IMPORTANCE OF FASHION AND RANT ON LIGHT ROLL | Elden Ring PvP
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- Fashionable look with Light roll is rather common combination in Elden Ring PvP so let's talk about it
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I got to cosplay. How else would Reddit know I’m Berk from Butts.
Nuts from jizzerk
I mean, fashion and roleplaying in PVP is the fun of it. I'm gonna talk about builds in general, not just fashion.
There is no other game where you can make a custom build and take it into PVP against other players. Not that I know of anyway.
If everyone was using the most optimal shit, the variety and fun factor would be rather low.
The most optimal stuff gets samey after a while, to use, and to fight against. The best armors in game are hideous.
The best few weapon setups are fun in moderation. But using them all the time gets boring.
Why not use mid tier, but much cooler armor? Why not use weapons that are one or two steps down from meta that are more fun/stylish? You can still win, and it makes things fun.
Winning with less than optimal gear also feels more rewarding than winning with the best stuff. That's just my take though.
Above all I think most players enjoy thematic roleplaying builds in Souls Games. It's more fun, there's more variety to it, and most players just don't think of these games in a competitive way. They aren't going to sacrifice what's fun for what's best.
I've always defended the tryhards. There's nothing wrong with playing that way. But I see why most players just don't.
Yeah personally I always try to a have a compromise for example my Axe of Godfrey build still has 100+ poise while looking pretty good imo.
Jfc drunk, do you not have a real life at all?
I’ve been doing a build where i play as each of the knights of the lands between(godrick, redmane, cuckoo,etc.) with their respective AOW on a heavy partisan and the shield they use. Highly recommend
@@zawarudo8991 i spend 2 minutes writing a RUclips comment and I have no life huh
Seems like you didn't think that one through very hard.
@@Drunk_Souls no it‘s cus you always write these dumbass paragraphs everywhere under every video, this even being a short one for you.
I just like to look pretty while I'm invading
Not everything needs to be optimized or carefully considered.
You can do it & if you have fun doing it then do it because that's the most important thing in every game, that the player has fun or a good time.
it's for aesthetic reasons. u want to win with a character you've designed maybe; u get to see ur character becoming. you might also build around what tools a character might use, bc that's part of the storytelling fun. or u want ppl to look at ur nice outfit when they die. it's like how a social media presence reflects ur own life as a story back at u. or u just don't like how the optimal armour sets look. it's not (always) cope for being bad. you are drawn aesthetically to one part of the game, but the other stuff you're drawn to (pvp) is at odds with those elements. so u kind of force it, make do. it's still cope, but it's cope for the game putting them on the backfoot for wanting to play dress up. game says "you can have one or the other, not both". the cope can mean they have a mental block about engaging with interesting parts of the meta tho... so it can look similar to skill cope externally.
For as much as people say they care about fashion over in function in Souls games, I sure do see a lot of people wearing the same outfits.
Nights cavalry, Radahns (with built in ROB), Ronins armor, veteran's and beast champion for the sweats.
Because elden ring armor sucks, with all armor being ugly no one feels like they are missing much if they just go for stats
People act like ds3 was any different. Just because all the armors were the same shit tainted hue and combined BC of that, doesn't mean the fashion was good@@abrahamrangel2326
I love the drakeblood knight torso along ragewolf leggings. I think it looks incredible. Plus, malenia's gauntlet looks great on everything with the special prosthetic arm. Pair that with the crimson hood and the set up looks super cool imo.
Balanced setups like the scaled armor look badass as well imo. Also, blaidds armor is pretty cool
I also think elden ring has the best looking "default" knight armor with exception to the elite knight armor from ds1
that ( 7:53 ) might be shag's most shameful death yet LMAO
Light roll VS poise bois - two sides of the same Miyazaki silver dollar
I mean if fat bois have poise then naked masters deserve the lightroll
You can roll 42 base poise and rely on hyper armour. This for medium load with no great jar arsenal. I got a 253 invasion streak back in 1.09 at rl155 on a fashion build. Heavy armour makes you complacent and lowers survival instinct.
I’ve been saying it’s from the jump. High poise breeds brain dead gameplay.
This is obviously not a comment on his skill, but going "only good because of light roll" has the same vibe as "only good because he stacks armor".
Light roll is a valid in-game mechanic and if it's the better option it should be used. This should go without saying in a video about picking optimal armor instead of fashion.
We're duping really powerful consumables, upgrade items and weapons to have any possible edge at invading PVErs, but this in-game mechanic to help the bad players we're bullying is cheesy?
