discussion to Halsey's voice.

  • @brandong7557
    @brandong7557 6 лет назад +44

    I wanna see a reaction video to Lana Del Rey !!!

  • @swaggsterswagger
    @swaggsterswagger 6 лет назад +320

    Jessie Reyez actually does have a weird voice in general though 💀 it's dumb that they would put her in that video as if her voice was fake

    • @elizabethm4824
      @elizabethm4824 5 лет назад +2

      I have a hard time believing that she comes by the weird voice naturally. She’s from Brampton.

    • @user-dz2hj6jo5h
      @user-dz2hj6jo5h 5 лет назад +19

      She sounds like the accent she speaks in. I’ve seen interviews of her, her singing to me sounds like her accent with extensions in vowels to fit the song.

    • @sanaajennings6285
      @sanaajennings6285 5 лет назад +6

      she does have a cool voice and I think its cause of her natural accent

    • @teancoffee208
      @teancoffee208 5 лет назад +4

      Her voice is so broken to me. I like it. It lends itself well to conveying emotion.

  • @Mharriscreations
    @Mharriscreations 6 лет назад +210

    I think that the general idea of the video, that the "indie girl" sound isn't really unique is true though. I'm not saying anything about the vocal techniques or anything like that. That specific style is becoming oversaturated.
    That doesn't make it wrong, or bad. Just used a lot.

    • @mvanpelt9124
      @mvanpelt9124 6 лет назад +6

      Michael Harris I agree, I just think the video he was reacting to was oversimplifying it by saying Kahlid fit into the indie girl style, and that he used the same exact technique as all the other singers in that video. but, yeah, that’s really true that that technique is really overdone.

  • @v4mpire_doll
    @v4mpire_doll 5 лет назад +43

    "Don't even get me started on country!"
    *starts on country*

  • @stinw.9226
    @stinw.9226 6 лет назад +43

    I’ve always felt kind of the same way about this “indie” voice (although I don’t like rly like grouping all these new age singers into one group because every persons voice and techniques are still so different) and I was worried that Zhavia would have that same sort of generic indie sound the first time I heard her, but I’ve realized her voice is actually incredibly unique. In my opinion, the voice that she’s presenting sounds quite natural. ANYWAYS IM JUST RAMBLING BECAUSE IVE JUST RECENTLY DISCOVERED HER and I am VERY impressed and intrigued.

  • @everybodysux4997
    @everybodysux4997 6 лет назад +148

    I always find videos like these annoying. As someone who was in choir and did musical theater I was always told to lose the "accent" but that's just the way my voice sounds naturally when I sing. It's very jazzy/carribean seeing as how I am carribean. I'd say videos like these prove these singers are unique since a lot of people think that if you don't have an pop R&B or pop Soul voice youcan't sing. I personally enjoy singers experimenting with vocals instead of just belting. without experimental vocals we wouldn't have scatting

    • @diondredunigan2583
      @diondredunigan2583 6 лет назад

      Ohh Casheyana well I’m a choir you’re supposed to be able to blend very well as to sing like one voice but bring out that originality in solos and what not.

    • @ally2424
      @ally2424 6 лет назад

      Ohh Casheyana It's also so annoying because you like the style and than someone comes and says "yes but that is bad and this...and this.. and that also... . I DON'T FUCKING CARE, I like how it souds. Point. I hate how there is just for EVERYTHING a video on RUclips with the title "Why... is actually the worst"

  • @projectz975
    @projectz975 5 лет назад +327

    am i the only one that gets a "grrr! young women are having fun & being successful and im UPSET about this" vibe from the original video?

    • @Amm2187_
      @Amm2187_ 5 лет назад +34

      GLITTERPRINCESS nope, not the only one. Young girls & women never get to do things for fun/that they like without constant criticism 🙄

    • @rachiegibb1287
      @rachiegibb1287 5 лет назад +6

      Yes this 100%

    • @Brynwyn123
      @Brynwyn123 5 лет назад +18

      It happens to literally everything women like right up until men decide they like it. Star Trek. The Beatles. Video Games. It's happening currently with fanfiction, despite franchise tie-ins being payed fan fiction. This is literally just 'i don't like that women don't sing like the specific men I like to listen to'. Letting you g girls and women be happy and have fun takes so much less energy!

