What If Mace Windu Turned to the Dark Side After Killing Palpatine
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Two What If's in One! If Windu Killed Palpatine what would happen next? What would happen if Windu turned to the Dark Side? Would he try and kill Anakin or coax him into the dark side? Would Mace be able to kill Anakin or would the Chosen One bring balance to the force?
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Why don’t you send boba Fett he get the job done cheaper
What if obi wan fought count dooku instead of anikan in revenge of the sith
i know a good and intresting idea: what if anakin and padme ADOPTED ashoka after she left the Jedi order (as their daughter)
If you were able to make your own sith faction how would you do it? What would you take and discard etc?
Hey buddy. Really like your video and your stab at being one of the anchors of star wars.
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What if Palpatine actually cared about Anakin and saw him as a son-like figure?
Oh that theory has bugged me for awhile I am still waiting for a theorist to do this because the ultimate sith supposed to embody their greed and hatred caring for someone would be intresting.
I wonder What if Palpatine’s son was there from the original and prequel trilogy and how would he interact with the main characters?
The guy tried to transfer himself into his granddaughter’s body. I doubt family ever meant much to him.
@@srstriker6420 I mean based on him being a clone of a being that kills at a whim and set two slave armies for power and just being disowned in the sequel trilogy he would probably talk with anyone who hated his father
@@cdwarrior6582 Fair enough and the fact his sith initiation was murder his family and well since he's a sith we can guess how he did it but keep in mind this is something theoretical cause I think he was the blacksheep of his family and his granddaughter was a byproduct of a failed clone who knows he could have found a kindred spirit in Anakin that or I just REALLY want to see if Palpatine actually cared about Anakin theory
Mace Windu would have been a dangerous threat if he fallen to the dark side. Not as much as the galaxy would have been if Yoda fallen, but still enough to do some damage if left unchecked and allowed to roam the galaxy.
For one thing, I know Vaapad wouldn't work so well for Windu anymore. Especially since he turned to the Dark Side, he wouldn't be able to use it as he could before. His form was all about giving into his aggressive emotions and not feeding off of the rage of his enemy. He would be using his own. Like you said, he would turn to the Dark Side. Windu wouldn't hold onto the Light anymore. And with that, he would have some trouble with Anakin. Anakin's particular form, Djem So, was based on defending and counterattacking. If Windu dives too deep into Juyo/Vaapad, it would be a bit easier for Anakin to unbalance him and deliver the final blow. And this was actually shown in Anakin's duel with Mace Windu in the Episode 3 video game. Eventually, Windu got winded (pun may or may not be intended) and couldn't fight anymore and Anakin finished him off.
Here is neat what if idea: What if Palpatine had a child and trained his child to be the ultimate Sith Lord.
That sounds really interesting
Technically Anakin was his child in a way
@@dakotasoutdoorkitchen2572 excuse me for being a nerd, but:
Darth Plagus was trying to alter the medicholorians and create an entity that was extremely powerful in the force, but they rebelled and created Anakin
@@dakotasoutdoorkitchen2572 Show me the genes that say: "I am the son of Sheev."
Vader be like: wtf bro, why you want replace me... Wait what I have son too?!?!
As a certain Sith Lord with a signature look of superiority would say: "I have been looking forward to this."
What if Anakin took a look at General Greivas early in the clone wars and thought "I could make a better one"?
Or, what if Anakin fought General Greivas?
this one please
*Grievous
Anakin sees TCW Grievous and then creates the _real_ General Grievous.
What if he said that to grievious
Anakin looks at Grievous and is like: what if I made a way with 6 lightsabers?
I liked how u had the Saber be poisoned with the dark side as a last resort like that against the Jedi. Great job
When you were talking about the Jedi finding anakin not guilty “5 votes to 3”, did you have any idea which members of the council would be on each side? Obi wan is a given but what about the others?
I’d say Obi Wan, Yoda, Plo, Shaak Ti with and Mundi, Coleman, & Strass against
@@PentePatrolStarWars awesome- I really appreciate the reply. It’s nice to know what you’re thinking when you write those small details. Does that mean oppo rancisis was the last member who was for?