You don't do invasions, do you.Because no hosts are getting bullied
lol yes. It’s funny when the PvP tryhards criticize something like light roll because they themselves are also using the most optimal cheese possible. The irony is palpable. This is coming from a pvp try hard lol
@@Superluminal_30000 I am bullying tons of hosts. What are you on about?
@@Superluminal_30000 Let's be real: the average host isn't exactly the best player out there. The other day I had one acting like a damned NPC and just blindly staring at my character, waiting for me to tell HIM where to go...
Yes, in that sense it's "bullying" because on average, invaders (and even summons helping hosts) are going to be waaaaaaaaaaaaay more skilled than the hosts. Invaders actively feel surprised when the host actually ends up being more challenging than his summons. That right there says everything.
In theory, you're right and there's no bullying going on because both have equal access to the same tools. In practice though, it is true that the very people summoning for help often lack the right mindset to get as good as the average invader. In that sense, invaders rarely find hosts on their skill level, and if they wanted even skill levels, we'd just go to the arena instead. (though yes, the PVP meta in the arena varies a bit from what's used in invasions, since things like healing and the need for damage bursts are different between the two)
I do still get what Steelovsky is saying though. I think it's less about a crutch and more about how it throws entire game systems out the window. To try and explain his point with an analogy, it'd be like if they introduced a weapon that ignored 100% of poise and hyperarmor: this would be hated because that single weapon undermines entire game systems and dumbs down combat as a result. He views light roll similarly, because it deletes: 1) Stamina management while sprinting, 2) The average engagement/involvement of the poise system, 3) Most roll-catch combos. Think of it like Steel rolls up wanting to play Super Mario 64, but because of Light Roll, instead he's playing FIFA, which is completely different. Of course he's gonna be disappointed.
Steel isn't saying light roll is some sort of "invalid mechanic". He gave his reasoning for why he thinks light roll is _cheesy,_ and he even said there's nothing wrong with using cheesy strats. The difference between poise and hyper armour is poise adds another layer to the combat (poise counting) whereas light roll takes a layer away from the combat (spacing). It seems Steel cares less about what's powerful and more about what enables skill expression, which I think is fair.
Lionel’s set, not only the helmet, is unironically my favorite armor in the entire game.
I really like the beast champion set, even before I knew it was the most optimal set for duels.
BC heavy armour in this game is beautiful, it's just that people think of veteran's and Bullgoats as "heavy armour"
I use 40 poise medium roll armor because the optimal armor in the game is SO goddamn ugly that i would straight up stop playing the game if i was forced to wear any of it for longer than a day. I swap to good armor tho when winning is more important to me than looking cool. Ones a vibe, ones for locking in a little harder
I don't usually care for the meta in these games. I prefer using what i find fun, getting really good with it and smahing people who uses meta gear. There isn't anything more satisfying.
I have zero distain for anyone who uses the meta however, use what's fun to you dude. I just prefer a personal challenge with mid tier gear.
Sometimes I handicap myself with just dog water items but that gets older than using the meta.
I love RPGs. To me, there's a limit and a balance to "nerfing yourself." The point is NOT to get stuck on the one tryhard super omega build, but rather to impose limitations on yourself, *THEN* find the strongest setup within the confines of those limitations. So for example, in Elden Ring, as an example I might make a Strength build, Dex build, Arcane build, Int build and faith build, and then with those, I would NOT just slap the damage-type-of-choice on something well-rounded like a Banished Knight's Greatsword and just play the same damned Greatsword five different ways, but instead I would make it a point to try and use weapons typically associated with those build types, then compare and contrast them. The only quick-switching or the like that I would do would be to switch to *other* weapons that match that type, again avoiding just always falling back to the well-rounded, reliable options that compose the meta.
I think Lost is a good example of someone who is reflecting the type of "roleplay" I like to do. Lost does not quick switch mid battle or anything like that, and instead he designs specific builds, *TRIES* to make them good, but then commits to them to see how well they perform. He is not tryharding in the sense that if the build sucks at something, then the build sucks at something and he accepts that. (instead of double spear Bloodhound Stepping away to heal before re-engaging, or things like that)
However, yes, obviously it's more fun to dream up a build *that works* and feels rewarding to play, instead of just going "I'm roleplaying that I'm a terrible character today lol." The people who claim they are specifically limiting themselves are probably either roleplaying as a specific character with heavy limitations attached, (for example, Tragoth's weapon is slow as hell) or just straight-up lying to themselves as an excuse for their losses.