    • @paulhunter2524
      @paulhunter2524 5 лет назад +6

      GLITTERPRINCESS fosh, and just a general elitism which definitely has gendered roots

    • @asha_jane
      @asha_jane 5 лет назад +20

      I didn't really get that from the video, I saw as them having this idea of the indie voice and then searching for any examples that slightly resemble it to prove their point. They used Khalid as an example as well, so I don't really think gender was a factor, it's just more common with female singers

  • @eden-q2u
    @eden-q2u 6 лет назад +880

    can you react to mason ramsey- famous (a song by walmart kid)? i heard it this morning and its the cutest thing i've watched in like 3 years

    • @trinityhausner5385
      @trinityhausner5385 6 лет назад +8

      Ewa agreeeeedddd. Thought it was so cute!

    • @drewm.2790
      @drewm.2790 6 лет назад +6

      Ewa it was cute, the song sounds like a hit from an old country Taylor's album ❤❤❤

    • @sweetpjeb23
      @sweetpjeb23 6 лет назад +4

      It's actually a really good song. I mean, there's gotta be a fuckton of autotune or something in there but it's still really good.

    • @nat-wf2rr
      @nat-wf2rr 6 лет назад

      I LOVE IT ITS #7 ON THE CHARTS & I WANT IT TO RISSSE

    • @natedavid3873
      @natedavid3873 6 лет назад +7

      Ewa I'm super disappointed in him. I was expecting a classic country song from him with yodelling in it but instead we got this watered down, mediocre, modern country pop which he obviously didn't write. The music Industry has destroyed his potential to revive an older style of county.

  • @RosieEBT
    @RosieEBT 6 лет назад +15

    Love that you're bringing back using Can't Help Falling in Love as your example song 🙌🏻

  • @welllazvdo2216
    @welllazvdo2216 6 лет назад +6

    You are very shady while clever and confident in your words.
    It's a compliment. 😊💞

  • @essennagerry
    @essennagerry 6 лет назад +34

    Playing around with accents is one of my favorite things to do when playing with my voice. :D
    Often when I try imitating someone's singing I get closer and closer and at some point I can't get any closer cause I can't bring myself to try anymore - I fall into some mesh of that singer's voice and my own and then unintentionally discover this brand new sound for my voice that I enjoy so much that I can't help but just go on and enjoy it. XD

  • @emanas2530
    @emanas2530 6 лет назад +9

    Already a fantastic video! Can't praise you enough, Tristan...your approach to respectful conversation was spot on! Seriously, I'm squee-ing in joy...here on the internet, where it is usually quick responses and hiding behind the screen and sarcasm -- meme humor has its place, but....This was SO REFRESHING!
    Good job, man, good job.

  • @quanzy121
    @quanzy121 5 лет назад +150

    Unique is unique
    This person was low key trolling for no reason
    And a lot of singers don’t force themselves to sing that way .. it is natural sometimes 🤔

    • @quanzy121
      @quanzy121 5 лет назад +16

      Koinii Chuu
      Just because you started singing that way doesn’t mean it isn’t natural for them 🤔

    • @danielepereira3878
      @danielepereira3878 5 лет назад +18

      @@quanzy121 it is not natural.

    • @cassidy5748
      @cassidy5748 5 лет назад +16

      there is no way it is natural for all the people doing it to think that is absurd . not even a good percentage, a very low percent it would be natural

    • @aaronbrown8377
      @aaronbrown8377 4 года назад +3

      It's not natural. Singing a bit flat is natural, singing like an alcoholic gospel singer is performative.

  • @NeshaNichellee
    @NeshaNichellee 6 лет назад +165

    I never had vocal lessons but I pretty much taught myself how to sing. I sang in choir a little and learned how to breathe properly and all of that. But I taught myself were to place my tongue for certain sounds and I studied singing cause I love it. But I feel like these little RUclips channels that try to sound like they know what they’re talking about. It takes a lot to find a way you love to sing. Ugh no singing is wrong unless it’s painful and uncomfortable lmao 😂 idk

    • @tristanparedes
      @tristanparedes  6 лет назад +8

      💯

    • @jak9926
      @jak9926 6 лет назад +3

      Me too!

    • @NeshaNichellee
      @NeshaNichellee 6 лет назад +7

      Also I know my comment almost makes 0 sense but I hate when someone try’s to tell someone they’re singing wrong just because they don’t like the sound 🤦🏽‍♀️ I have a pretty clear singing voice that’s a little raspy just bc of the way my voice is naturally but I wanted my voice to be clear and strong haha waaaay different from how I sound from I talk. Lol

    • @m0ssb0y
      @m0ssb0y 6 лет назад +2

      same! they're just being judgy and i think they're butt hurt or something

    • @godemarcus5133
      @godemarcus5133 6 лет назад +2

      Hannah Herrick if you searched a little more about this channel, I think you'd realise he know very well what he is talking about...