:) and yes Oppo would be the last for
@@PentePatrolStarWars nice. I wasn’t entirely sure if he was still around by order 66 or if he had already died, but Wookiepedia cleared it up
@@PentePatrolStarWars Coleman Trebor? The guy that died in Episode 2?
I know that I’m nitpicking, but Mace was the Master of the Order. Yoda remained the Grand Master until the Jedi were destroyed by Order 66.
Definitely worth watching. The prophesy in the main timeline clearly states that the Chosen One must kill the last Sith Lord, or disaster would result. This is a good way to make it happen in an alternate timeline.
"The prophesy in the main timeline clearly states that the Chosen One must kill the last Sith Lord"
As far as we know, all it says that the Chosen One "will bring balance to the force". The idea that bringing balance to the force means killing the last of the Sith is the modern Jedi order's interpretation of the prophecy, but not necessarily the correct one - in fact, in Revenge of the Sith, Yoda flat-out admits their interpretation may have been wrong.
In the main timeline, Anakin manages to fulfill multiple interpretations of the prophecy. He does eventually destroy the Sith, although not before joining them. He also equalizes the power balance between the dark and light sides, by killing off the most prominent (and arguably abusive) users of both, leaving only one Jedi and no Sith (or one Sith if you consider the clusterfuck that is Rise of Skywalker to be canon), and only minor orders remaining on both sides.
@@VestedUTuber Balance does not refer to mathematics.
@@kevinthunder3375
When did I say it did? Sounds like you're just trying to pick a fight.
@@VestedUTuber I am not, I'm just saying there is only one true interpretation of the prophecy, as stated by Lucas. The Sith were like cancers in the Force. Didn't mean to sound so perhaps I could have paraphrased it better.
@@kevinthunder3375
You mean the same Lucas that you fanboys also love to constantly contradict and shit on for so many other things? Not saying you're right or wrong, just that you guys are as inconsistent as George Lucas himself and that if you had any self-awareness you'd see how ridiculous it is to cling to his word on one thing when you constantly bitch about his statements on others.
Besides, he may have stated that, but the actual writing went in a different direction. Remember the Bendu from Rebels, or the Force Entities of Mortis from The Clone Wars?
A few things....As a Dark Jedi or Sith Lord depending on how far he's "fallen" to The Dark Side of The Force and what his motives are...Mace Windu would no longer be able to use Vapaad as his frame of mind would permanently be full of FEAR ANGER HATE PASSION and POWER. It will also be fixed on the past and future rather than the moment. His emotional state would make him lose as he'd be unbalanced by the surge of power caused by the Dark Side. He'd either stick with Form VII and use Juyo or if unable to use VII due to being unable to control the power and lack of concentration...he'd use Form V combined with Form IV with some Form 2 techniques in there kind of like Vader.
Gotta say man, as someone who has watched (and been in) quite a few Star Wars What-if's, these are top notch! You don't have nearly as many subscribers as you should and I hope you get there someday! Keep 'em coming, and may the force be with you.
Thank you so much! May the Force Be With You!
Windu: Come on, kriffholes. I'll take you all. You're mine! Mine! I run this galaxy! Hey, over here! Hey! Jedi down! Come on! HEY! Kriffholes! You never understood what I did! Fifty of me and this galaxy would be OK. I took the trash out! I DID! And I'd do it all again...
Wow 😮 🤩 😯! That was very great and very epic! I really love how Padme Amidala is still with Anakin Skywalker, Ashoka Tano is now part of the Jedi Order again, Luke and Leia are getting trained as the next generation of Jedi, Anakin Skywalker is now a Jedi Master on the Jedi Council, and the Jedi are now back to being keepers of the peace serving the people of the Galaxy, as Mace Windu once pronounced that the Jedi are “keepers of the peace, not soldiers”.
Loved this what is video. I’ve always wondered what Master Windu would be like if he turned to the dark side, and now I know.
