If You Live In Or Plan To Live In Cochise County Arizona You Need To Watch This
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2023
- In this episode we will talk about if you live in or plan to live in Cochise County Arizona you need to watch this to learn about what Cochise County officials are proposing and how it can impact your building plans.
Hi - We are Douglas and Keri! In May of 2022 we quit our jobs and sold our home in Denver, Colorado to move to our 36 acre off grid homestead property in Cochise County, Arizona. Follow along with us as we build our homestead from scratch!
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It’s great that your sharing all your contacts and resources with all your viewers, a great idea to support small local business. Tina
Thank you! We've been meaning to start something like that for a while and hope it's helpful :)
I’m so happy to have found this channel; thank you both. I’m going to find/purchase land in Apache County in Sept. Many times counties will follow each other. I just left a hundred year flood plain. Doing your homework is crucial.
Hey there and welcome! We are so glad to have you and will look forward to hearing about where you land! Yep, research is so very important!
as a homesteader here in cochise i see why the county wants to do this. its a good thing honestly. ALL my neighbors who have built homes have done homes on a slab at grade and had sheet flooding issues w their homes. ive built up a 3' berm and started building my house. plus w the opt out permits i have talked to people who have had issues getting home insurance after their home is finished. one neighbor bermed there property and now the diverted water has washed out the main dirt rd that services like 6 homes here and yet no one but me seems to work on the rd when its all on them for it being garbage. plus ive seen several videos of yters who started building their homes in or near a wash and started having serious issues w water.
Those are really good points that we hadn't considered! We figured people would know to build in a way that would mitigate water, but we didn't realize that many people had built that way. We have seen homes in washes too which is pretty sad that someone didn't tell them what a bad idea that was! We also know that washes can move and redirect, so building near one is just a terrible idea. Doug grew up in NY and I grew up in WA where water is always considered when building. Even in a dry climate like this, a slab at grade is even a bad idea...would always build a french drain around the slab or a berm like what you're doing. Thanks for the perspective and have a great day!
That's why they make you get a separate permit for flood and make you get an engineer to plan it if anyone is building in flood you can get a big fine redirecting water is why they want that to be engineered.i know of a woman who had a block wall put all the way around her property cost a lot of money did it wit no permit so they didn't build it with any drainage so she got fined and had to remove the wall 5 ft tall all the way around 4 acres
Where I live in the County it has never flooded and the dry rivers only run if there are big storms in New Mexico. A guy just built a house for his wife thats not elevated and the county was fine with it. In fact he got in more trouble with how he hooked it into the water lines here, and he did it how they told him to.
Congratulations to your husband on finding a new job!
Thank you!!
Thank you for posting this information. I didn't comment after Doug's last video but you need to set up your solar system even tho what you do now is not what your final plan is. If necessary lay the panels on the ground. With your hill you can get a slope.. Running a generator is. using up your precious resources.. You have so many animals to feed that are not producing any income yet. I hope you have the chicken coop roofed in with rain water catchment in place. What ever water you can catch will save you money. When you set the solar panels fix them to catch rain also. I hope you have been able to get the stuff out of the tents so it is now protected. Mama and the kittens are so cute. I hope the rodent problem is getting well under control. I know no one wants to do temporary stuff you know you will have to do over but saving money is as good as earning it. When you do the permanent placement you will have learned a lot of things to make the redo easier. I worry about you guys and wish you the best.
I agree about setting up the solar. Its already paid for. Just a little bit of work and itll be free electricity for the Two Rebels!
Hi Wanda! It's nice to hear from you :) Clay shared your "unfortunate event" from the other day and we are so glad you both are okay...I probably would panic in that situation! I am wholeheartedly agreeing with you on the solar, but Doug is just not ready to do that yet...So, we have a compromise where I run the generator during the hottest parts of the day and it's made a HUGE difference for us! I like the idea of using the panels to collect rainwater too! We plan to mount them on the roof of the house eventually to have an extra layer for water collection. We will be starting the roof on the coop this week...the frame and base layer is on, so that will be exciting...we are actually planning on moving our stuff from the storage tent into the coop because it will be a much more secure and element-proof structure. We will plan on re-purposing that tent for a greenhouse at some point. Yes, mama kitty has been training those babies to hunt and every night they go out a bit further and that's make a huge difference with the rodent problem. Awe, thank you for worrying...we really appreciate it...you've given us great advice knowing the area like you do and it's been so helpful! The only parent Doug and I have left is my mom and she worries a lot too :)
We definitely don't have any lack of sunshine for solar! I agree...just have to convince my other half ;-)
Stay cool and stay sane. Do what you have to do. You are real people!