1:28 deepest gg
Light roll + Furled trick mirror talisman for fashion
I refuse to pvp with more than 40 poise or 19% physical resistances because it would infringe upon my drippiness. What good is it to win if you win without looking like 7:58?
What a stupid limitation
Chad
He looks like a nerd but yes the optimal nerds are annoying, we know you like cosplaying as your mom for the high stats but others just like to play the role playing part of the game in their action role playing game
Bro Shag gonna be honest I’d quit the game after getting dagger parried by a fashion lord
After seeing enough “you died” screens throughout the series, fashion brings a great visual to focus on and now death isn’t as bad
“I love rollplay” - redditor 2022
erm where’s my slop steel of Skyrim
Hello, I think if we could hide our armor in Elden Ring and wear something nice over the armor it would be very fun. You would have no idea how much poise someone has and it would look great, that's what other games do.
I try and have a balance if I can get 88 poise and still look pretty good I’ll call that a win my str build actually has 100+ but that’s cause bullgoat or prelate actually looks ok with veterans chest
Yeah 88 poise is very achievable with fashion, I usually have a erdtree favor 88 poise fashion and higher poise fashion with great jar tali swap. It's usually not pretty as the build is adapted for it and not build around it like steel's (which is a cool try hard armor imo)
@@CaioHagge-ve9nk yeah I think some of the more tryhard armor combos can definitely look cool I’m planning a 50 int magic infusion melee build that’s gonna wear Lionel’s helm gloves and pants with Vets chest and It’ll probably look pretty good.
@@CaioHagge-ve9nkwell, unless you use heaviest armors you'd need bull goat tali
going for fashion is just a skill check in action rpgs, elden ring skill ceiling would be higher if pvers didnt went with radhan armor and ranni simp buffs
Its the whole point for me. Winning with bad stats and looking good while doing it. I dont want to win at all costs I want to win with style.
7:53 LOOL omg that guy loves getting embarassed
"One of the trick weapons of the workshop, commonly used by hunters on their duties. Sufficiently deadly as a rigid bladed cane, but also serves as a whip when its blade is split into many. Concealing the weapon inside the cane and flogging the beasts with the whip is partly an act of ceremony, an attempt to demonstrate to oneself that the bloodlust of the hunt will never encroach upon the soul."
"Hat worn by Hunters who admire formality: Some hunters place an emphasis on form, as seen by the use of the threaded cane.
For them, formality, beauty, and justice are the very essence of our humanity, and precisely what keeps hunters from becoming something else."
From this we can conclude that off-meta is SOVL.
Silver Tear Mask + Tree Sentinel Armor + Lionel Gauntlets + Bull-Goat Greaves: Gives 82 Poise, gives +8 Arcane, subtracts 5% Physical AR, weighs 47 Units.
Full Tree Sentinel Armor: Gives 82 Poise, weighs 45 Units.
There are few armor setups in this game that have poor functionality, it's more about them being less efficient compared to other setups. Both setups I just listed have the same Poise, but one gives more raw stats than the other. The Silver Tear Mask gives +8 Arcane and 5% less physical damage, whereas the full Tree Sentinel Set can save you ~1-2 points of Endurance in Equipment Load due to being 2 Units lighter, it's not exactly a fair or even exchange of stats, although one does look better than the other because it's a full cohesive set rather than a mishmash of some brownish clown shoes, some black mittens, a mercurial mask, and an out of place golden chestpiece.
I personally prioritize looks over stats but if my enemy wears armors with good stats and I loe due to getting staggered to oblivion, I don’t have any problems with it. It’s my fault for armor with low poise anyways.
People don’t care about armor stats in PVP because you don’t need to care in PVE. If you have a decent build, armor doesn’t really make much of a difference, so people just go for the prettiest look.
What if poise was tied to a stat, or, your level? Do you think separating the often essential poise from armor would be an improvement?
Then again, lightroll poise monster sounds painful. Other changes might be required...
I'm also in the mindset that a lot of the stronger or heavier armor sets look ridiculous and impractical even. But there's just something about wearing the Albinauric mask with full Fire Prelate armor, with the altered chestpiece. It looks too funny to me, and it seems like it could be an actual armor set for a fat frog boyo as well.
I think the problem is not using optimal builds and THEN complaining. But if you know what you are doing, what you are giving up and you're still ok with that? I think thats ok.