Also, I really hope and pray that I’m one of the other two winners of a lightsaber. I have been trying so hard to get myself one for cosplay and movie purposes
Both Mace and Anakin were truly master duelists
mace was master of the order not grandmaster. master of the order means he runs the council. grandmaster means runs the order
WRONG... Mace Windu was NOT, The Grandmaster of the Jedi Order, he was The Master of the Jedi Order. Which is the rank underneath, the Grandmaster rank -- everybody knows that Yoda, was The Grandmaster of the Jedi Order before, exiling himself directly after Anakin's fall to the Dark Side, & after failing to kill Emperor Palpatine.
If Count Dooku told Obi - Wan Kenobi that Darth Sidious aka Chancellor Palpatine was in control of the Galactic Republic, then why didn't Obi - Wan tell Anakin about that situation in Revenge of the Sith?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Another great theory! When I was trying to enter my name, it wouldn’t let me add my name. I don’t know if I was doing it wrong but I couldn’t figure it out.
Keep up the great work and I love your content!
Thank you so much and I'll add it for you!
@@PentePatrolStarWars thank you, appreciate it
What if Vader succeeded in bringing padme back at the end of Vader immortal?
I'd be interested in your take on the old classic, "What if Mace survived his duel with Sidious and Anikan".
Anakin
This crossed my mind and I look forward to seeing how this plays out. Be another great video.
What if Padme bought Shimi Skywalker's freedom after The Phantom Menace, but was now Padme's slave?
What if anakin was given the rank of master during the clone wars
thanks for every video, they always bring a smile to me. here's a what if, what if Vader had the cybernetics of general gervous.
Mace Windu: What have I done!
Anakin: *dawning palpatines robes.* The Jedi have taken over, like Commander Cody, Execute Order 66
Commander cody : Yes my lord
Guns down Anakin for being a jedi
What if Mace Windu asked Anakin to say " What" one more time?
i know a good and intresting idea: what if anakin and padme ADOPTED ashoka after she left the Jedi order (as their daughter)
Hay finally have a face to the voice! You have become my favorite fan fiction writers on RUclips! This one has an interesting twist. I’m listening to the beginning now!
I remember somebody wrote that story about Mace turning. "Fall of the Sith" it was called.
Another day another absolute banger video
Thank you so much!
I think Sidious used a trick of Sith sorcery to cast a soul trap on Anakin. It seems to be a subtle effect until the victim is goaded into a willful evil act. Then, the jaws snap shut, seizing the subject and enslaving them to the dark side. It was his ace in the hole to ensure the survival of the Sith, even if he were killed. Whoever killed him, provided he had the chance to set the trap, would become a Sith themselves. This is the only way I can justify Anakin's rapid descent into depravity. From hero of the republic to murderer of younglings in a moment. It had to be a dark side trap.
Maybe Anakin was just a rotten apple.
Don’t know if you’ve done these yet or not, but how about “what if plagius killed palpatine first?” or “what if anakin skywalker was never born?”
Just had another idea; this probably seems weird but I’m a massive kit fisto fan so I’d be cool to see where you take this - “what if kit fisto survived the fight with palpatine (and order 66 entirely)?”
Yeah, having watched Clone Wars before the prequels, I was disappointed at how quickly Fisto was killed. He deserved better :.(
@@MarkusAldawn him and plo koon are my two favourite members of the Jedi council (minus anakin, and obi wan is pretty close). I’m glad plo koon is so highly respected now, but feel kit fisto is still kind of under appreciated.
This is amazing bro great job
Thank you so much!!
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This is a great video, hope you do what if Anakin learned force lightening
What if there was a multiverse in the Star Wars universe?
Crisis on Infinite Earths SW edition would be fun
We love it and thank you so much for all the work and research and brain power used 😁😁time is precious and I thank you for spending it with us fans so on behalf of all may the force be with you, always!
Loved it, brilliant once again
Man does that purple light saber with the black inside looks sooooo cool!
What if Sidious decided to take Maul back as his apprentice? He's younger than Dooku and could become more powerful with more training.
However...he'd been one of the ONLY Jedi Masters to defeat Dooku and Dooku was one of the Jedi Masters to defeat him.. to master Form VII you need to master forms 1 through to 6
Best duellists in Jedi Order
1. Yoda
2. Mace Windu
3. Dooku
4. Cin Drallig
5. Obi-Wan Kenobi
6. Plo Koon
7. Kit Fisto
8. Anakin Skywalker
9. Qui - Gon Jinn
10. Ahsoka Tano
@@dancooke8811 shaak Ti,Secura, krell,Eith Koth many more are better than Tano in lightsaber combat
@@dancooke8811 dooku bests windu in saber combat
@@dancooke8811 who defeated dooku?