  • @dea8459
    @dea8459 6 лет назад +45

    I lost it at “Don’t even get me started with that country shit”😂

  • @Ab1g4il
    @Ab1g4il 6 лет назад +283

    I think it's not about being wrong or right but if you like it or not. i don't like the "indie-style" but not because it's wrong, I just don't like it. like, i don't like ariana grande's singing bUT the girl can sing, she is has an incredible control over her voice, i just don't like her technique, and the little whiny thingy she does.

    • @Ignasimp
      @Ignasimp 6 лет назад +6

      Abby Chiazzaro There's nothing incredible about Ariana Grande's vocal control. Lol

    • @dontlookatmyprofilepicxp2532
      @dontlookatmyprofilepicxp2532 6 лет назад +42

      There is though. She can controle her voice without straining her voice like some of these 'unique' voices.

    • @Zinervawyrm
      @Zinervawyrm 6 лет назад

      She also mumbles a lot in many of her songs.

    • @Ignasimp
      @Ignasimp 6 лет назад +8

      bibi ozera She does strain.

    • @PetroleumJellay
      @PetroleumJellay 6 лет назад

      She actually strains a lot but she still sounds pretty in my opinion. Some just don't like her voice because she becomes really nasally when she goes for the higher notes which isn't pleasant to everyone.

  • @RoKer13
    @RoKer13 6 лет назад +478

    This person is basically "politely" bashing people who sing like this. These singers are probably comfortable with this style and most of them sound great. Now enunciation can be an issue with some of these singers, and that can be fixed. That "mrskinnyjeansz3" has his jeans cutting off his circulation, I think lol

    • @DOFT.mp4
      @DOFT.mp4 6 лет назад +4

      For some reason i read "mrskinnyjeansz3"as "mrs.KinnyJeansz3" :p, than I saw that you wrote "him".

    • @Gameworks1407
      @Gameworks1407 6 лет назад +25

      The style restricts their artistic freedom, it's like giving a painter a broken brush. This style causes bad pitch precision, awful melismata, no control over volume and causes major vocal problems. No his circulation is fine

    • @uminavehement510
      @uminavehement510 6 лет назад

      LOL that last sentence, no tea no shade! xD

    • @anita189
      @anita189 6 лет назад

      RoDoz the

    • @kennyblankenship89
      @kennyblankenship89 6 лет назад

      Ive Mc Fallen your wrong

  • @DarkKingdomBlade
    @DarkKingdomBlade 5 лет назад

    This randomly popped into my recommended, so I'm like a year late... Seriously, this video made me so happy. It's so refreshing to hear your positivity compared to the video that was bashing "unique" voices. I wonder if said video maker can even sing, or if they were just bashing on a trend to bash on a trend. Especially considering, I can't seem to find a video of themselves singing. Thank you for the positivity!

  • @slothicecream4651
    @slothicecream4651 6 лет назад +123

    You're videos are so informative I lav it

  • @arianaismybaeblackpinkandb2097
    @arianaismybaeblackpinkandb2097 6 лет назад +17

    Your voice is so beautiful wtf omg 😩 please sing more

    • @cha3265
      @cha3265 6 лет назад +2

      He has a really awesome cover channel listed in the description, go check it out for more of his own singing ❤❤

  • @Phoenix_flame
    @Phoenix_flame 5 лет назад +3

    I'm glad you talked about this! There's nothing wrong with playing with your voice and changing vowels to modify how you sound. That's just music :3

  • @VOLAIRE
    @VOLAIRE 6 лет назад +123

    This video is pretty on point. When that video first came out EVERY comment was agreeing with it. I was like damn... I do sing a little light so I felt kinda down. I'm glad that it turns out that's not THE opinion of the century though. A great example would definitely be classic or any rock, as well because some were nasally, some tried to sound dirty(like Kurt Cobain,) and some do sound clean. It's in every genre. Not just pop. I unfortunately have to pronounce my A's as O's sometimes to hit certain notes. It really is preference as to whether you like a vocalist or not. As long as they're in tune there's no right or wrong. There just is or isn't. And life goes on.