I personally like to find a balance between fun and functionality. Dark Souls 3 was really the only time I did a meta loadout for armor because I just liked the look of the Fallen Knight Helm, Millwood Armor, Gauntlets of Thorns, and Black/Fallen Knight Leggings. It has great resistance to fire so I don't get one shot by pyros, counters ToD, has enough poise to tank a straight sword r1, and just looks pretty damn awesome all around with a lot of my favorite weapons on a strength build.
Obviously if you are wearing only clothes you should have low poise, but i would love if medium sets of armor gave more poise, things like hoslow set for example only gives 48 poise, which is absolutely unusable, or crucible set only giving 71, which is better but not enough.
I would love if medium armors like those 2 were like closer to the minimum required poise and heavier armors only offered a lot more defense and some obscure breakpointts like tanking spninning slash. Because right now the mimimum poise that you require to play against some things means that there are very few armors that are viable
That's only against very specific things like storm stomp. Most weapon attacks do near 200+ poise damage, and even up to 300-600 poise damage. There is no way to get passive poise high enough for that. Hyperarmor adds to passive poise, but passive poise doesn't really give that much edge in that sense. I believe if things like the storm ashes got nerfed passive poise would only be used to poise through daggers, and we could forget about poise stacking.
@@spacedoohicky Passive poise is also essential to not get stunlocked by the second hit of things like curved swords, thrusting swords or offstoc
@@Panurome I don't worry about it too much. I just dodge.
I just need 51 poise for the PVE in my playthrough. The PVP blenders will stagger me regardless. Now I can have some fashion!
*this is on PC. For those curious: my current fashion is banished knight scarf helm, gelmir armor unaltered, radhan gloves, royal remains legs.
The order of operations. Fire Prelate, radahn/crucible, any knight set. Will slack on armor for a bigger stick, always using spell blade armor parts to drop weight then boost ashes slightly.
Dang Shag the tryhard lost to a fashion shinobi cosplayer!
(Just ignore the light roll though)
Is it bad this makes me wanna try light roll? ive never done it before in either pvp or pve. Ive heard it can noticably change how you approach some bosses too which seems interesting
If by interesting you mean mind-numbingly easy then yeah, it's "interesting" lol
@@RLQFK I imagine it'd be easier but I've also heard of people dying cuz they were in light roll. Probably a mental thing ig
@@RLQFKnot mindnumbing but yeah, the distance let's you escape some frametraps
I go with stats, and fashion. I tend to have a little less poise than the max possible. But fashion is not necessarily all bad. Lighter armor tends to have higher status resistance. There are armor builders online which gives you the highest possible poise, and defense for a given character with a given endurance stat. I could very well use that. But seriously a player can win with less than optimal fashion. I do all the time with around 50 poise, and 18-23 negations. Usually when I lose I'm getting boxed in by 2 to 3 people. 1v1, and more often than not when I'm fighting multiple people I still win. For a fashion build that wins the player has to be on point with spacing, and dodging.
I don’t cosplay, but I look for backswing poise and wear what looks good. Veterans and prelate don’t look good to me so I don’t wear them, despite being better statistically. I still win more than I lose so that’s what matters to me. You’ll never catch me getting dagger or twinblade bullied though lol
Use beast champion
@@Blittsplitt5 I do. It’s one of the few heavy sets that look decent. Surely dlc will bring fashionable poise options 🗿
I always optimize around cosplay/fashion, and make the most of my tools
Steel can u do a dex arcane ?!?!
I post and play a lot of PVE content, but did come from a PVP background. In PVE, I can care less, even if I get invaded. PVP though I go more optimized to not get shredded by a butter knife. All of my characters have a fashion souls Magic the Gathering Planeswalker cosplay. They also have a higher poise armor set for PVP if I do feel like playing
i try to build fashion around the stats, in elden ring that's difficult because the window for mid rolling is so huge that you almost always wear the same few pieces, so i don't mind lowering my phys defenses and poise a bit for it. nothing extreme so i don't die instantly, but also not too limited by poise breakpoints since all the more dangerous stuff is 100+ poise anyway lol
Is somone knoe if roll range is diffrend in ER to DS3? As from some time i feel like range of roll is further (normal roll) then in DS3, or is just that all attacks true combo in to second R1 gives more possibilites to roll cach
light roll is closer to ds3 roll distance, med roll is a decent bit shorter than that
Wait, I got a light roll video on my feed
Light roll is balanced because you don't have any poise and no absorption.