I feel like it's a trend of me saying "amazing video" at the end or every upload so imma keep it that way
Amazing Video Pente once again!
Thank you so much!
Did the Republic ever find out about Palpatine's crimes? Were his files and stuff ever released publically?
wow that's awesome
but I think I'm starting to get addicted to ur videos
I'm watching and rewatching your videos
Thank you so much!
"ITS OVER ANAKIN! I HAVE YOUR SHATTERPOINT!"
Windu’s a blood now 🩸
Great theory that never crossed my mind. Much ❤
I think Anakin vs canon Windu is a clear win for Windy. However, this Windu is making his first steps into the dark side and his form Vapaad actually drained the dark side energy of his enemies and deflected it back to them. As a result when fighting Sidious Windy grew stronger while Sidious grew weaker. But now, as a Sith his own form will be hindring him since it will be weakening his own dark side powers. In this starnge state Windu is weaker and Anakin has a chance of defeating him.
Actually, Vaapad wouldn't work at all and it would just be Juyo.
What if Maul died sooner than expected? Essentially when Anakin ducked out of the way of speeder, a lightsaber diced through and killed Maul right then and there?
Or what if the lightsaber cut diced through the speeder and the tumble permanently disabled Maul? Sound of mind, but not of body. He gets captured by the Jedi and taken in to questioning.
What if Count Dooku became the Supreme Chancellor how would the story change and keep up the amazing work
Palpatine’s blade is the one ring
Even though the Jedi have a way better and happier ending than canon. And will help the people of the galaxy more with this out come.
BUT STILL, I didn't like that those Republic Citizens are super ungrateful bastards/jerks against Anakin and the rest of the jedi after everything.
Surprised and disappointed that nobody else criticized about that particular topic before me?
What if Mace Windu fought alongside Anakin Skywalker in defending the Jedi Temple during Order 66?
What if obi wan fought count dooku instead of anikan in revenge of the sith
What if palpatine didn't lie to anakin and save padme
Mace isn’t a sith just because he used the dark side…and he wouldn’t be crazed…. Using vapaad he walked the line with the dark side, he channeled it all the time. This is a very dangerous moment for Anakin, in fact the only reason obiwan handled himself so well was his fighting form, and his knowledge of Anikan due to the training and missions together
This is a what if.
@@blackandwhitecats4243 Yes, I can read and hear same as everyone else. What is your point?
@@jayghale You're talking Mace wouldn't become a sith just because he uses the darkside and be crazy,which is true he wouldn't.What I don't understand is you are explaining the "what would" in this video,because this is a what IF.Key word if,small possibility or unlikely.This ignores his channeling of the dark side and conveniently forget his "not give in to true power" training to make this happen.
It's kinda pointless to explain the what would,like the Aayla secura video she would never date Anakin because of his personalities she doesn't like about him to not make it happen.
@@blackandwhitecats4243 the video is “What If mace turned to the dark side” not what If mace window lost his brain cells, if someone is making a good What If video the idea is to see how things Would change based on those decisions…. But if you change the character in a way that isn’t true to the character it’s just a bad what if. Your point about aayla does have Some merit but it’s a false equivalence.
many many things changed for that scenario, in this… mace accepted the dark and Anikan arrived a bit late. That’s not the same thing. That being said I disagree with how he handled Windu’s character, it’s my right to disagree and your right to disagree with my disagreeing, so cool we can agree to disagree and go about our Mary Way.
It's a great story,but doesn't exactly explain how the senate let Anikin free.
my dude, this video is so good i had to come back to watch it again.
Mace's Vapood would be useless if he's a sith
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
@@lithoselsteinii6892and anakin fighting the way he is in this universe he’d win big time
I remember on what if like this but Palpatine manipulates Windu into thinking that the Jedi temple is overrun by Sith and so Windu goes to the Jedi temple and does what Anakin did but Yoda is able to pull him out of the his state of mind, not sure what happened to Anakin
What if Anakin was the Sith’ari(Sith chosen one)?