    • @moonskumg1433
      @moonskumg1433 6 лет назад

      Volaire Same girl !

    • @violetvelour361
      @violetvelour361 6 лет назад +5

      You felt personally attacked lol

    • @mvanpelt9124
      @mvanpelt9124 6 лет назад

      oh my god same! I have a really hard time hitting high notes with the “a” vowel, and it strains my vocal chords as opposed to an o. people bashing that type of change shouldn’t have a say because sometimes it physically damages someone’s voice to sing a certain way.

    • @90AlmostFamous
      @90AlmostFamous 5 лет назад

      The problem with this indie voice is that it's main selling point

  • @deniseraq1700
    @deniseraq1700 6 лет назад +30

    Your channel is growing so fast

  • @Skattypip
    @Skattypip 5 лет назад +18

    😂😂😂😂😂😂"If you guys want to say this, this, and that - opera is the real example...LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OPERA" I'm dead.😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Brynwyn123
      @Brynwyn123 5 лет назад +3

      Bordering on petty in my favourite way. "oh you want an actual example? FUCKING OPERA BITCH LETS FUCKING GO"

  • @amkh-_-5020
    @amkh-_-5020 6 лет назад +76

    Please react to vocal evolution of rihanna

  • @andreaandfam3772
    @andreaandfam3772 6 лет назад +124

    Intelligent discussion 👍 love watching x

  • @greggz
    @greggz 6 лет назад +22

    I'm a vocal coach and will deal with this issue once my channel is up in September. This is all about words. "indie girl" accent (which is usually paradoxically signed to a label :p) is a thing, It's a style, a fashion that has cropped up because we all learn through imitation especially if we don't get trained otherwise. Just like bad acting or a bad accents it gets annoying when not done properly and your perception of how "well" it's done varies on many factors like your proficiency in the target language and style. As these are fashions they exist across styles for this he's right. Want to have a field trip analyse the vowel "I" in songs from the nineties and cross reference genres, countries etc. generally they say "AH" (American) and now they say A-I-E (British) etc. Do I believe there is a "real voice"- yes. Is it dependant on accent kind of...can you make a carrer out of immitation and trends? Of, course, will it irk some people- Yes, just like your real voice might. Do I think you should find your "real voice", of course.

  • @keaton_
    @keaton_ 6 лет назад +24

    The SZA/Bea Miller type voice they’re mentioning, it reminds me of Nelly Furtado, especially from her first two albums. Her voice was certainly unique, and it seems like she wasn’t ever able to really get the foothold she deserved.
    It’s certainly not unique, but she pulled it off better than basically anybody in this video.

  • @Eli_Arch
    @Eli_Arch 6 лет назад +43

    I'm very self-conscious about my own sound, I'm afraid that it may sound fake that my regular voice is so... Boring!! This video is a game changer 😀 I'm going to embrace my "unique" sound ;)

    • @tristanparedes
      @tristanparedes  6 лет назад +5

      yaaz!!! 100%!

    • @UnimpressedReviewer
      @UnimpressedReviewer 6 лет назад +2

      Eliza Ávalo at least you can sing, gotta be grateful for what you've got🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @pinkkstarlight.3314
    @pinkkstarlight.3314 6 лет назад +14

    You’re so nice & respectful which is so rare nowadays wowowo

  • @TomMilleyMusic
    @TomMilleyMusic 6 лет назад +40

    I think I have to kind of disagree with the projection thing. Mics can only do so much before they start getting bleed through from everything else on stage and start feeding back. If everything around you is loud, and you're too quiet for it....you're not going to be heard. Mics and EQ can only do so much. I've heard singers where I can hear the mics on the verge of feedback, and the EQ is fine (pushing EQ too much can cause feedback too), and I can't hear anything they're singing. I've heard it even with some pretty low key country stuff with acoustic instruments, and they're practically whispering. Like....it's just not going to work. Maybe if you find some specific mics that have better isolation qualities....but don't expect the sound guy to have "your" mic, or even if you bring yours, don't expect them to know how to use it.
    I think if you want to sing light and airy, the music behind you has to also be fairly light and airy. If the song goes up in dynamics, so should you....or you're not going to be heard. There's also an argument for having good musicians in your band who will adjust their dynamics to the singer. So yeah, I don't totally disagree, I see your point, but I do think there are situations where you just can't be quiet and airy and the mics/sound technicians just aren't going to be able to help. Learning good mic technique is also a thing that more singers should learn, not that no one does or anything. But just making sure you're not cupping the mic, or singing too off axis, pulling away when you get louder, going in close when softer, and you might have to change your tone as you get closer due to the proximity effect making your voice darker as you come closer.