Classic.
*Dissapears for 10 years*
Fashion is passion check it i gat the nomadic merchant chapeau, nomadic merchant finery, malenis's gauntlet, bull goat greaves.
I'm dripped out fam
I slightly prefer fasion to stats, but I'm not willing to have shit stats for good fashion, for example if fashion involves mainly light armor i try to push it to light roll to compensate the lack of deffence
I just want my character's outfit to match the theme of the weapons and abilities they're using. an agile curved sword user shouldn't be in full plate armor, and a guy with a giant axe should be wearing something barbarian-like.
It would be easier to make that first example work if I weren't intentionally not allowing myself to light roll because it's broken currently. second is easy though.
The game was designed to some extent to give you motivation to match your armor with your playstyle. you can min max beyond what was intended, but the basic logic still exists if you look for it.
I swear I get poise broke no matter what I do on pc so I just gave up and do fashion
8:00 takezo/mushashi miyamoto
Fashion > Poise because if you don't have drip when you win then you didn't win at all
Real talk though, the heavy armor in this game either looks like ass (aside from the Scaled Set, Banished Knight Set, and Tree Sentinel Set) or doesn't look good when trying to mix and match with other sets (like the Tree Sentinel Set, which looks good by itself, but matches with literally nothing else)
And because of how demanding the poise breakpoints are in this game it incentivizes using armor pieces that don't match and look terrible together
I'd rather use slightly less optimal armor that actually matches well together and fits the theme for the build I'm running, than running Lionel's Helm + Veteran's Armor + Lionel's Greaves for every build just to achieve a high, optimal poise value
The biggest problem with this game's meta is that the necessary poise breakpoints are so high, that in order to be "meta" you have to run mismatched heavy armor that looks goofy as hell
a transmog system would be awseome imo, just display the value of poise of every player at the side of their name or something to not have the problem of viewing a half naked player who is actually full bullgoat and using that poise in a dishonest way.
I think my fashion sense in these games is just a Stockholm syndrome response. I've gotten to the point where I like prelates, always loved the stupid havel gauntlets with chains on them, seen enough of the shag carpet plus bib double cape combo on veteran's that I think its enduring now
For me it's always 50/50 between fashion and function.
Why do we need 123 poise as you said at 5:20 of video🙏
It's for specific ashes of war like storm caller which does around 120 poise damage on the initial hit. Most attacks do tons more poise damage than 123. So this specific poise only helps during specific situations. Even lesser attacks do more poise damage. Loretta's slash does 125 so being 2 short would get you poise broke on both slices of the attack.
A player with 123 poise would also be able to poise through thrusting swords attacks which might help a lot, but it's not required.
@@spacedoohicky thanks,so in order to avoid Loretta’s two hit combo do we need 126 poise?
@@anuragsinha210 Yeah, but at that point if you stay at level 125 for instance you won't be able to use any large weapons because your armor will be too heavy. Maybe you can have around that poise with bull goat armor. I don't know. But all you'll be using is small to medium armaments.
What is the point of having a cookie and not eating it?
in DSR on pc at least. a lot of people in the townshit use "fashion" builds. its like a 50/50 split of fashion and chain mom, HMGC. at least in DSR if ur strictly better than the opponent you dont need a HMGC or chain mom setup as long as u have 2 decision backstab and at least 1800HP its a good enough build. i have mostly "fashion" builds. which in my mind just means unoptimized armor.
I think it boils down to how competitive you are. I personally don’t care at all what my poise and resistances are when I’m invading, I just want to look good while doing it. If I get absolutely destroyed by someone who’s more optimized I simply don’t care.
I just try have fun moments and stuff, couldn’t care less if I die every single game.
Duels are very competitive and it makes less sense to go fashion > stats for them.
What comes to mind for me when I think about tryharding is all the ugly buffs people have and not the fashion. Imagine you're playing a trading card game and for the first turn of every game everyone always plays the same cards. This would be boring. You would say "remove this turn from the game." It's just a labor and in elden ring it's extra apparent because there are extra consumable items to flesh out the open world map with pickups. It exists as a consequence of PvE and not to improve PvP really. I perfer items I can hold in my hands.