What if predator and alien army came to star wars during the clone wars.
I’m envious of ur storytelling
What if Ahsoka had the same potential as Anakin but the Jedi Order didn't know.
This is your greatest video so far can't wait see your next video
Mace Windu isnt the grand master. He is the master of the order.
the details of exactly how anakin was released is missing.
OK, if Mace windu turn to the Darkside, I don’t think Anakin would’ve turned to Darkside, then seen that Mace windue would make Anakin be like nope I’m not turning to the dark side and even better. The Jedi would possibly trust him since. Mace windue turn to the dark side.
Windu isn't in another league as a duelist compared to Anakin at this time, there about the same along with yoda, if you want to say he has a better range of force powers, ok but he's not that much of a better duelist come rots if at all
The dark side wouldn’t make him arrogant . If so reven , dooku , Vader would have been weaker with the dark side . Windu with the dark side might even beat yoda . So he would demolish anakin .
What if Mace Windu became a mentor to Boba Fett after Clone Wars season 2 Ep. 22 and watched over Boba to put Boba on the right path?
Maul would have given Palpatine up just like he did in Legends
Really enjoyed this.
Padme was a Senator not a Lawyer. They don't crossover and if she was close to giving birth she wouldn't have taken the case at all.
Ehh windu wouldn’t be able to beat Anakin in combat especially if Anakin used the dark side, because once windu turned he wouldn’t be able to use vaapad, it’s even said to use it you have be a being of pure light and be anchored to the light and use your darker emotion and let it absorb your opponents darkness and redirect it back to them fueling your own power, but windu as you said fell completely, so there fore he can’t use vaapad and would lose. Also it was said dooku was superior in light saber combat, he was better and Anakin beat him so windu would lose if we take all the facts.
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This is just amazing I am definitely going to have to catch up with your vids I have been really busy lately lol it been a while
Do a video with what if asajj ventress Join the Jedi order As a child I think she can relate to Anakin and she would be great friends with Anakin she could even stand up for Anakin every time he was bullied by his fellow classmates because she was a slave to someone who took away from her home
Anakin - I told you not to do it
Darth Mace - stfu Skywalker and take a seat
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Palpatine used his body transfer alchemy and possessed WINDU!!!!
Mace was too powerful for that especially he was in Vaapad killing Palpatine so that body transfer alchemy a darkside art wouldn't have worked on him.
What if order 66 happened during the attack of the clones?
Windu isn’t the grandmaster yoda is but this is a good theory
Look like they don't know how to check the fingerprint on the lightsaber in star wars world. We are more advance than star wars
someone i forgot their name had a animated version but it was what if vader and luke went back in time it ended off with mace windu turning to the dark side
I think it was SWT
I don’t know if you played Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Sega but what if Palpatine audibly ordered 67
Man i really love The sith empire invades the clone wars I think you should do sith empire invades the original trilogy or sequel trilogy
Please do what if jedi dooku trained anakin
What if douku stayed in the order and trained anakin
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Love This Video Dude
What if anakin was the master of the order
I know this video this was made two years ago, but I just want to say Anakin that was not mace windue That was an evil sith controlling him and if he was still alive after that mace windue Would be proud of you and I do think Mace windue would probably trust him even the Jedi might trust him, but yeah that’s my theory
This was pretty good!
what if Darth Bane killed khan and took control of the sith and restructured them kind of light during the rule of one with Darth Krayt so that the time of darkness didn’t end? It be interesting to see how the galaxy would change by the time of the clone wars and the finding of anakin. Or What if the Jedi didn’t de-militarize after the last sith war and kept the feudalistic system they had during that time (where they lived had families and ruled planets) as they saw that that was the only way to stop the sith effectively.
what if the old republic never stopped using republic troopers
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What if anakin didn't save obi wan and left with palpatine after killing duku
But if Anakin doesn't kill Mace Windu and Palpatine is dead then Padama would not die of a broken heart because of the evil things Anakin Skywalker had done so Padama would have been fine and not gone into labor
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What an amazing story
Thank you so much!