Thank you so much :)
Hope you can find part-time work. I couldnt find any. They hire me part-time but want ne to work full time. And its a big problem when I refuse the extra hours.
Let us know how it goes for you two.
Thank you! Yes, Doug found part-time, but he is running into the same thing you did, unfortunately.
I live in Cochise County and probably in a town you've not even heard of. A guy here just built a house for his wife and just finished it up like a month or two ago and it is not elevated. Were I live the county rarely ever comes out here and every time they try and enforce something they are run off.
I’m just guessing but I bet that bill never passed as planned
Thank you for sharing this information. I sent an email to the board of supervisors as suggested, though I wrote my own instead of using the form letter. I have concerns that this may make earth-integrated structures difficult or impossible to construct, and it also doesn't make any sense for buildings built on the side of a hill. It's pretty silly that they want to apply this everywhere in the county regardless of the flood hazard.
Hey James! We are glad to hear you found it helpful and yes, I would encourage anyone with an interest to read the proposed changes and contact the Supervisors accordingly. We have the same concerns. What I read is that basically anyone applying for a permit in the county could be subject to the discretion of the Flood Control Board requiring the applicant to obtain an engineering study to "prove" that their site is not at risk of flooding. I feel like this really opens up all property owners to being regulated out of even being able to build, especially something like an earth structure or other alternate form of construction. Funny thing is that most earth structures will likely be around for hundreds of years longer than traditional stick-built homes if they are constructed correctly. Anyhow, glad you made your voice heard!
Yes, the 'county' wants more petty controls, I'd ignore half of it, if ur far from town. Don't be scared just say no. The mega farmers are here using up ground water, and polluting with gmo crops, and they want to regulate our building.
If it's your home ur not planning to market in the future, just do it, good luck!
Excellent video lot to learns . Both of you are hard working
So nice of you, thank you! We hope you are well and staying cool :)
Well that's not good news! Even if we are planning a move to AR...it won't make it easy to sell our land with conditions like such! We better list and sell asap then! 🤦🏻♀️ I will go check out the info on your website! Thanks so much for sharing! ❤
You are very welcome! That's a really good point...I hadn't thought about how it could impact property values, but you have to know that people that are thinking about moving here might change their mind if that thing passes!
Great idea getting jobs during the extremely hot days. Hang in there. Only a few months left of heat and humidity.
Thank you! We definitely will and we keep reminding ourselves that this is just like the cold/snow we dealt with in Colorado or the rain/cold in Seattle...it's just the opposite ;-) lol
Higher insurance rate scam. I have been waiting to buy in Cochise County, think
I might have to look at other states.
Yep, we figured it had something to do with money :( Shoot them an email and tell them how it would make you not want to live here! We love it here and hope it doesn't pass and you'll get a chance to come here too :)
Hello Keri, Congratulations to Doug. wishing you good luck in your job search. this was not boring. Your a very good speaker and very articulate. 💕NonnaGrace 🐓
Awe, thank you so much!! Hope you are doing great :)
Thanks for the info! Our property is on the shoulder of the Dragoons and has a decent enough slope so I’m not concerned about flooding at all. The folks in the permit office also told me that where my property is I didn’t need to get the flood plain permit either.
So it sounds like the system in place is adequate and whoever is considering revamping it is either very uneducated or getting paid off by someone who will then prosper in the future.
Make some noise about it people!!!
We are glad to hear that! Yep, we agree with what you believe the motives are 100%!! We are hoping people will quickly spread this to others in the area and make their voices heard!!
That proposal is an attack on homesteaders
Agreed 👍
Thank you for informing us of that!
You’re very welcome!
Thanks for the info on upcoming changes
No problem 👍
Watching from Sedona.