For me, a scrub, it's all about finding that perfect balance between form and function. Doesn't have to be optimal in either direction, simply it's 'how cool can I look whilst not sacrificing anything too important in terms of stats' and it's a form of min maxing in its own right
I usually go for fashion and I hate it when gear stats matter as much as they do in ER. Bloodborne and DS3 did it better imo
unless you're actively trying to compete with tryhards (that are actually good at the game) the need to optimize your armor is more lax than you might think. Generally it's sufficient to have a reasonable breakpoint that allows you to not get bullied by fast weps. I was rocking like 40-50 poise range which doesnt give you much for a while and I still won the vast majority of fights I took place in
It's Fromsoft fault, we need more armor even with identical stat to make us look fashionably different than each other but still hit poise and absorption we need, i want my 117 Poise to look like my 71 Poise set honestly
Im rocking the greathelm with crusader fashion, screw poise minmaxing. Invasions are pure shittery anyway, I’d rather look good when getting chased by liurnia gankers
Always fashion, never infashion. try to get the minimum but always fashion, just got poise for endure daggers and nothing else, just try to no contest on poise.
What if every armor piece could be made vable in its own unique way
Lapp armor 2.0 here we go
Man, steel I like you, really. But I don't understand how you don't understand that people put a good amount of value in the roleplay aspect of their builds in a RPG. You know that which the R in RPG stands for. I'm what most would consider a "sweaty tryhard" as well, but one aspect which "holds me back" from peaking I guess, is that I don't use the typical high poise armor you see.
What you said about finding a middle ground is of course true as well. I don't run around naked just because I like booba. I find something that looks nice and has decent stats. Right now it's Malenia's helmet + cleanrot set. Only has like 55 poise without talisman, but so far with about 1500 hours into the game I haven't had a single duel/invasion where I could say that my armour is definititely the reason I lost. I also have armor swaps for the royal remains set and a light roll set up (to counter other light rollers).
Bro, all he said was that optimizing and maximizing stats is something else people want to do in RPGs. A lot of people like finding the best setups and best weapons while at meta level.
Do you think he could win this many invasions and duels if he wasn't using high poise for example? Enjoy the content for what it is and stop complaining like other zoomers or casuals that people like meta setups. What if someone wants to roleplay as a meta warrior, or a strength/dex build that's good with every weapon?
@@Blittsplitt5 I don't understand why you're being so aggressive? All I did was to point out that people can have other priorities and that it's not a do or do not type of thing but more gradual (where one side is 100% stats and the other 100% fashion)
Have you even read my comment? I'm a "meta slave" as well (aside from """"fashion""""). Steel and Jeenine are where I take most my inspirations from, because they are both easily the best players in the game.
I'm also subbed to both of them on twitch for years. So wtf do you want going around calling people zoomers lmfao.
@@Hop3.that guy was so aggressive im literally shitting and pissing right now 🫨
The game is too inconsistent and buggy on the pvp side for me to care about competitiveness. Light roll, variable roll catch timings, variable ghost hit range, variable parry timing, and undodgable sleep/poison/rot attacks make the core mechanics not fun to fixate on for me. Add on the fact that truly optimal play often requires a shit ton of farming or more realistically item duping. Like great golem arrows are one of the most powerful tools in the game and players don't have legit access to them. I have respect for the highly skilled individuals like steel, chase, and g9, and I enjoy the game but winning takes a back seat to everything else because of its issues.
altered royal knight chest looks way too good for me to not use it even though the royal knight stuff has dogshit poise to weight ratio lol
I dont have to win every single time. I'd rather have style. Id rather have fun and play off meta stuff. If I lose because of that, it's not that serious.
I just started using a light roll PS straight sword build and let me tell you... it is pure cancer lmao i can literally roll backwards 4 times and create an arenas space of distance, back pedal and turn and burn with the carian health deleters to take out 1700 hp, its probably so disgusting to go against lol. Now before anyone gets too mad, keep in mind I only use my powers against the shittiest of shitter 😂
The thing I think is funny is when the try hard in arena can’t make any ground with the KGS they started with so they swap to dual pikes & then proceed to lose anyway. Chefs kiss, I live for that shit. GGs
I think most of the times I mix fashion with stats I use lyndel knight helmet and the rest tree sentinel I get over 100 poise and I look great but to me seeing bull goat armor in PvP is just lame I like seeing people look good and fight as good as they look but that might be a personal preference when I see the albinaric helmet I know it’s a free W they don’t take the time to make fashion blend with their stats they don’t really care about the game again that’s just me
i simply cannot enjoy if the things im wearing are not pleasing to look at. the same goes with weapons lmao. hell sometimes i play with no armor (not in multiplayer) simply because i like the sound effects of the foot steps but other times i will wear the lionel chest piece while using a hand axe because i think it looks funny. it depends on the mood. i played alot more pvp in ds 3. and in ER a bit less and ive never been good but i just accept that i will probably be smoked by someone min maxing. if i get the odd pvp kill here and there then good for me. if i am invading then maybe i will try a bit harder with the armor selection. i see it as like playing a street fighter game but then the most efficient characters are models with no textures and just a bunch of primitives that resemble a human. no one wants to look at that. they want to pick a character that looks cool to them. at the end of the day if u are hardcore into pvp then youll most likely prioritize stats while others will try to get away with neglecting stats because they find other aspects more fun.