  • @TheHorseLover77
    @TheHorseLover77 5 лет назад +60

    I’m going to have to disagree with you when you said that singers don’t have to project into microphones. Sound technicians can only do so much, you can only turn up the gain of a microphone so far before you get feedback so when a singer is not projecting they won’t be heard.

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 5 лет назад +3

      Also vocals are purposefully limited in frequencies along with the rest of the instruments. Any frequencies outside the allotted frequencies get erased. Probably one of the reasons why the guitar has went away is that is clashes with the vocal frequency from this vocal style. I know Lady Gaga and Rihanna get drowned out when they are singing with rock bands such as Bon Jovi and The Rolling Stones.

  • @JosephineDeSmet
    @JosephineDeSmet 6 лет назад +1312

    I don't like those trends. people want to sound unique but so many cover artists are copying this trend and thus not sounding unique at all anymore.

    • @scoob1670
      @scoob1670 6 лет назад +31

      Josephine De Smet what if people just feel comfortable singing softly ?

    • @JosephineDeSmet
      @JosephineDeSmet 6 лет назад +86

      scoobydoobydoodle it's not about soft... It's about the people forcing their voices to sound a certain way it wasn't meant to sound instead of accepting their own sound

    • @jillian7015
      @jillian7015 6 лет назад +18

      You just dont have trained ears

    • @cyber_dildonics
      @cyber_dildonics 6 лет назад +145

      Did you watch the video? The indie accent is what distinguishes the indie genre, just like the country accent belongs to the country genre, the hip hop accent belongs to the hip hop genre etc.. It isn't meant to be unique, it's a staple of the genre.

    • @krispretzel
      @krispretzel 6 лет назад +101

      I think you just missed the point of this ENTIRE video.

  • @lilachace6998
    @lilachace6998 6 лет назад +47

    react to grunge vocalssssssss (layne staley, eddie vedder, chris cornell, etc) i’d love to hear your take on their singing styles!

  • @mackickinback3649
    @mackickinback3649 6 лет назад +64

    I agree with you a lot here but the only thing I have to say is in regards to the whole “not being able to project even with a mic” thing. I love singing and performing, but I also do tech and while I mostly do lighting design work, I have run a sound board many times and anyone who has ever operated a sound board could tell you that there is a limit to what the speakers can do. The quieter a performer is, the more the board op hast to bring up the volume, but you can only bring it so high before you start making or risking poor sound quality or a feed back loop. Feedback is very, very bad and can actually cause expensive equipment to fail or even explode if bad enough. It may seem like the volume can just go up and up forever and if you can’t hear the performer then it’s the sound guys fault, but when the singing is that quiet there’s nothing tech can do, that’s on the performer.

    • @peachisoro
      @peachisoro 5 лет назад +2

      Michelle Holland I was gonna say this exact point!! If you’ve ever performed professionally , they still tell you to project your voice. I’ve done musical numbers on stages that have to be heard by 2500 people, you still need to project.

    • @JDsayslol
      @JDsayslol 5 лет назад +3

      @@peachisoro yes, my old play instructor used to tell us that microphones do not make you louder, they just carry your voice further away, so you're the same volume but it's as if everyone in the room is right next to you hearing it rather than across an entire theater. This obviously isn't completely true as I've learned but it's a good rule of thumb. As you said there's only so much a sound engineer can do and a good singer/ performer should be able to project, as you aren't in a studio and not everything can be equalized in post. Another aspect is that many of these singers chose to do the airy and whispery/ quiet sound during the first couple sections of the song and then BELT out the last part, which can sound great in the studio with production, but if they aren't able to project during the more whispery parts and control their volume during belting, it all sounds very off and uneven and just BAD IMO. I wish Tristan would've talked about that because there definitely can be very big issues when it comes to volume and projection of a singer, and it isn't the sound engineer's job to pick up the singers slack and somehow know exactly how and when to equalize their volume especially when many are underpaid and overworked.

    • @JDsayslol
      @JDsayslol 5 лет назад +1

      A good example of a singer who's really good at projecting their whispery/ falsetto and balancing the sound of their belts within the same song is Mariah Carey when she sings songs like we belong together or I stay In love.