Hello in Sedona, glad to have you! We were in Sedona last year and had our rv down by the river...it is BEAUTIFUL there!! We also did several gorgeous hikes in the area...you are fortunate to live in such a gorgeous area!
I'm looking at bunch of lots online.... hoping to get out there and visit the county myself soon. Just found you guys, thanks for the video.
Our pleasure! Good hunting!
Ifvyou already have permit them should not be affected
Yes, thank goodness and that’s a very good point!
A lot of those "issues" wouldn't be if all you urban types wen't moving here and bringing your urban schiff with you.
I wouldn’t be so surprised that people are fleeing the cities it’s a precursor for the mass reverse migration for when we will all be forced into the cities to live and that includes everyone who has lived there entire lives out in the country.. I wish you the best for when that comes
Again, another uninformed comment from you, “Frank”. Doug and I have lived rural for most our lives. Why are you bothering commenting here?
Can't see that proposed change being implemented.
Really, really hope you’re right!
It's also a right to work state
Hello. Thanks for your video. My friend bought some Land in cochise county. We are a family, what would you recommend us in case we move there? Her plan is to have a house there...
Keep watching all our older videos and most of your questions could be answered,, we recommend researching the county’s website for all the rules then buy land then look at your land’s resources and if you have sand build a sandbag home or if you have stones build a castle,, the world is your oyster
If your in a flood plain you need a flood permit and need an engineer to show you are or aren't in a flood plain and if you are you need them to plan your build this is not new so make sure you know it's not in a flood it cost a lot to build in flood
Thanks for sharing I believe the bill is trying to claim that the entire state of Arizona is in the flood plain and it will cost home owners $10,000 a home to have the engineers come out and prove that they are not and if so they are considering that these homes existing or in the making raise their homes up on considerable foundations.. sounds like someone else will be getting very wealthy off of this if it passes
Oh thems the kitties! HEHEHE
Yesssss!!!
Thats dumb about the new changes. Yes you have a wash but you clearly arent building in or near it. The only way a lot of you guys would flood is if noahs ark is needed again... and if thats the case no "building up" is gonna save you anyway 😂
I agree, sounds like a way to falsly raise insurance rates. One of the thinks ive been doing while i look for land is CHECK the fima flood zones to avoid that mess.
And i dont know... but i would think a building on stilts would make more of a hazard for your crazy wind? Maybe not but i can see it turning into Dorothy's house is wizard of oz, 😂😂
On another note:
Omg Clara's babies are getting so big!! I see, feom the dirt on one of their noses, they are learning to hunt! ❤
My strey foster momma is still pregnant... im so impatient! Lol
Thank you for posting the update on the potential changes... i was so scared you were gonna say they were droping the owner builder opt out.
Lol, you got that right!! You're smart to check for FEMA flood zones...not good to build in those, although I know people do...probably get a great price on the property that way! Ha ha, that's funny about the wind and things up on stilts, but you're Right!!!
Yes, Clara has been working every day with the babies and they further "out" of the fenced in area every night! Awe, I hope your mama kitty has them soon! It's so fun to watch them from being little bits!
They would be insane to drop the owner builder opt out...it's what is bringing so much needed growth to this County IMO!
When it is time, a watch helps. Water flows downhill. There is no cold, only lack of heat. THE EARTH IS A GLOBE!
Truth! I have to say, we have a bit TOO much of that stuff called heat at the moment LOL!
A lot of people in Cochise Co live on hills that are not about to be flooded - ever. What on earth are the supervisors thinking?? I guess easy answer is they aren't.
I know, it's absolutely crazy! I feel like even people that live on-grid should know about this because it means every building, even outbuildings, will need to be elevated which is pretty ridiculous! I am hoping people flood the Supervisor's email boxes!!
Many of our county 'officials' are straight up in the NWO wef dark agendas, in thier personal lives, and what 'God' they honor, if u get my drift...lots of $$ corruption, and organized trafficing ops they know well about..mining interests also have long term plans they never tell us locally.
Let us not be intimidated!❤
This website is no longer working. 😐
So sorry, our reality at the moment is money struggles and one of our choices we had to make was to cut expenses where we could, it’s not cheap to keep up the website. We will have it up and running when our situation changes. Thank you for your patience and understanding