Wear fashion if you want to wear fashion. Tryhard if you want to tryhard. Miyazaki comes for you all the same.
some high tier players who take pvp more seriously probably don't like facing fashion users because it cheapens their victory if they win and probably feels embarrassing if they get killed by some goofy character who don't really care as much
I just want something that looks good AND has good stats. is that so much to ask fromsoftware 😭
Steel not grasping that people use off meta shit because its fun (damn imagine playing a game for lols because its not a job where your audience will leave if you dont win every match).
Imo lionel hat doesnt match with the vet set and imo is an eyesore. People can use whatever but i reserve the right to subjectively find the fit boring af - not to mention overused by the army of steelcones that spam chainsaw in the arena - kinda gives it a bad rep because every time i see it theres a good chance theyre gonna try to run and chainsaw once they start loosing.
If you're good you dont need to crutch minmaxed armour or lightroll to shit on people (just 1shot them with flamestrike ez lmao). Go be that soldier of godrick or the deus vult crusader of your dreams - its a roll-playing game for fucks sake. Use some imagination outside of "minmaxed statblock", or dont. You paid the 70 have fuckin fun
Still funny to see youtubers mald over lightroll tho.
Smh if youre not fat rolling and bare-fisted with no spells youre using a crutch. Actually no wait rolling and sprinting are crutches too - real gamers just slow walk punch their foes to death with their bare hands and bare feet out like Michelle Zachariah intended.
He just said that people can't grasp that fashion ≠ looking like a female anime protagonist and that sometimes fashion = heavy armour
@@leonardo9259 and I just said that imo Lionel helm doesn't look good with veterans. There's no colour coordination on it, and the materials are totally different.
Trust me, there are plenty of helms that go with the veteran chest that make you look like a fuckin unit but Lionels ain't one. Gives off "the fit is shit but I'm wearing it for the stats" mmo leveling clownsuit" vibes
The "I'm wearing shit from 3 different raids because I can't afford transmog" looking fit bro. Doesn't help its the sweatlord uniform too, so it has a bad rep to match the bad coordination. Like he could at least wear the Prelate chest because the black metal is at least closer to Lionels helm and actually looks funny
Like, look at lost or rust bucket.
Rust uses the beast champion chest with the duelist helm and it makes his character look like a gigachad Roman gladiator in filigreed plate.
Lost uses the Peasant hat with the vulgar chest and the scaled greaves which match cloth and give a scrappy, disheveled look - perfect for a maniacal murderer like him
Fashion > all. If everyone felt like they all had to run the best setups, and even in invasions I just had to see the same five setups and nothing else, I wouldn't play these games. I want to create a cool character, and I want to see people's cool characters.
I'm not above switching to something more powerful as the situation calls for, but I also want to feel like I'm playing a character, and not a weapon. I get if you want to be really competitive, it's not a good idea, but I don't agree with the hardcore take that you shouldn't care about fashion over effectiveness. It's a roleplaying game. Let me be a scrubby and enjoy the roleplay.
Dont stress it man people legitly ask for help all day on fb and reddit etc. Yet if they put armour on or used a weapon they wouldn't need the help. Buuuut you know fashion souls......
Yo Spectuals beat Shagz too wonder if he’s going to post it
Make the best lightroll menu switch setup to counter light rollers steel, i'd like a good menu switch like that
Everything in ER is ugly AF. I just use whatever I need for the best version of the build I’m using.
He can wear what he wants and people will watch him obliterate fashion wearers regardless, and if someone complains about the shield or the armor, they're missing the point of watching this guy and can fuck off anyway.
Still, this guy is kind of sad imo. He already knows that he's part of a group of people who are so focused on winning that anything that doesn't give him an edge or a way of equalizing will make him feel like he's playing wrong, yet he's chuckling over other people not doing it as well as if it's the right thing to do. What's even sadder is he's acting like other people wearing what they like is weird despite being the one invading of all things, which has the sole purpose of winning in pvp, while coop is not focused on pvp. What makes this saddest of all is it's so obviously an excuse to wear shitty armor and have a huge annoying shield in everyone's face, but the people who watch his stream just want to see him play well so there's not point to the excuse making at all.
"Fashion" and "cosplay" are not the same though? Fashion means choosing things that look cool to you, and its preciously tied to the fashion ring to really stand out like a fashion hoe. Generally speaking, no one playing meta looks "cool". Even if the gear was cool beforehand, it becomes ass once its meta, duh. Also, a lot of off-meta reds think they look cool by default by virtue of being off-meta, but I tell ya they just look like red blobs when they don't sport the best ring in the game. Also, casuals can "taint" gear sets the same way meta reds do, just look at Radahn's (lol)
And "cosplay" is full on committing to a strict weapon set, or even just a single weapon. Never mind armor fashion. When a dude decides he has no ranged options because that's not part of the build, that's actually kind of impressive. I dislike cosplay in general because I dislike moveset monotony in these games after the first playthrough.
Do what you wanna do dudes.
Fashion > meta. Souls balance blows so always looking for the optimal setup makes the game boring (true for any game, but for souls especially so). Meta loadouts are also ugly, and throwing on a piece of havels+rings for poise usually doesn't break the aesthetic.
Imo someone prioritizing fashion over function in DS and Elden Ring is simply because the player (as well as the game) is contextually informed of the societal codes//rules that constitute beauty and ascribe it value (or being fashionable). For them, looking good has more fundamental worth than an extra 20 poise or w/e. Also, at the risk of sounding like a SJW, I think people naturally tend to the lighter (and thinner) armors over the better (fatter) armors bc, generally speaking, society does not ascribe beauty to big bulky bulbous things!
It's not even really that. It's that Elden Ring heavy armor sucks in appearance. That's opinion based, but it's a lot of people's opinions. There is some heavy armor that looks cool, but it is also nearly as heavy as the ugly high poise armor without the poise of ugly high poise armor. Someone at Fromsoft wanted poise stackers to look like morons.
It’s just people using things because they like the way it looks, it ain’t that deep.
No one copes more than a meta kid saying his build has good fashion lol
You act like you don't play this game all day every day. How many Radahns and Maliketh's do you meet per hour? Ofcourse most people prioritize fashion, unless the percieved advantages are too high. And from PvErs perspective, they are not.
lol so light roll being a feature the developers intended to have and balanced around bad but crouch sprint tech the devs didn’t intended and chaining players to death in a vortex unless you make a mistake is okay. I don’t think I’ll ever understand this “argument” and the echo chamber people have created.
“Spacing goes out the window” no, you’re just playing game with 3 different types of roll animation and basing your entire play style off of ONE of them and say that everyone else has to do the same. But since the handful of people with a following say it, it must be true.
Okay, okay, let's trust him. Let's trust the random roll catch complainer in the comments rather than the people who play this game professionally for thousands of hours.
@@clairmond3 you don’t know me and you have no intelligent response to what I said. You’re essentially just a troll waiting for your favorite content creator to say something for you to mindlessly echo. So here’s your reply for your dopamine hit lol maybe you can use the rush to form some kind of logical original thought
Lightrollers trying not to cope about their lack of skill.Challenge:impossible
@@Superluminal_30000 source: your favorite streamer Must be tough not being able to have coherent thought until a stranger on the internet gives it to you 😪
@@_22445 I don't even watch his streams
No they are not. Try hards reduce the fun for everyone. Its like people on social welfare. They force the regular people to suffer for their own benefit instead of engaging in a mutually enjoyable experience. Sure there's subjectivity but just one vote asking if try hards makw the game worse will clear that for ya
Least schizo light rollers
You should try prioritizing speaking English so I can understand whatever the hell it is you're saying. Seriously what is it with people that can't talk insisting on having youtube channels?
If this guy has 26k subs that can understand him, maybe the problem isn't on him.
@@RobertBlue12 oh look someone on the internet who thinks they're clever this is shocking I'm so shocked right now that was so clever wow amazing did you think of that all on your own what a retort i will never recover. This guy is complete aids lol.
@@kasch3288 Dude, i just pointed what can be the actual problem here. How this can be translated to me thinking i am smart 😭
Also, what is making you this annoyed? This is weird even for youtube comments standars